MASSIVE tsunami hits Japan - Hawaii next

[Motörhead Remember Me]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/massive-earthquake-and-tsunamis-hit-japan-46-dead-many-missing-1.348533

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[Motörhead Remember Me]

8,9 on the Richterscale. Mad earthquake.

[Ushtari]

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[Beorn]

2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami), Haiti earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake), China earthquake, (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/14/china-earthquake-death-toll-yushu)and now the Japanese earthquake/tsunami (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/mar/11/japan-earthquake-tsunami-video)...

With upheaval in the Arab world, I bet a few (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNZvfiKrJHo) are getting lazy pucker holes, or some (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsC0BCAwkb4) may well be singing quite happily whilst going to work.

[The Lawspeaker]

I have told my friends out in the Philippines what I know. There has been no damage in Taiwan (as of yet) and no deaths. But Japan itself really got the bad end of the stick and it is about to hit the Philippines. According to NOS (http://nos.nl/nieuws/live/journaal24/) (Dutch "BBC") some 32 deaths confirmed in Japan (as of yet).

Bad news.. according to NOS a nuclear power-plant or factory seems to be on fire. Probably the reactor itself. It seems to be under control but don't rejoice just yet. The entire nuclear power network has been taken down as a precaution.

[The Lawspeaker]

Some more news. State of nuclear emergency declared in Japan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/11/japan-declares-nuclear-emergency-quake). I also read it now in the foreign press that a powerplant is on fire and an other one malfunctioned. According to NOS this is a very bad day for the Yen.

[Cato]

Bad news.. according to NOS a nuclear power-plant or factory seems to be on fire. Probably the reactor itself. It seems to be under control but don't rejoice just yet. The entire nuclear power network has been taken down as a precaution.[/FONT]

But if the reactor core and its internal mechanisms are damaged, water pumps, etc., then it's going to lead to a meltdown. :confused:

[The Lawspeaker]

But if the reactor core and its internal mechanisms are damaged, water pumps, etc., then it's going to lead to a meltdown. :confused:
Let's hope that the Japanese will find something... fast. This could potentially get very nasty.

[Cato]

Let's hope that the Japanese will find something... fast. This could potentially get very nasty.

Large areas of Honshu are flattened to the point you'd like it was the war again. :eek:

[Lábaru]

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[The Lawspeaker]

Large areas of Honshu are flattened to the point you'd like it was the war again. :eek:
It's incredible, mate. If a country like Japan takes such a swipe.. god knows what will happen in the Pacific.

[Svanhild]

I hope the level of destruction and number of human victims won't be as high as it seems. But I'm afraid that's the prize mankind has to pay for moving to well-known earthquake zones. Entire Japan lies on borders of moving continental plates and everyone there knows it. Same goes for San Francisco and California where an immense earthquake is overdue, according to scientists. People ignore the steady danger and hope it will happen after their lifetime. It's like playing Russian Roulette. Day by day.

[Cato]

It's incredible, mate. If a country like Japan takes such a swipe.. god knows what will happen in the Pacific.


Tumblers in Japan aren't rare, but as I understand it this is one of the largest quakes Japan's ever experienced.

[The Lawspeaker]

Apparently in the NOS feed there seems to be a ship missing. It seems to have had over 100 people aboard.

[The Lawspeaker]

Tumblers in Japan aren't rare, but as I understand it this is one of the largest quakes Japan's ever experienced.
It's actually THE biggest quake to hit the country over the past 140 years.

[Cato]

It's actually THE biggest quake to hit the country over the past 140 years.


Larger than the big Kanto quake in the 1920s?

[The Lawspeaker]

Larger than the big Kanto quake in the 1920s?
Not in death rate but in magnitude ? Much bigger. Kanto was 7.9. This is 8.9

[Motörhead Remember Me]

^Yes

[Cato]

Not in death rate but in magnitude ? Much bigger. Kanto was 7.9. This is 8.9

7.9 to 8.9 is an exponential increase isn't it?

[The Lawspeaker]

7.9 to 8.9 is an exponential increase isn't it?

Well yes. The biggest one ever in 1960. In Chile. It was 9.5 -- this one already made it to the fourth or fifth position of biggest quakes ever.

[The Lawspeaker]

According to NOS - the Japanese government confirms that the number of deaths is now 59.

Right now in Fukushima prefecture 2000 people (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/at-least-59-dead-numerous-others-missing-injured-after-quake) are being evacuated because of the trouble with the cooling system of the nuclear power plant.

[Lábaru]

http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4d7a1947cadcbbff18100000-915/a-whirlpool-forms-near-the-port-of-oarai.jpg

[Cato]

This has pretty much captured the world's attention, as if the world needed more media blitzing. Not to downplay the quake, but...

[The Lawspeaker]

NOS reports 64 people dead. A Japanologist that has joined the broadcast is checking the local Sendai news and it seems to report that "a great number of bodies are washing ashore" which seems to denote that the number of deaths is considerably higher still.

[Gamera]

http://www.weather.gov/ptwc/text.php?id=pacific.2011.03.11.073000


A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR
JAPAN / RUSSIA / MARCUS IS. / N. MARIANAS / GUAM / WAKE IS. /
TAIWAN / YAP / PHILIPPINES / MARSHALL IS. / BELAU / MIDWAY IS. /
POHNPEI / CHUUK / KOSRAE / INDONESIA / PAPUA NEW GUINEA /
NAURU / JOHNSTON IS. / SOLOMON IS. / KIRIBATI / HOWLAND-BAKER /
HAWAII / TUVALU / PALMYRA IS. / VANUATU / TOKELAU / JARVIS IS. /
WALLIS-FUTUNA / SAMOA / AMERICAN SAMOA / COOK ISLANDS / NIUE /
AUSTRALIA / FIJI / NEW CALEDONIA / TONGA / MEXICO /
KERMADEC IS / FR. POLYNESIA / NEW ZEALAND / PITCAIRN /
GUATEMALA / EL SALVADOR / COSTA RICA / NICARAGUA / ANTARCTICA /
PANAMA / HONDURAS / CHILE / ECUADOR / COLOMBIA / PERU

[Cato]

This is a disaster for the records books. :eek:

[Lábaru]

This has pretty much captured the world's attention, as if the world needed more media blitzing. Not to downplay the quake, but...

In Spain is being used by socialists for not to mention the anniversary of the Islamic attack of the 11 M.

[Sturmgewehr]

I saw some videos where the water was carrying cars with it, pretty scary scenery, I feel sorry for the people there :(

[Eldritch]

2011 Earthquake Events

After the March 11, 2011 earthquake, NHK Broadcasting reported that all six reactors shut down automatically, but that electrical problems prevented all cooling pumps for reactor #1 from functioning. Because cooling pumps are needed to reduce residual reactor heat, a nuclear emergency was declared. Under Japanese law, a nuclear emergency must be declared if there is a release of radiation, if there is a dangerous level of water in the reactor, or if the cooling mechanisms fail. However, there is no evidence of any radiation being released.[1] It was the first time a nuclear emergency had been declared in Japan. The emergency cooling systems also were activated for reactor #2. More than 2800 residents living near the power plant were ordered to evacuate

[Jack B]

Some of the pictures are pretty crazy, that huge wave sweeping through the country carrying boats and houses etc

[Ushtari]

According to Japanese news agency Kyodo 88 000 people are missing, writes BBC.

[The Lawspeaker]

According to Japanese news agency Kyodo 88 000 people are missing, writes BBC.
NOS already says that there are 200 to 300 people dead. But 88 000 missing ? Good lord...

I can't find that figure on the BBC or Kyodo site.

[Treffie]

7.9 to 8.9 is an exponential increase isn't it?

8.9 means it's 8000 times more powerful than the Christchurch earthquake.

[Grumpy Cat]

My ex lives in Japan now. I have been trying to get a hold of him.

[Graham]

Damnit, watching the bbc news the now. Work for a Japanese company, they'll be a few worried Japs at ma work.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

NOS reports 64 people dead. A Japanologist that has joined the broadcast is checking the local Sendai news and it seems to report that "a great number of bodies are washing ashore" which seems to denote that the number of deaths is considerably higher still.

The first reports from the 2004 Tsunami were something like this:
"At least 65 dead"
"More than 200 dead"

Expect the death toll to rise.

[Treffie]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51632000/gif/_51632882_japan_earthqk_pacific_ring.gif

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Tsunami got to Hawaii, only 60-70 cm wave.

[Ushtari]

NOS already says that there are 200 to 300 people dead. But 88 000 missing ? Good lord...

I can't find that figure on the BBC or Kyodo site.

Heard it on swedish new agency "Aftonbladet", but they are not known for being accurate, so to speak...

[Fortis in Arduis]

:yawnee20::yawnee20:Compassion fatigue anyone? :yawnee20:

[The Lawspeaker]

:yawnee20::yawnee20:Compassion fatigue anyone? :yawnee20:
Not me. I feel a lot more compassion for the Japanese then I do for Africans. Japanese may be Asians but they are a lot like us in a lot of ways.

[Loddfafner]

This being Japan, I bet this will be the most photographed and videotaped disaster ever.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Finally. A natural disaster in a country I don't have to give money to. * *




I just rung my Japanese friend to make sure he was okay after the Tsunami and all he did was go on about his social life.

Just kept going on and on about a huge rave.




The one japanese I feel most sorry for is the one who has to identify the bodies.


Earthquake hits Japan,

This must be a real eye opener for them.


BBC News: Following a record attempt to row across the Pacific two men were just pipped at the post by a Japanese woman in a deckchair.


''Earthquake off the coast of northern Japan at least 8000 times the magnitude of the recent quake in Christchurch in New Zealand''

Oh Japan, always having to be bigger and better.





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[The Ripper]

This being Japan, I bet this will be the most photographed and videotaped disaster ever.

Exactly what my friend said to me just a couple of minutes ago on the phone.

[Smaland]

For comparison, here is the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_Great_Kant%C5%8D_earthquake) on the 1923 Kanto earthquake.

[Beorn]

:yawnee20::yawnee20:Compassion fatigue anyone? :yawnee20:

It's a conspiracy by the media to deflect attention away from Charlie Sheen.

[Bloodeagle]

We got hit by the tidal surge but it was uneventful.


A tide guage at Shemya, Alaska, monitored by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration showed water rising 5 feet early Friday. Meters near Adak and Dutch Harbor showed smaller rises.
The State Emergency Coordination Center activated late Thursday and plans to remain active until all Alaska communties are in the clear. There have been no reports of damage. I hope the Japanese dodged a bullet on this one and the death toll stays low, relative to the losses, from the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami)

[la bombe]

I know a girl who is living in Okinawa with her husband and kids but as of a few hours ago, they were OK.

[Svanhild]

People who live on red earthquake territories, Erdbebengebiete, can never feel really save. The violet dots mark earthquakes over 7.0 on the Richterscale since 1900.

http://www.klett.de/sixcms/media.php/76/erdbebengebiete.jpg

[Gamera]

Look at the buildings moving, great engineering for sure:

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[Bloodeagle]

People who live on red earthquake territories, Erdbebengebiete, can never feel really save. The violet dots mark earthquakes over 7.0 on the Richterscale since 1900.

http://www.klett.de/sixcms/media.php/76/erdbebengebiete.jpg

I have always lived along the ring of fire. Earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanism are just a fact of life for us. Preparation and education is our best defense.
If I lived anywhere else in the United States, I might have to worry about tornado's, hurricanes, or flooding.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

This being Japan, I bet this will be the most photographed and videotaped disaster ever.

... with the mandatory giggling girls showing the "V" sign...

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Not me. I feel a lot more compassion for the Japanese then I do for Africans. Japanese may be Asians but they are a lot like us in a lot of ways.


Same here. Having lived in Taiwan, I have a lot of respect for Asians.
I experienced several earthquakes and taiphoons and there's not much you as a homo sapiens can put up against the natural forces.

[Adalwolf]

On the news, it just mentioned that they're issuing a second tsunami warning.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Look at the buildings moving, great engineering for sure:

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Always made me wonder how many quakes a skyscraper than take before the stresslevel is breached.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

On the news, it just mentioned that they're issuing a second tsunami warnveng.

No wonder, there's been more than 30 after quakes and some of them have been over 7 on the Richter scale. That's a lot ...

[Adalwolf]

Forgot to mention: In case people don't know, the Japanese got hit by a 7.3 offshore quake two days ago, too.

[Turkophagos]

Poor Japanese, it's awful when such disasters hit nice people.


Why an earthquake like this doen't hit Merkel's house instead?

[The Lawspeaker]

Poor Japanese, it's awful when such disasters hit nice people.


Why an earthquake like this doen't hit Merkel's house instead? Why not at all the homes of every European politician ? :cool:

[Beorn]

Why not at all the homes of every European politician ? :cool:

We'd only have to fund it through taxes to get them rehoused whilst they spend millions having their homes rebuilt.

A blessing from this tragedy really. No foreign aid.

[Cato]

Compare the earthquake in Haiti to the earthquake in Japan.

[Eldritch]

Where are Bono and Bob Geldof?

[Svanhild]

I have always lived along the ring of fire. Earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanism are just a fact of life for us. Preparation and education is our best defense.
Come to Central Europe. We don't have volcanism, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, tsunamis, blizzards...:wink


Why an earthquake like this doen't hit Merkel's house instead?
But who would provide you Greek with money so that you can buy food for 50€ per day and 350€ per week then?

[poiuytrewq0987]

It's actually THE biggest quake to hit the country over the past 140 years.


For Europe I can think of the 1963 Skopje earthquake where it was rather devastating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Skopje_earthquake

[Gamera]

For Europe I can think of the 1963 Skopje earthquake where it was rather devastating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Skopje_earthquake

This one was worse:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake

[poiuytrewq0987]

This one was worse:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake

Perhaps so but 1755 is like ancient history. The Skopje earthquake is still fresh in many of our minds especially for the people from there.

[CelticTemplar]

20 bucks says that when the tsunami hits Hawaii the Feds are gonna blame it for loosing Obama's birth certificate.

[Eurocentric]

Very sad!

I like the Japanese people. It is an honorable people, honest and hardworking. Here in Brazil, in the past, they worked as slaves on coffee plantations, and today, after much sweat and effort, they show to certain groups as you grow in life without taking anything from anyone and without quotas.

As always, they will rise again.

[Radojica]

Perhaps so but 1755 is like ancient history. The Skopje earthquake is still fresh in many of our minds especially for the people from there.

Ancient history is making modern world ;). That earthquake was the reason of scientific exploration of earthquakes, so that year and that earthquake are the most important in the history of seismology.

[Brynhild]

From what I've been hearing over the radio, aftershocks registering 6 on the richter are also occurring, which is going to make it difficult for any rescue and clean-up efforts. The death toll is also set to rise to over 1000.

An interesting case in point about natural disasters. Australia is also a country of extremes - be it drought, fire and or flood. There aren't too many places in the world that are free from any sort of natural disaster. And just where you think somewhere could be, a disaster will strike sooner or later. It's just one of those things in life that you learn to accept.

[The Ripper]

Where are Bono and Bob Geldof?

Tsk, tsk. Only people who can't (or won't) look after themselves deserve our sympathy. :eusa_naughty:

[Beorn]

Britain will lend them some. We will have to close down a service dedicated to re-housing injured soldiers, or something not vital, but we'll get the aid to them some how.

[Gamera]

Exactly two hours until the tsunami wave reaches Peruvian shores. It is expected to be weak though, I'll watch what happens since I live right in front of the ocean (but high enough so that we're perfectly safe in any case).

[Gamera]

http://correoperu.pe/correo/fotos/57506320110311194309.jpg

People waiting for the tsunami to come, now due only 30 minutes, with cameras and whatnot.... in Miraflores, Lima.

[The Lawspeaker]

http://correoperu.pe/correo/fotos/57506320110311194309.jpg

People waiting for the tsunami to come, now due only 30 minutes, with cameras and whatnot....
Well it will probably be a weak little wave but damn fucking idiots... if it will become a swipe then they will what they rightfully deserve. Gamera: look for a safe spot - just to be sure.

[Gamera]

Well it will probably be a weak little wave but damn fucking idiots... if it will become a swipe then they deserve what they get. Gamera: look for a safe spot - just to be sure.


Well, it's very safe there actually, since it's very high up, see this pic:

http://www.tvperu.gob.pe/noticias/images/stories/locales/costa_evrde_de_lima.jpg

It's like that almost in the entire Lima coast. Not even a very strong tsunami would reach them. :p

The roads down there, of course, have been closed.

[The Lawspeaker]

Well, it's very safe there actually, since it's very high up, see this pic:

http://www.tvperu.gob.pe/noticias/images/stories/locales/costa_evrde_de_lima.jpg

It's like that almost in the entire Lima coast. Not even a very strong tsunami would reach them. :p

:D O.K.. I was like "dumbfucks are standing right on the beach..."

[Beorn]

Even still, get to higher ground so we can see more dumbfucks drowning and dying. :)

We in the West demand this from you.

[Talvi]

I hear that one of their nuclear power plants has started to leak.

[The Lawspeaker]

I hear that one of their nuclear power plants has started to leak.
Good Lord.. so it has been confirmed ?

[Svanhild]

Good Lord.. so it has been confirmed ?


http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg
"Everything is fine, the reactor is under full control. The radioactive particles commit mass suicide and we cool the fuel rods with ice tea."

On a more serious note, I hope they can solve the problems ASAP. I'm afraid that hysteric media will use these accidents to butcher atomic energy as a whole.

[Beorn]

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes."

OMG! Teh nukcle3r is goin' 2 blooow!

[Talvi]

Japanese nuclear officials say radiation levels inside a nuclear power plant have surged to 1,000 times their normal levels after the cooling system failed.

The nuclear safety agency said early Saturday that some radiation has also seeped outside the plant, prompting calls for further evacuations of the area. Some 3,000 people have already been urged to leave their homes, and the government declared its first-ever state of emergency at a nuclear plant.

They have already evacuated the area and are trying to get it under control.

[Loddfafner]

Ancient history is making modern world ;). That earthquake was the reason of scientific exploration of earthquakes, so that year and that earthquake are the most important in the history of seismology.

It was also the turning point for secularism. Since pious Portugal would be God's last choice for a country to destroy, enlightened thinkers considered more seriously the possibility that if there is a god, he is no longer actively involved in our affairs so maybe we should take responsibility for our fate.

[Sturmgewehr]

Hope they get that Nuclear thing under control, that stuff is very very serious.

that is the price you pay if you know you are a country that gets a bunch of earthquakes and build the plant next to the beach, that is lame, build them somewhere up where the waves can't reach it.

[Gamera]

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2011-03-11-pescador-murio-por-intentar-ver-el-tsunami-noticia_344563.html

A fisherman died in Lima trying to see the Tsunami. He refused to leave the area and he fell off a cliff. Natural selection I guess, lol

Btw, there was barely any activity at all.

[Adalwolf]

That guy basically just committed suicide then. How was he to know how powerful the tsunami was going to be.

[Lábaru]

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http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/massive_earthquake_hits_japan.html

and here a lot more shocking photographs.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/massive_earthquake_hits_japan.html

[Beorn]

LOL! I wonder at what point the used school girls panty sniffers thought God was after them?

The fires burning on the top of a fucking Tsunami would have been the pinnacle of my realisation for me.

"I velly solly! I won't buy anoller girw panties."

[Lurker]

Hope they get that Nuclear thing under control, that stuff is very very serious.

that is the price you pay if you know you are a country that gets a bunch of earthquakes and build the plant next to the beach, that is lame, build them somewhere up where the waves can't reach it.

Nuclear power plants need water, lots of it, to run. That's why so many nuclear power plants are located near the coast, lakes or big rivers. And in Japan, everywhere is prone to earthquakes.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Nuclear power plants need water, lots of it, to run. That's why so many nuclear power plants are located near the coast, lakes or big rivers. And in Japan, everywhere is prone to earthquakes.

I suggest aerial nuclear power plants to avoid the threat of earthquakes. :laugh:

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Explosion at nuclear power plant and smoke rising!

[Talvi]

Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano confirmed on Saturday there has been an explosion and radiation leakage at Tokyo Electric Power Co's (TEPCO) Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

[Nglund]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/3/12/1299924101575/Smoke-rising-from-Fukushi-008.jpg
Video image of smoke rising from Fukushima plant No 1 after an explosion at the Japanese nuclear power station.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/japan-earthquake-tsunami-aftermath-live

[Noname]

Tragic! But Japan will survive easily. It is one of the most developed nations(societies - countries) of the world!

[Radojica]

It was also the turning point for secularism. Since pious Portugal would be God's last choice for a country to destroy, enlightened thinkers considered more seriously the possibility that if there is a god, he is no longer actively involved in our affairs so maybe we should take responsibility for our fate.

Funny to say this, but that earthquake have had happened on All Saint's day when many of the citizens were in the churches where they found their death.

Aside note:not sure who mentioned (compared) Haiti earthquake and this one: it is about polymorphism of natural hazards and dangers: the same natural danger, of the same magnitude and level show different effects in the different places (countries) and also that more developed and better organized societies are better in overcoming natural hazards and dangers, than poor ones and bad organized ones.

My condolences to the families of those who were killed in this natural danger.

[Svanhild]

European media are hysterical. Japanese experts and politicans keep saying that there was no meltdown and that the pressure is now under control as the inner core is unharmed and cooled down, but some media proceed to paint a second Tschernobyl for the circulation and scaremongering. Cheap.

[Loki]

European media are hysterical. Japanese experts and politicans keep saying that there was no meltdown and that the pressure is now under control as the inner core is unharmed and cooled down, but some media proceed to paint a second Tschernobyl for the circulation and scaremongering. Cheap.

Yeah, this scaremongering will certainly not help the Japanese markets. Media is insane and just after sensationalism.

[Groenewolf]

European media are hysterical. Japanese experts and politicans keep saying that there was no meltdown and that the pressure is now under control as the inner core is unharmed and cooled down, but some media proceed to paint a second Tschernobyl for the circulation and scaremongering. Cheap.

That is something to be expected. By saying that there is high risk for a meltdown, or just focusing on the potential risk for a meltdown (how low it might be) they sell more newspapers then when they keep it to the facts.

[Peasant]

http://www.ustwrap.info/multi/nhk-gtv::yokosonews

Japanese news on the left and a man who tries to translate anything new and important on the right.

It is still possible that a meltdown could happen, but it is apparently unlikely.

[Sturmgewehr]

Nuclear power plants need water, lots of it, to run. That's why so many nuclear power plants are located near the coast, lakes or big rivers. And in Japan, everywhere is prone to earthquakes.

I know, they could have still built it near some River and somewhere higher. Japan is prone to earthquakes but try to Avoid the Tsunamis at least.

they should have taken the Tsunamis into consideration at least a country like that so much developed and very experienced with Earthquakes and Tsunamis.

Just because u need energy you should not endanger the life of millions of people and in case to have a back up plan or something, probably they left the plant in the mercy of the Tsunami.

[The Lawspeaker]

I think that you should learn a thing or two about Japan.

1) The country is overpopulated and has no resources (hence why they were so friggin fierce in World War II)

2) They have been building earthquake resistant buildings for generations (just look at their temples) and have policies regarding to public safety and earthquake preparation since 1961 and children and employees take mandatory training courses (they all have their own helmets and know exactly what to do when it strikes - a bit like the air raid drills we had here in Western Europe during the war). And yes: this applies to any foreigner working in any function for any duration in Japan as well.

3) This is one the heaviest earthquakes ever reported (8.9 on the Richter Scale). The Japanese don't build shoddy as they have learned their lesson a couple of times over but this was so incredibly heavy that everything fails. Everything including a nuclear powerplant. I don't blame them if this one goes up or starts leaking, I pity them the more.

Japan is a country where a train operator gets severely reprimanded if he is 15 seconds late (and no I am not kidding: these people are much more anal then Dutch or Germans -or even Swiss) and where a train operator took his own life out of shame when he was late and now every train, bus, metro or whatever service in Japan is still down (let alone the airlines) and people have to walk home or stay at their office or go to some other location. Power ? Hardly available at the moment. 12 out of over 50 powerplants have been shut down automatically when the quake came.

There has been another earthquake (6.6 I think it was on Richter Scale) in the West of the country and there seems to be a fire somewhere in a city that is 4 kilometres by 2 and a half. Does that remind me of something ? Yes it reminds me of Dresden 1945. The most precise country on earth got dealt a devestating shock.

And no matter how you build or where you build: a nuclear powerplant needs water and flat ground (and they have very little of it). Combine the two ? Where do you end up ? The coastline. You can't prepare for a tsunami anyways because you never know where it is going to strike.

[Curtis24]

So what exactly is the situation with the damaged nuclear plant(s)? The mainstream medi is so incompetent in their coverage that I can't tell what's going on anymore..

[Talvi]

3-4 people are in the hospital due to contact with radiation. But it was said to be minor.

[Sturmgewehr]

There has been another earthquake (6.6 I think it was on Richter Scale) in the West of the country and there seems to be a fire somewhere in a city that is 4 kilometres by 2 and a half. Does that remind me of something ? Yes it reminds me of Dresden 1945. The most precise country on earth got dealt a devestating shock.

And no matter how you build or where you build: a nuclear powerplant needs water and flat ground (and they have very little of it). Combine the two ? Where do you end up ? The coastline. You can't prepare for a tsunami anyways because you never know where it is going to strike.[/FONT]

damn I checked that.

must have been nasty.

I guess you are right about the rest of the stuff u said.

[Troll's Puzzle]

Explosion at nuclear power plant and smoke rising!

coming soon...

http://www.henshinonline.com/images/bfi_godzilla_01.jpg

[Peasant]

So what exactly is the situation with the damaged nuclear plant(s)? The mainstream medi is so incompetent in their coverage that I can't tell what's going on anymore..

The radiation being release at the moment is in steam from the cooling being released to lower the pressure. One building exploded, hydrogen, but the reactor casing was not damaged.

The tsunami took out the backup generators for when the electric was cut off. (which power the cooling system).

Something like that anyway.

[Norbert]

hm... March 11th 2011, strange coincidence eh?

[Radojica]

hm... March 11th 2011, strange coincidence eh?

Don't forget 09.11.2001. and 03.11.2003, terrorist attacks in New York and Madrid..Spooky, isn't it?

And now even more spooky and horrifying: it seems that at least 10.000 people are missing from one port town :eek: :(


10,000 missing in Japan port town


Around 10,000 people are unaccounted for in the Japanese port town of Minamisanriku in quake-hit Miyagi prefecture, public broadcaster NHK said.
The 8.9-magnitude quake hit Japan on Friday, triggering a wall of water up to 10 metres tall to surge inland.
Japan's prime minister, Naoto Kan, has labelled the quake and tsunami an "unprecedented national disaster", and the full devastation is only just beginning to emerge.
NHK says the 10,000 missing people make up more than half of the population of roughly 17,000 in the town on the Pacific coast.

more of this (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/13/3162576.htm?section=justin)

[Talvi]

European media are hysterical. Japanese experts and politicans keep saying that there was no meltdown and that the pressure is now under control as the inner core is unharmed and cooled down, but some media proceed to paint a second Tschernobyl for the circulation and scaremongering. Cheap.


Actually my Japanese friend just told me that the Japanese news are much worse. They are really talking about an explosion there and there are 5 dangerous nuclear power plant areas while the European news just concentrates on Fukushima.

[Gamera]

The waves flooded some towns near the sea in the south of Peru, it was stronger there:

http://www.rpp.com.pe/fuerte-oleaje-inundo-calles-y-casas-de-caleta-de-san-andres-en-pisco-imagen-noticia-8-n-/picsnews/606643.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_M4cpaKHHuD4/TXuJAhlc1zI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/0sUg23WqOLg/s800/DSC09751.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_M4cpaKHHuD4/TXuI0jnuyKI/AAAAAAAAAZU/F3iO17g6WOk/s800/DSC09761.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_M4cpaKHHuD4/TXuI4DiNc3I/AAAAAAAAAZg/raT2x-W0fCs/s800/DSC09758.JPG

1 000 people and their homes/businesses have been affected by it.

Impressive how relatively strong waves can have their origin so far from here, I mean, Japan is like in the other side of the world.

[Sturmgewehr]

So what happened with the Nuclear Reactors ?????????

Hope nothing bad happened.

[Ushtari]

So what happened with the Nuclear Reactors ?????????

Hope nothing bad happened.
About 200000 people are going to be evacuated because of an problem with the third reactor.

[Guapo]

They were deactivated, thanks god.

[The Lawspeaker]

They were deactivated, thanks god.
Thank God...

[Guapo]

Thank the Gods, Thanks to the Gods...

[Brynhild]

Talking of God, I'm surprised I haven't heard any of the more outrageous comments from the born-agains about why this has happened in the first place! One example I can cite relates to the 2009 bushfire in Victoria:


“In my dream I saw fire everywhere with flames burning very high and uncontrollably. With this I woke up from my dream with the interpretation as the following words came to me in a flash from the Spirit of God. That His conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb.”

Found from this site (http://bligbi.com/2009/02/10/asshole-of-the-year-danny-nalliah/). Needless to say, the idiot in question was called arsehole of the year.

My family and I had a Japanese exchange student stay with us last year, so I hope that she and her family are okay.

[Loddfafner]

Talking of God, I'm surprised I haven't heard any of the more outrageous comments from the born-agains about why this has happened in the first place!

You speak too soon. The Japanese are being punished for nuking gay whales at Pearl Harbor. (http://karmajapan.tumblr.com/)

[The Journeyman]

It's amazing the difference in conduct between Katrina disaster victims and these Japanese tsunami victims. I was just watching CNN and heard this report:


"No incidence of looting"

A reporter even mentioned that if someone loses their wallet, it will almost most likely show up at the police station with all the cash still in it.

Then they started pointing to all of the positive stereotypes of Japanese culture. :thumb001:

[Aemma]

Tragic! But Japan will survive easily. It is one of the most developed nations(societies - countries) of the world!

It will but I'm not sure how "easily" it will bounce back. Apparently Japan's economy is not quite what it used to be. Of course with this natural disaster, major public works projects re: infrastructure projects will help boost the economy. But still, from what I've heard, they'll have a long enough road ahead of them.

[Thorum]

Talking of God, I'm surprised I haven't heard any of the more outrageous comments from the born-agains...

Give it time. God and conspiracies will soon abound. Never underestimate the credulous masses...

Japan Tsunami UFO over water (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f9_1299887022)

[Aemma]

Give it time. God and conspiracies will soon abound. Never underestimate the credulous masses...

Japan Tsunami UFO over water (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f9_1299887022)

That and the links to the stories regarding the Big Moon a-coming on March 19th! I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet! :confused:

[Aemma]

BTW, French Revolution discussion found here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24805).

[Brynhild]

You speak too soon. The Japanese are being punished for nuking gay whales at Pearl Harbor. (http://karmajapan.tumblr.com/)


Give it time. God and conspiracies will soon abound. Never underestimate the credulous masses...

Japan Tsunami UFO over water (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f9_1299887022)


Thanks for enlightening me. I didn't think poor old Japan would escape their attention somehow. :(

[Bloodeagle]

I had to laugh when those 4 people (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/crescent-city-harbor-destroyed-people-swept-into-sea.html) got swept away in Crescent City, California, yesterday. Those people in Crescent City should know better than to go out and watch a tsunami, considering that they got hit especially hard after the Alaska Earthquake in 1964 (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/tsunami-1964-video-of-deadly-tidal-wave-washing-into-crescent-city-.html). ;)

[Fortis in Arduis]

If you were Japanese and alive right now, you would be greatful to God that you were not dead, even if you were an atheist cat.

Those poor souls.

[Talvi]

If you were Japanese and alive right now, you would be greatful to God that you were not dead, even if you were an atheist cat.

Those poor souls.

I suppose so even though most Japanese are fine.. the ones way in north and south barely know whats going on and of all the Japanese and also Estonians that I know that are in Japan, ( mostly in Tokyo, Ibaraki, Tsukuba, Yamagata ) are all OK.

[Peasant]

A Finnish paper printed a version of a hoax diagram that was floating around the internet.

http://i.imgur.com/VTbmf.jpg

[Radojica]

A Finnish paper printed a version of a hoax diagram that was floating around the internet.

http://i.imgur.com/VTbmf.jpg

I will never understand that kind of people :ohwell:

Panic in such situations is much worst than the danger itself. According to one survey, 55% of all deaths and injuries during the earthquake is cause because of panic, when people start running out from the buildings, jumping through the windows and such....

Instead to make things easier, those idiots are just making it worst, blahhh :rolleyes2:

[Lábaru]

Watch this video.

www.************/663w6e9

[Talvi]

I will never understand that kind of people :ohwell:

Panic in such situations is much worst than the danger itself. According to one survey, 55% of all deaths and injuries during the earthquake is cause because of panic, when people start running out from the buildings, jumping through the windows and such....

Instead to make things easier, those idiots are just making it worst, blahhh :rolleyes2:

As I understand, during major earthquakes, at least the Japanese, are taught to run out of the building.....

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Impressive how relatively strong waves can have their origin so far from here, I mean, Japan is like in the other side of the world.

Alberto Fujimori probably felt the regards from across the Pacific.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

It's amazing the difference in conduct between Katrina disaster victims and these Japanese tsunami victims. I was just watching CNN and heard this report:


Quote:
"No incidence of looting"

A reporter even mentioned that if someone loses their wallet, it will almost most likely show up at the police station with all the cash still in it.

Then they started pointing to all of the positive stereotypes of Japanese culture. :thumb001:

It's because the Japanese don't have negroes and white trash as the Americans...

:thumbs up

[Radojica]

As I understand, during major earthquakes, at least the Japanese, are taught to run out of the building.....

No they are not. After the first shock, sure, but not during the quake. The best thing to do is to hide under some heavy furniture, next to the inner wall (avoid the ones where are the windows) and wait. Why? Because the stairways are among the first to crumble, roofs, glass from the broken windows. You could see in one of the first videos (in this latest Japan earthquake) where during the earthquake things were falling down from the buildings. So, hide, pray, wait and after get the hell out of there.

[Radojica]

This is in Serbian, from Red Cross of Serbia, appeal for help for Japanese citizens (i added this if there is some reader from Serbia)


Crveni krst Srbije otvorio je bankarski račun za pomoć žrtvama zemljotresa u Japanu i pozvao građane, preduzeća i ustanove da se uključe u akciju prikupljanja
novčanih priloga. Novac može biti uplaćen na račun Crvenog krsta Srbije u Privrednoj banci a.d. Beograd, broj 255-0013100104000-04, sa naznakom "Pomoć stanovništvu Japana". Prikupljeni novac biće upućen japanskom Crvenom krstu, kako bi se omogućilo dostavjanje humanitarne pomoći ugroženom stanovništvu, dodaje se u saopštenju.

[Sturmgewehr]

I read there was a second blast from some other reactor, hope this doesn't turn into another Chernobyl

[Peasant]

Hydrogen explosions in the outer shell. Minor damage to the actual reactors. Containment vessels are not breached.

[Cato]

From what I've heard, Japanese nuclear power plants are built more robustly than most American nuclear power plants because of the frequency of earthquakes in Japan. So, this assumes that the many safety measures, redundant systems, and whatnot all completely failed. The nuclear power plants in California are meant to withstand a magnitude 7.5 or 8 earthquake; I wonder about those in Japan.

[Peasant]

The backup generators/pumps failed due to the tsunami.

[Talvi]

No they are not. After the first shock, sure, but not during the quake. The best thing to do is to hide under some heavy furniture, next to the inner wall (avoid the ones where are the windows) and wait. Why? Because the stairways are among the first to crumble, roofs, glass from the broken windows. You could see in one of the first videos (in this latest Japan earthquake) where during the earthquake things were falling down from the buildings. So, hide, pray, wait and after get the hell out of there.

Ive seen a lot of videos of the Japanese going outside during a major earthquake and i was given the explanation that it is because it is safer outside. I didnt make this up myself, you know.

[Moonbird]

It's amazing the difference in conduct between Katrina disaster victims and these Japanese tsunami victims. I was just watching CNN and heard this report:



A reporter even mentioned that if someone loses their wallet, it will almost most likely show up at the police station with all the cash still in it.

Then they started pointing to all of the positive stereotypes of Japanese culture. :thumb001:

Of course. It wouldn't be PC saying otherwise. Not enough white people where to put the blame on.

[Radojica]

Ive seen a lot of videos of the Japanese going outside during a major earthquake and i was given the explanation that it is because it is safer outside. I didnt make this up myself, you know.

Umm, this picture is excellent example why that is wrong

http://onlinenews4u.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/niigata-earthquake.jpg

Imagine people who were running away from the building, the one in the middle. They ran out just on time to get squeezed like bugs. IN case they stayed inside, there's high probability nothing would happen to them, or to get just a minor injuries.

The ones who gave you that explanation are the ones who would easy get cough by panic and would probably get killed.

Don't get me wrong, even those inside the buildings are dying, but you are much safer inside than outside while all kind of things are falling down.

You have to get out, but only after the first shock wave, not during the one (we are talking about seconds here).

[Talvi]

* 揺れている最中でも・・・

http://twitter.com/gj_neko26/statuses/46394706481004544

聞いた話でびっくりしたのが、とっさに「入口の確保」と揺れてるにも関わらず、あの状況で歩いて入口を開け た人が居たのが凄いと思った。正直、シャンデリアも証明も何時落ちるか分からないのに、凄く勇敢な人が居た 事に感動した。

During the earthquake

We’ve all been trained to immediately open the doors and establish an escape route when there is an earthquake. In the middle of the quake while the building was shaking crazily and things falling everywhere, a man made his way to the entrance and held it open. Honestly, the chandelier could have crashed down any minute … that was a brave man!

Maybe you should argue with the Japanese?

[Smaland]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/3/14/1300129948137/The-damaged-Fukushima-Dai-007.jpg
"The damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in Okuma, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan. Photograph: DigitalGlobe/AFP/Getty Images"


The nuclear crisis in Japan's stricken north-east escalated as officials admitted a third nuclear reactor could be in partial meltdown and warned the situation was "even worse" than in the other two stricken units. It followed a second dramatic hydrogen explosion at the plant.

Full story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/14/japan-nuclear-fukushima-third-reactor)

[Gamera]

Maybe you should argue with the Japanese?

That doesn't necessarily mean they are trained to go out of the buildings immediatly. Most governments do recommend to do what Radojica explained. See here for example:


If indoors

* DROP to the ground; take COVER by getting under a sturdy table or other piece of furniture; and HOLD ON until the shaking stops. If there isn’t a table or desk near you, cover your face and head with your arms and crouch in an inside corner of the building.
* Stay away from glass, windows, outside doors and walls, and anything that could fall, such as lighting fixtures or furniture.
* Stay in bed if you are there when the earthquake strikes. Hold on and protect your head with a pillow, unless you are under a heavy light fixture that could fall. In that case, move to the nearest safe place.
* Use a doorway for shelter only if it is in close proximity to you and if you know it is a strongly supported, loadbearing doorway.
* Stay inside until the shaking stops and it is safe to go outside. Research has shown that most injuries occur when people inside buildings attempt to move to a different location inside the building or try to leave.
* Be aware that the electricity may go out or the sprinkler systems or fire alarms may turn on.
* DO NOT use the elevators.


Many of the 120 fatalities from the 1933 Long Beach earthquake occurred when people ran outside of buildings only to be killed by falling debris from collapsing walls. Ground movement during an earthquake is seldom the direct cause of death or injury. Most earthquake-related casualties result from collapsing walls, flying glass, and falling objects.

http://www.fema.gov/hazard/earthquake/eq_during.shtm

However here in Lima, it is a common thing to immediatly go out during earthquakes, maybe realities are different (buildings here being less resistant than in Japan or the US, thousands of them are built in very unsafe areas). During the last big earthquake in 2007 for example, my whole family immediatly went out of the house (I almost fell down the stairs), but I think I will not do that again if there's another earthquake.

[Electronic God-Man]

Meltdown Likely to be in Progress



History shows again and again how Nature points out the folly of men.


k6rDWqjnW7w

Oh no! There goes Tokyo!

[Radojica]

...

[Aviane]

But if the reactor core and its internal mechanisms are damaged, water pumps, etc., then it's going to lead to a meltdown. :confused:

Looks like a meltdown crisis is occuring so Japan better watch out for drinking water unless they take some iodine with will stop them from getting tyhroid cancer.

I'm in support that Japan will get back it's good position as soon as it can. :cool:

[Bloodeagle]

Earthquake, tsunami, nuclear plant meltdowns -- as if the people of Japan (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Japan) didn't have enough to cope with, a volcano began erupting Sunday.
Hundreds of people were forced to flee when the Shinmoedake volcano on the southern island of Kyushu began spewing ash and boulders.
The explosion from the eruption could be heard miles away and an ash plume extended two miles into the sky.
Shinmoedake, one of several volcanic peaks in the Kirishima mountain range, is 950 miles from the epicenter of Friday's earthquake and scientists weren't sure if the quake triggered the eruption.
Eruptions and quakes are common in Japan's "ring of fire."
The volcano erupted in January - the first major seismic activity on the mountain in 52 years. Scientists say lava had been building up in recent weeks.
Shinmoedake is famous for standing in as the villain's secret rocket base in the 1967 James Bond (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/James+Bond) film, "You Only Live Twice."

[Adalwolf]

Every reporter I have heard on the news has apparently been astonished by the way that the Japanese are reacting to all of this. Compared to Haiti, they're actually responding to the situation with civility and calmness. Potentially things could be a lot more chaotic right now.

[The Ripper]

Every reporter I have heard on the news has apparently been astonished by the way that the Japanese are reacting to all of this. Compared to Haiti, they're actually responding to the situation with civility and calmness. Potentially things could be a lot more chaotic right now.

We're all very surprised the Japanese aren't acting like Haitians. :rolleyes::p

[poiuytrewq0987]

We're all very surprised the Japanese aren't acting like Haitians. :rolleyes::p

Must be because they're a very emasculated people unlike manly Haitians.

[Gamera]

Before and after:

http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308564.jpg

http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308565.jpg

http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308566.jpg

http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308567.jpg

http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308568.jpg

http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308569.jpg

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Latest news:
"Radioactivity level already dangerous, people in a 30 km radius urged to stay indoor".

[poiuytrewq0987]

Now that is one big fucking disaster on a colossal stage. I wouldn't be surprised if it took years for Japan to recover from all the devastation.

[Talvi]

Some of my friends studying in Japan are packing up their things and coming back to Estonia.( at least for a while)
Also, Tokyo is running out of iodine.

Although I think Japan will be fine. Japan is rich and so many countries are sending them support money.

[Don]

KwRnQV2aRHc


...



180 men are, while I am writting, ascending to that place reserved only to the most superior humans, the Heroes, giving their lives not only for their families and loved ones, but for millions of people of their nation.

For now 5 have have died.


I know they deserve more than a post, more than a thread... more than unreal words in a screen...

I can only feel una suprema admiración y profundo respeto for these men.

My thoughts are with them, with the heroes.

Honores y Gloria a los Shishiku.

[Cato]

KwRnQV2aRHc


...



180 men are, while I am writting, ascending to that place reserved only to the most superior humans, the Heroes, giving their lives not only for their families and loved ones, but for millions of people of their nation.

For now 5 have have died.


I know they deserve more than a post, more than a thread... more than unreal words in a screen...

I can only feel una suprema admiración y profundo respeto for these men.

My thoughts are with them, with the heroes.

Honores y Gloria a los Shishiku.

These brave souls unconsciously follow bushido, the way of the warrior, the path of honor of these men:

http://www.japaneselifestyle.com.au/culture/images/samurai.jpg

For the samurai, like for the conquistadores, to die in the service of one's family and friends, one's liege-lord, and one's nation was the highest honor imagineable.

[Loddfafner]

I have only experienced an earthquake once as a kid. It was intense and exciting. I was celebrating my birthday at my grandmother's house. Just as I blew out the candles on the cake, the whole house shook. I don't remember my wish. I dived under the grand piano. A guest from Kansas started to head for the basement which makes sense for a tornado but not for an earthquake. A bookcase fell in front of her. Nobody was injured but it took a while to clean up all the fallen books and the plumbing got screwed up. Aside from a derailed train, the quake turned out to be a mild 5.3.

[Oreka Bailoak]

Every reporter I have heard on the news has apparently been astonished by the way that the Japanese are reacting to all of this. Compared to Haiti, they're actually responding to the situation with civility and calmness. Potentially things could be a lot more chaotic right now.
I tried so hard to find the CNN video where they spent 5 minutes talking about how the Japanese people are so civilized, so collective, how they have no theft and how their mentality is superior to the American mentality. But it looks like they didn't upload the video. (which I do agree with but it is most interesting when you compare that attitude with their videos of earthquakes hitting other nationalities)

Asians and Earthquakes...
When an earth quake happens in Japan- on CNN they talk about the superior mentality and character of Japanese people.

Blacks and earthquakes....
When an earth quake happens in Haiti- CNN complains about the corrupt Haitian government and the old slavery where whites brought blacks over.

White and Earthquakes-
When the earthquake happened in Italy or in New Zealand- they didn't talk about the European mentality at all- even though there was no looting just like in Japan and the people came together in the EXACT same way.

The media is so biased against Europeans (CNN never says our success with natural disasters is due to superior behavior but just says what happens) and favors Blacks (their problems are just their government CNN says and not the people themselves) and also favors Asians (they have superior behavior according to CNN). Our media operates like a mild form of mind control. They assign the role of "oppressed people" to blacks, the role of "moral, hardworking, and calm" to Asians but they DO NOT assign any roles to whites who preform the exact same way during natural disasters as Asians!

I wish the media could just give news reports without all this stupid added liberal stereotyping commentary.

[Talvi]

They way Japanese society works.. is basically to pretend everything is OK. The last thing you want to do is "lose your face" or be ashamed.

The Japanese embassy in Estonia is telling people its OK to go to Japan, no worries, everything is OK.

And Im not sure if things have changed or not, but they arent letting foreign experts to help with the nuclear stuff.

[pazcoe]

I had a discussion (if you can call it that) on a forum I have used for about 10 years and I was amazed to find that people judged me for stating Japan was a proud racial group and I hoped they pulled through it.

I tried talking to these same people and saying that the reactor issues and meltdown from the radiation was 100X worse the Chernobyl and even if they judged Japanese people with some hatred (because of war etc) they had to see the bigger picture because this radiation can travel in a jet stream which travels around the world, this radiation has a shelf life of 4 BILLION years.

This radiation can contaminate crops the world over and the Japanese media forgot to mention that the second reactor explosion launched "spent fuel rods" (used rods) into the air and many of those went into the sea. The main stream media also forgot to mention that over 600thousand of these rods (40 years worth of old used rods) are stored here and some of them contain 7% Plutonium and 93% Uranium.

The earthquake was a Japanese problem, the Tsunami a Japanese problem but this isn't a Japanese problem now we are faced with radiation. It is also worth noting that the health surveys stated that 1 million people died worldwide as a result of the Chernobyl fallout. It is also not quite as funny that today when my partner asked the taxi driver "how long before you think the radiation will reach Europe" he said "It can't get to Europe"

Anyone here in Russia will know how bad this is because the Russians have been buying radiation meters, and the Canadian and America health stores are sold out of Iodine & iodate products with people running around trying to find seaweed.

Let me also say that when people wonder why Japan would build these so close to water the answer is in the question. They need to be near an unlimited supply of water. Why build them near a fault line? Japan itself is basically a fault line. They don't produce coal or oil and so they had no choice. Now we will have all those tree hugging left wingers claiming nuclear is still safe and we have nothing to worry about. I say I am well aware of the damage caused by coal but if we have a earthquake or a Tsunami we don't cause radioactive meltdown.

No looting, and a nation really keeping it together. Now cutturally todays Japan has some weird habits to say the least but like I said I am really worried that most European people seem to think this is just about Japanese people dying but the fact this could be 100 times or 1000 times as bad as Chernobyl and the fact that Chernobyl killed 1 million we are facing the biggest disaster in ALL OF OUR lifetimes.

As for the media, we can't trust them to tell the truth. When they said the wall had blown in fact 3000+ rods had blown apart. When they admitted reactor 3 (second explosion) they said some of the chamber "may have been breached" but in fact 7000 rods had been blown apart and many fell into the sea. Radiation will now affect fish, diary and may well spread across the pacific in large doses on its first rounds destroying 70& of North Americas productivity. This is absolutly massive and far too many people within Europe are not preparing themselves.

Lets just hope that the Japanese can remain honourable and filled with courage because as I tried to explain to some of my "friends" they may not care what happens to the Japanese but the amount of Radiation that arrived into Europe and circles us for 4 Billion years depends on the bravery and courage of a few Japanese who will have to give their life for the safety of not only their people but ours also.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

I think most of us realize that the problems with the Fukushima reactors are huge and that will have an enormous impact on humans, animals and the environment.
The difference here is that we are following it happen and people behave as preemptive and proactive as they can, while the Chernobyl accident came out several days later after a number of European nations had measured elevated radioactivty and questioned Sovietunion about what the fuck's going on.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

They way Japanese society works.. is basically to pretend everything is OK. The last thing you want to do is "lose your face" or be ashamed.



Losing face is horrible. Almost worse than death.

[Sturmgewehr]

I tried talking to these same people and saying that the reactor issues and meltdown from the radiation was 100X worse the Chernobyl and even if they judged Japanese people with some hatred (because of war etc) they had to see the bigger picture because this radiation can travel in a jet stream which travels around the world, this radiation has a shelf life of 4 BILLION years.



I think u r exaggerating a bit.

I heard some experts of Nuclear energy and stuff like that in CNN and they said it is not as bad as Chernobyl.

Plus if this Radiation thing was that bad then all those Nuclear Probes in the Pacific done by the 50s, 60s would have destroyed humanity.

100X worse than Chernobyl???? come on, let's kill ourselves from now.