Which ethnicity is more likely to score everything on a DNA test?

[Methuselah]

Do Iranians, Kurds and Roma usually score "every part of the world"? This would include East Asian/ Native American (Native American seems to show up as Asian very often), European, West Asian/ Middle Eastern (let's put them together), South Asian and African (SSA/ North African).
This is very simplified of course, but those very mixed South Americans probably lack South Asian. So who is the best candidate for being linked to every part of the world?

[Bosniensis]

as for europeans it's balkan people

take a look at my k15 components

North_Sea 16.37
Atlantic 15.64
Baltic 17.93
Eastern_Euro 13.35
West_Med 12.62
West_Asian 8.08
East_Med 11.81

xD xD

[Livin]

Gypsies!!!

[Jana]

My boyfriend does.

[curiousdude10]

Mestizos and gypsies for sure, they're very mixed.

[LoLeL]

Mexicans, Iranians

[Bosniensis]

Gypsies!!!

they are diverse and located on many places you are right.

[Jana]

Gypsies lack amerindian admixture, so no.

[Livin]

Gypsies lack amerindian admixture, so no.

Lucky armenidians...

[LoLeL]

My boyfriend does.

Does he score SSA and Australoid/Onge admixtures?

[Methuselah]

as for europeans it's balkan people

take a look at my k15 components

North_Sea 16.37
Atlantic 15.64
Baltic 17.93
Eastern_Euro 13.35
West_Med 12.62
West_Asian 8.08
East_Med 11.81

xD xD

Nice 8) Balkan people seem to be very mixed, but i'm not sure if they usually score any South Asian or North African...

[Jana]

Does he score SSA and Australoid/Onge admixtures?

He gets South Asian always, not SSA, but on FTDNA he does. Btw, he has no Gypsy ancestry, I checked with somebody who is specialised for Roma admixture on another forum.
his updated FTNDA results

probably African is noise (lot of Europeans get it for some reason), but the rest is not

[Livin]

Nice 8) Balkan people seem to be very mixed, but i'm not sure if they usually score any South Asian or North African...

South asia not really but some of them scoring North African i think especially the greeks.

[Methuselah]

My boyfriend does.

Your boyfriend got "everything" except African i guess, right? Some bits of East Asian/ South Asian too?

[Jana]

Your boyfriend got "everything" except African i guess, right? Some bits of East Asian/ South Asian too?

Check his FTDNA :D
On gedmatch he gets no African, but on FTDNA 1%

[Jana]

South Asian in Stears is coming from Tatar-like admixture according to man who analyised his data. For some reason South Asian ancestry is present in Volga-Ural region, probably some ancient steppe link :)

[Bosniensis]

South asia not really but some of them scoring North African i think especially the greeks.

That's reasonable...

Africa was always interesting territory for Greeks and Romans.

[Iloko]

Anglo-Caribbeans

Edit: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?4282-Anglo-Caribbeans-23andMe-Results

[Livin]

That's reasonable...

Africa was always interesting territory for Greeks and Romans.

Egypt was in macedonia rule back in the days so its not impossible!!!

[Methuselah]

That's reasonable...

Africa was always interesting territory for Greeks and Romans.

A bit of North African seems to be present in Greece, but i wonder if Bulgarians or Turks have it too. They have some Asian what Greeks don't have as far as i know...

[Methuselah]

Anglo-Carribeans

What do they know about East Asia? We need some of that too.

[Methuselah]

Egypt was in macedonia rule back in the days so its not impossible!!!

Maybe it has something to do with the Phoenicians?

[Livin]

Maybe it has something to do with the Phoenicians?

Yes,they have trade with them also!!!

[Gangrel]

Modern day Tajiks would probably be good candidates. West Asian, East Asian, South Asian and North Asian + Baltic and Eastern European a lot of the time.

[Pubiczar]

Nice 8) Balkan people seem to be very mixed, but i'm not sure if they usually score any South Asian or North African...

South Asian not, unless they have some Gypsy blood.
However, the North African is present.
This are mine:

Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.05
2 North_Atlantic 21.34
3 Baltic 21.03
4 West_Med 18.47
5 West_Asian 10.96
6 Red_Sea 4.71
7 Amerindian 1.06
8 Oceanian 0.25
9 Northeast_African 0.12

[LoLeL]

Modern day Tajiks would probably be good candidates. West Asian, East Asian, South Asian and North Asian + Baltic and Eastern European a lot of the time.

If they lack SSA , then they are not good candidates. They are only good as representation of Eurasia and Eurasian background.

[Methuselah]

Modern day Tajiks would probably be good candidates. West Asian, East Asian, South Asian and North Asian + Baltic and Eastern European a lot of the time.

They come close yes, but they lack any African... This girl seems to have it all, very possibly South Asian too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcsKAySR00

[gıulıoımpa]

Gipsies emigrated to the new world. there were some in Brazil and any ancestry between them and a local mestizo will probably give everything possible

[Methuselah]

South Asian not, unless they have some Gypsy blood.
However, the North African is present.
This are mine:

Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.05
2 North_Atlantic 21.34
3 Baltic 21.03
4 West_Med 18.47
5 West_Asian 10.96
6 Red_Sea 4.71
7 Amerindian 1.06
8 Oceanian 0.25
9 Northeast_African 0.12

Thanks! 8) Yeah, seems like there is a bit of North African too. Maybe Roma/ Persians are the best candidates right now to "have it all". Not sure how people mix in Suriname. They seem to be a very diverse group.

[Petalpusher]

South America of course, Euro, SSA, Amerindian (therefore also E.Asian). They only lack the S.Asian/Australoid to make it the perfect melting pot of every groups of this planet.

[Methuselah]

South America of course, Euro, SSA, Amerindian (therefore also E.Asian). They only lack the S.Asian/Australoid to make it the perfect melting pot of every groups of this planet.

This is the problem. We need some Middle Eastern and South Asian too. Not sure how people mix in countries like Suriname, but they seem to have some mixed Jews and Lebanese. Still, pretty rare mix probably.

[Mortimer]

Do Iranians, Kurds and Roma usually score "every part of the world"? This would include East Asian/ Native American (Native American seems to show up as Asian very often), European, West Asian/ Middle Eastern (let's put them together), South Asian and African (SSA/ North African).
This is very simplified of course, but those very mixed South Americans probably lack South Asian. So who is the best candidate for being linked to every part of the world?

gypsies score only european and southasian or southasian european and middle eastern sometimes (depeds on the calculator sometimes the middle eastern is in the southasian sometimes its seperate somehow) and no east asian or SSA or native american, so no its not gypsies. i dont know if someone scores "everything in the world"

https://s22.postimg.cc/4ni9tuuvl/Mirsad_Results.jpg

[Kriptc06]

Do Iranians, Kurds and Roma usually score "every part of the world"? This would include East Asian/ Native American (Native American seems to show up as Asian very often), European, West Asian/ Middle Eastern (let's put them together), South Asian and African (SSA/ North African).
This is very simplified of course, but those very mixed South Americans probably lack South Asian. So who is the best candidate for being linked to every part of the world?
wrong! you need to meet guyanese people,the british brought indians to work there, they are mixed with everything latin americans are plus indian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Guyanese

[Carlito's Way]

Guyanese

[MercifulServant]

Turks

[skain]

Belize.

[Prettydambrittish]

Population Percentage
Nilotic Omotic 0.31%
Ancestral South Indian 0.87%
North European Baltic 28.80%
Uralic 0.37%
Australo Melanesian 0.27%
East Siberian 0.00%
Ancestral Yayoi 0.00%
Caucasian Near Eastern 9.94%
Tibeto Burman 0.00%
Austronesian 0.48%
Central African Pygmean 0.01%
Central African Hunter Gatherers 0.01%
Nilo Saharan 0.01%
North African 0.00%
Gedrosia Caucasian 11.83%
Cushitic 0.69%
Congo Pygmean 0.58%
Bushmen 0.01%
South Meso Amerindian 1.48%
South West European 33.24%
North Amerindian 0.00%
Arabic 2.75%
North Circumpolar 0.00%
Kalash 1.07%
Papuan Australian 0.57%
Baltic Finnic 6.24%
Bantu 0.55%

[alnortedelsur]

Mixed Latin Americans, including myself.

I'm heavily Euro, but I also score some Amerindian, SSA, Middle East, North African, and even East Asian (the last one depending on the calculator).

[Carlito's Way]

colonial mexicans are top contenders too, here is an example

http://i.imgur.com/plLLRuE.jpg

[8888]

South American mongrels or recent mongrels being produced in USA/Canada. In the future these two countries will be as mixed as South America.

[ovidiu]

gypsies score only european and southasian or southasian european and middle eastern sometimes (depeds on the calculator sometimes the middle eastern is in the southasian sometimes its seperate somehow) and no east asian or SSA or native american, so no its not gypsies. i dont know if someone scores "everything in the world"

https://s22.postimg.cc/4ni9tuuvl/Mirsad_Results.jpg

Incorrect, a decent amount of Roma have partial Turko-Turanid influences. In fact some were partially brought to Europe as slaves of Turko-Mongols. It's just that the majority of them don't get genetic tests.

[Methuselah]

Incorrect, a decent amount of Roma have partial Turko-Turanid influences. In fact some were partially brought to Europe as slaves of Turko-Mongols. It's just that the majority of them don't get genetic tests.

I heard that a lot of Roma mixed with people from Caucasus...

[Methuselah]

gypsies score only european and southasian or southasian european and middle eastern sometimes (depeds on the calculator sometimes the middle eastern is in the southasian sometimes its seperate somehow) and no east asian or SSA or native american, so no its not gypsies. i dont know if someone scores "everything in the world"

https://s22.postimg.cc/4ni9tuuvl/Mirsad_Results.jpg

Well this girl seems to have it all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcsKAySR00

[Methuselah]

Turks

Maybe Kurds are more likely to have some South Asian?

[Methuselah]

wrong! you need to meet guyanese people,the british brought indians to work there, they are mixed with everything latin americans are plus indian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Guyanese

Well i mentioned Surinamese but not them. Thank you for letting me know. I was actually thinking about Persians or some South Americans to be the best contenders. But i wasn't sure if Indo-Guyanese or Indo-Surinamese usually have any middle eastern in them...

[LoLeL]

Maybe Kurds are more likely to have some South Asian?

South Asian admixture exist in both of them. You should look for SSA:

http://i62.tinypic.com/kbadzm.png

[Mortimer]

Incorrect, a decent amount of Roma have partial Turko-Turanid influences. In fact some were partially brought to Europe as slaves of Turko-Mongols. It's just that the majority of them don't get genetic tests.

they have not more turko-turanid influence then romanians or hungarians or serbs. thats nonsense. turks conquered the whole balkans.

[Pubiczar]

they have not more turko-turanid influence then romanians or hungarians or serbs. thats nonsense. turks conquered the whole balkans.

Your logical thinking is close to zero.
Do you imply that just because the Turks ruled the Balkans for so long, we all have a turko-mongol blood?
Our ancestors didn't mix with Turks, primary because they are Muslims.
Secondly, unlike you Gypsies, the Turks are organised bunch and had a highly organised empire where most of the crimes such as rapes, during peaceful times, were punished.
Not to even mention that many people from the Balkans have already done an ancestry test and have posted their results on this forum.
Hardly any of them have any turko-mongol ancestry.
I am not sure about you though...
Post your Eurogenes K13 and other Gypsies results so we can judge...

[Mortimer]

Your logical thinking is close to zero.
Do you imply that just because the Turks ruled the Balkans for so long, we all have a turko-mongol blood?
Our ancestors didn't mix with Turks, primary because they are Muslims.
Secondly, unlike you Gypsies, the Turks are organised bunch and had a highly organised empire where most of the crimes such as rapes, during peaceful times, were punished.
Not to even mention that many people from the Balkans have already done an ancestry test and have posted their results on this forum.
Hardly any of them have any turko-mongol ancestry.
I am not sure about you though...
Post your Eurogenes K13 and other Gypsies results so we can judge...

I posted gypsy results and my results

[Joso]

Gipsies emigrated to the new world. there were some in Brazil and any ancestry between them and a local mestizo will probably give everything possible

Yes that is true, probably an already very mixed Brazilian mixed with Brazilian gipsy would score everything

[Myanthropologies]

South Asians probably. Punjabis are basically 1/4 North European, >2/4 West Asian, and the last <1/4 is divided between Onge, East Asian, and sometimes even SSA for some people.

[Mortimer]

South American mongrels or recent mongrels being produced in USA/Canada. In the future these two countries will be as mixed as South America.


South Asians probably. Punjabis are basically 1/4 North European, >2/4 West Asian, and the last <1/4 is divided between Onge, East Asian, and sometimes even SSA for some people.

Same as afghans just with a bit less onge

[Mortimer]

Well this girl seems to have it all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcsKAySR00

I have all too if you count loke 0.1 percent but i dont only more then 5 because otherwise most people would have it all including many europeans

[Kriptc06]

Well i mentioned Surinamese but not them. Thank you for letting me know. I was actually thinking about Persians or some South Americans to be the best contenders. But i wasn't sure if Indo-Guyanese or Indo-Surinamese usually have any middle eastern in them...

probrably very little. most latin americans score aroun 1-4% mena

[Methuselah]

I have all too if you count loke 0.1 percent but i dont only more then 5 because otherwise most people would have it all including many europeans

You probably don't have east asian and north african if i remember right... I think 0.1 is not enough :D 1-2 % could be...

[Larali]

I would say Americans?

[Mortimer]

You probably don't have east asian and north african if i remember right... I think 0.1 is not enough :D 1-2 % could be...

I have 0.1 east asian and 0.6 northafrican and 0.4 westafrican

[Methuselah]

I have 0.1 east asian and 0.6 northafrican and 0.4 westafrican

So we have 1% combined now. Can you somehow squeeze a bit more east asian out of your dna test man? ;)

[Myanthropologies]

Same as afghans just with a bit less onge

Afghans have more East Asian (especially Tajiks) and not onge, I would say, and have little to no SSA.

[Methuselah]

Afghans have more East Asian (especially Tajiks) and not onge, I would say, and have little to no SSA.

You seem to have it all? Or do Persians (Kurds, Azerbaijani, Iranian) usually score any North African? I'm sure many of them have everything else...

[Myanthropologies]

You seem to have it all? Or do Persians (Kurds, Azerbaijani, Iranian) usually score any North African? I'm sure many of them have everything else...

I have like 1% of East African in me. Could be Ethiopian ancestry from the slave trade, but I'm not sure. I dont get any North African in me though. Azerbaijani and Afghans tend to be more East Asian admixed, while Persians and Kurds more North African and Arabian admixed.

[Methuselah]

I have like 1% of East African in me. Could be Ethiopian ancestry from the slave trade, but I'm not sure. I dont get any North African in me though. Azerbaijani and Afghans tend to be more East Asian admixed, while Persians and Kurds more North African and Arabian admixed.

Wow, interesting. If we forget about South America, which ethnicity do you think has the best chance to score it all on a dna test? Kurds and Persians?

[LoLeL]

I have like 1% of East African in me. Could be Ethiopian ancestry from the slave trade, but I'm not sure. I dont get any North African in me though. Azerbaijani and Afghans tend to be more East Asian admixed, while Persians and Kurds more North African and Arabian admixed.

It's not East Asian, it's East Eurasian and it's not limited to Mongoloid:


East Eurasian = anything from Mongoloid + Ancestral_South_Indian or + Negrito/Onge-Andamanese/Australoid-Papuan component

West Eurasian = Anything from Caucasus/CaucasusHunterGatherer ..to European component .. or Middle Eastern /Caucasian/Europid

[Leto]

It's not East Asian, it's East Eurasian and it's not limited to Mongoloid:
South Asian is not East Eurasian.

[LoLeL]

South Asian is not East Eurasian.

Yes, it is. Read that thread.

[Petalpusher]

This is the problem. We need some Middle Eastern and South Asian too. Not sure how people mix in countries like Suriname, but they seem to have some mixed Jews and Lebanese. Still, pretty rare mix probably.

Ok but middle eastern is still mostly Eurasian, S.Asian too with some Onge like admixture. If you want to consider something that looks like races, then it's just W.Eurasian, SSA, E.Asian, Australoid, and maybe Amerindian. Everything else aren't that much apart, or intermediates.

[Methuselah]

Ok but middle eastern is still mostly Eurasian, S.Asian too with some Onge like admixture. If you want to consider something that looks like races, then it's just W.Eurasian, SSA, E.Asian, Australoid, and maybe Amerindian. Everything else aren't that much apart, or intermediates.

A good point yeah. But i was going for culture related things too... Like Middle Eastern, South Asian, East Asian. Which is super black and white of course, but still.

[Mortimer]

Afghans have more East Asian (especially Tajiks) and not onge, I would say, and have little to no SSA.

afghans have 7-11% Onge or ASE/ASI

[Myanthropologies]

afghans have 7-11% Onge or ASE/ASI

Pashtuns have 7-11% ASI (most ha, but other afghan ethnic groups have a lot of East Asian instead (Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens, and some Tajiks).


Also, Im very curious about what "Onge" was. We do know that ASI was half caucasoid and half non caucasoid, but the non caucasoid part still remains a mystery. We know that out of all modern populations, Australian Aborignees were the closest to the non caucasoid part of it. However, they are still really far off and a bad fit. So, the non caucasoid part is like some mysterious "ghost population" basically.

[Mortimer]

Pashtuns have 7-11% ASI (most ha, but other afghan ethnic groups have a lot of East Asian instead (Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens, and some Tajiks).


Also, Im very curious about what "Onge" was. We do know that ASI was half caucasoid and half non caucasoid, but the non caucasoid part still remains a mystery. We know that out of all modern populations, Australian Aborignees were the closest to the non caucasoid part of it. However, they are still really far off and a bad fit. So, the non caucasoid part is like some mysterious "ghost population" basically.

I agree.

[LoLeL]

Pashtuns have 7-11% ASI (most ha, but other afghan ethnic groups have a lot of East Asian instead (Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens, and some Tajiks).


Also, Im very curious about what "Onge" was. We do know that ASI was half caucasoid and half non caucasoid, but the non caucasoid part still remains a mystery. We know that out of all modern populations, Australian Aborignees were the closest to the non caucasoid part of it. However, they are still really far off and a bad fit. So, the non caucasoid part is like some mysterious "ghost population" basically.

How did you reach that conclusion? It either is Australoid-like or Onge-like population. The dark skin and some other physical traits of South Asians didn't come from the space.

Again, limiting your East Eurasian admixture to Mongoloids (in your logic East Asians like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean :lol00001:) is bullshit. Writing fantasy stuff like "ghost population" is even worse. Just because you don't like Australoids and Onge, it does not mean you lack their admixture. Deal with it.

[Leto]

How did you reach that conclusion? It either is Australoid-like or Onge-like population. The dark skin and some other physical traits of South Asians didn't come from the space.

Again, limiting your East Eurasian admixture to Mongoloids (in your logic East Asians like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean :lol00001:) is bullshit. Writing fantasy stuff like "ghost population" is even worse. Just because you don't like Australoids and Onge, it does not mean you lack their admixture. Deal with it.
Australia is not Eurasia. They are a whole different race ans genetically very different from the East Asians.

[Bloody]

Guess Venezuelans/Colombian/NE Brazilian trirracials who score roughtly 1/3 European 1/3 SSA 1/3 NA (Mongoloid)

[x54xx]

How did you reach that conclusion? It either is Australoid-like or Onge-like population. The dark skin and some other physical traits of South Asians didn't come from the space.

Again, limiting your East Eurasian admixture to Mongoloids (in your logic East Asians like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean :lol00001:) is bullshit. Writing fantasy stuff like "ghost population" is even worse. Just because you don't like Australoids and Onge, it does not mean you lack their admixture. Deal with it.

Dark skin of South Asians doesn't come from Australoids or Onges, genius. They've always been dark skinned, even when Europeans, Mongoloids, Amerindians, and Africans were eating each other for breakfast.

Take Rabindranath Tagore for example, or Gandhiji, or Subhash Chandra Bose.

[LoLeL]

Australia is not Eurasia. They are a whole different race ans genetically very different from the East Asians.

DUDE

Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid

Who said Australia?! It's Australoid and it exists in Asia. Seriously if you still don't agree with my definition of "East Eurasian", then this the best solution for you:

1. Go to anthrogenica.com
2. Register an account
3. Open a thread with and ask "What are West and East Eurasian components in genetic admixture" or "What is East Eurasian admixture"
4. Post sourced answers here

The End :lips:

[Mortimer]

Australia is not Eurasia. They are a whole different race ans genetically very different from the East Asians.

Australia is Out-Of-Africa. Eurasia but specifically South East Euroasia. They also cluster with East Euroasians and Native Americans. They are South Eurosians then there are East Euroasians and there are Western Euro Asians, but all are Euroasians. And there is SSA. Those are the two basic humanic groups.

https://s22.postimg.cc/8pww9v9yp/Interpretome_Hapmap_World.jpg

https://s22.postimg.cc/dpuchakkx/Interpretome_HDGPWorld.jpg

[LoLeL]

Dark skin of South Asians doesn't come from Australoids or Onges, genius. They've always been dark skinned, even when Europeans, Mongoloids, Amerindians, and Africans were eating each other for breakfast.

Take Rabindranath Tagore for example, or Gandhiji, or Subhash Chandra Bose.

ROSS/FRACTAL #1234567890... Boy, why do you always expose yourself too soon? Indians mated with native Australoids and Onge-like population of South Asia. It's a scientific fact. Proved by genetic studies.

Most modern people dropped their backward and primitive stuff but It's Indians who still practice open defecation and follow a retarded religion like Hinduism. Never forget India is the heaven of rapists.

[Mortimer]

How did you reach that conclusion? It either is Australoid-like or Onge-like population. The dark skin and some other physical traits of South Asians didn't come from the space.

Again, limiting your East Eurasian admixture to Mongoloids (in your logic East Asians like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean :lol00001:) is bullshit. Writing fantasy stuff like "ghost population" is even worse. Just because you don't like Australoids and Onge, it does not mean you lack their admixture. Deal with it.

He is right. Reich himself wrote ASI are the closest to living Adaman Islanders but not the same, this shouldnt be mistaken though. They diverged, caucasoids and mongoloids are similar too more similar then to SSA but they are very different. ASI are not Onge or Australian but native Southasians, but a population close to them. But since ONGE and ABOS and PAPUANS look themselfes so different from eatch other its legit to assume ASI might had a own distinct look from those 3 too.

[Leto]

DUDE

Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid
Australoid

Who said Australia?! It's Australoid and it exists in Asia. Seriously if you still don't agree with my definition of "East Eurasian", then this the best solution for you:

1. Go to anthrogenica.com
2. Register an account
3. Open a thread with and ask "What are West and East Eurasian components in genetic admixture" or "What is East Eurasian admixture"
4. Post sourced answers here

The End :lips:
I'm already on Anthrogenica. But still you can't tell me Mongs and Australoids are the same race.

[LoLeL]

He is right. Reich himself wrote ASI are the closest to living Adaman Islanders but not the same, this shouldnt be mistaken though. They diverged, caucasoids and mongoloids are similar too more similar then to SSA but they are very different. ASI are not Onge or Australian but native Southasians, but a population close to them. But since ONGE and ABOS and PAPUANS look themselfes so different from eatch other its legit to assume ASI might had a own distinct look from those 3 too.

Australoid, Onge, Blackoid, Darkoid,... in the end, all of them were/are dark-skinned non-Caucasoid groups. This is the reason why he and that Afghan member can't accept it and prefer denialism and made-up stories to scientific data.

Anyway I'm done with this thread. Too much cool stories here. Keep them for yourselves. Thanks.

[Mortimer]

Australoid, Onge, Blackoid, Darkoid,... in the end, all of them were/are dark-skinned non-Caucasoid groups. This is the reason why he and that Afghan member can't accept it and prefer denialism and made-up stories to scientific data.

Anyway I'm done with this thread. Too much cool stories here. Keep them for yourselves. Thanks.

But you can talk to me. I dont deny anything. They likely had a dark skin. But maybe they looked different then abos or onges. Nothing wrong with that. Onge and Abos dont look alike either.

[LoLeL]

I'm already on Anthrogenica. But still you can't tell me Mongs and Australoids are the same race.

:picard1:
When did I say that?! You misunderstood the whole conversion, I can't help you anymore.

Go and learn something from those anthrogenica guys. Am I wrong about East Eurasian admixture? Then prove it by posting a new thread with the scientific definition and some articles. Good luck!

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[itilvolga]

Kurds probably. Without a homeland, they have visited the whole world to live somewhere after all xD

[ovidiu]

they have not more turko-turanid influence then romanians or hungarians or serbs. thats nonsense. turks conquered the whole balkans.

I wasn't talking about the Ottoman Empire; that had almost nothing to do with them. I mean earlier when gypsies were still in West Asia, they likely interacted with Seljuks or Mongols in the Ilkhanate, and it is recorded that some were taken slaves, and sold around, with some ending up in the Balkans. By the way I'm not saying this as some kind of insult, not that I see why it should be taken that way. I could be wrong but that's what I've seen from reading on the topic.

[Mortimer]

I wasn't talking about the Ottoman Empire; that had almost nothing to do with them. I mean earlier when gypsies were still in West Asia, they likely interacted with Seljuks or Mongols in the Ilkhanate, and it is recorded that some were taken slaves, and sold around, with some ending up in the Balkans. By the way I'm not saying this as some kind of insult, not that I see why it should be taken that way. I could be wrong but that's what I've seen from reading on the topic.

im not taking any dna as insult just correct you, gypsies have minimal east asian in the noise range blow a percent. i said that and nothing wrong with that. everything else is speculation, i could also say there were mongols, avars, huns, turks etc. in balkans and black mercenerasies etc. and speculate that you have the mixture, just like you speculate.

[Chaos One]

I think people from Guyana/Suriname can have a Indo/Native American/SSA/White mix. Could be hard, but not impossible. With that they would probably get something at all possible scores.