Northwest Russian GEDmatch

[Leto]

She's an old woman from a rural area of the Nevelsky district, Pskov oblast (bordering Belarus). Quite isolated and different from the 'mainstream' Russians
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Location_of_Nevelsky_District_%28Pskov_Oblast%29.s vg/346px-Location_of_Nevelsky_District_%28Pskov_Oblast%29.s vg.png

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 50.74
2 North_Atlantic 29.65
3 West_Med 7.13
4 West_Asian 3.6
5 South_Asian 3.08
6 East_Med 2.66
7 Siberian 2.14
8 Amerindian 0.99

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belorussian 3.59
2 Estonian_Polish 3.7
3 Lithuanian 3.83
4 Estonian 4.33
5 Russian_Smolensk 4.44
6 Southwest_Russian 6.52
7 Polish 6.58
8 Kargopol_Russian 6.95
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.25
10 Finnish 7.77
11 East_Finnish 7.93
12 Ukrainian 8.87
13 South_Polish 9.75
14 Erzya 9.79
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.32
16 Southwest_Finnish 10.81
17 Croatian 16.55
18 La_Brana-1 17.25
19 North_Swedish 18.4
20 Hungarian 19.35

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.9% Estonian_Polish + 44.1% Estonian @ 2.31
2 87% Lithuanian + 13% Hungarian @ 2.54
3 50.9% Estonian + 49.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.54
4 58.3% Belorussian + 41.7% Estonian @ 2.59
5 91.2% Lithuanian + 8.8% West_German @ 2.59
6 91.4% Lithuanian + 8.6% South_Dutch @ 2.6
7 78.9% Lithuanian + 21.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.61
8 87.4% Lithuanian + 12.6% East_German @ 2.63
9 92.5% Lithuanian + 7.5% French @ 2.63
10 77.2% Lithuanian + 22.8% South_Polish @ 2.63
11 66.3% Estonian + 33.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.64
12 63.4% Estonian + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.65
13 88.7% Lithuanian + 11.3% Austrian @ 2.65
14 53.4% Belorussian + 46.6% Lithuanian @ 2.67
15 51.7% Estonian_Polish + 48.3% Lithuanian @ 2.67
16 94% Lithuanian + 6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.68
17 93.7% Lithuanian + 6.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.69
18 94% Lithuanian + 6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.69
19 93.8% Lithuanian + 6.2% Portuguese @ 2.73
20 94.3% Lithuanian + 5.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.73


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.88
2 Eastern_Euro 20.95
3 Atlantic 20.3
4 North_Sea 17.01
5 South_Asian 2.64
6 West_Med 2.35
7 West_Asian 1.37
8 Siberian 0.88
9 Amerindian 0.61

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belorussian 4.62
2 Estonian_Polish 4.7
3 Lithuanian 5.64
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.73
5 Southwest_Russian 7.26
6 Polish 7.96
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.04
8 Estonian 9.54
9 South_Polish 10.04
10 Ukrainian 11.08
11 Kargopol_Russian 11.46
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.74
13 Erzya 13.38
14 East_Finnish 15.13
15 Croatian 15.18
16 Finnish 16.04
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.43
18 La_Brana-1 16.56
19 Moldavian 18.06
20 Hungarian 18.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.9% Estonian_Polish + 34.1% Lithuanian @ 4.3
2 92% Lithuanian + 8% French_Basque @ 4.32
3 51% Lithuanian + 49% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.45
4 98.5% Belorussian + 1.5% Chamar @ 4.45
5 98.5% Belorussian + 1.5% North_Kannadi @ 4.47
6 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Sakilli @ 4.47
7 98.5% Belorussian + 1.5% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.48
8 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Piramalai @ 4.48
9 98.5% Belorussian + 1.5% Chenchu @ 4.49
10 98.5% Belorussian + 1.5% Kanjar @ 4.49
11 75.8% Belorussian + 24.2% Lithuanian @ 4.49
12 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Kol @ 4.5
13 98.5% Belorussian + 1.5% Dharkar @ 4.5
14 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Dusadh @ 4.5
15 98.7% Belorussian + 1.3% Kurumba @ 4.51
16 98.7% Belorussian + 1.3% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.51
17 98.7% Belorussian + 1.3% Velamas @ 4.52
18 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Bangladeshi @ 4.54
19 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Kshatriya @ 4.54
20 98.6% Belorussian + 1.4% Brahmin_UP @ 4.54


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 62.28
2 Atlantic_Med 21
3 Caucasus 8.64
4 Gedrosia 4.39
5 Siberian 2.87
6 South_Asian 0.83

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish (Dodecad) 6.03
2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 7.37
3 Russian (Dodecad) 8.5
4 Belorussian (Behar) 9.55
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 9.67
6 Russian (HGDP) 10.44
7 Russian_B (Behar) 10.57
8 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 10.66
9 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 13.53
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.43
11 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 15.02
12 Hungarians (Behar) 15.88
13 Lithuanians (Behar) 16.13
14 Finnish (Dodecad) 16.64
15 German (Dodecad) 17.69
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 17.84
17 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.8
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24.28
19 Chuvashs (Behar) 24.74
20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 26.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 31.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.65
2 76.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.69
3 76.7% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.73
4 76.9% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.77
5 76.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.83
6 63% Russian_B (Behar) + 37% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.83
7 57.9% Russian_B (Behar) + 42.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.87
8 63.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 36.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.92
9 76.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.97
10 77.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 22.4% British (Dodecad) @ 1.99
11 78% Russian (Dodecad) + 22% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
12 76.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.8% English (Dodecad) @ 2.11
13 76% Russian (Dodecad) + 24% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.11
14 76.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.24
15 74.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.37
16 57.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 42.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.44
17 72% Russian_B (Behar) + 28% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.57
18 72.7% Russian_B (Behar) + 27.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.66
19 75% Russian (Dodecad) + 25% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.7
20 72.4% Russian_B (Behar) + 27.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.71


MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 34.9
2 Steppe 22.54
3 Neolithic 19.79
4 Caucasian 19.57
5 Arctic 1.87
6 Siberian 0.77
7 Amerindian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian (Belarus) 3.39
2 Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) 3.7
3 Russians-West (WestRussian) 4
4 Pole (Poland) 4.07
5 Cossack (Kuban) 4.31
6 Lithuanian (Lithuania) 4.41
7 Russian (Tver) 4.53
8 Russian (CentralRussia) 4.91
9 Ukrainians_east (EastUkraine) 5.14
10 Estonian (Estonia) 5.39
11 Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) 5.4
12 Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) 5.44
13 Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) 5.49
14 Latvian (Latvia) 5.6
15 Russian (SouthRussia) 5.82
16 Belarusian_East (EastBelarus) 5.86
17 Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) 5.98
18 Pole (WestPoland) 5.99
19 Ingrians (Ingermanland) 6.04
20 Belarusian_West (WestBelarus) 6.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 23.3% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.21
2 65.2% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 34.8% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 2.21
3 57.4% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 42.6% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.22
4 77.1% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 22.9% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.3
5 63% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 37% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 2.3
6 65.7% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 34.3% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.36
7 74.5% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 25.5% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.37
8 73.7% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 26.3% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.37
9 75.9% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 24.1% German (Germany) @ 2.55
10 90% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 10% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.55
11 91.8% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 8.2% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.57
12 90.2% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 9.8% Adygei (Adygea) @ 2.59
13 70.4% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 29.6% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) @ 2.6
14 90.1% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 9.9% Balkar (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 2.6
15 80.6% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 19.4% English (Cornwall) @ 2.61
16 65.7% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 34.3% Hungarian (WestUkraine) @ 2.62
17 70.1% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 29.9% Irish (Munster) @ 2.66
18 61.7% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 38.3% Slovak (Slovakia) @ 2.67
19 69.5% Belarusian (Belarus) + 30.5% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 2.68
20 72% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 28% Irish (Connacht) @ 2.7


MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 56.32
2 Caucasian 26.62
3 European_Early_Farmers 6.86
4 Ancestral_Altaic 2.52
5 South_Indian 2.27
6 South_Central_Asian 1.41
7 North_African 1.07
8 Paleo_Siberian 1.01
9 East_Siberian 0.85
10 Amerindian 0.55
11 Arctic 0.4
12 Tungus-Altaic 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian-West ( ) 2.75
2 Russian-North-West ( ) 2.96
3 Russian_North ( ) 3.49
4 Russian_South ( ) 3.52
5 Balt ( ) 3.69
6 Belarusian_South ( ) 3.82
7 Belarusian-East ( ) 3.91
8 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 4.13
9 Belarusian_West ( ) 4.73
10 Lithuanian ( ) 4.78
11 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 4.89
12 Russian_Center ( ) 5.08
13 Latvian ( ) 5.1
14 Don_cossack ( ) 5.16
15 Ukrainian ( ) 5.27
16 Moksha ( ) 5.27
17 Belarusian ( ) 5.48
18 Sorb ( ) 5.63
19 Mordovian ( ) 5.82
20 Ukrainian_East ( ) 5.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.3% Estonian ( ) + 21.7% Romanian ( ) @ 1.65
2 72.4% Russian-North-West ( ) + 27.6% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 1.74
3 72.3% Russian-North-West ( ) + 27.7% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 1.74
4 59.3% Russian-North-West ( ) + 40.7% Belarusian_South ( ) @ 1.89
5 67.5% Russian-North-West ( ) + 32.5% Russian_Center ( ) @ 1.91
6 76.5% Russian-North-West ( ) + 23.5% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 1.95
7 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% Pulliyar ( ) @ 1.95
8 81.4% Latvian ( ) + 18.6% Romanian ( ) @ 1.96
9 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% Paniya ( ) @ 1.97
10 69.8% Russian-North-West ( ) + 30.2% Belarusian ( ) @ 1.98
11 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% Malayan ( ) @ 2.01
12 98% Russian-West ( ) + 2% Santhal ( ) @ 2.03
13 98% Russian-West ( ) + 2% Bhunjia ( ) @ 2.04
14 98% Russian-West ( ) + 2% Dhurwa ( ) @ 2.05
15 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% Hallaki ( ) @ 2.06
16 98% Russian-West ( ) + 2% Nihali ( ) @ 2.06
17 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% Madiga ( ) @ 2.07
18 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% Kurumba ( ) @ 2.08
19 98% Russian-West ( ) + 2% Kharia ( ) @ 2.08
20 98.1% Russian-West ( ) + 1.9% TN_Dalit ( ) @ 2.09


puntDNAL K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 69.32
2 Mediterranean 16.43
3 Caucasian 6.07
4 SW_Asian 2.91
5 Siberian 2.53
6 Beringian 1.46
7 S_Indian 1.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian 2.37
2 Russian 4.4
3 Lithuanian 4.44
4 Karelian 4.87
5 Finnish 4.97
6 Mordovian 5.02
7 Polish 8.17
8 Swedish 11.59
9 Norwegian 14.09
10 North_German 14.92
11 Slovenian 15.75
12 Austrian 16.27
13 Scottish 16.28
14 Orcadian 16.73
15 Hungarian 16.89
16 Irish 17.23
17 English 17.71
18 Croatian 18.84
19 Utahn_White 21.03
20 South_German 21.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.3% Russian + 49.7% Lithuanian @ 1.85
2 75.9% Belarusian + 24.1% Finnish @ 1.87
3 78.1% Belarusian + 21.9% Karelian @ 2.02
4 53.8% Lithuanian + 46.2% Mordovian @ 2.06
5 77.2% Belarusian + 22.8% Russian @ 2.08
6 80.7% Belarusian + 19.3% Mordovian @ 2.11
7 98.4% Belarusian + 1.6% Selkup @ 2.15
8 96% Belarusian + 4% Chuvash @ 2.16
9 99.2% Belarusian + 0.8% Nganassan @ 2.17
10 53% Lithuanian + 47% Karelian @ 2.19
11 99.2% Belarusian + 0.8% Dolgan @ 2.27
12 99.5% Belarusian + 0.5% East_Greenlander @ 2.29
13 99.2% Belarusian + 0.8% West_Greenlander @ 2.3
14 98.6% Belarusian + 1.4% Bashkir @ 2.32
15 88.5% Belarusian + 11.5% Lithuanian @ 2.32
16 93.7% Lithuanian + 6.3% Uzbek @ 2.34
17 99.5% Belarusian + 0.5% Koryak @ 2.34
18 99.6% Belarusian + 0.4% Uzbek @ 2.36
19 99.8% Belarusian + 0.2% Burusho @ 2.37
20 99.8% Belarusian + 0.2% UP_Brahmin @ 2.37

[Aren]

So northern. And only 2% Siberian. Do actual Belarussians also score 1-2% Siberian like her?

[Leto]

So northern. And only 2% Siberian. Do actual Belarussians also score 1-2% Siberian like her?
Yes, usually 1-3%. My dad is like 2-3% depending on the calculator and that includes the Amerindian which is some ANE-related stuff.

[Not a Cop]

She's an old woman from a rural area of the Nevelsky district, Pskov oblast (bordering Belarus). Quite isolated and different from the 'mainstream' Russians
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Location_of_Nevelsky_District_%28Pskov_Oblast%29.s vg/346px-Location_of_Nevelsky_District_%28Pskov_Oblast%29.s vg.png

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 50.74
2 North_Atlantic 29.65
3 West_Med 7.13
4 West_Asian 3.6
5 South_Asian 3.08
6 East_Med 2.66
7 Siberian 2.14
8 Amerindian 0.99



She's not that atypical, my grandma from syasstroy:
Baltic 50.64
2 North_Atlantic 30.17
3 West_Med 5.08
4 Siberian 5.01
5 West_Asian 3.98
6 South_Asian 1.97
7 East_Med 1.67
8 Sub-Saharan 0.66
9 Amerindian 0.55
10 East_Asian 0.27

[Sora]

Very atypical results for a Northwestern Russian

[Papastratosels26]

Very North.

[rein]

Interesting results. I guess they include a bit of Indian populations in some mixed population oracles due to her having ~3% South Asian.

[Leto]

She's not that atypical, my grandma from syasstroy:
Baltic 50.64
2 North_Atlantic 30.17
3 West_Med 5.08
4 Siberian 5.01
5 West_Asian 3.98
6 South_Asian 1.97
7 East_Med 1.67
8 Sub-Saharan 0.66
9 Amerindian 0.55
10 East_Asian 0.27
Yes, I remember her. 30% Finnish on FTDNA. Quite isolated too. Does she look Nordic? I wonder what Sergey Kozlov from GEDmatch would tell about her. He is a smart knowledgeable guy.

[Leto]

Very atypical results for a Northwestern Russian
As if you knew much about NW Russia, lol. No offense.

[Not a Cop]

Yes, I remember her. 30% Finnish on FTDNA. Quite isolated too. Does she look Nordic? I wonder what Sergey Kozlov from GEDmatch would tell about her. He is a smart knowledgeable guy.

Nah, she looks kinda Lappish, here is her and parents:

https://i.imgur.com/aNZQdb8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TgiTU1J.jpg

[Pahli]

Slavs in that area absorbed the local Baltic population / mixed with them, not so surprised about the results given they live on the borders with the Baltic states

[Leto]

Nah, she looks kinda Lappish, here is her and parents:

Interesting. Indeed Baltic-Finnic. Is that your half German grandfather, by the way?

[Not a Cop]

Interesting. Indeed Baltic-Finnic. Is that your half German grandfather, by the way?

No, that's parents of my grandmother, fully Russian.

[Not a Cop]

Srkz's quote on her btw :

Готово! Кроме обычных процедур, прогнал результаты через алгоритмы, которые использовал для статьи о генофонде северных русских и нанес получившееся на диаграмму как "Новгород (северо-восток)". Как отдельную выборку одиночный образец я использовать не могу, но общее представление он дает.
Ожидаемо вклад прибалтийских финнов оказался заметно выше, чем у выборки южных новгородцев, поэтому и на Admixture-карте более близкими получились не они, а русские HGDP и Устюжны. Поскольку для диаграммы за основу для "финского" синего компонента брались не финны Финляндии, а более близкие к нам вепсы и карелы, то и его доля получилась выше, чем по оценке FTDNA - 35-40%. Ну и на IBD-графике видно, что из современных финнов ближе всего к повлиявшим популяциям вепсы, что тоже логично, исходя из географии.
Чего-то в этом роде и ожидал, но отлично, что наконец появился геном человека, на 100% происходящего из региона. Думаю, что результат вполне типичен для местных русских.

[Leto]

Srkz's quote on her btw :

Готово! Кроме обычных процедур, прогнал результаты через алгоритмы, которые использовал для статьи о генофонде северных русских и нанес получившееся на диаграмму как "Новгород (северо-восток)". Как отдельную выборку одиночный образец я использовать не могу, но общее представление он дает.
Ожидаемо вклад прибалтийских финнов оказался заметно выше, чем у выборки южных новгородцев, поэтому и на Admixture-карте более близкими получились не они, а русские HGDP и Устюжны. Поскольку для диаграммы за основу для "финского" синего компонента брались не финны Финляндии, а более близкие к нам вепсы и карелы, то и его доля получилась выше, чем по оценке FTDNA - 35-40%. Ну и на IBD-графике видно, что из современных финнов ближе всего к повлиявшим популяциям вепсы, что тоже логично, исходя из географии.
Чего-то в этом роде и ожидал, но отлично, что наконец появился геном человека, на 100% происходящего из региона. Думаю, что результат вполне типичен для местных русских.
SK is an awesome guy, he said my dad was closest to Smolensk and Eastern Belarus (although Belarus is relatively homogeneous itself) and my mom was representative for Vyatka, Unzha and Vetluga, that kind of places. No Mordvin or Mari roots were detected.

[Harkonnen]

Yes, usually 1-3%. My dad is like 2-3% depending on the calculator and that includes the Amerindian which is some ANE-related stuff.

To be accurate, if we don't count the mongoloid admixture within EHG etc, the mongoloid admixture in Belarusians shown in admix calcs comes from Tatar and Mongol invasions

https://s22.postimg.cc/wihvu83v5/ibdbb.png

[Lisa]

To be accurate, if we don't count the mongoloid admixture within EHG etc, the mongoloid admixture in Belarusians shown in admix calcs comes from Tatar and Mongol invasions

https://s22.postimg.cc/wihvu83v5/ibdbb.png
Truth. Belarusian 100 years ago
http://s019.radikal.ru/i611/1612/fc/5ca354dc75c5.png (http://radikal.ru)
BTW . Ignashevich ethnic Belarusian
https://a.radikal.ru/a10/1806/60/196cc72f1730.jpg (https://radikal.ru)
https://d.radikal.ru/d12/1806/ac/3f367be066d4.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

[Profileid]

What's with the amerindian amount? Is it possible it's coming from the ANE?

[Bobby Martnen]

Even Northwest Russians are closer to other Slavs than they are to Northwest Europeans.