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Levant15
06-08-2018, 01:30 AM
I went through my 23andme matches and found a significant number of Ashkenazi Jews matches. Most of them share 0.15% with me, some are more.
The question is are we really related or take it with a grain of salt?
Also I noticed most of the haplogroups are found in upper west Asia or Europe. Not much in Palestinians or Lebanese. Do you really think they originated from Ancient Israel?
I compiled the list and put it here.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cMWb9zBAH0g77FBbVz8CYEiAie6WIKki4yMaeic4fUs/edit?usp=drivesdk
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MysteriousWays
06-08-2018, 01:43 AM
Ashkenazi maternal haplogroups tend to be fairly European. There is massive disagreement on exactly how much; I've heard figures of anything from 50-55% on the low end to 85% on the high end.
Y-DNA tend to be more West Asian, but not uniformly so (I don't have a great sense of what percentage of Ashkenazi Y DNA haplogroups are West Asian and/or Middle Eastern in origins).
One thing that strikes me immediately from these matches is the low prevalence of K1a1b1a, which is essentially exclusive to Ashkenazi Jews. Something like 40% of Polish Jews have this mtDNA haplogroup, although as you get further east into Europe, the percentage goes down into the low 20s, and H haplogroups rise accordingly (I think 30-35% for Ashkenazi Jews all along, but is more like 50% for Ukrainian and Russian Jews). Also, E-V13 is rather atypical for Ashkenazi Jews. Most Ashkenazim with E1b have either V22 (Sephardim also have this subclade decently often) or E-M34 (same here).
Levant15
06-10-2018, 12:50 AM
Ashkenazi maternal haplogroups tend to be fairly European. There is massive disagreement on exactly how much; I've heard figures of anything from 50-55% on the low end to 85% on the high end.
Y-DNA tend to be more West Asian, but not uniformly so (I don't have a great sense of what percentage of Ashkenazi Y DNA haplogroups are West Asian and/or Middle Eastern in origins).
One thing that strikes me immediately from these matches is the low prevalence of K1a1b1a, which is essentially exclusive to Ashkenazi Jews. Something like 40% of Polish Jews have this mtDNA haplogroup, although as you get further east into Europe, the percentage goes down into the low 20s, and H haplogroups rise accordingly (I think 30-35% for Ashkenazi Jews all along, but is more like 50% for Ukrainian and Russian Jews). Also, E-V13 is rather atypical for Ashkenazi Jews. Most Ashkenazim with E1b have either V22 (Sephardim also have this subclade decently often) or E-M34 (same here).To me it looks like they don't seem resemble someone who came from the Levant. Do you think it's because of bottleneck event?
They're high on east med component but even south Europeans and west Asians are as well.
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Anglojew
06-10-2018, 05:07 AM
I went through my 23andme matches and found a significant number of Ashkenazi Jews matches. Most of them share 0.15% with me, some are more.
The question is are we really related or take it with a grain of salt?
Also I noticed most of the haplogroups are found in upper west Asia or Europe. Not much in Palestinians or Lebanese. Do you really think they originated from Ancient Israel?
I compiled the list and put it here.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cMWb9zBAH0g77FBbVz8CYEiAie6WIKki4yMaeic4fUs/edit?usp=drivesdk
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I think you're distantly related.
Meerkat
06-10-2018, 05:13 AM
I don't think the Ancient Israelites were pure Levantines
I noticed that there are a lot of pure Asheknazim who look West Asian but don't look Levantine.
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