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Sikeliot
05-28-2018, 04:17 PM
Based on all of their family surnames they all come from the north of Caltanissetta or the east of Palermo, which is this area in the center of Sicily. The result is similar to others from there.

In a lot of the results in this area they can no longer be modeled as Iberian/Levantine, because they have higher Caucasus input, so their other half comes out North Italian.

MDLP K23:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.91
2 European_Early_Farmers 22.64
3 Near_East 13.05
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.09
5 North_African 5.74
6 South_Central_Asian 4.83
7 East_African 1.79
8 South_Indian 1.32
9 Ancestral_Altaic 1.20


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 3.622053
2 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 3.781170
3 Sicilian_East_ @ 4.139635
4 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.951181
5 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.213071
6 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.812473
7 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.921476
8 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.927145
9 French_Jew_ @ 6.050819
10 Maltese_ @ 6.105864
11 Cretan_ @ 6.187548
12 Sicilian_Center_ @ 6.657360
13 Turk_Jew_ @ 7.386087
14 Italian_South_ @ 7.546499
15 Italian_Jew_ @ 7.628729
16 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 7.944735
17 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 7.976556
18 Greek_Athens_ @ 8.755527
19 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 9.043831
20 Greek_ @ 9.197923

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Peloponnesos_ +50% Sephardic_Jew_ @ 2.815723


Eurogenes K13:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.25
2 West_Med 21.35
3 North_Atlantic 16.99
4 West_Asian 13.74
5 Red_Sea 7.36
6 Baltic 7.06
7 Northeast_African 1.41
8 East_Asian 0.73
9 Amerindian 0.49
10 South_Asian 0.46
11 Sub-Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 2.35
2 South_Italian 3.47
3 Central_Greek 4.39
4 West_Sicilian 5.42
5 Italian_Abruzzo 6.19
6 Ashkenazi 6.53
7 Sephardic_Jewish 7.83
8 Italian_Jewish 8.52
9 Algerian_Jewish 8.62
10 Greek_Thessaly 10.25
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.82
12 Tuscan 11.93
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.32
14 Cyprian 15.28
15 Lebanese_Muslim 18.24
16 North_Italian 18.31
17 Bulgarian 18.94
18 Syrian 18.96
19 Turkish 19.99
20 Romanian 20.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.4% East_Sicilian + 17.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.69
2 64.2% Cyprian + 35.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.92
3 89.7% East_Sicilian + 10.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.93
4 86.2% East_Sicilian + 13.8% Italian_Jewish @ 1.93
5 90.2% East_Sicilian + 9.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.94
6 70.8% East_Sicilian + 29.2% South_Italian @ 2.04
7 79% West_Sicilian + 21% Syrian @ 2.05
8 88.8% East_Sicilian + 11.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.1
9 97.1% East_Sicilian + 2.9% Saudi @ 2.11
10 97.4% East_Sicilian + 2.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.15
11 78.5% West_Sicilian + 21.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.15
12 63.2% Cyprian + 36.8% Portuguese @ 2.16
13 96% East_Sicilian + 4% Palestinian @ 2.16
14 96.5% East_Sicilian + 3.5% Bedouin @ 2.18
15 53.9% North_Italian + 46.1% Samaritan @ 2.19
16 96.2% East_Sicilian + 3.8% Samaritan @ 2.2
17 97% East_Sicilian + 3% Egyptian @ 2.21
18 96.9% East_Sicilian + 3.1% Moroccan @ 2.22
19 96.6% East_Sicilian + 3.4% Jordanian @ 2.22
20 96.8% East_Sicilian + 3.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.22


Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.1
2 West_Med 18.16
3 West_Asian 14.99
4 North_Sea 12.32
5 Atlantic 10.87
6 Red_Sea 7.79
7 Baltic 5.89
8 Northeast_African 1.64
9 Southeast_Asian 0.45
10 South_Asian 0.41
11 Amerindian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 3.91
2 Central_Greek 5.24
3 South_Italian 5.58
4 Ashkenazi 6.12
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.23
6 Italian_Jewish 8.17
7 West_Sicilian 8.65
8 Greek_Thessaly 9.26
9 Sephardic_Jewish 9.77
10 Algerian_Jewish 10.48
11 Greek 11.18
12 Tuscan 11.44
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.24
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.28
15 Cyprian 15.42
16 Bulgarian 17.41
17 North_Italian 17.74
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.08
19 Syrian 18.32
20 Turkish 19.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.1% East_Sicilian + 8.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.7
2 97.9% East_Sicilian + 2.1% Saudi @ 3.83
3 97% East_Sicilian + 3% Samaritan @ 3.85
4 97.4% East_Sicilian + 2.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.86
5 96.8% East_Sicilian + 3.2% Syrian @ 3.86
6 97.6% East_Sicilian + 2.4% Bedouin @ 3.86
7 97.8% East_Sicilian + 2.2% Armenian @ 3.87
8 98.5% East_Sicilian + 1.5% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.87
9 97.9% East_Sicilian + 2.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.87
10 98.1% East_Sicilian + 1.9% Assyrian @ 3.88
11 97.9% East_Sicilian + 2.1% Jordanian @ 3.88
12 94.3% East_Sicilian + 5.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.88
13 98.2% East_Sicilian + 1.8% Palestinian @ 3.88
14 98.5% East_Sicilian + 1.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.89
15 98.6% East_Sicilian + 1.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.89
16 98.2% East_Sicilian + 1.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.89
17 98.9% East_Sicilian + 1.1% Egyptian @ 3.89
18 98.8% East_Sicilian + 1.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.89
19 99.3% East_Sicilian + 0.7% Georgian @ 3.9
20 99.7% East_Sicilian + 0.3% Dai @ 3.9


Eurogenes K36:
Arabian 5.52
Armenian 6.45
Basque 0.72
Central_Euro 3.43
East_Balkan 2.77
East_Central_Euro 1.93
East_Med 18.10
French 6.76
Iberian 9.32
Italian 15.20
Malayan 0.25
Near_Eastern 11.09
North_African 2.97
North_Atlantic 2.00
North_Caucasian 3.75
North_Sea 0.14
West_Caucasian 3.36
West_Med 6.24


Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.73
2 Atlantic_Med 26.06
3 Southwest_Asian 14.23
4 North_European 12.62
5 Gedrosia 7.1
6 Northwest_African 4.54
7 East_African 1.06
8 South_Asian 0.43
9 Southeast_Asian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.29
2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.59
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 6.26
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 6.51
5 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 7.64
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.54
7 Greek (Dodecad) 10.21
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.11
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.81
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.11
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.08
12 Cypriots (Behar) 17.1
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.09
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.52
15 Turks (Behar) 21.35
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.82
17 Syrians (Behar) 22
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 22.61
19 Jordanians (Behar) 23.02
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 12.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.88
2 84.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.2% German (Dodecad) @ 1.92
3 83.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.98
4 64% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 36% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.14
5 87.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 12.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.15
6 67.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.2% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.16
7 54.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 45.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.19
8 87.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 12.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.42
9 54.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 45.8% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.42
10 85.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 14.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.5
11 52.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 47.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.51
12 90.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.52
13 85.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 14.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.56
14 90.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.7% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.57
15 88.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 11.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.58
16 88.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 11.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.58
17 90.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.64
18 88.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 11.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.68
19 89.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 10.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.68
20 88.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.69


HarappaWorld:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.36
2 Mediterranean 23.89
3 NE-Euro 16.34
4 SW-Asian 15.38
5 Baloch 6.97
6 E-African 0.88
7 S-Indian 0.63
8 SE-Asian 0.58
9 Pygmy 0.44
10 W-African 0.28
11 American 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 1.41
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 3.68
3 sephardic-jew (behar) 7.5
4 morocco-jew (behar) 9.37
5 tuscan (1000genomes) 13.44
6 tuscan (hgdp) 14.11
7 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.62
8 tuscan (hapmap) 14.79
9 cypriot (behar) 16.93
10 lebanese (behar) 19.17
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.71
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 19.72
13 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 20.6
14 turk (behar) 21.2
15 syrian (behar) 21.56
16 romanian-a (behar) 21.79
17 lebanese-muslim (haber) 21.81
18 turkish (harappa) 21.89
19 palestinian (harappa) 22.05
20 italian (hgdp) 22.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.9% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.3
2 99.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.7% finnish (1000genomes) @ 1.31
3 99% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 1% belorussian (behar) @ 1.31
4 98.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 1.1% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.32
5 99.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.9% russian (behar) @ 1.32
6 98.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 1.2% slovenian (xing) @ 1.33
7 98.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 1.2% hungarian (behar) @ 1.34
8 99.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 1.34
9 99.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.9% n-european (xing) @ 1.35
10 89.4% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 10.6% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.35
11 99.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.9% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 1.35
12 98.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 1.8% romanian-a (behar) @ 1.35
13 99.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.8% orcadian (hgdp) @ 1.35
14 98.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 1.8% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 1.35
15 99.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.8% qatari (henn2012) @ 1.35
16 99.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 1.35
17 99.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.8% british (1000genomes) @ 1.36
18 99.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.7% bedouin (hgdp) @ 1.37
19 99.7% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.3% mbutipygmy (hgdp) @ 1.37
20 99.7% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 0.3% pygmy (xing) @ 1.37


PuntDNA-L k13:
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 37.45
2 West_Asia 23.44
3 SW_Asia 18.22
4 NE_Europe 15.87
5 East_Africa 1.56
6 South_Asia 0.93
7 NE_Asia 0.76
8 Americas 0.71
9 South_Africa 0.44
10 Oceania 0.31
11 SE_Asia 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Sicilian 3.33
2 Ashkenazy_Jew 3.52
3 Sephardic_Jew 4.15
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.1
5 Greek_Central 7.98
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.47
7 Albanian 12.97
8 Cypriot 13.27
9 Italian_Tuscan 14.25
10 Kosovar 14.29
11 Turkish 14.83
12 Turkish_Kayseri 17.09
13 Syrian 17.41
14 Turkish_Aydin 17.66
15 Lebanese_Christian 17.66
16 Lebanese_Druze 18.25
17 Jordanian 18.63
18 Bulgarian 18.82
19 Macedonian 19.1
20 Lebanese_Muslim 19.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% Syrian + 33.9% French_Basque @ 1.93
2 95.3% Ashkenazy_Jew + 4.7% Tigray @ 2.22
3 95.5% Ashkenazy_Jew + 4.5% Amhara @ 2.25
4 92.1% Ashkenazy_Jew + 7.9% Saharawi @ 2.28
5 64% Lebanese_Muslim + 36% French_Basque @ 2.29
6 90.7% Ashkenazy_Jew + 9.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.32
7 79.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.6% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.33
8 96.2% Ashkenazy_Jew + 3.8% Somali @ 2.33
9 96.1% Ashkenazy_Jew + 3.9% Oromo @ 2.36
10 73.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 26.5% Jordanian @ 2.4
11 76% Italian_Abruzzo + 24% Palestinian @ 2.42
12 65% Lebanese_Druze + 35% French_Basque @ 2.43
13 95.1% Italian_Sicilian + 4.9% Bedouin @ 2.43
14 91.5% Ashkenazy_Jew + 8.5% Moroccan @ 2.46
15 91.1% Ashkenazy_Jew + 8.9% Algerian @ 2.46
16 79.3% Sephardic_Jew + 20.7% Albanian @ 2.47
17 96.3% Ashkenazy_Jew + 3.7% Wolayta @ 2.47
18 89.8% Ashkenazy_Jew + 10.2% Tunisian @ 2.48
19 92.3% Ashkenazy_Jew + 7.7% Mozabite @ 2.48
20 59% Lebanese_Christian + 41% Spaniard @ 2.49

Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 04:35 PM
In a lot of the results in this area they can no longer be modeled as Iberian/Levantine, because they have higher Caucasus input, so their other half comes out North Italian.

They don't have higher Caucasus and North Italians have nothing to do with this.

Sikeliot
05-28-2018, 05:19 PM
They don't have higher Caucasus and North Italians have nothing to do with this.

Why do you have to be so disagreeable to things that are easily observed?

All of the Sicilians I have seen results for from that area come up modeled as North Italian/Levantine, NOT Iberian/Levantine, which is because Iberians have less Caucasian than do north Italians, and this part of Sicily seems to have an elevated amount of Caucasus.

Similarly, there seems to be higher than average Red Sea (nearly 8% on Eurogenes K13/K15 and up to 18% SW Asian on puntdna-L K13) in nearly all Caltanissetta results.

Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 06:05 PM
Why do you have to be so disagreeable to things that are easily observed?

All of the Sicilians I have seen results for from that area come up modeled as North Italian/Levantine, NOT Iberian/Levantine, which is because Iberians have less Caucasian than do north Italians, and this part of Sicily seems to have an elevated amount of Caucasus.

Similarly, there seems to be higher than average Red Sea (nearly 8% on Eurogenes K13/K15 and up to 18% SW Asian on puntdna-L K13) in nearly all Caltanissetta results.

It's not me who is disagreeable, it's you who as usual make wrong observations. I was referring to the Caucasus of Caltanissetta: it's not higher in the other Sicilians. This Messinese has 34.32% Caucasus in Harappa and 16.11% West_Asian in Eurogenes K15.

Sikeliot
05-28-2018, 06:15 PM
It's not me who is disagreeable, it's you who as usual make wrong observations. I was referring to the Caucasus of Caltanissetta: it's not higher in the other Sicilians. This Messinese has 34.32% Caucasus in Harappa and 16.11% West_Asian in Eurogenes K15.

Both Messina, Caltanissetta, and a significant part of Palermo have more Caucasus than would Syracuse/Ragusa/Trapani though.

But the striking thing about Caltanissetta and much of Palermo is the Red Sea is often above 7%. I have not yet seen a fully Caltanissetta result with Red Sea below 7%.

Bobby Martnen
05-28-2018, 09:03 PM
Both Messina, Caltanissetta, and a significant part of Palermo have more Caucasus than would Syracuse/Ragusa/Trapani though.

But the striking thing about Caltanissetta and much of Palermo is the Red Sea is often above 7%. I have not yet seen a fully Caltanissetta result with Red Sea below 7%.

https://i.imgur.com/4iHJXmJ.png