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cyberlorian
05-31-2018, 10:14 AM
Where does the Europid component of Aralid and Turanid caome from? Robust Iranid or Gracile Iranid? Or any other type?

Pahli
05-31-2018, 10:18 AM
Where does the Europid component of Turanid and Aralid caome from? Robust Iranid or Gracile Iranid? Or any other type?

Early Europid influence in Aralid / Turanid is from Steppe people. Turanid can fit among many phenotypes tho, but many Central Asians tend to be Pamirid or Irano-Turanids because of the assimilation of the local Iranic population.

cyberlorian
05-31-2018, 10:37 AM
Early Europid influence in Aralid / Turanid is from Steppe people. Turanid can fit among many phenotypes tho, but many Central Asians tend to be Pamirid or Irano-Turanids because of the assimilation of the local Iranic population.

Isn't the most common phenotype among early Steppe people Iranid?

Shaco
05-31-2018, 02:13 PM
Isn't the most common phenotype among early Steppe people Iranid?
No, Iranian steppe people had a pontid - north pontid phenotypes. Pontid is sometimes classified as a northern Iranian phenotype.
Iranid is an off-shoot of pontid, they can look extremely similar depending on foreign admixture. Both are narrow headed and high headed. Scythians, sarmatians to the west of the Caspian sea were pure Iranians and were mostly composed of pontids and east Mediterranean.

Pontid itself is derived from a mixture of corded. Proto Iranians were related to the corded people of north eastern Europe.

Pahli
05-31-2018, 03:30 PM
No, Iranian steppe people had a pontid - north pontid phenotypes. Pontid is sometimes classified as a northern Iranian phenotype.
Iranid is an off-shoot of pontid, they can look extremely similar depending on foreign admixture. Both are narrow headed and high headed. Scythians, sarmatians to the west of the Caspian sea were pure Iranians and were mostly composed of pontids and east Mediterranean.

Pontid itself is derived from a mixture of corded. Proto Iranians were related to the corded people of north eastern Europe.

I think the Iranian Steppe people probably also had some Baltid admixed phenotypes, not all of them were long headed meds / pontids