Classify mainland right wing Greek woman

[catgeorge]

https://olympiada.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/20120601-075550.jpg

https://emvolos.gr/petros/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Μανταλένα-Παπαδοπούλου-Mantalena.jpg

http://www.kontranews.gr/sites/default/files/field/image/an-708_43.jpg

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https://www.laosnews.gr/uploads/media/mantalena-papadopoulou.jpg

[kiko]

North Pontid

[Papastratosels26]

North Pontid.

[Sikeliot]

North Pontid

[Corded]

Nord-pontid

[MEDACHE]

predominately alpine

[dperucca]

N. Pontid

[The Blade]

Norid with Borreby admixture.

[Sikeliot]

She is an example of someone passing better in Poland than in Sicily.

[The Blade]

She is an example of someone passing better in Poland than in Sicily.
Yes, she is.

[Sikeliot]

Yes, she is.

She also looks similar to a girl I met in school who was from Thessaloniki.

[nafz]

She is an example of someone passing better in Poland than in Sicily.


Yes, she is.

I really disagree with your assessment. I classify her as alpine med and I think her med features are obvious. Here is another photo where these med traits are really evident. I think she passes best in Greece and other southern European countries. Poland would be a far fetched choice for me.

https://kourdistoportocali.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mantalena-8.jpg

[user_]

She could pass in Georgia 10/10

[Sikeliot]

I really disagree with your assessment. I classify her as alpine med and I think her med features are obvious. Here is another photo where these med traits are really evident. I think she passes best in Greece and other southern European countries. Poland would be a far fetched choice for me.

https://kourdistoportocali.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mantalena-8.jpg

I don't see much Med in her. And even if there, she's too Steppe for Sicily.

[nafz]

I don't see much Med in her. And even if there, she's too Steppe for Sicily.

By Steppe you mean what? R1a? Slavic?

[catgeorge]

She's Neolithic. Obviously.

[Sikeliot]

By Steppe you mean what? R1a? Slavic?

NE European DNA/"Indo European". She might have Med influence but she still would not look far south Italian.

[Tauromachos]

By Steppe you mean what? R1a? Slavic?

She doesn't look Slavic only in some pictures a bit.

But basicly you are right she looks more Med in the picture you posted.

She looks Greek not Sicilian so much though

[Columella]

One element is Alpine, the other med or Dinaric.

[Hulu]

I don't see much Med in her. And even if there, she's too Steppe for Sicily.

No steppe for her. She's probably very southern plotting. That's med

[Sikeliot]

No steppe for her. She's probably very southern plotting. That's med

No one would say this had her ethnicity not been revealed.

[DarknessWin]

Norid with Borreby admixture.

Finally someone see the nose ,
i am getting pissed here with stupid classifications

[DarknessWin]

I don't see much Med in her. And even if there, she's too Steppe for Sicily.

This eyes are 100% Med ,
She is Noric+Pontid

Look like many other Greeks and dont pass in Poland actually

Also Sicily have few Med types
most there have Caucasian and Orientalid types and THESE TYPES ARE NOT MED

[DarknessWin]

NE European DNA/"Indo European". She might have Med influence but she still would not look far south Italian.

Indoeuropeans were people from 10 different phenotypes with 5 different haplogroups.
Meds were part of Indoeuropeans, why you place them at North East????

[Sikeliot]

Indoeuropeans were people from 10 different phenotypes with 5 different haplogroups.
Meds were part of Indoeuropeans, why you place them at North East????

I thoguht Indo-Europeans were best proxied by Baltic people?

[kleenex]

What I'm not seeing the same photo as everyone else. She looks very Med to me. Wow. I'm astounded by these responses. I was going to say a combo of Dinaro Med and/or Alpine Med. Can someone interject here for me. Where is the North Pontid coming from?

[DarknessWin]

I thoguht Indo-Europeans were best proxied by Baltic people?

No way, actually majority of Indoeuropeans were very Doli skulled people.

I believe one wave of indoeuropeans to balkans were North Pontids and Pontids.
Other wave in west europe were AtlantoMeds and Atlantids

The nordics were natives and Baltids were natives too.
Blonde hair and blue eyes in indoeuropeans were Hitlers bullshit

[DarknessWin]

What I'm not seeing the same photo as everyone else. She looks very Med to me. Wow. I'm astounded by these responses. I was going to say a combo of Dinaro Med and/or Alpine Med. Can someone interject here for me. Where is the North Pontid coming from?

She is not north Pontid , north pontids are doli, lond face and straight nose people

This girl have short dinaricized nose and are brachy

I classify her Noric + Pontid and maybe she also have some alpine or borreby

[kleenex]

I'm starting to think people are just blurting out random classifications. The same people who have accurately classified Pontids are claiming Pontid (North?) for this person. It's amazing that someone can do a thread on Poles and pinpoint (with some accuracy) where they're from, how they're classified, etc. without a great deal of contention. Why with Greeks are classifications so contentious and absurd?

[catgeorge]

What I'm not seeing the same photo as everyone else. She looks very Med to me. Wow. I'm astounded by these responses. I was going to say a combo of Dinaro Med and/or Alpine Med. Can someone interject here for me. Where is the North Pontid coming from?

No idea - but had her for some quasi Ponticized Alpine Med if a such thing exists but North Pontd - what?

[KingOf]

definitely within Greek spectrum... nothing 'odd' about her.

[nightrider+]

definitely within Greek spectrum... nothing 'odd' about her.

And very typical I would add.

Itt people getting trolled by Sikeliot.

[MysteriousWays]

Skull shape does not match with North Pontid, as she seems rather mesocephalic to me, to perhaps slightly brachy (not really a profile photo, so it's a bit tricky to say). I agree with The Blade and DarknessWin on this one and disagree with others. I think Norid with slight Borreby influence. I think she is fairly atypical for both Poland and Sicily.

[Sikeliot]

And very typical I would add.

Itt people getting trolled by Sikeliot.

I'm not trolling. She doesn't look Mediterranean. She has a round face, light coloring, etc.

[Sikeliot]

I think she is fairly atypical for both Poland and Sicily.

Where would she fit better then?

[KingOf]

And very typical I would add.

Itt people getting trolled by Sikeliot.

can she pass as Polish in your opinion? (most likely as atypical)

[MysteriousWays]

Where would she fit better then?

Further west in Europe than Poland. Perhaps further north in Italy (not to say she couldn't pass in South Italy; It's hard for me to say she outright can't pass in Southern Italy, even if not typical), Switzerland, Austria, France maybe, maybe Germany.

[MysteriousWays]

can she pass as Polish in your opinion? (most likely as atypical)

As atypical, I think so, but she can pass in much of Europe.

[kleenex]

Where would she fit better then?

Ok where is Greece is this woman from?

[Papastratosels26]

Made a mistake,i agree with the others.

[Sikeliot]

Ok where is Greece is this woman from?

Thessaly?

[nightrider+]

I'm not trolling. She doesn't look Mediterranean. She has a round face, light coloring, etc.

Average Southern Euro pigmentation (other than eye color), not round faced, Mediterranean.


can she pass as Polish in your opinion? (most likely as atypical)

Maybe, I don't know but I doubt anyone would associate this look with Poland.

https://i.imgur.com/NhKjYEU.jpg

[kleenex]

https://emvolos.gr/petros/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%AD%CE%BD%C E%B1-%CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B4%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%C F%8D%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85-Mantalena.jpg

In this picture she looks Cretan for god sakes or about as Greek looking as you can get.

[KingOf]

Ok where is Greece is this woman from?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Flag_of_Greek_Macedonia.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Greek_Macedonia.svg.png

[nightrider+]

Ok where is Greece is this woman from?

Veria and Patra.

[kleenex]

Veria and Patra.

I'm guessing 1/2 Peloponnesian 1/2 Macedonian which should produce a pretty typical med phenotype.

[Odin]

Dinaro-Pontid + Borreby.

[Sikeliot]

https://emvolos.gr/petros/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%AD%CE%BD%C E%B1-%CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B4%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%C F%8D%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85-Mantalena.jpg

In this picture she looks Cretan for god sakes or about as Greek looking as you can get.

My envisioning of Cretans must be off, because to me in that picture she looks German or British.

[Zroota]

North Pontid + Alpine

[Megadorian]

North Pontid, would strike as foreign look in Crete and Cycladic islands right away

[Renekton]

North Pontid beautiful mainland type