Classify me please

[Hess]

You cant really see it because of the lighting but my eyes are brown and my hair is Dark brown. Also, if it helps, i'm 6'0

[Lenny]

Highly Mediterranean, somewhat dinaricized but not heavily.

It appears that the back of the head is flat, a clear Dinaric trait.

You remind me of Fig. 1 (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate37.htm) from Plate 37 of The Races of Europe, but more gracile (less dinaricized), and a more western appearance generally than that guy.

[Hess]

Highly Mediterranean, somewhat dinaricized but not heavily.

It appears that the back of the head is flat, a clear Dinaric trait.

You remind me of Fig. 1 (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate37.htm) from Plate 37 of The Races of Europe, but more gracile (less dinaricized), and a more western appearance generally than that guy.



Thanks for that. For some reason i was under the impression that i was an alpine. Then again, a month ago i didn't even know what an alpine was haha.

[Hess]

anyone else?

[Sikeliot]

dinaricized gracile med

[kwp_wp]

Med proper IMO, I don't see any Alpinisation nor Dinarisation in your appearance

[Hess]

dinaricized gracile med

wait, i thought Dinaric meds are shorter in height and darker skinned. Now i'm confused.

[Lenny]

For some reason i was under the impression that i was an alpine.Alpines are "round-headed" and shorter, smaller-framed. You are clearly long-headed and at 6'0 (183cm) are not short, so Alpine is a definite 'No'.



Med proper IMO, I don't see any Alpinisation nor Dinarisation in your appearance
kwp_wp, don't you think his jaw is heavier than the typical Med? Possible CM influence?

The face is clear Med predominant. Visible minor influences (if any) can be debated, but Med is the clear "winner".

Atlanto-Med (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ATLANTO-MEDITERRANID) may be the subtype.

Some Atlanto-Med photos (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate23.htm)

[Sikeliot]

wait, i thought Dinaric meds are shorter in height and darker skinned. Now i'm confused.

Not necessarily.

[Hess]

I'm sorry, i'm rather new at this so this may be a stupid question. What exactly is a Cro Magnon? I always thought Cro Magnons were prehistoric men who lived tens of thousands of years ago. Aren't we all descended from Cro Magnons?

[Guapo]

Aren't we all descended from Cro Magnons?

Yes.

[Hess]

Yes.

so then what's the use in pointing out that someone has cro magnon features if in reality everyone has cro magnon features?

[Guapo]

so then what's the use in pointing out that someone has cro magnon features if in reality everyone has cro magnon features?

No shit brah

[Hess]

No shit brah

I don't really see what you're' getting at. lenny said i might I have a Cro Magnon jaw and i was just wondering what exactly that might mean.

[Guapo]

You look like a French Balkan mix.

[Hess]

Thanks to everyone who contributed so far! As someone who is just starting out, it is very useful to get advice from those that have been studying anthropology for longer than me

[Raskolnikov]

Very robust result of Atlanto-Mediterranid with Dinarid admixture.

[Hess]

Very robust result of Atlanto-Mediterranid with Dinarid admixture.

How did you spot the Dinarid Admixture?

[Ugo Tognazzi]

Atlanto Mediterranean/North Atlantid

would be interesting to know your cephalic index

dived maximum head with by maximum lenght and multiply by 100

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index

[Hess]

if i did this right, my cephalic index is 81.8

[Mordid]

if i did this right, my cephalic index is 81.8

You are normal brahycephalic and you are even longer skull than proper Dinarid since they are hyper-brachycephalic (85, I think). You can become mesocephalic If you have good nutrition.

[Hess]

This made me curious.

does anyone have a link to a list of cephalic indexes by European country?

[Curtis24]

Dinarid with West Baltid influence.

[Hess]

hmm, I certainly didn't expect west baltid to pop up. Interesting responses here

[Mordid]

This made me curious.

does anyone have a link to a list of cephalic indexes by European country?

http://web.archive.org/web/20070714131059/http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/calc/rac/indexf.html

http://dienekes.110mb.com/calc/rac/

[Sturmgewehr]

I think he looks Atlanto Mediterranean/Dinarid with some Minor CM

The eye region looks Pontid, typical for the region where you coming from.

[Mordid]

I think he looks Atlanto Mediterranean/Dinarid with some Minor CM

The eye region looks Pontid, typical for the region where you coming from.

Is there really such thing as ''Pontid'' eye ? :confused::coffee:

[Kosovo je Sjrbia]

semitic?

[Hess]

semitic?


Why? I can trace back my ancestors pretty far and I have no Jewish/ middle eastern blood in me...

[Hess]

http://web.archive.org/web/20070714131059/http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/calc/rac/indexf.html

http://dienekes.110mb.com/calc/rac/

Thanks, thats actually very helpful

[Raskolnikov]

How did you spot the Dinarid Admixture?
- shoter-flatter skull (apparently shorter than I thought)
- longer midface compared to a Nordid or Mediterranid
- 'hyperplastic' face: stronger cheekbones impression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dinarisch.JPG)

I guess I agree with Dinarid-Atlantomediterranid now, rather than what I originally said. Don't take me authoritatively, just guessing.


Is there really such thing as ''Pontid'' eye ?
If it means Baltid-Uralid admixture, yes. I think Pontid phenotype is just a regional mixture of Atlanto-Mediterranid people with Baltid that one doesn't find in Greece, Italy, Spain, etc.

[Hess]

thanks for clearing that up, I never knew what a hyperplastic face meant.

I was wondering, which country has a higher percentage of Dinarids, France or Croatia?

[mymy]

thanks for clearing that up, I never knew what a hyperplastic face meant.

I was wondering, which country has a higher percentage of Dinarids, France or Croatia?

Should be Croatia, but I think France have them too in some number, maybe more Norid type in France than classic Dinarids.

[Kosovo je Sjrbia]

Why? I can trace back my ancestors pretty far and I have no Jewish/ middle eastern blood in me...


the lips and the complexion, but you look also dinaric (nose-face shape)and cro-magnid (eyebrow arch and eyes)
It's plain you're mixed.

[Don]

Extrange mix.

[Hess]

the lips and the complexion, but you look also dinaric (nose-face shape)and cro-magnid (eyebrow arch and eyes)
It's plain you're mixed.

Well, I was puckering my lips a little (for some reason i do that when taking pictures), which made them seem meatier. I'll post another pic of me later when i'm on a different computer . As for the complexion, i'm not sure why pale skin with rosy cheeks is a Semitic trait. The lighting in my bathroom is a little weird, but I really just have fair skin with rosy cheeks- not an uncommon trait for any European.

But thanks for the input, I guess. It's just that i was never called Semitic before and I'm not sure how much i can trust your anthropology after you called Rasputin Semitic and this guy an Armenian when he looks absolutely nothing like one http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24249.

Also, "semitic" isn't a subrace. You have to be more specific.

[Hess]

Extrange mix.

I'm sorry, but there is no such word as "Extrange"

[Don]

I'm sorry, but there is no such word as "Extrange"

Extraño + Stranger.

[Hess]

Extraño + Stranger.

Thats still not very specific, now is it? When you classify someone, you have to mention his or her subrace. That's what classification is.

[Mordid]

- shoter-flatter skull (apparently shorter than I thought)
- longer midface compared to a Nordid or Mediterranid
- 'hyperplastic' face: stronger cheekbones impression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dinarisch.JPG)

I guess I agree with Dinarid-Atlantomediterranid now, rather than what I originally said. Don't take me authoritatively, just guessing.


If it means Baltid-Uralid admixture, yes. I think Pontid phenotype is just a regional mixture of Atlanto-Mediterranid people with Baltid that one doesn't find in Greece, Italy, Spain, etc.

Lol, Dinarid doesn't have long face because their forehead is too broad, long big chin, the width of face is rather wide. I'd just say they have long broad face. Nordid have more longer and narrower face than average Dinarid.

[Mordid]

- shoter-flatter skull (apparently shorter than I thought)
- longer midface compared to a Nordid or Mediterranid
- 'hyperplastic' face: stronger cheekbones impression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dinarisch.JPG)

I guess I agree with Dinarid-Atlantomediterranid now, rather than what I originally said. Don't take me authoritatively, just guessing.


If it means Baltid-Uralid admixture, yes. I think Pontid phenotype is just a regional mixture of Atlanto-Mediterranid people with Baltid that one doesn't find in Greece, Italy, Spain, etc.

Pontid aren't Atlanto Mediterraneanid that's mixed with Baltid. The Pontid are a type of their own and not some mix. Greek are mostly East Med, not Pontid.

[Lisa]

Southern and Central European mix :)

[creepy daguerrotype.]

nice eyebrows

[Raskolnikov]

Lol, Dinarid doesn't have long face because their forehead is too broad, long big chin, the width of face is rather wide. I'd just say they have long broad face. Nordid have more longer and narrower face than average Dinarid.
You don't speak English, so I'm not going bother here.

[Hess]

nice eyebrows

Thanks. I try to keep them well groomed

[Mordid]

You don't speak English, so I'm not going bother here.

:rolleyes:

[Hess]

:rolleyes:

what are you two fighting about again?

[Mordid]

what are you two fighting about again?

Dont worry. :)

[Hess]

Ok lol

[Raskolnikov]

:rolleyes:
Lol. I omit words a lot because I can't sit still too long.

[Hess]

So based on all of your responses, I basically think that Dinaric/Atlanto med with minor CM would be the consensus

[Agrippa]

if i did this right, my cephalic index is 81.8

If you have no real experience and otherwise too, tell always the absolute numbers as well, first to determine whether you measured horribly wrong, secondly to asses size and absolute length-breadth, which is important too. Because being brachycephalic with 200 mm is not the same as being brachy with 180...

I think Atlantid/Atlantomediterranid/Atlanto-Pontid, so basically the tall-more robust Mediterranid type is definitely predominant in you. Additionally you might have a slight Dinarid influence, Cromagnoid can only be speculated about, I see no definitive traits.

First, I must say that the profile picture is bad, better than having none at all, but still bad, because the perspective is crap.

Try to photograph you whole head in profile from a larger distance, so that the perspective doesn't distort the view and proportions.

Your Cephalic index and occipital region determines whether Dinaroid is stronger than just an influence - which would make you Atlanto-Dinarid so to say.

Until I have no numbers or better pictures, I can't say more.

[Hess]

removed

[Agrippa]

Atlantomediterranid-Dinarid seems to be pred., but there is a third element, which is hard to pin down. Might be Alpinid or Eastbaltid rather if looking at the latest pictures.

[Hess]

what's East Baltid again? Would Putin be a good example of an east baltid?

[Agrippa]

what's East Baltid again? Would Putin be a good example of an east baltid?

Eastbaltids have a Mongoliform influence, they are more common in Northern Russia and Finland, but appear elsewhere too, as a small minority practically everywhere in Europe East of a certain line, usually related to the expansions of Finno-Ugrians and Balto-Slavs.

[Hess]

Eastbaltids have a Mongoliform influence, they are more common in Northern Russia and Finland, but appear elsewhere too, as a small minority practically everywhere in Europe East of a certain line, usually related to the expansions of Finno-Ugrians and Balto-Slavs.

I suppose I could have gotten the east baltid from my mom's side, that, although Croatian, has lived in Moscow for 2 generations.

[Odoacer]

Since you asked: Dinaro-Pontid. Your height as well as the shape of your skull & nose seem indicative of Dinarid influence. There does seem to be some Mediterranean element, which however is rather more eastern to me, so I say Pontid (= eastern Mediterranid). Your eyes have a pseudo-Mongoliform appearance, so perhaps there is East Baltid influence as well? But don't put too much weight on my opinions. :thumb001:

[alzo zero]

I would have guessed him Dinarid+CM but I'm apparently wrong...

[Hess]

I would have guessed him Dinarid+CM but I'm apparently wrong...

People have said CM before. I would say about 30% of the people who classified me mentioned dinarid

[Rosenrot]

You kinda the same style then Jack, from LOST.

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Jack%20Lost.jpg

[Gunslinger]

Pontid + Turanid

[Hess]

Pontid + Turanid

Interesting, that's the first time someone mentioned turanid.

I think I can see the east Baltid, but Turanid? I'm not sure.

[bluesky]

very funny you earlier called me and my cousin swarthy while you are much more swarthyer then us haha so funny and then you put pictures of only blue eyed and blond haired croats and bulgars when thats only like 10-20 % of what the populations looks like.... what a joke

[Rosenrot]

Another jack who remembs you. Of course he is very tan! But i'm sure he must be white under this sun burned skin.

http://www.americansongwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jackjohnson.jpg

[Hess]

Another jack who remembs you. Of course he is very tan! But i'm sure he must be white under this sun burned skin.

http://www.americansongwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jackjohnson.jpg

hmm, aside from his darker tanned skin, I actually see a resemblance as well :D

[Magister Eckhart]

Textbook Dinarid in my opinion; I think by looking for Atlanto-Med admixture we are likely being too particular. While I will admit there is some minor input from Atlantid or Cro-Magnid, there is no reason that we cannot classify him as Dinarid, especially since the Dinarid "belt" runs from Romania all the way to its extreme Southern France, meaning that he's a prime candidate, with his Swiss/Croat ancestry.

Hess, I think you can comfortably call yourself "Dinarid" in your profile here. I would be content to put you in a textbook as a West-Dinaric exemplar, in fact.

[onebadcaballero]

I see med with a cromag influence. Then again I'm still new to this.

[Hess]

I see med with a cromag influence. Then again I'm still new to this.

Quite a lot of people have said CM plus something else, so you may not be that far off :)

[Sturmgewehr]

I would say you are a Atlantid/CM/Dinarid

Atlantid, your face shape.

CM, around your jaw mostly I wouldn't say u have typical CM I would say some other kind of CM, Reduced CM.

Dinarid, the dinarid part of yours is mostly around your forehead.

Maybe I see some Pontid in Profile in the second PICs u posted u look a bit Pontid.

Wouldn't be wrong if I classified you as Atlantid/Dinaro CroMagnid/Pontid

[research_centre]

wait, i thought Dinaric meds are shorter in height and darker skinned. Now i'm confused.

No, not in your situation. I see you as Mediterranid, with minor Dinaroid strain.

[research_centre]

You cant really see it because of the lighting but my eyes are brown and my hair is Dark brown. Also, if it helps, i'm 6'0


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Do you by chance know your CI?

[Hess]

Do you by chance know your CI?

no, sorry. And the pics in your quote aren't as good for classification as the ones I posted afterwards.

here
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=369406&postcount=53

[research_centre]

no, sorry. And the pics in your quote aren't as good for classification as the ones I posted afterwards.

here
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=369406&postcount=53

On the frontal view here there appears to be something very slightly Oriental about your orbital area. I am now leaning toward Mediterranid, Dinaroid and minor Mongoloid strains.

[Hess]

On the frontal view here there appears to be something very slightly Oriental about your orbital area. I am now leaning toward Mediterranid, Dinaroid and minor Mongoloid strains.

would you say the minor mongoloid admixture is direct or in the form of East Baltid?

[research_centre]

would you say the minor mongoloid admixture is direct or in the form of East Baltid?

Potentially. Where is Artek? GeistFaust? I would like another opinion here.

[morski]

You`ll fit in Bulgaria:)

[research_centre]

Alpines are "round-headed" and shorter, smaller-framed. You are clearly long-headed and at 6'0 (183cm) are not short, so Alpine is a definite 'No'.



kwp_wp, don't you think his jaw is heavier than the typical Med? Possible CM influence?

The face is clear Med predominant. Visible minor influences (if any) can be debated, but Med is the clear "winner".

Atlanto-Med (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ATLANTO-MEDITERRANID) may be the subtype.

Some Atlanto-Med photos (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate23.htm)

I don't see Atlanto-Med solely for him. The back of the head is wrong, and so is his orbital for this classification. I would like him to get a good measurement of his CI.

[GeistFaust]

Your East-Baltid components are pretty obvious throughout the middle of your face but still the Atlanto-Mediterranid component is dominant. The Dinarid component is minor at best and to me it appears non-existent. I think that your chinky eyes can only be explained by East-Baltid admixture and this seems to be further validated when you compare it with the other features and traits on your face.

[bluesky]

Atlanto-mediterranean+dinarid with some minor CM possibly some east baltid too you would fit in all of balkan, italy, france, hungary, slovakia and maybe spain

[Magister Eckhart]

I still say we're being too specific and nit-picky with a specimen easily classified as Dinarid - he's not even atypical of the category.

[elcid123]

Clasify me I am 6 feet 2

[research_centre]

I'm sorry, i'm rather new at this so this may be a stupid question. What exactly is a Cro Magnon? I always thought Cro Magnons were prehistoric men who lived tens of thousands of years ago. Aren't we all descended from Cro Magnons?

It refers to evidence in structure of the archetypical CM influence being evident in one's current taxonomy.

[research_centre]

I still say we're being too specific and nit-picky with a specimen easily classified as Dinarid - he's not even atypical of the category.

His orbital structure tells me otherwise. I still see a strong Eastern influence.

[Hess]

His orbital structure tells me otherwise. I still see a strong Eastern influence.

eastern like this?
http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/arab-man.jpg?w=333&h=500 :p

[Hess]

Clasify me I am 6 feet 2

you look like a Keltic Nordid to me, but you should probably make your own classification thread :coffee:

[Mordid]

could I fit in Carpathia? :puppy_dp:
Sure, Carpathian people are the most heterogeneous region in Poland.

[exceeder]

Sure, Carpathian people are the most heterogeneous region in Poland.

My thoughts as well.

[research_centre]

eastern like this?
http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/arab-man.jpg?w=333&h=500 :p

No. Eastern Europe. Russia is not out of the question.

[Magister Eckhart]

His orbital structure tells me otherwise. I still see a strong Eastern influence.

I don't disagree that there are other influences, but what use is classification if each individual ends up with a classification unique to himself? It seems to defeat the whole purpose of racial categorisation to begin with. It's better not to be too specific and nit-picky, because it eventually gets to the point where everyone is truly different.

I also simply don't see how the Eastern influence throws off the Dinarid classification; I'm not saying he's a textbook case, by any means, but I certainly think he can be confident in responding "Dinarid" if ever asked for his sub-race.

[Hess]

I don't disagree that there are other influences, but what use is classification if each individual ends up with a classification unique to himself? It seems to defeat the whole purpose of racial categorisation to begin with. It's better not to be too specific and nit-picky, because it eventually gets to the point where everyone is truly different.

I also simply don't see how the Eastern influence throws off the Dinarid classification; I'm not saying he's a textbook case, by any means, but I certainly think he can be confident in responding "Dinarid" if ever asked for his sub-race.

I agree- taxonomy was never meant to be an exact science, and trying so hard to find "minor" influences here and there is failing to se the bigger picture.

[Kacca]

Central Asian with slight mongoloid look

[The Journeyman]

You look very French. You look like someone I met from France. The head shape gives off a CroCop vibe though.

[Hess]

Central Asian with slight mongoloid look

Central Asian like him? :laugh:
http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpimg/28454/28454-28/preview.jpg

and what's the point in mentioning a "slight mongoloid look" when Central Asians are already mongoloids?

[Jerry]

I agree that you look French, I have a French friend who looks a lot like you. I'm not sure if I see the Croatian in you, but on the other hand if you told me you are 100% Croatian I wouldn't be surprised at that either.

Also somehow you remind me of French-Canadian hockey players, I think many of those NHL players have a similar appearance to you.

[Hess]

I agree that you look French, I have a French friend who looks a lot like you. I'm not sure if I see the Croatian in you, but on the other hand if you told me you are 100% Croatian I wouldn't be surprised at that either.

Also somehow you remind me of French-Canadian hockey players, I think many of those NHL players have a similar appearance to you.

Could I pass as Finnish, in your opinion?

[hajduk]

Surely not

[Hurrem sultana]

for one second i thought hess was my cousin....very similar to him :D

he is a bosnian from Herzegovina

[beaver]

Dont like to classify but for Hess - pred Med

[Mordid]

for one second i thought hess was my cousin....very similar to him :D

he is a bosnian from Herzegovina
Hess could pass as muslim, indeed.

[beaver]

Could I pass as Finnish, in your opinion?
Why not? Some % of the finnish spectrum are yours :)

[Hurrem sultana]

Hess could pass as muslim, indeed.

yep :P

[Jerry]

Could I pass as Finnish, in your opinion?

You would be quite atypical (your hair,eyes,eybrows,features are very dark for a Finn even though you are lightskinned), and overall you don't look very Finnish.

It's quite borderline if you could still pass as an atypical dark Finn, but I would say no. You would be probably first guessed as American here, maybe French.

[beaver]

Hess could pass as muslim, indeed.
Some problems with beer in Warsaw?

[Hurrem sultana]

i don't see french at all,,i see balkan,mainly croatian and herzegovina

[Hess]

You would be quite atypical (your hair,eyes,eybrows,features are very dark for a Finn even though you are lightskinned), and overall you don't look very Finnish.

It's quite borderline if you could still pass as an atypical dark Finn, but I would say no. You would be probably first guessed as American here, maybe French.

Thanks for crushing my dreams of being a Nordic Ubermenschen :cry2 :p

[Hess]

i don't see french at all,,i see balkan,mainly croatian and herzegovina

Is Herzegovina mainly populated by Croats?

[Jerry]

Thanks for crushing my dreams of being a Nordic Ubermenschen :cry2 :p

Sorry mate! :D What can I say, hard to pass in this country of albinos being dark haired

Even I am very dark haired in Finland, at the same time some Southern-Europeans and North-Africans have called my hair blonde :confused:

[Hurrem sultana]

after posting my pics and seing yours i can tell you look more saracen than me ;)

[Kacca]

Central Asian like him? :laugh:
http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpimg/28454/28454-28/preview.jpg

and what's the point in mentioning a "slight mongoloid look" when Central Asians are already mongoloids?


Like kazakhs

http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpimg/26983/26983-12/preview.jpg

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/1x8187460/a_friendly_kazakh_man_u73-729576.jpg

definitively a central asian look, particularly in the eyes

[Hess]

after posting my pics and seing yours i can tell you look more saracen than me ;)

It's true, I'm a swarthy Saracen :(

what I do on the weekends-
http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/jihadterr/proislamdemonstrator.gif

[Hess]

Like kazakhs

http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpimg/26983/26983-12/preview.jpg

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/1x8187460/a_friendly_kazakh_man_u73-729576.jpg

definitively a central asian look, particularly in the eyes

hmm, I see what you're getting at but I agree with Agrippa that it's probably just east baltic influence.

[Sylvanus]

Mediterranid+alpinid with turanid (eyes) and dinarid (nose) influences. You are fit in Hungary of course.

Compare with these hungarians:


Turanid:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6516304791_a90ea7e0c9.jpg

Turanid+mongolid:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6516282095_191d612699.jpg

Turanid on the far left turanid+pamirid on the left and a pamirid+baltid mix on the far right:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6506355473_4fe5fa09d4_b.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

It's true, I'm a swarthy Saracen :(

what I do on the weekends-
http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/jihadterr/proislamdemonstrator.gif

you gotta admit i am right...sorry


but you actually look good,i imagined a weirdo based on your posts :D

[Hess]

you gotta admit i am right...sorry


but you actually look good,i imagined a weirdo based on your posts :D

well, I hate to disappoint your expectations. if you want you can still imagine me like this
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_txnr5mob49s/R9oC8MV4iCI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/W8qkDILVxhA/s400/nerd2.JPG

[Leliana]

after posting my pics and seing yours i can tell you look more saracen than me ;)
It's about what's in the head. His head is sane, your head is Muslim.

[Hess]

alright people, classification related things only please :D

[Dilberth]

It appears that the back of the head is flat, a clear Dinaric trait.

Wut?Back of his head is not flat,it's clearly not dolicocephalic,but not flat also.
This is flat head http://www.srbijanet.rs/images/stories/vesti-svet/slike1/1/milo-djukanovic.jpg


Also nose shape is very non-dinarid,look at his nasal root

[Hess]

:confused:

I thought my nose looked very dinarid

[leisitox]

This is a dinaric nose, first example. Note the convex but isnt downturned or fleshy like armenoid´s noses, quite prominent and sharp
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/Borntobeking/escanear00061wh.jpg

[leisitox]

I would classify you as atlanto-med+east baltid(eye shape, area)+alpine influence(nose and back of head no so prominent).

[Dilberth]

:confused:

I thought my nose looked very dinarid

Your nose is very lower rooted than ones posted by leisitox

[leisitox]

Your nose is very lower rooted than ones posted by leisitox

Also I must add that the shape is important as the low rooted Dilbert. A dinaric with no so high rooted nose but with a convex nose and no downturned would be classify as dinaric too.
The shape is more important

[Dilberth]

Also I must add that the shape is important as the low rooted Dilbert. A dinaric with no so high rooted nose but with a convex nose and no downturned would be classify as dinaric too.
The shape is more important

Can you show me dinarids with low-rooted noses?

[Padre Organtino]

I think French Savoy would be one of the best fits given your phenotype. Also Hungary and Austria, IMO.

[Hess]

This is all shocking to me because Agrippa himself said I part Dinarid :coffee:

[AFC_Lad]

With a quick glance you do pass as european, but with a little more examination the asiatic influence is certainly there.. but generally speaking european, but not a sturdy yes, if that's what you were looking for.

[Hess]

With a quick glance you do pass as european, but with a little more examination the asiatic influence is certainly there.. but generally speaking european, but not a sturdy yes, if that's what you were looking for.

I think I have some indirect influences in the form of east baltid (see Klaus Brandauer and Putin), but that's not really that uncommon for many Europeans (including quite a few Scandos).

[Gunslinger]

I think I have some indirect influences in the form of east baltid

It is more likely there's Turanid instead of East Baltid in your phenotype.

[Hess]

It is more likely there's Turanid instead of East Baltid in your phenotype.

hm, I think it's my deep set eyes that give off Turanid "vibes", but other than that my face shape is completely different.

[GeistFaust]

No, I do not see anything Turanid about you. You are a more compact Atlanto-Mediterranid type, which indicates your East-Baltid pedigree. Your forehead, facial traits, and some cranial shapes point to East-Baltid influences which are quite strong relative to your Dinarid component.

[Gunslinger]

No, I do not see anything Turanid about you. Your forehead, facial traits, and some cranial shapes point to East-Baltid influences which are quite strong relative to your Dinarid component.

Yeah right.
Do you really think that East Baltid component can make someone look Central Asian?
Let's take for example this man:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ywssx0.jpg

Is he partly East Baltid too?

[Sikeliot]

Yeah right.
Do you really think that East Baltid component can make someone look Central Asian?
Let's take for example this man:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ywssx0.jpg

Is he partly East Baltid too?

He looks mestizo to me.

[hajduk]

He is gypsy

[Gunslinger]

He looks mestizo to me.

He's from Bulgaria


He is gypsy

Maybe

[Bozkurt_Karabash]

Alpinid(or Baltid?)/Pontid. But I think your eyes are shaped/directed in a odd way but otherwise you pass in that spectrum. I think you could pass as a Russian tatar or Chuvash.

[Hess]

Alpinid(or Baltid?)/Pontid. But I think your eyes are shaped/directed in a odd way but otherwise you pass in that spectrum. I think you could pass as a Russian tatar or Chuvash.

Interesting, would those two be the first places where you would put me?

[Hess]

I asked agrippa and here is what he said


Mongoliform tendencies being of a general kind, if the other elements (in your case mainly Mediterranid, somewhat Dinarid) is so dominant, this means to be sure where it came from, you have to look at the ancestors.

They are pretty low, only a hint, in your case though, so I think Osteuropid/Eastbaltid is much more likely.

Yet I see where the idea of Turanid is coming from, simply by the combination with dark coloration because of your Mediterranid input.

If you like, you can quote me.

Best regards

[GeistFaust]

I asked agrippa and here is what he said


The coincidence can cause the illusion to arise that their is a component that is involved that is not there. This is just a natural occurence at times. In your case it does not disprove that you have Turanid anymore then it proves the viability of the East-Baltid component in conjunction with what we know of your ancestral background.

[safinator]

Dinarid + Med

[Absinthe]

Med/CM.

Similar structure to Henry Rollins... :)

http://www.nndb.com/people/527/000022461/HenryR1.jpg

[CuriousQuisling]

Hasn't the latest research shown that some have a bit
of the Neanderthal in them? In other words, some Neanderthal
and Cro Magnon hooked up?

Q.

[Queen B]

Your eyes doesn't fit in Greece.
Without them, you could fit in Greece very easy. And would be typical (like the guy in a thread, the one that organizes the London Protests).

[Mordid]

I can't believe this thread is still open...

[memobekes]

Atlanto-Pontid with additional Cro-Magnoid and Alpinoid influences.

[Mordid]

hess's dream, fine wog specimen

[Midori]

Dinarid/Mediterranid+East Baltid

[Gospodine]

Sorry for the late reply Hess.

Pred. Atlanto-Med with something I can't put my finger on in the eye region.
Maybe Berid?

A little more pigmented and you'd look quite East Med imo.

I'd place you in Iberia, France and parts of Italy and as a general "American mutt" example.

[aherne]

Dinaric + Pontid + Uralic.

[Pallantides]

Hess you're woggish and chinky at the same time :thumb001:

[Midori]

Sorry for the late reply Hess.

Pred. Atlanto-Med with something I can't put my finger on in the eye region.
Maybe Berid?

A little more pigmented and you'd look quite East Med imo.

I'd place you in Iberia, France and parts of Italy and as a general "American mutt" example.

I think he looks more Balkan than Iberian. He can fit in Macedonia just fine aside from his chinky eyes.

[Gospodine]

I think he looks more Balkan than Iberian. He can fit in Macedonia just fine aside from his chinky eyes.

Really? Imo, he looks more at home in a Med-ish place.

[Mordid]

lol at tags

[dralos]

pontid/baltid and minor mongoloid in the eyes