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Dragoon
06-04-2018, 08:47 PM
Not an expert on Brazil, from what know:

Part 1

2010 census:
48% brancos, 43% pardos, 8% pardos, etc.

So my estimate for next census:
42% brancos, 48% pardos, 8% pardos, etc

Think that makes any sense?


Part 2

The Census apparently uses categories which are less common among Brazilians.

How would the census numbers look if using:
Branco, Moreno, Pardo, Moreno-Claro, Preto, Negro, Amerala?

And does Moreno mean dark hair and swarthy or dark skinned?

Black Panther
06-04-2018, 08:49 PM
Blacks will increase, as well as Pardos. Asians and Whites will decrease.

Jolsonaro
06-04-2018, 08:50 PM
There would be the option "mestizo", too.

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 08:55 PM
moreno and moreninho are those light skinned blacks that calls themselves pardos

Jolsonaro
06-04-2018, 08:55 PM
Blacks will increase, as well as Pardos. Asians and Whites will decrease.

Not really, there is nothing that indicates that, mulattos/triracials will decrease because they are the persons that are murdered the most nowadays( majority of murdered persons are young blacks and triracial/mulatos), also the birthrate of Brazil is decreasing even in the very SSA influenced areas. And if Brazil became a mroe capitalist country and put an end social programs like Bolsa-Familia, the number of SSA influenced population will decrease even more. So with that, the population of whites and Asians will increase. Also the mongoloid race and caucasoid race are in order the most numerous races in the world. And there are also the mestizos. Majority of the imigrants that came to Brazil nowadays came from white places( like Portugal, Spain, Uruguay and Argentina), from mestizo places( Bolivia, Peru and other latin American countryes), from East Asia( China and Nipo-Braizlians that came back to Brazil) and also from the middle east( Syria, Lebanon, etc). Niggas will fall, accept it bro

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 08:58 PM
Not really, there is nothing that indicates that, mulattos/triracials will decrease because they are the persons that die the most nowadays, also the birthrate of Brazil is decreasing even in the very SSA influenced areas. And if Brazil became a mroe capitalist country and put an end social programs like Bolsa-Familia, the number of SSA influenced population will decrease even more. So with that, the population of whites and Asians will increase. Also the mongoloid race and caucasoid race are in order the most numerous races in the world. And there are also the mestizos. Majority of the imigrants that came to Brazil nowadays came from white places( like Portugal, Spain, Uruguay and Argentina), from mestizo places( Bolivia, Peru and other latin American countryes), from East Asia( China and Nipo-Braizlians that came back to Brazil) and also from the middle east( Syria, Lebanon, etc). Niggas will fall, accept it bro

mestizos were NEVER and will never be that huge as you wish. They were a fucking minority within mixed race group and our old census showed it when they use to separe pardos and mestizos
https://i.imgur.com/bGOBSTW.png
lol
1890 4kk pardos(mulattoes and tri racials) and only 1kk of mestizos(caboclos)

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 08:59 PM
"And if Brazil became a mroe capitalist country and put an end social programs like Bolsa-Familia, the number of SSA influenced population will decrease even more. "

Almost all whites in Rio de janeiro and northeast are ssa influenced, so i doubt for you claim.

skain
06-04-2018, 09:01 PM
I really wonder, how does someone waste their time caring for Brazil.

Dragoon
06-04-2018, 09:03 PM
There would be the option "mestizo", too.

Isnt that for Hispanic countries only?

According to Telles and Petrucelli:

(branco, moreno, pardo, moreno-claro, preto and negro) plus
amarela plus

mulata, clara, and morena-escura) make 99% of Brazilians.

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 09:05 PM
Isnt that for Hispanic countries only?

According to Telles and Petrucelli:

(branco, moreno, pardo, moreno-claro, preto and negro) plus
amarela plus

mulata, clara, and morena-escura) make 99% of Brazilians.

Brazil census used to have mestizo(caboclo) option in 1872 and 1989, but they werent a huge number compared to pardos(mulattoes and tri racials)
https://i.imgur.com/bGOBSTW.png
nowdays, its the pardo option for all mixed race groups.

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 09:08 PM
And today Brazil receives no immigrants other than Haitians and Venezuelans. I doubt that Portuguese wants to immigrate to a third world country.

Black Panther
06-04-2018, 09:18 PM
Not really, there is nothing that indicates that, mulattos/triracials will decrease because they are the persons that are murdered the most nowadays( majority of murdered persons are young blacks and triracial/mulatos), also the birthrate of Brazil is decreasing even in the very SSA influenced areas. And if Brazil became a mroe capitalist country and put an end social programs like Bolsa-Familia, the number of SSA influenced population will decrease even more. So with that, the population of whites and Asians will increase. Also the mongoloid race and caucasoid race are in order the most numerous races in the world. And there are also the mestizos. Majority of the imigrants that came to Brazil nowadays came from white places( like Portugal, Spain, Uruguay and Argentina), from mestizo places( Bolivia, Peru and other latin American countryes), from East Asia( China and Nipo-Braizlians that came back to Brazil) and also from the middle east( Syria, Lebanon, etc). Niggas will fall, accept it bro

Haha. Even if Brazil has high murder rates, it doesn't influence the birth rate of mulattoes and Blacks because it's not the women who are dying, it's the men. The surviving male members can impregnate the women who become widowed. That's simply basic biology there. Learn it. Bolsa Familia is actually keeping Blacks from having more children on average. Africans are way poorer than Afro-Brazilians and have far more kids. More poverty would only mean more Black children being born. Immigration from White countries to Brazil is minimal nowadays. Europeans are old as fuck and don't reproduce so young people are like precious cattle here. They aren't going anywhere. The Europeans who do live in Brazil are likely old and can't have kids anyway. Just pension-receiving expats. Mestizo immigration is an increasing threat, I agree, but East Asian? The Chinese only move to countries that are growing economically. They are not interested in countries with long recessions like Brazil. And African immigration to Brazil is increasing every year. More Angolans, more Nigerians. On top of that, the Northeast doesn't receive a lot of migrants, but sends millions to the Southeast and increasingly, the South. The South is becoming more Black and Brown, but the Northeast remains mostly the same. That is an Afro-victory if you didn't notice.

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 09:26 PM
Haha. Even if Brazil has high murder rates, it doesn't influence the birth rate of mulattoes and Blacks because it's not the women who are dying, it's the men. The surviving male members can impregnate the women who become widowed. That's simply basic biology there. Learn it. Bolsa Familia is actually keeping Blacks from having more children on average. Africans are way poorer than Afro-Brazilians and have far more kids. More poverty would only mean more Black children being born. Immigration from White countries to Brazil is minimal nowadays. Europeans are old as fuck and don't reproduce so young people are like precious cattle here. They aren't going anywhere. The Europeans who do live in Brazil are likely old and can't have kids anyway. Just pension-receiving expats. Mestizo immigration is an increasing threat, I agree, but East Asian? The Chinese only move to countries that are growing economically. They are not interested in countries with long recessions like Brazil. And African immigration to Brazil is increasing every year. More Angolans, more Nigerians. On top of that, the Northeast doesn't receive a lot of migrants, but sends millions to the Southeast and increasingly, the South. The South is becoming more Black and Brown, but the Northeast remains mostly the same. That is an Afro-victory if you didn't notice.

He truly believes that the number of mestizos in Brazil is large. The old census showed that they were as minority as whites. :lol:
Dont forget a lot of Haitians living in Brazil

skain
06-04-2018, 09:31 PM
He truly believes that the number of mestizos in Brazil is large. The old census showed that they were as minority as whites. :lol:
Dont forget a lot of Haitians living in Brazil

Haitiana are leaving Brazil For Chile, USA, Canadá and other latin America countries.

Black Panther
06-04-2018, 09:36 PM
He truly believes that the number of mestizos in Brazil is large. The old census showed that they were as minority as whites. :lol:
Dont forget a lot of Haitians living in Brazil

Yeah. Mestizos are rare. Weren't you the one who posted a study saying more than 60% of Brazilians had wavy, curly or nappy hair? These idiots are clueless as hell.

Black Panther
06-04-2018, 09:37 PM
Haitiana are leaving Brazil For Chile, USA, Canadá and other latin America countries.

Still their numbers are more expressive than those of young European immigrants in Brazil.

Heather Duval
06-04-2018, 09:48 PM
Yeah. Mestizos are rare. Weren't you the one who posted a study saying more than 60% of Brazilians had wavy, curly or nappy hair? These idiots are clueless as hell.

Mestizos dont live in urban areas. You wont found them in big cities like Rio and SP. They are only common in North region where folks are all poor and needs bolsa familia. Belém do Pára is where u gonna found them and they have one of the most poor places in Brazil, actually ive heard the poorest city is there.

akondrel
06-05-2018, 01:55 PM
Fact 1: The time of mass immigration in Europe has passed.
Fact 2: The Europeans who arrived in Brazil did many things, but the main one was more European; they reproduced in the order of eight, ten, twelve, fifteen children per couple. Today's Europeans barely reproduce.
Fact 3: Population growth occurs through two factors: migration and vegetative growth, the latter being the relationship between birth rates and mortality rates

Brazil's white population is declining both by the absence of migration that replaces it and by the low vegetative growth, resulting from birth rates close to the current European standard. But as it lives longer than in previous generations, it is a population that does not decline so sharply, but it ages very rapidly.

Finally, growing miscegenation, even in regions and segments of the white population where this was not common, further accentuates the decline of whites in the general population.

Alvorada Potente
06-05-2018, 02:00 PM
Brazil census is not bad like some people want to make it be

Alvorada Potente
06-05-2018, 02:02 PM
And today Brazil receives no immigrants other than Haitians and Venezuelans. I doubt that Portuguese wants to immigrate to a third world country.

I saw in Fantástico that Portugal was considered the best country to live last year. Only stupid people left Portugal.

Alvorada Potente
06-05-2018, 02:05 PM
Not really, there is nothing that indicates that, mulattos/triracials will decrease because they are the persons that are murdered the most nowadays( majority of murdered persons are young blacks and triracial/mulatos), also the birthrate of Brazil is decreasing even in the very SSA influenced areas. And if Brazil became a mroe capitalist country and put an end social programs like Bolsa-Familia, the number of SSA influenced population will decrease even more. So with that, the population of whites and Asians will increase. Also the mongoloid race and caucasoid race are in order the most numerous races in the world. And there are also the mestizos. Majority of the imigrants that came to Brazil nowadays came from white places( like Portugal, Spain, Uruguay and Argentina), from mestizo places( Bolivia, Peru and other latin American countryes), from East Asia( China and Nipo-Braizlians that came back to Brazil) and also from the middle east( Syria, Lebanon, etc). Niggas will fall, accept it bro

Middle and upper middle class White brazilians are stupid and have very few kids. Only rich white brazilians have a little bit more kids, but its still few.

Alvorada Potente
06-05-2018, 02:06 PM
He truly believes that the number of mestizos in Brazil is large. The old census showed that they were as minority as whites. :lol:
Dont forget a lot of Haitians living in Brazil

Whites are a huge minority

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 02:09 PM
Whites are a huge minority

There are more whites than Mestizos, surely.

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 02:10 PM
Whites are a huge minority

There are more whites than Mestizos, surely.

Smaug
06-05-2018, 02:48 PM
Caboclo is the Brazilian Mestizo. What happened to them? They seem to have vanished.

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 03:10 PM
Caboclo is the Brazilian Mestizo. What happened to them? They seem to have vanished.

They existed in our census and were separeted
https://i.imgur.com/bGOBSTW.png
Since they werent larger than pardos tri racials and mulattoes, Brazilian census only use pardo now for all mongrels.

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 03:14 PM
Not an expert on Brazil, from what know:

Part 1

2010 census:
48% brancos, 43% pardos, 8% pardos, etc.

So my estimate for next census:
42% brancos, 48% pardos, 8% pardos, etc

Think that makes any sense?


Part 2

The Census apparently uses categories which are less common among Brazilians.

How would the census numbers look if using:
Branco, Moreno, Pardo, Moreno-Claro, Preto, Negro, Amerala?

And does Moreno mean dark hair and swarthy or dark skinned?

True, in 2030 Brazil will be like PR and in 2050 Brazil will be like Venezuela.

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 03:15 PM
In 2050 Venezuela will be like Panama.

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 03:20 PM
True, in 2030 Brazil will be like PR and in 2050 Brazil will be like Venezuela.

Tu tem que temer o novo census pq com esse negócio de militancia e influencia dos EUA, muitos moreninhos e morenos claros estão se dizendo negros.

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 03:22 PM
Portanto, assumir-se negro no Brasil sempre foi muito difícil, por todo o conteúdo ideológico anti-negro que historicamente se desenvolveu no país, onde ainda hoje impera a ideologia do branqueamento e um padrão branco-europeu estético e cultural.[6] Portanto, no Brasil, apenas as pessoas de pele preta retinta são consideradas negras, sendo que o mulato já é pardo e portanto meio-branco e, se tiver a pele um pouco mais clara, passa a ser visto como branco. No passado, era raro o mulato saltar para o lado negro de sua dupla natureza uma vez que, diante da massa de negros afundados na miséria, com eles não queria se confundir.[5]

Nos últimos anos, contudo, cada vez mais brasileiros se assumem como negros. Isso é consequência do sucesso dos negros americanos, vistos pelos brasileiros como uma "vitória da raça" e, principalmente, devido à ascensão social de parcela da população afrodescendente que, tendo acesso à educação e a melhores oportunidades de emprego, deixa de ter vergonha de assumir a sua cor.[5]

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 03:25 PM
Tu tem que temer o novo census pq com esse negócio de militancia e influencia dos EUA, muitos moreninhos e morenos claros estão se dizendo negros.

É vdd

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 03:29 PM
É vdd

A própria midia BR hj em dia faz isso. As novelas sobre escravidão dos anos 90, era lotada de negros com aparência pura. Hoje em dia, eles colocam Sheron Menezes pra interpretar escrava.

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 03:29 PM
Tem gente estilo Camila Pitanga/Neymar/Gaby Amarantos/Dira Paes se sentindo um Negro Africano.
Isso é tão maluco quanto o Daniel Alves se sentir Europeu.

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 03:34 PM
Tem gente estilo Camila Pitanga/Neymar/Gaby Amarantos/Dira Paes se sentindo um Negro Africano.
Isso é tão maluco quanto o Daniel Alves se sentir Europeu.

Mas os pais da Camila são negros de aparência. Ela só saiu mais clara que eles, igual minha irmã.
https://extra.globo.com/incoming/19906000-2c4-f5f/w448/os-pais-antonio-pitanga-e-vera-manhae-com-camila-pitanga.jpg
Camila tem o mesmo nariz/olhos e sorriso do pai
https://s2.glbimg.com/t4XLqecQEn4oMkpsMBfexTrCcgo=/1200x/smart/filters:cover():strip_icc()/i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_e84042ef78cb4708aeebdf1c68c6cbd6/internal_photos/bs/2017/a/p/8BKA4dTnOAjn8mviVjmg/pitanga.jpg

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 03:51 PM
Mas os pais da Camila são negros de aparência. Ela só saiu mais clara que eles, igual minha irmã.
https://extra.globo.com/incoming/19906000-2c4-f5f/w448/os-pais-antonio-pitanga-e-vera-manhae-com-camila-pitanga.jpg
Camila tem o mesmo nariz/olhos e sorriso do pai
https://s2.glbimg.com/t4XLqecQEn4oMkpsMBfexTrCcgo=/1200x/smart/filters:cover():strip_icc()/i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_e84042ef78cb4708aeebdf1c68c6cbd6/internal_photos/bs/2017/a/p/8BKA4dTnOAjn8mviVjmg/pitanga.jpg

Mto divertido

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 03:54 PM
Na verdade, a mãe dela parece tri racial
https://extra.globo.com/incoming/17615925-25d-06f/w448h673-PROP/xcamila-pitanga.jpg.pagespeed.ic.7OQ8jsAaHn.jpg

Reyzuh
06-05-2018, 04:00 PM
Mestizos are minority in Brazil??? What will people assume if I ever go there..

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 04:04 PM
Mestizos are minority in Brazil??? What will people assume if I ever go there..

They exist in the North of Brazil, and rural places of Rio Grande do sul.

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 04:05 PM
Mestizos are minority in Brazil??? What will people assume if I ever go there..

I dont know, but you are very typical in this country.

QUICAS
06-05-2018, 04:06 PM
He looks Puerto Rican

akondrel
06-05-2018, 04:12 PM
Tu tem que temer o novo census pq com esse negócio de militancia e influencia dos EUA, muitos moreninhos e morenos claros estão se dizendo negros.

Não há dúvida, a questão da influência política e cultural na construção da identidade racial vai pesar muito. A tendência, a meu ver, é um contingente de pessoas que seriam anteriormente tidos como pardos, principalmente os de aparência mais "escura", se identificando como negros. Talvez até uma minoria de pessoas de origem mista que se veriam e seriam vistas como brancas vinte ou trinta anos atrás se colocando como pardas ou até negras.

Basta ver esses artistas ou blogueiros de aparência completamente europeia que, ao fazer um teste de DNA e descobrir, sei lá, 2% de ancestralidade africana, já ficam comemorando que são nigerianos. Claro que, como regra, esses casos extremos são militantes que se identificam fortemente com a esquerda progressista, mas a influência na opinião pública, e desta na identidade de cada indivíduo, não pode ser negligenciada.

Heather Duval
06-05-2018, 04:18 PM
Não há dúvida, a questão da influência política e cultural na construção da identidade racial vai pesar muito. A tendência, a meu ver, é um contingente de pessoas que seriam anteriormente tidos como pardos, principalmente os de aparência mais "escura", se identificando como negros. Talvez até uma minoria de pessoas de origem mista que se veriam e seriam vistas como brancas vinte ou trinta anos atrás se colocando como pardas ou até negras.

Basta ver esses artistas ou blogueiros de aparência completamente europeia que, ao fazer um teste de DNA e descobrir, sei lá, 2% de ancestralidade africana, já ficam comemorando que são nigerianos. Claro que, como regra, esses casos extremos são militantes que se identificam fortemente com a esquerda progressista, mas a influência na opinião pública, e desta na identidade de cada indivíduo, não pode ser negligenciada.

Exato. Os antigos pardos agora se enxergam como negros por causa da influencia dos EUA e os movimentos anti colorismo. Essa menina aqui há alguns anos atrás se identificava como parda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrwQ5exHvc

Reyzuh
06-05-2018, 04:19 PM
They exist in the North of Brazil, and rural places of Rio Grande do sul.

I really doubt is my SSA That makes me look like a none white Brazilian by rule majority of Mexicans are no more than 5% SSA.

The thing is I'm mixed with an Amerindian type that can create sorta carribean look when is heavily mixed with Caucasian

Latinus
06-06-2018, 04:15 AM
Mestizos are minority in Brazil??? What will people assume if I ever go there..

You would be considered white here.

Reyzuh
06-06-2018, 04:22 AM
You would be considered white here.

Interesting. I'm wondering how you look Latinus. ;)

skain
06-06-2018, 06:36 AM
You would be considered white here.

Not in south.

Black Panther
06-06-2018, 12:01 PM
Not in south.

Maybe in large Southern cities. It's full of mongrels in those places.

akondrel
06-06-2018, 03:17 PM
Not in south.

The presence of non-whites increased greatly in southern cities, especially in the capital and medium-sized cities. This presence and the growing miscegenation are altering the "lines" between who is perceived as white and who is not.

Black Panther
06-07-2018, 08:56 PM
The presence of non-whites increased greatly in southern cities, especially in the capital and medium-sized cities. This presence and the growing miscegenation are altering the "lines" between who is perceived as white and who is not.

Ô povinho danado esses pardos, kkkkkkkkk.

cyberlorian
06-07-2018, 08:57 PM
Ô povinho danado esses pardos, kkkkkkkkk.

Can naber ya? :D

Black Panther
06-07-2018, 08:59 PM
Can naber ya? :D

Sry, what?

cyberlorian
06-07-2018, 09:02 PM
Sry, what?

Don't get it serious please :D I said How are you Can in Turkish. You look like one of my friends whose name is Can :D

Black Panther
06-07-2018, 09:03 PM
Don't get it serious please :D I said How are you Can in Turkish. You look like one of my friends whose name is Can :D

I figured that afterwards, lol. I am fine thanks. How about you?

cyberlorian
06-07-2018, 09:05 PM
I figured that afterwards, lol. I am fine thanks. How about you?

I am fine too. Thanks :)

Lucas Rodrigues
06-22-2018, 01:27 AM
They existed in our census and were separeted
https://i.imgur.com/bGOBSTW.png
Since they werent larger than pardos tri racials and mulattoes, Brazilian census only use pardo now for all mongrels.Interesting. According to this table the number of cablocos from the year 1872 to 1890 increased 234,4%, whereas the number of pretos in the same period increased 7,3%.

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runecrafting
06-23-2018, 02:52 AM
I stopped looking at brazilian census a long ago because it is purely based on self declaration.
47% of the population self declares as white but only 23% of those 47% (10% of the total population) have between 90% and 100% european DNA according to genetic studies

Heather Duval
06-23-2018, 04:22 AM
I stopped looking at brazilian census a long ago because it is purely based on self declaration.
47% of the population self declares as white but only 23% of those 47% (10% of the total population) have between 90% and 100% european DNA according to genetic studies

Is you real white?
https://i.imgur.com/fHksZe6.gif

runecrafting
06-23-2018, 04:32 AM
Is you real white?
https://i.imgur.com/fHksZe6.gif

Yes :coffee:

Heather Duval
06-23-2018, 04:34 AM
Yes :coffee:

https://i.imgur.com/PvX5vBe.gif