View Full Version : Post Eurogenes K36 & K12 Volga Ural %
Kriptc06
06-10-2018, 08:19 PM
Volga-Ural 2.27
https://i.imgur.com/7pLVMLX.jpg
source: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?11965-K36-Unified-Map-of-Elements&p=285698
Volga-Ural 1.46% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural 14.04% on Eurogenes K12
it'd be more interesting to see both scores
my K12 Volga-Ural 4.35
Profileid
06-10-2018, 08:22 PM
Sounds exotic, I get noise levels though
Volga-Ural 0.39
Prettydambrittish
06-10-2018, 08:23 PM
Volga Ural 1.26%
Kriptc06
06-10-2018, 08:28 PM
Sounds exotic, I get noise levels though
Volga-Ural 0.39
posted a map above :)
Not bad 1.52
In K12: 3.23
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
06-10-2018, 08:33 PM
Viriato: 0%
Mrs. Viriato: 0%
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
06-10-2018, 08:36 PM
This is a Mongoloid component, right?
de Burgh II
06-10-2018, 08:39 PM
Volga-Ural - (0%)
Kriptc06
06-10-2018, 08:41 PM
This is a Mongoloid component, right?
I think so, It seams to be turkic, maybe not entirely mongoloid but part of it yes.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
06-10-2018, 08:43 PM
I think so, It seams to be turkic, maybe not entirely mongoloid but part of it yes.
Yeah, I thought so. East Asian\Volga-Ural\Siberian are the Mongoloid components on K36.
Nurzat
06-10-2018, 08:45 PM
Volga-Ural 1.46% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural 14.04% on Eurogenes K12
it'd be more interesting to see both scores
Impaler
06-10-2018, 08:45 PM
Volga-Ural - 0% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural - 4.48% on Eurogenes K12
Ajeje Brazorf
06-10-2018, 09:05 PM
Chuvash Z099245
Eurogenes K36: Volga-Ural 100%
Eurogenes K12: Volga-Ural 83.77%, Siberian 12.57%, East Asian 1.98%, North Amerindian + Arctic 1.50%, Southwest Asian 0.10%, West African 0.09%
Kriptc06
06-10-2018, 09:06 PM
Chuvash Z099245
Eurogenes K36: Volga-Ural 100%
Eurogenes K12: Volga-Ural 83.77%, Siberian 12.57%, East Asian 1.98%, North Amerindian + Arctic 1.50%, Southwest Asian 0.10%, West African 0.09%
Awesome! thanks for sharing!
happycow
06-10-2018, 09:08 PM
0% on both k36 and k12
Ritz06
06-10-2018, 10:43 PM
Eurogenes k12: 5.59
Eurogenes k36: 0.35
7eleven
06-10-2018, 10:50 PM
Eurogenes k36: 0.35%
Eurogenes k12: 6.38%
Profileid
06-11-2018, 02:49 AM
Sounds exotic, I get noise levels though
Volga-Ural 0.39
6.94 on k12
firemonkey
06-11-2018, 03:00 AM
K36: 0.59
K12: 7.73
Father: K36: 0
K12: 6.43
frankhammer
06-11-2018, 03:28 AM
K12 Volga-Ural 7.47
K36 Volga-Ural 0
Not a Cop
06-11-2018, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I thought so. East Asian\Volga-Ural\Siberian are the Mongoloid components on K36.
Volga-Ural is not entirely Mongloid, it's based on Chuvashes as far as i know, who are only 20% East-Asian.
I wonder what's the difference between K36 and K12. I get a bit on both while most of you 0 in K36 and up to 9 on K12.
Stears has high score, as expected :)
Volga-Ural 12.97
Volga-Ural 1.45
mine
Volga-Ural 8.05
On K36 0%
TheMaestro
06-11-2018, 11:58 PM
K36 - Volga-Ural - 0%
K12 Volga-Ural 8.49
Longbowman
06-12-2018, 12:25 AM
Me: 0 + 0.38 = 0.38
Me gf: 1.46 + 4.51 = 5.97
Me dad: 0.23 + 1.81 = 2.04
Me mum: 0.63 + 0 = 0.63
oszkar07
06-12-2018, 12:57 AM
k12 = Volga-Ural 12.16
k36 = Volga-Ural 1.07
Nurzat
06-12-2018, 12:11 PM
Stears has high score, as expected :)
Volga-Ural 12.97
Volga-Ural 1.45
me (Bucovina region):
Volga-Ural 1.46% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural 14.04% on Eurogenes K12
Romanian friend from the northeast of Moldova region:
Volga-Ural 0.08% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural 11.28% on Eurogenes K12
Romanian friend from central Moldova region:
Volga-Ural 2.00% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural 12.61% on Eurogenes K12
I am curious how southern Romanians score, maybe the ones on TA will share. by these numbers Ukrainians should be at some 16 to 20%
Volga-Ural - 0% on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural - 7.12% on Eurogenes K12
Lehel
06-12-2018, 01:25 PM
K36 0.38%
K12 8.22
Pahli
06-12-2018, 01:54 PM
K12: Volga-Ural 4.41
K36: Volga-Ural -
Deniz
06-13-2018, 01:38 PM
Me
K36-3.76
K12-10.10
Father
K36-4.92
K12-10.92
Mother
K36-1.85
K12-9.59
Maternal Grandfather
K36-1.93
K12-10.27
Kriptc06
06-13-2018, 01:47 PM
Me
K36-3.76
K12-10.10
Father
K36-4.92
K12-10.92
Mother
K36-1.85
K12-9.59
Maternal Grandfather
K36-1.93
K12-10.27
I think my 2.27 in K36 prove my grandma was really part turkic :thumb001:
How you doin bro?
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
06-13-2018, 01:55 PM
Volga-Ural on K36 and K12 are obviously not the same components.
Kriptc06
06-28-2018, 10:34 PM
Volga-Ural on K36 and K12 are obviously not the same components.
yeah I agree but Idk what is their reference
GreentheViper
06-28-2018, 11:25 PM
K12 : 8.07
K36: 1.72
Deniz
07-01-2018, 01:02 PM
I think my 2.27 in K36 prove my grandma was really part turkic :thumb001:
How you doin bro?
Your babushka Gagauz?I remember.:)Fine bro ı have so much works these days.You?
Kriptc06
07-01-2018, 01:49 PM
Your babushka Gagauz?I remember.:)Fine bro ı have so much works these days.You?
yes! people always tell me they are exactly the same as balkan people, I think not. I've been a bit busy too, and I'm not here as often, but I'm all right too
Meerkat
07-01-2018, 01:56 PM
K36: 1.83
K12: 3.79
Impaler
07-01-2018, 02:12 PM
Volga-Ural - 4.48%
visar
07-01-2018, 02:52 PM
k36-0%
k12-19,75%
Chaos One
07-05-2018, 03:00 AM
K12 - 2.60
K36 - 0.09
I think only K36 is somewhat Turkic, since many people get it at K12.
Kriptc06
07-05-2018, 03:25 AM
K12 - 2.60
K36 - 0.09
I think only K36 is somewhat Turkic, since many people get it at K12.
ye, I think so too. I'm proudly part mongol, the great Khan would be proud LOL
Norka
07-05-2018, 04:01 AM
K36- 5.44
K12- 21.51
Impaler
07-05-2018, 04:03 AM
K12 - 2.60
K36 - 0.09
I think only K36 is somewhat Turkic, since many people get it at K12.
Yes, you're right. I am 4.48% on K12. So I am more Turkic than you. :)
Lehel
07-05-2018, 08:14 AM
K36 : 0
K12 : 8.19
Astarte
07-05-2018, 09:28 AM
K36 Volga-Ural -
K12 Volga-Ural -
oszkar07
07-05-2018, 09:30 AM
k12 = Volga-Ural 12.16
k36 = Volga-Ural 1.07
magicalM
07-05-2018, 10:36 AM
Volga Ural
K36 - 0
K12 - 11.61
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Nanushka
07-05-2018, 03:27 PM
I think I have one of the highest :)
K12 - 13.37
K36 - 3.22
Krivich
07-16-2018, 11:30 AM
K36 Volga-Ural 2.30
Kaspias
07-16-2018, 11:42 AM
K12 - Volga-Ural 9.78
K36 - Volga-Ural 2.56
Krivich
07-16-2018, 11:53 AM
This is a Mongoloid component, right?
No. This component before the division of people into races.
RandomGuy20
07-16-2018, 12:11 PM
K36 - 1.16
K12 - 15.84
paradox
07-27-2018, 07:20 AM
K36 0
K12 8.19
Father's
K36 0.18
K12 8.24
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Natalie
07-27-2018, 10:40 PM
K36 0
K12 13.83
Duan
02-04-2019, 05:05 PM
I think I have one of the highest :)
K12 - 13.37
K36 - 3.22
Volga-Ural
Eurogenes K12: 15.16
Eurogenes K36: 4.34
I have found on other forum that Volga-Ural admixture (K36) is based on Chuvash population.
According to one theory, the Chuvash people may be descended from the Volga Bulgars.
So, proto-Bulgars brought this admixture to the Balkans? Or maybe proto-Magyars?
Egyvalaki
02-04-2019, 08:29 PM
k36: Volga-Ural 0.33 Pct
k12: Volga-Ural 8.51 Pct
nittionia
02-04-2019, 08:32 PM
Me: 6.74 Pct
My dad: 10.33 Pct
Cumansky
02-04-2019, 08:58 PM
Cumansky
K36 0
K12 15.90
Cousin
K36 1.20
K12 15.61
Mingle
02-04-2019, 09:06 PM
K36: 0%
K12: 8.19%
Thambi
02-04-2019, 09:18 PM
Eurogenes k36: 0%
Eurogenes k12: 2.36%
someonenotyou
02-05-2019, 05:41 AM
K36 0.78 Pct
k12 11.11 Pct
Pedro Ruben
03-11-2019, 10:51 PM
Volga-Ural - 0.86 % on Eurogenes K36
Volga-Ural - 4.63% on Eurogenes K12
Gwydion
08-06-2019, 10:00 PM
My mother:
K12: 13.42%
K36: 4.05
Which is utterly strange since we believed my mother to be German-Irish with minor English. It appears based on a multitude of matches she has with people of Volga German ancestry that one of our ancestors, likely before 1830ish, was out in the Volga. Question is if there was only one ancestor that is the source of these numbers and it was from the late 18th or early 19th century, how can it be so high?
In terms of the area of German settlement, it looks like the ethnic source would have to be near Saratov. Chuvash and Mordvins seem to be present in the area but perhaps not Mari, Udmurt, etc. as far as I know. So far through searching I've come across one Chuvash on Gedmatch she matches 13.0 cM and two Erzya, one at 9.0 cM and one at 8.7cM. Though it seems Chuvash/Mari have a much higher Volga-Ural component in K36 than Mordvins.
So does it look like I have some distant Chuvash ancestor or something?
Gwydion
08-06-2019, 10:12 PM
My mother:
K12: 13.42%
K36: 4.05
Which is utterly strange since we believed my mother to be German-Irish with minor English. It appears based on a multitude of matches she has with people of Volga German ancestry that one of our ancestors, likely before 1830ish, was out in the Volga. Question is if there was only one ancestor that is the source of these numbers and it was from the late 18th or early 19th century, how can it be so high?
In terms of the area of German settlement, it looks like the ethnic source would have to be near Saratov. Chuvash and Mordvins seem to be present in the area but perhaps not Mari, Udmurt, etc. as far as I know. So far through searching I've come across one Chuvash on Gedmatch she matches 13.0 cM and two Erzya, one at 9.0 cM and one at 8.7cM. Though it seems Chuvash/Mari have a much higher Volga-Ural component in K36 than Mordvins.
So does it look like I have some distant Chuvash ancestor or something?
I came across an old K36 spreadsheet I had saved and chose some populations to get an idea of the Volga-Ural components:
Ireland: 0
German_Volga: 0
Sweden: 0.66
Russian_Smolensk: 1.45
Finnish_East: 2.26
East Ukranian: 2.51
Russian_Tver: 2.57
Karelian: 3.13
Russian_Tambov: 3.77
Vepsian: 4.04
Russian_Vyatka: 5.93
Russian_Perm: 6.47
Erzya: 6.47
Moksha: 6.76
Komi: 9.23
Tatar_Volga: 9.45
Udmurt: 13.03
Chuvash: 26.02
Mari: 29.14
So based on the above, my mother, who is predominately Irish-German, scores higher than some modern Vepsians, Russians, Karelians, etc. and isn't far off from modern Mordvins. How can it be so high?
Lemgrant
08-06-2019, 10:13 PM
K36: Volga-Ural 3.90 Pct
K12: Volga-Ural 17.87 Pct
Annihilus
08-06-2019, 10:17 PM
K36: Volga-Ural 0.23 Pct
K12: Volga-Ural 4.37 Pct
ph2ter
08-06-2019, 10:40 PM
K36: 2.25
K12: 15
Coastal Elite
08-06-2019, 11:57 PM
K36 - Volga-Ural 1.07
K12 - Volga-Ural 5.15
Mehmet Udegey
08-08-2019, 04:23 PM
k36 0% :(
K12 5.74%
I'm fucking destroyed...
valera27
10-13-2019, 04:52 PM
Mine:
K36 - 2.90
K12 - 20.18
My grandfather (purest example of Southern Russian):
K36 - 0.00
K12 - 15.69
valera27
10-13-2019, 04:56 PM
My wife's grandmother (purest example of Central Russians - Yaroslavl):
K36 - 0.80
K12 - 17.27
Hapanuwa
10-13-2019, 05:00 PM
K36 Volga Ural: 1.97%
K12 Volga Ural: 5.51%
Art23
10-13-2019, 05:13 PM
My wife's grandmother (purest example of Central Russians - Yaroslavl):
K36 - 0.80
K12 - 17.27
I am not purest Ukrainian, but my results are similar. How? :confused:
K36 - 1.37
K12 - 16.26
WeirdLookingFellow
10-13-2019, 05:20 PM
K36 - 3.45 Pct
K12 - 9.38 Pct
Gf:
K36- 3.08 Pct
K12 - 9.37 Pct
PAGANE
10-13-2019, 05:38 PM
brother
k36- 0%
k12- 7.54%
me
k36- 0%
k12- 6.51%
mother
k36- 0%
k12- 5.58%
cousin
k36- 0,33%
k12- 6.69%
dududud
10-13-2019, 05:47 PM
Father:
K36 1.59
K12 5.83
Mother:
K36 0
K12 2.89
Me:
K36 1.08
K12 3.69
**JC**
10-14-2019, 12:44 AM
Me
K36 0
K12 7.26
Mother
K36 0
K12 6.57
valera27
10-14-2019, 06:03 PM
I am not purest Ukrainian, but my results are similar. How? :confused:
K36 - 1.37
K12 - 16.26
Higher in tread Polish man have same results. Because West-East Slavs are very similar too each other))
Looks like K36 component reflects real Volga-Ural vibes, but K12 component also contains part of IE ancestry.
altaic
10-14-2019, 11:00 PM
K36 - 0
K12 - 3.75
Lemgrant
12-07-2019, 04:25 PM
k36:
https://i.imgur.com/zuJwuVU.png
https://i.imgur.com/QL8vGlF.png
https://i.imgur.com/DerFMOx.png
xripkan
04-01-2020, 12:56 PM
K36:1.16
K12:4.97
InfamousAngel99
04-01-2020, 06:54 PM
Ancestry Kit:
K36: 0%
K12: 7.75%
23andMe Kit:
K36: 0%
K12: 7.38%
IceQueen
04-02-2020, 09:56 AM
K36: 0.44
K12: 9.22
Ion Basescul
04-02-2020, 03:16 PM
K36
Me: Volga-Ural 1.41
Mom: Volga-Ural 1.35
Dad: Volga-Ural 0.77
K12
Me: Volga-Ural 11.09
Mom: Volga-Ural 12.16
Dad: Volga-Ural 12.65
IrisSelene
04-03-2020, 01:03 AM
K36: Volga-Ural 2.83 Pct
K12: Volga-Ural 10.11 Pct
xripkan
04-03-2020, 03:35 PM
So does Volga-Ural at K36 indicate Finno-Ugric ancestry?
Rĉdwald
04-03-2020, 03:45 PM
AncestryDNA
K12 Volga-Ural 6.33 Pct
K36 Volga-Ural 0.40 Pct
23andMe
K12 Volga-Ural 6.35 Pct
K36 Volga-Ural 0.87 Pct
joanna_38
04-04-2020, 11:23 PM
K36
Volga-Ural -
K12
Volga-Ural 12.32 Pct
k36:
https://i.imgur.com/zuJwuVU.png
https://i.imgur.com/QL8vGlF.png
https://i.imgur.com/DerFMOx.png
Bump for Abriekman xD
Abriekman
11-15-2020, 02:06 PM
Bump for Abriekman xD
If we assume 1% of my 4% Volga Ural is from Polish, I have 3% from Russian, and my great grandparent had 25%? It is only normal for Mari and Chuvashes
If we assume 1% of my 4% Volga Ural is from Polish, I have 3% from Russian, and my great grandparent had 25%? It is only normal for Mari and Chuvashes
Nah, I don't think so. Just the result of recombination.
Abriekman
11-15-2020, 02:13 PM
Nah, I don't think so. Just the result of recombination.
I do not know. My family said my great grandmother was from Kamchatka, recently I got information from my relative my ancestor was from Altai Krai, I do not know which is true,if she was from Altai,maybe that Volga Ural is normal then
I do not know. My family said my great grandmother was from Kamchatka, recently I got information from my relative my ancestor was from Altai Krai, I do not know which is true,if she was from Altai,maybe that Volga Ural is normal then
I'm almost sure your grandma was a normal Siberian Russian. If she had been super mixed with native Siberians you you would have scored more East Eurasian. Even 1/8 Yakut or Buryat would be detectable on a genetic test.
Abriekman
11-15-2020, 03:35 PM
I'm almost sure your grandma was a normal Siberian Russian. If she had been super mixed with native Siberians you you would have scored more East Eurasian. Even 1/8 Yakut or Buryat would be detectable on a genetic test.
Yes of course, I am interested in high Ural, I do not have high East Asian or Siberian
Rĉdwald
11-15-2020, 03:37 PM
K36 - 0.40
K12 - 6.33
Abriekman
11-15-2020, 04:59 PM
I'm almost sure your grandma was a normal Siberian Russian. If she had been super mixed with native Siberians you you would have scored more East Eurasian. Even 1/8 Yakut or Buryat would be detectable on a genetic test.
How to know if my ancestor was admixed with Tatars or Mordovians? When I model myself, 6% of my Russian DNA is absorbed by Polish, so I think it is slavic, but other 6% are Tatar or Chuvash
How to know if my ancestor was admixed with Tatars or Mordovians? When I model myself, 6% of my Russian DNA is absorbed by Polish, so I think it is slavic, but other 6% are Tatar or Chuvash
I don't know. You are only ~20% Russian/East Slavic which is less than one quarter. I doubt you'll ever know the exact percentage, at this point we can only speculate. I'm certain she wasn't a full Chuvash or Tatar, maybe partially but even that cannot be proven.
WeirdLookingFellow
11-15-2020, 06:07 PM
Me:
K36 Volga-Ural 3.45 Pct
K12 Volga-Ural 9.38 Pct
Gf:
K36 Volga-Ural 3.08 Pct
K12 Volga-Ural 9.37 Pct
xripkan
11-15-2020, 06:26 PM
Based on the data it is seems unusual for a Southern Greek to score 1-1.5% Volga Ural. It is pure Finno-Ugric,right?
Abriekman
11-15-2020, 06:36 PM
Based on the data it is seems unusual for a Southern Greek to score 1-1.5% Volga Ural. It is pure Finno-Ugric,right?
Slavo-Turko-Finno-Ugric I think
Duan
11-15-2020, 06:44 PM
I have a lot of that
Volga-Ural
Eurogenes K12: 15.16
Eurogenes K36: 4.34
calxpal
11-15-2020, 06:45 PM
K36: 2.19
K12: 12.5
Chris596
11-15-2020, 06:52 PM
In contrast to my countrymen (and women), I'm not really Uralic... I even score more Malay xD
K36: Volga-Ural 0.01 Pct (lol)
K12: Volga-Ural 8.36 Pct
Polak
12-22-2020, 05:19 PM
K36
Volga-Ural - 3.02%
K12
Volga-Ural - 17.75%
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