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Peterski
05-29-2018, 11:53 PM
Map from 1876. Red line is the border of ethnic Lithuanian territory:

http://www.lithuanianmaps.com/images/1876_Litauisches_sprachgebiet2.JPG

https://i.imgur.com/RReTI7m.jpg

Mikula
09-22-2018, 04:49 PM
Map from 1876. Red line is the border of ethnic Lithuanian territory:

http://www.lithuanianmaps.com/images/1876_Litauisches_sprachgebiet2.JPG

https://i.imgur.com/RReTI7m.jpg

Lithuanians at Prussia were protestants, unlike Lithuanians from another areas, right?

Peterski
09-22-2018, 04:59 PM
Lithuanians at Prussia were protestants, unlike Lithuanians from another areas, right?

Yes

Lizdeika
09-28-2018, 10:10 AM
A German map regarding this matter:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ppm0k3.jpg

Bobby Martnen
09-29-2018, 06:13 PM
They should have all be expelled from East Prussia, and made East Prussia more German.

Koenigsberg was always German and should be returned.

Lizdeika
09-30-2018, 09:53 AM
They should have all be expelled from East Prussia, and made East Prussia more German.

Luckily the land grabbing and germanisation was not fully implemented. Baltic people managed to stay within some parts of their historical lands.


Koenigsberg was always German and should be returned.

Google the words: Tvanksta, Twangste, Tuwangste, Twānksta, Twangste.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-30-2018, 10:02 AM
Luckily the land grabbing and germanisation was not fully implemented. The remaining baltic people managed to stay within some part of the historical baltic lands. Eventually Germans lost the lands that did not belong to them in the first place. The tragedy is that the lands are still being governed by other invaders.



Google the words: Tvanksta, Twangste, Tuwangste, Twānksta, Twangste.

How people are religious in Lithuania ? I mean, older people?

Lizdeika
09-30-2018, 10:31 AM
How people are religious in Lithuania ? I mean, older people?

It is hard to generalise. Statistically the bigger part of the population states that they are religious. Neo-paganism is on the rise as well. In reality, on the other hand, quite a lot of them relates religions to traditions. Thus, I'd say its more of an identity thing rather than a deep belief in God(s). Maybe older generations are the closest ones to the sincere belief, i.e., those that are in their 80s+. It's hard to say. This month the pope has visited our country. Quite a few people attended the various religious ceremonies.

Bobby Martnen
09-30-2018, 05:23 PM
Luckily the land grabbing and germanisation was not fully implemented. Baltic people managed to stay within some parts of their historical lands.



Google the words: Tvanksta, Twangste, Tuwangste, Twānksta, Twangste.

Potato peasant.

Mikula
10-22-2018, 10:10 PM
Koenigsberg was always German and should be returned.
Královec was established by a Czech, Přemysl Otakar II. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottokar_II_of_Bohemia), King of Bohemia :p

Peterski
11-15-2018, 02:26 PM
Adam Mickiewicz associated dark hair in Lithuania with ethnic Polish ancestry:

https://archive.org/stream/pantadeuszorlast00mickuoft#page/166/mode/2up/search/Dobrzynskis


Appearance of the Dobrzynskis, a Polish clan in Lithuania, which originated from Dobrzyń Land:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobrzyń_Land

"The Dobrzynskis were distinguished among their Lithuanian brethren by their language and likewise by their stature and their appearance. They were of pure Polish blood, and all had black hair, high foreheads, dark eyes, and aquiline noses. From the land of Dobrzyn they derived their ancient family, and, though they had been settled in Lithuania for four hundred years, they preserved their Masovian speech and customs."

Source: Adam Mickiewicz, "Sir Thaddeus, or the Last Foray in Lithuania" (link):

https://archive.org/stream/pantadeuszorlast00mickuoft#page/166/mode/2up/search/Dobrzynskis

https://archive.org/stream/pantadeuszorlast00mickuoft/pantadeuszorlast00mickuoft_djvu.txt

^^^ So Barbara is probably a "long lost" Polka:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsX_jxPffA

^^^
There were many Poles in Lauda (Kaunas region), who later became Lithuanized:

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauda_(region)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanization

Ethnic Lithuanians were only 2/5 of population of Lauda (Kaunas Uyezd) in 1897:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kovensky_Uyezd


Demographics
At the time of the Russian Empire Census of 1897, Kovensky Uyezd had a population of 227,431. Of these, 41.4% spoke Lithuanian, 23.2% Polish, 19.8% Yiddish, 11.6% Russian, 2.3% German, 0.5% Tatar, 0.4% Belarusian, 0.1% Chuvash, 0.1% Ukrainian, 0.1% Karelian and 0.1% Udmurt as their native language.[1]

Map showing percentage of ethnic Lithuanians by county (uyezd) in early 1900s:

http://terkepek.adatbank.transindex.ro/belso.php?nev=8

http://terkepek.adatbank.transindex.ro/kepek/netre/08.gif

Dandelion
11-15-2018, 02:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsX_jxPffA

^^^
There were many Poles in Lauda (Kaunas region), who later became Lithuanized:


A Lithuanian who loves Poles. Many Lithuanian don't like their Polish minority. :) As a Pole you probably want to visit Vilnius and its surroundings and speak Polish to the locals expecting to be understood and answered to in Polish. :)

Peterski
11-15-2018, 02:36 PM
A Lithuanian who loves Poles.

Yeah! This + dark hair = she is probably "genetically Polish", but Lithuanized.

Poles in Lithuania are both descendants of immigrants from Poland (such as the Dobrzynskis described by Mickiewicz - and Lauda / Kaunas region was especially full of such Polish clans) as well as culturally Polonized locals, as well as mixes of both (probably most cases).

Blondie
11-15-2018, 02:37 PM
Lithuanians are pure slavs:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_East_European.png

Peterski
11-15-2018, 02:47 PM
Lithuanians are pure slavs:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/23andMe_East_European.png

They aren't Slavs at all, they are Balts:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?266873-Prof-Robert-Frost-on-the-Polish-Lithuanian-Union

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balts

Ülev
06-15-2019, 06:27 PM
A German map regarding this matter:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ppm0k3.jpg

:)