Do Mexicans look like Indians?

[Vigilance]

I think they do

https://www.rageon.com/products/brandon-rogers-2

vs

https://www.chitramala.in/simbus-marriage-soon-229478.html

[averagedude]

No

[Acubens]

They look like Amerindians, not like curries. A small minority of Mexicans look like Europeans though.

[Bugsy]

They look like Amerindians, not like curries. A small minority of Mexicans look like Europeans though.

Accurate. An upper class American is more likely to mistake his cleaners as Southern European dagos as opposed to his techie neighbors.

[Acubens]

Accurate. An upper class American is more likely to mistake his cleaners as Southern European dagos as opposed to his techie neighbors.

Who cares about what Americans think. The dump called America will colapse soon.

[Corded]

no

[Kamal900]

I would be insulted if I was a Mexican. I mean, come on.

[Acubens]

I would be insulted if I was a Mexican. I mean, come on.

Yeah, Curries are probably the most pathetic looking population in the world. Mexicans look way better.

But curries were / are more relevant culturally though. Even if most of their achievements are due to the European looking brahmins and ancient Aryans.

[Kamal900]

Yeah, Curries are probably the most pathetic looking population in the world. Mexicans look way better.

But curries were / are more relevant culturally though. Even if most of their achievements are due to the European looking brahmins and ancient Aryans.

The early Aryans would have looked very similar to modern day Russians and Ukranians. We have their genetic results.

[Cristiano viejo]

Mexicans (and the rest of Latinos), North Africans, Levantines, Gypsies and many Asians (Pakis and Indians) many times look the same and it is difficult to differenciate.

[Acubens]

The early Aryans would have looked very similar to modern day Russians and Ukranians. We have their genetic results.

Yeah, I guess they remained European looking until early Middle Ages. If you look at modern brahmins they look far less mixed with Australid types than other Indians. Some isolated populations in South Asia with less Australid influence still resemble Europeans.

[Acubens]

Mexicans (and the rest of Latinos), North Africans, Levantines, Gypsies and many Asians (Pakis and Indians) many times look the same and it is difficult to differenciate.

Agreed. I have a hard tome differentiating some types of MENAs from Latinos and certain South Asians. Some of them just look pan brown.

From Turkey to India and from Mexico to Argentina, some types look very similar.

[Kamal900]

Yeah, I guess they remained European looking until early Middle Ages. If you look at modern brahmins they look far less mixed with Australid types than other Indians. Some isolated populations in South Asia with less Australid influence still resemble Europeans.

Actually, Brahmins are more closely related to middle easterners and central asians than to eastern Europeans, and their Y-DNA haplogroups are not the same as those found in eastern Europe. Indeed. The lower caste Indians tend to be more Austroloid than those from the upper caste.

[Kamal900]

Agreed. I have a hard tome differentiating some types of MENAs from Latinos and certain South Asians. Some of them just look pan brown.

From Turkey to India and from Mexico to Argentina, some types look very similar.

This strange phenomenon is mostly convergent really.

[Bugsy]

Yeah, Curries are probably the most pathetic looking population in the world. Mexicans look way better.

But curries were / are more relevant culturally though. Even if most of their achievements are due to the European looking brahmins and ancient Aryans.

lmao. hispanics, arabs like the dude above me, and southern europeans i will even add are far more despised in the usa than South Asians, who tend to be highly respected by Anglo and Germanic White Americans. Not really surprising, every 3rd doctor is has a last name with Gupta or Singh.

[Acubens]

Actually, Brahmins are more closely related to middle easterners and central asians than to eastern Europeans, and their Y-DNA haplogroups are not the same as those found in eastern Europe. Indeed. The lower caste Indians tend to be more Austroloid than those from the upper caste.

Some Brahmins score around 20% Northern European iirc. More than Greeks and Sicilians. They look very different from average street shitters.

The lower the caste, the more Australid the curries are.

[QUICAS]

Agreed. I have a hard tome differentiating some types of MENAs from Latinos and certain South Asians. Some of them just look pan brown.

From Turkey to India and from Mexico to Argentina, some types look very similar.

Mestizos, pardos and harnizos latinos look anything from North Africa to Pakistan.

[Vigilance]

Mexicans (and the rest of Latinos), North Africans, Levantines, Gypsies and many Asians (Pakis and Indians) many times look the same and it is difficult to differenciate.

For outsiders mostly. But they can differentiate themselves.

[Vigilance]

Yeah, I guess they remained European looking until early Middle Ages. If you look at modern brahmins they look far less mixed with Australid types than other Indians. Some isolated populations in South Asia with less Australid influence still resemble Europeans.

AustralOid. Australids are Abo, they look different from pure Weddoids.

[Bugsy]

Some Brahmins score around 20% Northern European iirc. More than Greeks and Sicilians. They look very different from average street shitters.

The lower the caste, the more Australid the curries are.

Most of the Indians here are Brahmins or Kshatriyas, and a good number of Vaisyas. None of them appear to be middle eastern looking or partially Northern European. They look clealry Indian but different from Dalits.

[Vigilance]

Actually, Brahmins are more closely related to middle easterners and central asians than to eastern Europeans, and their Y-DNA haplogroups are not the same as those found in eastern Europe. Indeed. The lower caste Indians tend to be more Austroloid than those from the upper caste.

Nonsense. On autosmal tests Brahmins score NE Euro component. More than others Indians.

[Bugsy]

Nonsense. On autosmal tests Brahmins score NE Euro component. More than others Indians.

Famous Brahmin, Indian nationalist Bal Gangadhar Tilak, doesn't look closely related to middle easterners at all.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bal-Gangadhar-Tilak

[Acubens]

Most of the Indians here are Brahmins or Kshatriyas, and a good number of Vaisyas. None of them appear to be middle eastern looking or partially Northern European. They look clealry Indian but different from Dalits.

I heard most in USA are low caste or intermediary caste pajeets who look like skinny street shitters. If some guy is brahmin he has no reason to leave India I suppose.

[Bugsy]

Also been around many Brahmin Indians, if they are closely related to middle eastners, why don't they have the typical MENA body odor?

[Vigilance]

Famous Brahmin, Indian nationalist Bal Gangadhar Tilak, doesn't look closely related to middle easterners at all.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bal-Gangadhar-Tilak

I think he looks more regular Indian owing to stronger Weddoid admixture.

He can pass for a Robust Melanid Tamil.

[zhaoyun]

Some do, by coincidence. I had a friend who was Mexican and he said he constantly got attitudes from MENA who thought he was Indian.

[Kamal900]

Nonsense. On autosmal tests Brahmins score NE Euro component. More than others Indians.

I meant by autosomal PCA charts they do considering that Brahmins have more ANI genetic components than the lower caste ones. Obviously, Brahmins have NE genetic components than others which is true for central asians like Pashtuns or Tajiks.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Some Brahmins score around 20% Northern European iirc. More than Greeks and Sicilians. They look very different from average street shitters.

The lower the caste, the more Australid the curries are.

Actually, on HarappaWorld groups such as Haryana and Rajasthani Jatts have a score of NE-Euro ranging from 15 to 17%, a Sicilian of Messina with all the ancestors born in the same province has 14.59% and a modern Greek of Laconia has 23.73%. Whereas on the other hand, using the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 calculator, the North_Sea of Pashtun Afghans and Punjabi Jatts is at 7%, the same level as the Messinese Sicilian, and increases in the other south Italians. However I do not believe that in the past in the higher classes people were of such a European appearance, light hair and eyes would have been a minority among themselves.

[Bugsy]

The early Aryans would have looked very similar to modern day Russians and Ukranians. We have their genetic results.

No they wouldn't. And by the way, Indian Brahmins would be insulted if you said they resembled middle easterners or central Asians. Most Brahmins simply look Indian and not at all related to your group. But they also look different from dalits and lower castes, nonethless they still look Indian.

[Abdelnour]

I don't think Indians or Mexicans look alike at all. I have seen many both here in Florida and Texas and I can tell them apart. Body types are completely different.

Hell, their skin tones are different. Indians have an actual brown undertones while Mexicans and other latinos have a reddish tone.

[Bugsy]

I don't think Indians or Mexicans look alike at all. I have seen many both here in Florida and Texas and I can tell them apart.

Hell, their skin tones are different. Indians have an actual brown undertones while Mexicans and other latinos have a reddish tone.

Indeed, quite easy to tell apart a Spanish speaking McDonalds cashier from a Phd Computer Engineer in Austin, Texas. lol.

Just a joke.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

No they wouldn't. And by the way, Indian Brahmins would be insulted if you said they resembled middle easterners or central Asians. Most Brahmins simply look Indian and not at all related to your group. But they also look different from dalits and lower castes, nonethless they still look Indian.

I agree with you.

This individual lived in Saidu Sharif (Swat Valley, Pakistan) between 500 and 300 BC and has less NE-Euro than many modern ones.

https://i.imgur.com/q9UmGJO.png

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the HarappaWorld model, created by Zack. Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at harappa@zackvision.com or to his HarappaWorld blog.
We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.

Kit Number: Z639605 Elapsed Time: 11.06 seconds


Population
S-Indian 30.79
Baloch 39.27
Caucasian 14.64
NE-Euro 6.85
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.66
NE-Asian 1.81
Papuan 1.04
American 0.36
Beringian 1.24
Mediterranean -
SW-Asian 0.67
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.08
W-African 0.59









Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' model remains the property of its developer.

130837 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Kit Z639605

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.27
2 S-Indian 30.79
3 Caucasian 14.64
4 NE-Euro 6.85
5 Siberian 2.66
6 NE-Asian 1.81
7 Beringian 1.24
8 Papuan 1.04
9 SW-Asian 0.67
10 W-African 0.59
11 American 0.36
12 Pygmy 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kashmiri (harappa) 3.75
2 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 3.78
3 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 4.3
4 punjabi (harappa) 4.76
5 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 5.36
6 sindhi (harappa) 5.47
7 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 5.78
8 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.41
9 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 6.41
10 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.84
11 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.05
12 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7.5
13 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 7.68
14 up-muslim (harappa) 7.8
15 pathan (hgdp) 8.68
16 sindhi (hgdp) 8.74
17 bhatia (harappa) 9.72
18 burusho (hgdp) 9.78
19 kalash (hgdp) 10.58
20 nepalese-a (xing) 10.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% kalash (hgdp) + 23% chenchu (metspalu) @ 2.32
2 64.4% kalash (hgdp) + 35.6% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.39
3 69.4% kalash (hgdp) + 30.6% tamil (harappa) @ 2.43
4 68.1% kalash (hgdp) + 31.9% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 2.46
5 69.4% kalash (hgdp) + 30.6% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.51
6 79% kalash (hgdp) + 21% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 2.54
7 74.3% kalash (hgdp) + 25.7% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 2.59
8 77.9% kalash (hgdp) + 22.1% kamsali (reich) @ 2.63
9 72.9% kalash (hgdp) + 27.1% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.64
10 79.7% kalash (hgdp) + 20.3% ap-madiga (xing) @ 2.64
11 70.6% kalash (hgdp) + 29.4% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.69
12 78.8% kalash (hgdp) + 21.2% sakilli (chaubey) @ 2.73
13 75.8% kalash (hgdp) + 24.2% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 2.73
14 76.1% kalash (hgdp) + 23.9% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 2.75
15 75.9% kalash (hgdp) + 24.1% hallaki (reich) @ 2.77
16 74.9% kalash (hgdp) + 25.1% kurumba (metspalu) @ 2.77
17 64% kalash (hgdp) + 36% rajasthani (harappa) @ 2.78
18 79.9% kalash (hgdp) + 20.1% madiga (reich) @ 2.81
19 74% kalash (hgdp) + 26% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.82
20 73.9% kalash (hgdp) + 26.1% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 2.83


Oracle-4

Kit Num: Z639605
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.27
2 S-Indian 30.79
3 Caucasian 14.64
4 NE-Euro 6.85
5 Siberian 2.66
6 NE-Asian 1.81
7 Beringian 1.24
8 Papuan 1.04


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 kashmiri_harappa @ 3.968405
2 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 4.097074
3 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 4.572930
4 punjabi_harappa @ 5.234788
5 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 5.722645
6 sindhi_harappa @ 5.971399
7 gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 6.234272
8 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 6.401175
9 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 7.001072
10 kashmiri-pahari_harappa @ 7.030785
11 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 7.528825
12 punjabi-arain_xing @ 7.726937
13 punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 8.283749
14 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 8.435452
15 up-muslim_harappa @ 8.562046
16 pathan_hgdp @ 9.536562
17 sindhi_hgdp @ 9.596169
18 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 10.389421
19 bhatia_harappa @ 10.611512
20 nepali_harappa @ 10.616335

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kashmiri_harappa +50% kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 3.344974


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% kalash_hgdp +25% kashmiri_harappa +25% kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.196986


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.196986
2 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + tamil_harappa @ 2.294738
3 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa @ 2.348635
4 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + rajasthani_harappa @ 2.386532
5 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.397218
6 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + velama_reich @ 2.402406
7 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + tamil-vellalar_harappa @ 2.464092
8 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala_harappa @ 2.502480
9 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + sindhi_harappa @ 2.515652
10 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + sindhi_harappa + tamil_harappa @ 2.521963
11 kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-christian_harappa + pathan_hgdp @ 2.522821
12 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kerala_harappa @ 2.556583
13 kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 2.565608
14 ap-reddy_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa @ 2.569507
15 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri-pandit_reich + kerala_harappa @ 2.569693
16 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa @ 2.580225
17 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + velama_metspalu @ 2.591300
18 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + rajasthani_harappa @ 2.592771
19 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + tamil_harappa @ 2.598603
20 chenchu_metspalu + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp @ 2.600765

Done.

Elapsed time 7.5678 seconds.


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.

Kit Number: Z639605 Elapsed Time: 13.33 seconds


Population
North_Sea 1.61
Atlantic 0.62
Baltic 2.28
Eastern_Euro 9.14
West_Med -
West_Asian 29.95
East_Med 2.61
Red_Sea 0.60
South_Asian 47.60
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 3.91
Amerindian 1.07
Oceanian 0.50
Northeast_African 0.10
Sub-Saharan -









Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' model remains the property of its developer.

127895 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit Z639605

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.6
2 West_Asian 29.95
3 Eastern_Euro 9.14
4 Siberian 3.91
5 East_Med 2.61
6 Baltic 2.28
7 North_Sea 1.61
8 Amerindian 1.07
9 Atlantic 0.62
10 Red_Sea 0.6
11 Oceanian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sindhi 6.26
2 Pathan 7.96
3 Punjabi_Jat 8.59
4 Burusho 10.6
5 Kalash 12.26
6 Gujarati 16.24
7 Brahmin_UP 16.56
8 Kshatriya 17.61
9 Brahui 18.37
10 Balochi 18.48
11 Afghan_Pashtun 19.92
12 Makrani 21.89
13 Bangladeshi 21.91
14 Dharkar 25.21
15 Kanjar 26.42
16 Tadjik 27.49
17 Afghan_Uzbeki 27.69
18 Afghan_Tadjik 28.01
19 Velamas 28.16
20 Kurumba 29.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.1% Kalash + 28.9% Velamas @ 4.75
2 72% Kalash + 28% Kurumba @ 4.84
3 71.3% Sindhi + 28.7% Burusho @ 5
4 75% Kalash + 25% Piramalai @ 5.14
5 69.1% Kalash + 30.9% Dharkar @ 5.41
6 76.8% Kalash + 23.2% Chamar @ 5.44
7 73.8% Kalash + 26.2% Dusadh @ 5.46
8 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Evens @ 5.46
9 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Evenki @ 5.46
10 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Dolgan @ 5.48
11 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Yakut @ 5.51
12 77.1% Kalash + 22.9% Sakilli @ 5.52
13 74.5% Kalash + 25.5% Chenchu @ 5.53
14 74% Kalash + 26% North_Kannadi @ 5.55
15 96.4% Sindhi + 3.6% Selkup @ 5.55
16 96.3% Sindhi + 3.7% Ket @ 5.58
17 96.4% Sindhi + 3.6% Saqqaq @ 5.59
18 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Koryak @ 5.6
19 97.1% Sindhi + 2.9% Oroqen @ 5.62
20 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Chukchi @ 5.69


Oracle-4

Kit Num: Z639605
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.60
2 West_Asian 29.95
3 Eastern_Euro 9.14
4 Siberian 3.91
5 East_Med 2.61
6 Baltic 2.28
7 North_Sea 1.61
8 Amerindian 1.07


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 6.818976
2 Pathan @ 8.879062
3 Punjabi_Jat @ 9.619177
4 Burusho @ 11.557381
5 Kalash @ 13.681041
6 Gujarati @ 18.358482
7 Brahmin_UP @ 18.914335
8 Kshatriya @ 19.974279
9 Brahui @ 20.799507
10 Balochi @ 20.876341
11 Afghan_Pashtun @ 22.370403
12 Bangladeshi @ 24.376324
13 Makrani @ 24.760229
14 Dharkar @ 28.612226
15 Kanjar @ 29.908958
16 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 30.429617
17 Tadjik @ 30.531771
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 30.776731
19 Velamas @ 31.773064
20 Kurumba @ 33.109241

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +50% Sindhi @ 6.267156


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% Pathan +25% Velamas @ 5.148090


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 4.847402
2 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.110496
3 Kalash + Kalash + Pathan + Velamas @ 5.148090
4 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.244239
5 Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba + Pathan @ 5.281985
6 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.292447
7 Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi + Velamas @ 5.326591
8 Burusho + Kalash + Pathan + Velamas @ 5.338675
9 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.345142
10 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.401873
11 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.418705
12 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.427667
13 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.447251
14 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.457684
15 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.482657
16 Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba + Sindhi @ 5.483003
17 Burusho + Sindhi + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 5.492077
18 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.512434
19 Burusho + Gujarati + Kalash + Sindhi @ 5.526594
20 Dharkar + Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi @ 5.580051

Done.

Elapsed time 0.4482 seconds.

[Kamal900]

No they wouldn't. And by the way, Indian Brahmins would be insulted if you said they resembled middle easterners or central Asians. Most Brahmins simply look Indian and not at all related to your group. But they also look different from dalits and lower castes, nonethless they still look Indian.

Hey fractal.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Hey fractal.

Lol is he Fractal?

[Bugsy]

I agree with you.

This individual lived in Saidu Sharif (Swat Valley, Pakistan) between 500 and 300 BC and has less NE-Euro than many modern ones.

https://i.imgur.com/q9UmGJO.png

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the HarappaWorld model, created by Zack. Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at harappa@zackvision.com or to his HarappaWorld blog.
We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.

Kit Number: Z639605 Elapsed Time: 11.06 seconds


Population
S-Indian 30.79
Baloch 39.27
Caucasian 14.64
NE-Euro 6.85
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.66
NE-Asian 1.81
Papuan 1.04
American 0.36
Beringian 1.24
Mediterranean -
SW-Asian 0.67
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.08
W-African 0.59









Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' model remains the property of its developer.

130837 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Kit Z639605

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.27
2 S-Indian 30.79
3 Caucasian 14.64
4 NE-Euro 6.85
5 Siberian 2.66
6 NE-Asian 1.81
7 Beringian 1.24
8 Papuan 1.04
9 SW-Asian 0.67
10 W-African 0.59
11 American 0.36
12 Pygmy 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kashmiri (harappa) 3.75
2 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 3.78
3 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 4.3
4 punjabi (harappa) 4.76
5 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 5.36
6 sindhi (harappa) 5.47
7 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 5.78
8 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.41
9 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 6.41
10 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.84
11 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.05
12 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7.5
13 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 7.68
14 up-muslim (harappa) 7.8
15 pathan (hgdp) 8.68
16 sindhi (hgdp) 8.74
17 bhatia (harappa) 9.72
18 burusho (hgdp) 9.78
19 kalash (hgdp) 10.58
20 nepalese-a (xing) 10.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% kalash (hgdp) + 23% chenchu (metspalu) @ 2.32
2 64.4% kalash (hgdp) + 35.6% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.39
3 69.4% kalash (hgdp) + 30.6% tamil (harappa) @ 2.43
4 68.1% kalash (hgdp) + 31.9% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 2.46
5 69.4% kalash (hgdp) + 30.6% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.51
6 79% kalash (hgdp) + 21% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 2.54
7 74.3% kalash (hgdp) + 25.7% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 2.59
8 77.9% kalash (hgdp) + 22.1% kamsali (reich) @ 2.63
9 72.9% kalash (hgdp) + 27.1% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.64
10 79.7% kalash (hgdp) + 20.3% ap-madiga (xing) @ 2.64
11 70.6% kalash (hgdp) + 29.4% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.69
12 78.8% kalash (hgdp) + 21.2% sakilli (chaubey) @ 2.73
13 75.8% kalash (hgdp) + 24.2% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 2.73
14 76.1% kalash (hgdp) + 23.9% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 2.75
15 75.9% kalash (hgdp) + 24.1% hallaki (reich) @ 2.77
16 74.9% kalash (hgdp) + 25.1% kurumba (metspalu) @ 2.77
17 64% kalash (hgdp) + 36% rajasthani (harappa) @ 2.78
18 79.9% kalash (hgdp) + 20.1% madiga (reich) @ 2.81
19 74% kalash (hgdp) + 26% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.82
20 73.9% kalash (hgdp) + 26.1% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 2.83


Oracle-4

Kit Num: Z639605
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.27
2 S-Indian 30.79
3 Caucasian 14.64
4 NE-Euro 6.85
5 Siberian 2.66
6 NE-Asian 1.81
7 Beringian 1.24
8 Papuan 1.04


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 kashmiri_harappa @ 3.968405
2 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 4.097074
3 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 4.572930
4 punjabi_harappa @ 5.234788
5 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 5.722645
6 sindhi_harappa @ 5.971399
7 gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 6.234272
8 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 6.401175
9 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 7.001072
10 kashmiri-pahari_harappa @ 7.030785
11 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 7.528825
12 punjabi-arain_xing @ 7.726937
13 punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 8.283749
14 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 8.435452
15 up-muslim_harappa @ 8.562046
16 pathan_hgdp @ 9.536562
17 sindhi_hgdp @ 9.596169
18 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 10.389421
19 bhatia_harappa @ 10.611512
20 nepali_harappa @ 10.616335

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kashmiri_harappa +50% kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 3.344974


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% kalash_hgdp +25% kashmiri_harappa +25% kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.196986


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.196986
2 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + tamil_harappa @ 2.294738
3 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa @ 2.348635
4 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + rajasthani_harappa @ 2.386532
5 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.397218
6 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + velama_reich @ 2.402406
7 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + tamil-vellalar_harappa @ 2.464092
8 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala_harappa @ 2.502480
9 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + sindhi_harappa @ 2.515652
10 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + sindhi_harappa + tamil_harappa @ 2.521963
11 kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-christian_harappa + pathan_hgdp @ 2.522821
12 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kerala_harappa @ 2.556583
13 kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 2.565608
14 ap-reddy_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa @ 2.569507
15 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri-pandit_reich + kerala_harappa @ 2.569693
16 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa @ 2.580225
17 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + velama_metspalu @ 2.591300
18 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + rajasthani_harappa @ 2.592771
19 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + tamil_harappa @ 2.598603
20 chenchu_metspalu + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp @ 2.600765

Done.

Elapsed time 7.5678 seconds.


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.

Kit Number: Z639605 Elapsed Time: 13.33 seconds


Population
North_Sea 1.61
Atlantic 0.62
Baltic 2.28
Eastern_Euro 9.14
West_Med -
West_Asian 29.95
East_Med 2.61
Red_Sea 0.60
South_Asian 47.60
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 3.91
Amerindian 1.07
Oceanian 0.50
Northeast_African 0.10
Sub-Saharan -









Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' model remains the property of its developer.

127895 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit Z639605

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.6
2 West_Asian 29.95
3 Eastern_Euro 9.14
4 Siberian 3.91
5 East_Med 2.61
6 Baltic 2.28
7 North_Sea 1.61
8 Amerindian 1.07
9 Atlantic 0.62
10 Red_Sea 0.6
11 Oceanian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sindhi 6.26
2 Pathan 7.96
3 Punjabi_Jat 8.59
4 Burusho 10.6
5 Kalash 12.26
6 Gujarati 16.24
7 Brahmin_UP 16.56
8 Kshatriya 17.61
9 Brahui 18.37
10 Balochi 18.48
11 Afghan_Pashtun 19.92
12 Makrani 21.89
13 Bangladeshi 21.91
14 Dharkar 25.21
15 Kanjar 26.42
16 Tadjik 27.49
17 Afghan_Uzbeki 27.69
18 Afghan_Tadjik 28.01
19 Velamas 28.16
20 Kurumba 29.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.1% Kalash + 28.9% Velamas @ 4.75
2 72% Kalash + 28% Kurumba @ 4.84
3 71.3% Sindhi + 28.7% Burusho @ 5
4 75% Kalash + 25% Piramalai @ 5.14
5 69.1% Kalash + 30.9% Dharkar @ 5.41
6 76.8% Kalash + 23.2% Chamar @ 5.44
7 73.8% Kalash + 26.2% Dusadh @ 5.46
8 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Evens @ 5.46
9 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Evenki @ 5.46
10 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Dolgan @ 5.48
11 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Yakut @ 5.51
12 77.1% Kalash + 22.9% Sakilli @ 5.52
13 74.5% Kalash + 25.5% Chenchu @ 5.53
14 74% Kalash + 26% North_Kannadi @ 5.55
15 96.4% Sindhi + 3.6% Selkup @ 5.55
16 96.3% Sindhi + 3.7% Ket @ 5.58
17 96.4% Sindhi + 3.6% Saqqaq @ 5.59
18 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Koryak @ 5.6
19 97.1% Sindhi + 2.9% Oroqen @ 5.62
20 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Chukchi @ 5.69


Oracle-4

Kit Num: Z639605
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.60
2 West_Asian 29.95
3 Eastern_Euro 9.14
4 Siberian 3.91
5 East_Med 2.61
6 Baltic 2.28
7 North_Sea 1.61
8 Amerindian 1.07


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 6.818976
2 Pathan @ 8.879062
3 Punjabi_Jat @ 9.619177
4 Burusho @ 11.557381
5 Kalash @ 13.681041
6 Gujarati @ 18.358482
7 Brahmin_UP @ 18.914335
8 Kshatriya @ 19.974279
9 Brahui @ 20.799507
10 Balochi @ 20.876341
11 Afghan_Pashtun @ 22.370403
12 Bangladeshi @ 24.376324
13 Makrani @ 24.760229
14 Dharkar @ 28.612226
15 Kanjar @ 29.908958
16 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 30.429617
17 Tadjik @ 30.531771
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 30.776731
19 Velamas @ 31.773064
20 Kurumba @ 33.109241

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +50% Sindhi @ 6.267156


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% Pathan +25% Velamas @ 5.148090


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 4.847402
2 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.110496
3 Kalash + Kalash + Pathan + Velamas @ 5.148090
4 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.244239
5 Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba + Pathan @ 5.281985
6 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.292447
7 Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi + Velamas @ 5.326591
8 Burusho + Kalash + Pathan + Velamas @ 5.338675
9 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.345142
10 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.401873
11 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.418705
12 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.427667
13 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.447251
14 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.457684
15 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.482657
16 Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba + Sindhi @ 5.483003
17 Burusho + Sindhi + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 5.492077
18 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.512434
19 Burusho + Gujarati + Kalash + Sindhi @ 5.526594
20 Dharkar + Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi @ 5.580051

Done.

Elapsed time 0.4482 seconds.


+1.

[Kamal900]

I agree with you.

This individual lived in Saidu Sharif (Swat Valley, Pakistan) between 500 and 300 BC and has less NE-Euro than many modern ones.

https://i.imgur.com/q9UmGJO.png

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the HarappaWorld model, created by Zack. Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at harappa@zackvision.com or to his HarappaWorld blog.
We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.

Kit Number: Z639605 Elapsed Time: 11.06 seconds


Population
S-Indian 30.79
Baloch 39.27
Caucasian 14.64
NE-Euro 6.85
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.66
NE-Asian 1.81
Papuan 1.04
American 0.36
Beringian 1.24
Mediterranean -
SW-Asian 0.67
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.08
W-African 0.59









Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' model remains the property of its developer.

130837 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Kit Z639605

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.27
2 S-Indian 30.79
3 Caucasian 14.64
4 NE-Euro 6.85
5 Siberian 2.66
6 NE-Asian 1.81
7 Beringian 1.24
8 Papuan 1.04
9 SW-Asian 0.67
10 W-African 0.59
11 American 0.36
12 Pygmy 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kashmiri (harappa) 3.75
2 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 3.78
3 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 4.3
4 punjabi (harappa) 4.76
5 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 5.36
6 sindhi (harappa) 5.47
7 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 5.78
8 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.41
9 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 6.41
10 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.84
11 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.05
12 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7.5
13 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 7.68
14 up-muslim (harappa) 7.8
15 pathan (hgdp) 8.68
16 sindhi (hgdp) 8.74
17 bhatia (harappa) 9.72
18 burusho (hgdp) 9.78
19 kalash (hgdp) 10.58
20 nepalese-a (xing) 10.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% kalash (hgdp) + 23% chenchu (metspalu) @ 2.32
2 64.4% kalash (hgdp) + 35.6% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.39
3 69.4% kalash (hgdp) + 30.6% tamil (harappa) @ 2.43
4 68.1% kalash (hgdp) + 31.9% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 2.46
5 69.4% kalash (hgdp) + 30.6% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.51
6 79% kalash (hgdp) + 21% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 2.54
7 74.3% kalash (hgdp) + 25.7% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 2.59
8 77.9% kalash (hgdp) + 22.1% kamsali (reich) @ 2.63
9 72.9% kalash (hgdp) + 27.1% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.64
10 79.7% kalash (hgdp) + 20.3% ap-madiga (xing) @ 2.64
11 70.6% kalash (hgdp) + 29.4% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.69
12 78.8% kalash (hgdp) + 21.2% sakilli (chaubey) @ 2.73
13 75.8% kalash (hgdp) + 24.2% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 2.73
14 76.1% kalash (hgdp) + 23.9% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 2.75
15 75.9% kalash (hgdp) + 24.1% hallaki (reich) @ 2.77
16 74.9% kalash (hgdp) + 25.1% kurumba (metspalu) @ 2.77
17 64% kalash (hgdp) + 36% rajasthani (harappa) @ 2.78
18 79.9% kalash (hgdp) + 20.1% madiga (reich) @ 2.81
19 74% kalash (hgdp) + 26% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.82
20 73.9% kalash (hgdp) + 26.1% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 2.83


Oracle-4

Kit Num: Z639605
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 39.27
2 S-Indian 30.79
3 Caucasian 14.64
4 NE-Euro 6.85
5 Siberian 2.66
6 NE-Asian 1.81
7 Beringian 1.24
8 Papuan 1.04


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 kashmiri_harappa @ 3.968405
2 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 4.097074
3 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 4.572930
4 punjabi_harappa @ 5.234788
5 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 5.722645
6 sindhi_harappa @ 5.971399
7 gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 6.234272
8 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 6.401175
9 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 7.001072
10 kashmiri-pahari_harappa @ 7.030785
11 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 7.528825
12 punjabi-arain_xing @ 7.726937
13 punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 8.283749
14 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 8.435452
15 up-muslim_harappa @ 8.562046
16 pathan_hgdp @ 9.536562
17 sindhi_hgdp @ 9.596169
18 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 10.389421
19 bhatia_harappa @ 10.611512
20 nepali_harappa @ 10.616335

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kashmiri_harappa +50% kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 3.344974


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% kalash_hgdp +25% kashmiri_harappa +25% kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.196986


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.196986
2 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + tamil_harappa @ 2.294738
3 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa @ 2.348635
4 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + rajasthani_harappa @ 2.386532
5 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.397218
6 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + velama_reich @ 2.402406
7 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + tamil-vellalar_harappa @ 2.464092
8 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala_harappa @ 2.502480
9 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + sindhi_harappa @ 2.515652
10 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + sindhi_harappa + tamil_harappa @ 2.521963
11 kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-christian_harappa + pathan_hgdp @ 2.522821
12 gujarati-muslim_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kerala_harappa @ 2.556583
13 kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 2.565608
14 ap-reddy_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa @ 2.569507
15 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri-pandit_reich + kerala_harappa @ 2.569693
16 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa @ 2.580225
17 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + pashtun_harappa + velama_metspalu @ 2.591300
18 kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kashmiri_harappa + rajasthani_harappa @ 2.592771
19 burusho_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + tamil_harappa @ 2.598603
20 chenchu_metspalu + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp + kalash_hgdp @ 2.600765

Done.

Elapsed time 7.5678 seconds.


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.

Kit Number: Z639605 Elapsed Time: 13.33 seconds


Population
North_Sea 1.61
Atlantic 0.62
Baltic 2.28
Eastern_Euro 9.14
West_Med -
West_Asian 29.95
East_Med 2.61
Red_Sea 0.60
South_Asian 47.60
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 3.91
Amerindian 1.07
Oceanian 0.50
Northeast_African 0.10
Sub-Saharan -









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Kit Z639605

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.6
2 West_Asian 29.95
3 Eastern_Euro 9.14
4 Siberian 3.91
5 East_Med 2.61
6 Baltic 2.28
7 North_Sea 1.61
8 Amerindian 1.07
9 Atlantic 0.62
10 Red_Sea 0.6
11 Oceanian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sindhi 6.26
2 Pathan 7.96
3 Punjabi_Jat 8.59
4 Burusho 10.6
5 Kalash 12.26
6 Gujarati 16.24
7 Brahmin_UP 16.56
8 Kshatriya 17.61
9 Brahui 18.37
10 Balochi 18.48
11 Afghan_Pashtun 19.92
12 Makrani 21.89
13 Bangladeshi 21.91
14 Dharkar 25.21
15 Kanjar 26.42
16 Tadjik 27.49
17 Afghan_Uzbeki 27.69
18 Afghan_Tadjik 28.01
19 Velamas 28.16
20 Kurumba 29.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.1% Kalash + 28.9% Velamas @ 4.75
2 72% Kalash + 28% Kurumba @ 4.84
3 71.3% Sindhi + 28.7% Burusho @ 5
4 75% Kalash + 25% Piramalai @ 5.14
5 69.1% Kalash + 30.9% Dharkar @ 5.41
6 76.8% Kalash + 23.2% Chamar @ 5.44
7 73.8% Kalash + 26.2% Dusadh @ 5.46
8 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Evens @ 5.46
9 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Evenki @ 5.46
10 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Dolgan @ 5.48
11 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Yakut @ 5.51
12 77.1% Kalash + 22.9% Sakilli @ 5.52
13 74.5% Kalash + 25.5% Chenchu @ 5.53
14 74% Kalash + 26% North_Kannadi @ 5.55
15 96.4% Sindhi + 3.6% Selkup @ 5.55
16 96.3% Sindhi + 3.7% Ket @ 5.58
17 96.4% Sindhi + 3.6% Saqqaq @ 5.59
18 96.8% Sindhi + 3.2% Koryak @ 5.6
19 97.1% Sindhi + 2.9% Oroqen @ 5.62
20 96.9% Sindhi + 3.1% Chukchi @ 5.69


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Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.60
2 West_Asian 29.95
3 Eastern_Euro 9.14
4 Siberian 3.91
5 East_Med 2.61
6 Baltic 2.28
7 North_Sea 1.61
8 Amerindian 1.07


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 6.818976
2 Pathan @ 8.879062
3 Punjabi_Jat @ 9.619177
4 Burusho @ 11.557381
5 Kalash @ 13.681041
6 Gujarati @ 18.358482
7 Brahmin_UP @ 18.914335
8 Kshatriya @ 19.974279
9 Brahui @ 20.799507
10 Balochi @ 20.876341
11 Afghan_Pashtun @ 22.370403
12 Bangladeshi @ 24.376324
13 Makrani @ 24.760229
14 Dharkar @ 28.612226
15 Kanjar @ 29.908958
16 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 30.429617
17 Tadjik @ 30.531771
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 30.776731
19 Velamas @ 31.773064
20 Kurumba @ 33.109241

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +50% Sindhi @ 6.267156


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% Pathan +25% Velamas @ 5.148090


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 4.847402
2 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.110496
3 Kalash + Kalash + Pathan + Velamas @ 5.148090
4 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.244239
5 Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba + Pathan @ 5.281985
6 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.292447
7 Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi + Velamas @ 5.326591
8 Burusho + Kalash + Pathan + Velamas @ 5.338675
9 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.345142
10 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.401873
11 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.418705
12 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.427667
13 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.447251
14 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.457684
15 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.482657
16 Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba + Sindhi @ 5.483003
17 Burusho + Sindhi + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 5.492077
18 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.512434
19 Burusho + Gujarati + Kalash + Sindhi @ 5.526594
20 Dharkar + Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi @ 5.580051

Done.

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Nice results. I was mainly talking about the early Indo-Iranian or Aryan people from central asia.

[Kamal900]

Lol is he Fractal?

Yup.

[Bugsy]

Yup.

So let me get this straight. Anyone who says the original Aryans did not resemble modern day Slavs, or that Indians are the most successful ethnicity in America, or that Brahmins do not resemble Arabians or Iranians, is an Indian troll ?

Great logic there.

[lameduck]

some mexicans and some Indians can look similar superficially.

[Bugsy]

some mexicans and some Indians can look similar superficially.

I've seen more Pakistanis that resemble Mexicans than Indians.

[lameduck]

I've seen more Pakistanis that resemble Mexicans than Indians.

I have family members in USA and they get mistaken for latinos a lot, so I guess there can be similarities.

can this Pakistani cricketer pass as latino?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/assets/uploads/updates/2017-06-06/l_208958_084535_updates.gif

[Bugsy]

I have family members in USA and they get mistaken for latinos a lot, so I guess there can be similarities.

can this Pakistani cricketer pass as latino?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/assets/uploads/updates/2017-06-06/l_208958_084535_updates.gif

Not really. He looks quite Pakistani. But some Americans might mistake him as such.

[Kamal900]

So let me get this straight. Anyone who says the original Aryans did not resemble modern day Slavs, or that Indians are the most successful ethnicity in America, or that Brahmins do not resemble Arabians or Iranians, is an Indian troll ?

Great logic there.

Thanks for the give away. fractal.

[Kamal900]

I have family members in USA and they get mistaken for latinos a lot, so I guess there can be similarities.

can this Pakistani cricketer pass as latino?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/assets/uploads/updates/2017-06-06/l_208958_084535_updates.gif

Yes, he can. Especially for a Pardo Brazilian or a central american Mestizo.

[Congolese Rice]

Mexicans (and the rest of Latinos), North Africans, Levantines, Gypsies and many Asians (Pakis and Indians) many times look the same and it is difficult to differenciate.

* i can relate as fuck * people either say i look Latino or Arab, it's always a switch between those two populations, i don't know why people think i look Latino but sure it's there i suppose, my "Latino" Heritage equals to around 15-25% of my total heritage. And my Arab bests that of both my Latino and African.

[Congolese Rice]

lmao. hispanics, arabs like the dude above me, and southern europeans i will even add are far more despised in the usa than South Asians, who tend to be highly respected by Anglo and Germanic White Americans. Not really surprising, every 3rd doctor is has a last name with Gupta or Singh.

lol, would i be despised in the US then? If i didnt tell them i were half Pennsylvanian american they would probably so. Alot of people say i look Egyptian/Bedouin xd

[Congolese Rice]

Yes, he can. Especially for a Pardo Brazilian or a central american Mestizo.

I agree, he looks mixed-white Brazilian. He has a fake imitated SSA'ish vibe i would say.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Yeah, Curries are probably the most pathetic looking population in the world. Mexicans look way better.

But curries were / are more relevant culturally though. Even if most of their achievements are due to the European looking brahmins and ancient Aryans.

Some brahmins still retain their ancient looks.

https://scontent.faep8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25660124_1787256381318464_6031997167471232801_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=56f7e6a5656944a796972844910f0b0b&oe=5B774336
https://scontent.faep8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25659854_1787256427985126_4979181697517643202_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=7b04d49ad4057d7bab6be7de05dd2cfb&oe=5BBA03CB

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Some brahmins still retain their ancient looks.

https://scontent.faep8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25660124_1787256381318464_6031997167471232801_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=56f7e6a5656944a796972844910f0b0b&oe=5B774336
https://scontent.faep8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25659854_1787256427985126_4979181697517643202_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=7b04d49ad4057d7bab6be7de05dd2cfb&oe=5BBA03CB

That guy is Dutch, lol.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

^ https://www.facebook.com/pg/swamipurnachaitanya/about


Swami Purnachaitanya was born and brought up in The Netherlands, and from an early age he showed a keen interest in the spiritual practices, cultures and philosophies of the East

[Haider]

No, the former look mixed New World and the latter Old World.

[Acubens]

That guy is Dutch, lol.

Yeah, but this one is Indian:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRITesEoJiKTgK70eKrAA-9-CQT89L5hupjinHBb0OG00OjkBw08Q

Aryan invasion theory is fact.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

^ https://www.facebook.com/pg/swamipurnachaitanya/about

But his parents were indians.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Aryan invasion theory is fact.

Have I ever denied it?


But his parents were indians.

No, he's Dutch and it shows. Light haired/eyed South Asians look different.

[Meerkat]

No. I've never seen a Mexican who looked Indian or vice versa.

[Abdelnour]

Indian Crowd(Mumbai):

https://www.hindustantimes.com/rf/image_size_960x540/HT/p2/2017/11/20/Pictures/november19-satyabrata-concert-sheeran-tripathy-hindustan-enjoying_ee90d97c-cdd2-11e7-ab73-d03b3a59d103.jpg

Mexican Crowd(Mexico City):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hY0QxANjwrQ/T_n5lMnVviI/AAAAAAAABEQ/PpbHykDpFW0/s1600/tj_crowd_1.jpg

[Thambi]

some do, but overall not so much. The only indians that sort of resemble latinos are northwest indians such as punjabis and kashmiris. Thats because of the light brown skin tone and some mutual features. some upper caste gujaratis, central and south indians can look latino as well I suppose.

[Alvorada Potente]

They look more Pakistan or Phillipin

[Xacal]

Nope

[Carlito's Way]

overall no, but there are mexicans who do look indian and even stereotypical indian, can post many examples

[Kriptc06]

No

[Carlito's Way]

I have family members in USA and they get mistaken for latinos a lot, so I guess there can be similarities.

can this Pakistani cricketer pass as latino?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/assets/uploads/updates/2017-06-06/l_208958_084535_updates.gif


does Diego Garcy look Pakistani to you?
https://www.instagram.com/diegogarcy/?hl=en

[Matalino]

Not to me

[lameduck]

does Diego Garcy look Pakistani to you?
https://www.instagram.com/diegogarcy/?hl=en

he can definitely pass , he remind me of this Pakistani

https://c.tribune.com.pk/2017/11/1546781-ahadrazamirheightweightage-1509522060-113-640x480.jpg

[lameduck]

Yeah, but this one is Indian:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRITesEoJiKTgK70eKrAA-9-CQT89L5hupjinHBb0OG00OjkBw08Q

Aryan invasion theory is fact.

he is Pakistani , he is legendary Pakistani cricketer Fazal Mehmood
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Fazal_Mahmood.jpg

[Randulf]

LOL! as Italy is fully falling. Economic collapse, the Vatican still raping thousands under Roman's noses. Trump resisting the globalists here , I wish you could taste the freedom and prosperity mate.

[Carlito's Way]

he can definitely pass , he remind me of this Pakistani

https://c.tribune.com.pk/2017/11/1546781-ahadrazamirheightweightage-1509522060-113-640x480.jpg

when i first saw Diego Garcy, without knowing his name or background, i thought he was from Pakistan or around those areas

[Radiy]

yes

[Newsboy]

There is some overlap between Mexicans and Indians, depending on the region of India.

Based on my personal experience, Bengalis and Assamese overlap much with Mexicans.

[Iloko]

I've seen some in the Midwest who've been mistaken as the other

[Mortimer]

I think Gypsies dont look like Mexicans. There are strong similarities but I would distinguish a group of mexicans from a group of gypsies. I can distinguish gypsies from MENA and from Southasians so I am sure I would distinguish them from Mexicans too. Depends mexicans are diverse, some mexicans look white even like el chapo, some look like gypsies, but many dont look either. If you see a large group you would see it.

Comparison

gypsies
https://rs.n1info.com/Picture/97075/jpeg/romi2.jpg

http://www.publicpolicy.rs/images/253398_romi-fudbal01-blic-rajko-ristic_orig.jpg

http://xdn.tf.rs/2015/07/01/Romi-zastita-ljuskih-prava-Foto-Telegraf-5-670x447.jpg

Mexicans
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CEW87B/mexicans-mexican-people-mexican-people-person-adults-men-cowboy-cowboys-CEW87B.jpg
http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/mexico/127777d1396214446-what-ancestry-do-most-mexicans-have-r-mexico-election-vote-buying-large570.jpg

punjabis (tamils are unique anyways and worlds apart)
http://khurki.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Punjab-University.jpg

arabs(middle eastern)
https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/editorials/2016/06/27/canada-takes-the-lead-in-raising-funds-for-iraq-editorial/fallujah.jpg

[Mortimer]

Mexicans (and the rest of Latinos), North Africans, Levantines, Gypsies and many Asians (Pakis and Indians) many times look the same and it is difficult to differenciate.

in a few individual cases it might be difficult not a group or population level, all of them are very different.

[Bobby Martnen]

No

[x54xx]

There is some overlap between Mexicans and Indians, depending on the region of India.

Based on my personal experience, Bengalis and Assamese overlap much with Mexicans.

uh not really, it's quite easy to distinguish between Indians and Mexicans. But if any old world group would look like them it would be MENAs. MENAs and Latinos are long lost brothers.lol

[Newsboy]

uh not really, it's quite easy to distinguish between Indians and Mexicans. But if any old world group would look like them it would be MENAs. MENAs and Latinos are long lost brothers.lol

This is subjective I suppose. I don't think MENAs and Latinos look that alike either. Amerindian/Mongoloid is strong among most Mexicans while totally lacking among MENAs.

But... let's agree to disagree.

[Vigilance]

uh not really, it's quite easy to distinguish between Indians and Mexicans. But if any old world group would look like them it would be MENAs. MENAs and Latinos are long lost brothers.lol

Would this Indian woman be perceived as Latino in the USA?

If she spoke Spanish to Latinos would they doubt her?

https://youtu.be/gDAfbNd3tdk

[Heather Duval]

Mexicans are more European than you Indians
https://i.imgur.com/SIq5Snz.gif

[Vigilance]

Mexicans are more European than you Indians
https://i.imgur.com/SIq5Snz.gif

Not really. At least not Caucasoid. North Indians on average are more Caucasoid than Latinos.

Pakistanis are without a doubt more Caucasoid than Latinos.

I dare you to show me a Latina who looks like this

http://www.wikibiopharm.com/hansika-motwani.html

In fact even when Latinos are fully/almost fully Spanish, that is when they resemble (fully Caucasoid) Indians even more

This guy would be mistaken as "Spanish" in the US

https://youtu.be/MYVTzhljY90

Latinos look like Gabriel Inglesias and Baby Bash *lol*

Even White people won't mistake dark wogs like Rachel Ray as Latino

[Abdelnour]

uh not really, it's quite easy to distinguish between Indians and Mexicans. But if any old world group would look like them it would be MENAs. MENAs and Latinos are long lost brothers.lol

I can see the similarities between North Africans and Caribbean Latinos, but MENA and Latinos don't alike at all.

[Carlito's Way]

Not really. At least not Caucasoid. North Indians on average are more Caucasoid than Latinos.

Pakistanis are without a doubt more Caucasoid than Latinos.

I dare you to show me a Latina who looks like this

http://www.wikibiopharm.com/hansika-motwani.html

In fact even when Latinos are fully/almost fully Spanish, that is when they resemble (fully Caucasoid) Indians even more

This guy would be mistaken as "Spanish" in the US

https://youtu.be/MYVTzhljY90

Latinos look like Gabriel Inglesias and Baby Bash *lol*

Even White people won't mistake dark wogs like Rachel Ray as Latino

you have to be a dumbass? the only type latinos who look indian are the pred amerindians and triracials, that is why i see many pseudo south asians in southern mexico, while the whiter ones tend to look more pseudo middle eastern/turkish/armenian, and the very euro ones obviously european

[ButlerKing]

To be honest I noticed a pseudo-south Asian look but kinda hard to explain because a lot o Mexican also look pseudo-west Asian. I also seen plenty of west Asian with pseudo south Asian look.

[Vigilance]

you have to be a dumbass? the only type latinos who look indian are the pred amerindians and triracials, that is why i see many pseudo south asians in southern mexico, while the whiter ones tend to look more pseudo middle eastern/turkish/armenian, and the very euro ones obviously european

Fuck you talking about?

1) Amerinds look like Chinese, too Mong to resemble Indians

2) Gabriel Inglesias looks abit like Mortimer but he is too Mong

3) North Indians don't have that strong Negrito/Weddoid, so they don't look triracial

4) nope Latinos don't look like Gulfs or North Africans who can be slight Negroid

[Vigilance]

What Latino looks like this Sindhi Pakistani?

http://www.wikibiopharm.com/hansika-motwani.html

None!

[Carlito's Way]

Fuck you talking about?

1) Amerinds look like Chinese, too Mong to resemble Indians

2) Gabriel Inglesias looks abit like Mortimer but he is too Mong

3) North Indians don't have that strong Negrito/Weddoid, so they don't look triracial

4) nope Latinos don't look like Gulfs or North Africans who can be slight Negroid


Amerindians look nothing like East Asians lol, you have never been or seen one it seems

tell me why does this southern mexican of pred amerindian origin pass very well as an Indian?
http://i.imgur.com/XWKvacT.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

why does this southern mexican with pred amerndian origins look South Asian
in fact if southern mexicans immigrated to India, they would become the next Bollywood super stars
http://i.imgur.com/qej6eoI.jpg

[skain]

Ameríndians are paleo mongoloid. They are more similar to southeasth asians and especially Taiwanese Aborigines.

[Carlito's Way]

why does this brown mexican from Sonora look Pakistani/Gyspsy? to me shes very non-white, to you guys she would be a caucasoid pure indo-aryan woman LOL
http://i.imgur.com/b4yKnaM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dvrM8d2.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

Southern Mexican who is clearly pred amerindian, she would be a pure Caucasoid, she can fit in northern india LOL
http://i.imgur.com/KKu6Pu7.jpg

[skain]

why does this brown mexican from Sonora look Pakistani/Gyspsy? to me shes very non-white, to you guys she would be a caucasoid pure indo-aryan woman LOL
http://i.imgur.com/b4yKnaM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dvrM8d2.jpg

Very Aryan for Curry standards

[Carlito's Way]

southern mexicans who look south asian

looks Pakistani, would be classified as pure caucasoid
http://i.imgur.com/nyJoor2.jpg


second guy to the left would be a pure caucasoid if he were indian LOL
http://i.imgur.com/6tBYJnw.jpg



looks very Indian
http://i.imgur.com/kLF8ncU.jpg



this one looks Pakistani
http://i.imgur.com/qEQgBc1.jpg


this dark as pred amerindian mexican look very Indian
http://i.imgur.com/e9ZwJI9.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

Very Aryan for Curry standards

yes, their definition of caucasoid/aryan is very different from Latin American nations

[Latinus]

I have family members in USA and they get mistaken for latinos a lot, so I guess there can be similarities.

can this Pakistani cricketer pass as latino?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/assets/uploads/updates/2017-06-06/l_208958_084535_updates.gif

Looks very common here in Brazil. In fact, if a saw this guy on the streets and wasn't aware of his origins, I would assume him to be a regular Brazilian pardo.

[Carlito's Way]

Looks very common here in Brazil. In fact, if a saw this guy on the streets and wasn't aware of his origins, I would assume him to be a regular Brazilian pardo.

Vigilance thinks the whiter ones who look almost Iberian are the ones who can pass for Indian LMAO smh hes very delusional

[ButlerKing]

Fuck you talking about?

1) Amerinds look like Chinese, too Mong to resemble Indians

2) Gabriel Inglesias looks abit like Mortimer but he is too Mong

3) North Indians don't have that strong Negrito/Weddoid, so they don't look triracial

4) nope Latinos don't look like Gulfs or North Africans who can be slight Negroid


Amerinds don't look Chinese. One could confuse them for being a mixture of Mongoloid and Indian, I've seen Chindians with these looks before.

Brazilian Indians

http://www.statemaster.com/wikimir/images/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ce/Brazilian-Indians.jpg/300px-Brazilian-Indians.jpg
https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/native-brazilian-woman-indigenous-tribe-260nw-319495373.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C8AXWR/bacaja-village-amazon-brazil-group-of-children-shaved-head-watching-C8AXWR.jpg


Chinese
https://cdn3.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/980x551/public/images/methode/2016/10/17/88b93a34-941e-11e6-89e7-0e47003bc2df_1280x720.JPG?itok=EJEnOwbz

[ButlerKing]

why does this brown mexican from Sonora look Pakistani/Gyspsy? to me shes very non-white, to you guys she would be a caucasoid pure indo-aryan woman LOL
http://i.imgur.com/b4yKnaM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dvrM8d2.jpg

Yes.... I've noticed a number of pseudo-south Asian look from latin americans..... it's hard to explain.

[Carlito's Way]

Yes.... I've noticed a number of pseudo-south Asian look from latin americans..... it's hard to explain.

in the state of Veracruz where my family is from, I see many pseudo South Asian phenotypes, they are not rare at all but common but not super common though
also when I was in Brazil, I also saw many South Asian pseudo phenotypes, I think its the combination of Caucasoid phenotype + black straight hair + large eyes + dark skin that makes such look

[skain]

Amerinds don't look Chinese. One could confuse them for being a mixture of Mongoloid and Indian, I've seen Chindians with these looks before.

Brazilian Indians

http://www.statemaster.com/wikimir/images/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ce/Brazilian-Indians.jpg/300px-Brazilian-Indians.jpg
https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/native-brazilian-woman-indigenous-tribe-260nw-319495373.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C8AXWR/bacaja-village-amazon-brazil-group-of-children-shaved-head-watching-C8AXWR.jpg


Chinese
https://cdn3.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/980x551/public/images/methode/2016/10/17/88b93a34-941e-11e6-89e7-0e47003bc2df_1280x720.JPG?itok=EJEnOwbz

Nope. Andids dont look chinese and indigenous from México too.

[Vigilance]

Southern Mexican who is clearly pred amerindian, she would be a pure Caucasoid, she can fit in northern india LOL
http://i.imgur.com/KKu6Pu7.jpg

She looks Bangladeshi

[Vigilance]

southern mexicans who look south asian

looks Pakistani, would be classified as pure caucasoid
http://i.imgur.com/nyJoor2.jpg


second guy to the left would be a pure caucasoid if he were indian LOL
http://i.imgur.com/6tBYJnw.jpg



looks very Indian
http://i.imgur.com/kLF8ncU.jpg



this one looks Pakistani
http://i.imgur.com/qEQgBc1.jpg


this dark as pred amerindian mexican look very Indian
http://i.imgur.com/e9ZwJI9.jpg

Indeed the third guy looks South Indian/Bengali and the second girl looks South Indian

[NSXD60]

I'm more concerned that they look like they want to reclaim America.

[Vigilance]

Very Aryan for Curry standards

*South Indian

[Vigilance]

Vigilance thinks the whiter ones who look almost Iberian are the ones who can pass for Indian LMAO smh hes very delusional

This woman is from my caste

How many Latinos look like her? I believe she has Mediterranid-Dinarid admixture

https://youtu.be/fp_qWsz4oDA

I saw on South American who looks like her

[Vigilance]

Yes.... I've noticed a number of pseudo-south Asian look from latin americans..... it's hard to explain.

Fucking Gracil Indids.

They have chubby faces.

She cannot pass for Sikh for example (coz theyre NordIndid)

[ChristianMed]

No, They have more of a native look to me.

[x54xx]

Would this Indian woman be perceived as Latino in the USA?

If she spoke Spanish to Latinos would they doubt her?

https://youtu.be/gDAfbNd3tdk

Not really. Whites are familiar with how Indians look in the USA.

[x54xx]

I can see the similarities between North Africans and Caribbean Latinos, but MENA and Latinos don't alike at all.

Agreed. But neither do South Asians and Latinos.

[Congolese Rice]

I can see the similarities between North Africans and Caribbean Latinos, but MENA and Latinos don't alike at all.

Agreed lol, dont see why people even call me Latino because i aint, i am technically sorta a Caribbean Latino though with additional arab admix.

I dont really have the hispanic/iberian traits though to look your average Latino, as many latinos have pointed out so yeah

[x54xx]

Agreed lol, dont see why people even call me Latino because i aint, i am technically sorta a Caribbean Latino though with additional arab admix.

I dont really have the hispanic/iberian traits though to look your average Latino, as many latinos have pointed out so yeah

Carribean Latinos are non existent on the west coast, relatively speaking.

[Carlito's Way]

This woman is from my caste

How many Latinos look like her? I believe she has Mediterranid-Dinarid admixture

https://youtu.be/fp_qWsz4oDA

I saw on South American who looks like her

there are many southern mexicans who look like her, nothing special, you need to really travel

[Maguzanci]

Yes Mexicans overlap much more with Indians than Mexicans overlap with Flips.

[Newsboy]

Yes Mexicans overlap much more with Indians than Mexicans overlap with Flips.

Absolutely. Yet many people think Mexicans and Filipinos look similar :confused:. I personally don't see it much. Maybe some of the heavily indigenous Mexicans can pass as Filipinos but that's it.

I disagree with x54xx (Fractal's banned sock?) that White Americans are 'familiar' with how Indians look in the US. To the average White American, anyone from Mexico to Morocco to Bangladesh looks the same. Many if not most Americans cannot even locate India, Middle Eastern countries, or Morocco on a map.

[Thambi]

Yes Mexicans overlap much more with Indians than Mexicans overlap with Flips.

i disagree. Although overlap between filipinos and latinos is relatively low, the overlap with indians is even lower. some north indians might look like latinos but most do not.

[Chaos One]

i disagree. Although overlap between filipinos and latinos is relatively low, the overlap with indians is even lower. some north indians might look like latinos but most do not.

If there's any group Latinos would overlap more are Central Asians or even North Asians, but still low even with them. Once on a time I'm walking on a street here in Chile and see someone who could pass as a Uzbek or Turkmen, but they are exceptions.

[Borealis]

Absolutely. Yet many people think Mexicans and Filipinos look similar :confused:. I personally don't see it much. Maybe some of the heavily indigenous Mexicans can pass as Filipinos but that's it.

I disagree with x54xx (Fractal's banned sock?) that White Americans are 'familiar' with how Indians look in the US. To the average White American, anyone from Mexico to Morocco to Bangladesh looks the same. Many if not most Americans cannot even locate India, Middle Eastern countries, or Morocco on a map.

True. White(and black) people in America are not really sure what Indians are supposed to look like outside the stereotypical look like Aziz Ansari or Dinesh D'souza which tend towards being South Indians. Even then, there are lots of people in many parts of the country like the South who would struggle even to place them in South Asia.

[Borealis]

To answer OP's question, I would say there is some overlap between Latin Americans and Indians. In fact in many cases it's hard to tell unless you look at the eyes-even then some south Asians have Mongoloid shifted eyes. There's more overlap between the two than there is between Indians and West Asians, which is ironic because in my country Indians are much more likely to be mistaken for the latter.

[arkas]

some do, but overall not so much. The only indians that sort of resemble latinos are northwest indians such as punjabis and kashmiris. Thats because of the light brown skin tone and some mutual features. some upper caste gujaratis, central and south indians can look latino as well I suppose.

I think the Himalayan Indians and North East Indians look more pseudo Mexican. Himalayans have Tibetid influence and the North East Indians have East Veddid influence which can mimic a mestizo look when mixed with Indid influence.

[Borealis]

I think the Himalayan Indians and North East Indians look more pseudo Mexican. Himalayans have Tibetid influence and the North East Indians have East Veddid influence which can mimic a mestizo look when mixed with Indid influence.

Is East veddid the same as Austro-Asiatic?

[Newsboy]

True. White(and black) people in America are not really sure what Indians are supposed to look like outside the stereotypical look like Aziz Ansari or Dinesh D'souza which tend towards being South Indians. Even then, there are lots of people in many parts of the country like the South who would struggle even to place them in South Asia.

I know my response is off-topic but yeah blacks are also rather unfamiliar with Indian phenotypes. It's probably an American thing. In the post-9/11 era pretty much every brown person will be mistaken as Arab or Iranian with the possible exception of really dark types like Tamils. There was even a shooting in Kansas last year where a man shot 2 Indian men because he thought they were Iranian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe%2C_Kansas_shooting

And of course, this is not the first time where innocent people died in America due to racism or mistaken identity.

[arkas]

Is East veddid the same as Austro-Asiatic?

No, but it looks very similar when mixed with Tibetid. I think there are some Austro Asiatic groups in South Asia though.

[Zuh]

What do Mexicans suppose to look like anyway? I have mexican relatives who look like pure Europeans, mixed and mulattos and some Arabs.

[Óttar]

Some Indio Mexicans look like Asian Indians, yes. I was out at a club once, and I saw a woman who looked Indian and I thought, 'Ain't no Indian ladies walking up in the club everyday, it's now or never.' so I approached this woman, talked to her, and then we started making out. Turned out she was Mexican. xD

I've been to India twice. The second time was for one year, so I know what I'm talking about.

[Chaos One]

What do Mexicans suppose to look like anyway? I have mexican relatives who look like pure Europeans, mixed and mulattos and some Arabs.

Anything. Like Brazilians.

When people talk Mexican, they think Harnizos/Mestizos. When people think Brazilians, it's Pardo/Triracial. While I don't agree, I understand.

[Borealis]

I know my response is off-topic but yeah blacks are also rather unfamiliar with Indian phenotypes. It's probably an American thing. In the post-9/11 era pretty much every brown person will be mistaken as Arab or Iranian with the possible exception of really dark types like Tamils. There was even a shooting in Kansas last year where a man shot 2 Indian men because he thought they were Iranian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe%2C_Kansas_shooting

And of course, this is not the first time where innocent people died in America due to racism or mistaken identity.

No you're fine bro. Say what you gotta.

Actually, even very dark Tamil types are mistaken for Middle Easterns on occasion. I've seen it. It's especially likely to happen outside big cities. In places like Cali or New York much less so. It's definitely an American thing-it's partly due to the fact that overall there aren't many "brown" people in the nation outside metro areas and secondly the unique culture of America which is very inward focused and xenophobic.

For me personally, I don't expect any Westerner to distinguish between Pakistanis and Indians or north Indians and South Indians but it shouldn't be too hard to tell a West Asian from a South Asian, at least a good majority of the time.

[Chaos One]

For me personally, I don't expect any Westerner to distinguish between Pakistanis and Indians or north Indians and South Indians but it shouldn't be too hard to tell a West Asian from a South Asian, at least a good majority of the time.

That's why some people here claim they could pass "here or there" IMO. Things on reality are far away from taxonomy analysis made on TA. Ignorance is a bless.

[Zuh]

Anything. Like Brazilians.

When people talk Mexican, they think Harnizos/Mestizos. When people think Brazilians, it's Pardo/Triracial. While I don't agree, I understand.

I would t say people associate harnizo with typical Mexican many people assumed that average Mexican to be Indo-mestizo which is wrong Mexico doesn't have a homogeneous population you can drive away to another town or state and see whites triracials castizos indios etc.

I have always pictured Brazil to be diverse as fuck gringos are just ignorant about Latin America.

[StonyArabia]

No Mexicans often have smaller eyes

[Zuh]

No Mexicans often have smaller eyes

We are new world people we come of all pseudo phenotypes sizes and color. Indians are a homogeneous population with extremely dark skin.

Not a same comparison not even close

[Borealis]

We are new world people we come of all pseudo phenotypes sizes and color. Indians are a homogeneous population with extremely dark skin.

Not a same comparison not even close

Rofl, Indians are incredibly diverse both in looks and genotype. They too are a mix of divergent people but it's an ancient mix rather than a recent one.

[Zuh]

Rofl, Indians are incredibly diverse both in looks and genotype. They too are a mix of divergent people but it's an ancient mix rather than a recent one.

Comparing Indians to Mexicans is like comparing apples and Bananas we over lap with other Latin Americans .

Indians not much we are Southern europeans +Amerindian minor black . Indians are I guess ancient Middle eastern mixed with Australoid.

[Newsboy]

No you're fine bro. Say what you gotta.

Actually, even very dark Tamil types are mistaken for Middle Easterns on occasion. I've seen it. It's especially likely to happen outside big cities. In places like Cali or New York much less so. It's definitely an American thing-it's partly due to the fact that overall there aren't many "brown" people in the nation outside metro areas and secondly the unique culture of America which is very inward focused and xenophobic.

For me personally, I don't expect any Westerner to distinguish between Pakistanis and Indians or north Indians and South Indians but it shouldn't be too hard to tell a West Asian from a South Asian, at least a good majority of the time.

Well I mentioned 'possible exception' because I have insufficient knowledge about what many white Americans may mistake Tamils (Sri Lankans or deep South Indians) for. Just thought that they could distinguish them from Middle Easterners on average as the differences are more apparent. Guess not. Personally, I have also heard about Tamils being mistaken for black. That is somewhat more reasonable IMO. At a distance you might think a Tamil is black but looking closely, definitely not.

Looks like I was right about the ignorance and xenophobia being an American thing (Canada, Australia, and the UK may not be terribly different though). I also don't expect any Westerner to distinguish between South Asians but yeah it shouldn't be too hard to tell a West Asian from a South Asian most of the time. Unless you're talking fringe groups like Eastern to Southern Iranians or certain Gulf Arabs.

[Maguzanci]

Absolutely. Yet many people think Mexicans and Filipinos look similar :confused:. I personally don't see it much. Maybe some of the heavily indigenous Mexicans can pass as Filipinos but that's it.

I disagree with x54xx (Fractal's banned sock?) that White Americans are 'familiar' with how Indians look in the US. To the average White American, anyone from Mexico to Morocco to Bangladesh looks the same. Many if not most Americans cannot even locate India, Middle Eastern countries, or Morocco on a map.

Agree. I don't understand this big hype and weird obsession as well that many ppl love to think that Mexicans and Filos/Flips look alike. There's even this deluded Filo user on Anthroscape (another forum) who thinks 25-40% of Mexicans can pass as locals in the Phils but at the same time, maybe 5-10% of Filos can pass in Mexico according to him. The reason for his logic is that because these 25-40% of Mexicans can pass as the 5-10% of Filos in the Phils. :picard1::picard2::rotfl:::dumbass:

[Zelda249]

True. White(and black) people in America are not really sure what Indians are supposed to look like outside the stereotypical look like Aziz Ansari or Dinesh D'souza which tend towards being South Indians. Even then, there are lots of people in many parts of the country like the South who would struggle even to place them in South Asia.

lol.

I think Whites can easily tell the difference between the 3 groups (Mexicans, Indians, Middle Easterners), especially in California.

[Borealis]

lol.

I think Whites can easily tell the difference between the 3 groups (Mexicans, Indians, Middle Easterners), especially in California.

Wow, I guess all those times people thought I was "Arabic" they were just kidding right??

[Latinus]

I would t say people associate harnizo with typical Mexican many people assumed that average Mexican to be Indo-mestizo which is wrong Mexico doesn't have a homogeneous population you can drive away to another town or state and see whites triracials castizos indios etc.

I have always pictured Brazil to be diverse as fuck gringos are just ignorant about Latin America.

Yes, many people assume Mexicans to be Indo-Mestizos. I was having a discussion with my stepfather one day about Mexico and I mentioned Mexican Soap Operas and actors and he was surprised that Mexico has white people. Yes, brazil is very diverse. You can find many Portuguese looking people like the below in the working class.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/84/f7/e984f7d52f9a3e1271e47aadcd88b7e5.jpg

[Zuh]

Yes, many people assume Mexicans to be Indo-Mestizos. I was having a discussion with my stepfather one day about Mexico and I mentioned Mexican Soap Operas and actors and he was surprised that Mexico has white people. Yes, brazil is very diverse. You can find many Portuguese looking people like the below in the working class.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/84/f7/e984f7d52f9a3e1271e47aadcd88b7e5.jpg

Med phenos are not really considered white in Mexico unless you have extreme pale skin.

Because Mexico is close to U.S so people assumed all Europeans look like white Americans.

[Papastratosels26]

No they don't

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[Newsboy]

Agree. I don't understand this big hype and weird obsession as well that many ppl love to think that Mexicans and Filos/Flips look alike. There's even this deluded Filo user on Anthroscape (another forum) who thinks 25-40% of Mexicans can pass as locals in the Phils but at the same time, maybe 5-10% of Filos can pass in Mexico according to him. The reason for his logic is that because these 25-40% of Mexicans can pass as the 5-10% of Filos in the Phils. :picard1::picard2::rotfl:::dumbass:

Maybe some Filipinos feel a kinship with Mexicans for some reason. Both are Catholic and there are some cultural similarities I'm sure but as a whole they're very different people. Mexicans generally take Filipinos as 'chinos' lumping them with East Asians and Vietnamese from my experience. Perhaps more Mexicans pass in the Philippines than Filipinos pass in Mexico but both percentages are too high yeah.


lol.

I think Whites can easily tell the difference between the 3 groups (Mexicans, Indians, Middle Easterners), especially in California.

No, many White Americans think Arabs, Iranians, Indians, and Mexicans are all the same (looks-wise). Even in California, trust me.

[Unome]

Most Mexicans and Amerindians are mixed with Spanish from when the Spaniards conquered Latin America.

[RMuller]

What do Mexicans suppose to look like anyway? I have mexican relatives who look like pure Europeans, mixed and mulattos and some Arabs.

Mulatos? Very few Mexicans have relatives that look mulato.

[Thambi]

Most Mexicans and Amerindians are mixed with Spanish from when the Spaniards conquered Latin America.

yeah most mexicans are of such mixture but there are a few pure amerindian majority countries in south america like Peru and Bolivia. And several countries in central america have significant amerindian population as well.

[Borealis]

Very Aryan for Curry standards

HOLY SHIT. MOST INDIAN LOOKING MEXICAN IVE EVER SEEN.

[Zuh]

No.

Mexicans from Mexico.

https://cdn.oem.com.mx/elesto/nota-color-mexico-holanda.jpg

https://www.diez.bo/__export/1528057745017/sites/eldeber/img/2018/06/03/hinchasdemexico-diez.jpg_1995527733.jpg

http://www.visogler.com/media/2014/06/5-Adidas-Festejo-team-mexico-soccer-freddy-fabris.jpg


Illegal Mexicans in that U.S
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTo4gcDE6VtRxDpqsYirS2h1hb4Tx3 ifEvRSz2jcDO06cAJ-KzN

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRqHbhT0It5rtg4b2Sf2Hk5oOTGZUA Sw_WCSUvaPToBHBIkQNBZ

[ag77]

Indians resemble Australian aborigines more than Mexicans

[TheMaestro]

Not as a whole, but some might look pretty same.
For example football player Carlos Vela, who I would mistake for Indian.
What we can all agree on, both have some incredibly hot women.

[Valedictorian]

Some of them can have a pseudo-South Asian look. Not sure why exactly; for instance Michael Pena. I definitely could see him as a street fruit vendor somewhere in India.

[Thambi]

superficially several mexicans and indians look alike due to brown skin but once you observe the features they look extremely different

[GreentheViper]

Skin-wise I suppose you could make a case. But, any Mexican who has extremely brown skin usually have Amerindian features.

[Joso]

no

[Thambi]

why does this brown mexican from Sonora look Pakistani/Gyspsy? to me shes very non-white, to you guys she would be a caucasoid pure indo-aryan woman LOL
http://i.imgur.com/b4yKnaM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dvrM8d2.jpg

this girl can pass in south india too. I've seen some telugu girls that look like her. she's really pretty btw wow. never seen a mexican looking this desi before.

[Bogdan]

Mexicans look Amerindian and European.

[Borealis]

Some of them can have a pseudo-South Asian look. Not sure why exactly; for instance Michael Pena. I definitely could see him as a street fruit vendor somewhere in India.

No way, that guy looks nothing like an Indian. If anything it's more common the other way around i.e. some Indians approach the Mestizo look.

[Newsboy]

Sometimes Indians and Mexicans do look alike. Apart from the already posted examples, Bengali singer Shaan could easily be Mexican. He even has a resemblance with George Lopez!

http://www.theshillongtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Shaan.jpg

https://starsunfolded.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Shaan.jpg

https://images.gulfnews.com/polopoly-images/2017/8/5/1.2069280_83975883.jpg

[Gangrel]

Sometimes Indians and Mexicans do look alike. Apart from the already posted examples, Bengali singer Shaan could easily be Mexican. He even has a resemblance with George Lopez!

http://www.theshillongtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Shaan.jpg

https://starsunfolded.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Shaan.jpg

https://images.gulfnews.com/polopoly-images/2017/8/5/1.2069280_83975883.jpg

Bengalis have strong Mongoloid admixture and features, so it makes sense for some to look that way.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Bengalis have strong Mongoloid admixture and features, so it makes sense for some to look that way.

Yea besides the ones with mongaloid admixture South Asians are a pretty ditisnct looking people , I can never confuse them for Hispanic

[Borealis]

Yea besides the ones with mongaloid admixture South Asians are a pretty ditisnct looking people , I can never confuse them for Hispanic

In that case, will you classify me and tell me if I pass as hispanic?

[Kriptc06]

some of them can look superficially indian, but the vast majority does not. Indians and Mexicans (mestizos) have their own unique look.

[Eamr]

There are pseudo-phenotypes in Latin America, so some do.

[Oghuz]

No Mexicans are more euro shifted while even high caste Indians in majority will pass in neighboring Iranian plateau.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Well, I suppose that there is some overlap, the admixture in India is more variable imo, they are more strongly biracial with the people of south India (dravidians) and aryans, in general in a group of Indians and Mexicans I can differentiate them really easy, but there are some cases, I think southern Mexico has more people who can overlap with Indians, the north west part of India is more influenced by aryans and I can see some pseudo resemblance to Mexicans mestizos and in cases castizos, but they still show a big of different facial features because that is the difference about the influence of Iran in India and from Spain in Mexico, Iranians and Spaniards are different, also in Latino countries like Argentina and Uruguay the Italian side is really strong, Germans in Brazil and Argentina, also British in some part of Chile for example, french in west mexico, so there was a bit more variance with the Caucasian side in Latino countries, they were not just Iberians.
Also the Mexican skin has red shades even the natives, meanwhile the Indian is more dark shades, that is because of the influence of dravidians.
To the guy Vigilance, I don’t think you know Mexicans or Latinos, I can show you girls that you will never find in India that are from our Latino countries, many Latinos are euros born in America. The only Latino country more influenced by Native Americans is Bolivia, the rest are mostly euro influenced. And natives are not East Asians like Chineses, you are wrong. They are more Paleo Euro Asians, they were a mixed group even in the south it is probable that Polynesians came to America also and mixed because of the haplogroups. The idea that a native looks like a monk is not that accurate at all.

[Quiro_Brianza]

No Mexicans are more euro shifted while even high caste Indians in majority will pass in neighboring Iranian plateau.

Agree, also the black influence in Latino countries was more of west Africa (Senegal, Mali, etc). Meanwhile in India dravidians are more similar to East Africans, people of Madagascar look very similar to dravidians.

[El_Abominacion]

Occasionally there’s a fairly ambiguous Mestizo/Indian that could pass interchangeably but usually they can be told apart fairly easily

[Quiro_Brianza]

Occasionally there’s a fairly ambiguous Mestizo/Indian that could pass interchangeably but usually they can be told apart fairly easily

I agree, also native Americans depends on the tribe some look like some Bangladeshi and the part above of Bangladesh that belongs to India, the people from there.