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06-11-2018, 07:52 PM
Karitiana Native Americans from Brazil GEDmatch results. Interesting how the ANE is read as part Northern European by the calculator and in some calculators they get Northern European populations in the oracle. Native Americans are really nordic, lol.

It would be interesting to see North American GEDmatch results.


Dodecad K12b Oracle results

Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 33.02
2 East_Asian 32.25
3 North_European 15.06
4 Gedrosia 7.05
5 Southeast_Asian 6.56
6 South_Asian 6.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Altai (Rasmussen) 13.33
2 Mongol (Rasmussen) 18.45
3 Tuva (Rasmussen) 23.08
4 Hazara (HGDP) 23.91
5 Buryat (Rasmussen) 24.3
6 Uygur (HGDP) 25.44
7 Uzbeks (Behar) 26.63
8 Oroqen (HGDP) 29.13
9 Daur (HGDP) 38.66
10 Hezhen (HGDP) 40.69
11 Mongola (HGDP) 41.9
12 Xibo (HGDP) 44.17
13 Selkup (Rasmussen) 47.05
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 47.23
15 Tu (HGDP) 47.89
16 Ket (Rasmussen) 47.9
17 Burmanese (Chaubey) 48.34
18 Garo (Chaubey) 48.68
19 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 48.83
20 Chuvashs (Behar) 49.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% Altai (Rasmussen) + 17.9% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 6.17
2 80.7% Altai (Rasmussen) + 19.3% Garo (Chaubey) @ 6.67
3 80.6% Altai (Rasmussen) + 19.4% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 6.75
4 50.5% Selkup (Rasmussen) + 49.5% Tu (HGDP) @ 6.8
5 53.9% Selkup (Rasmussen) + 46.1% Naga (Metspalu) @ 7.13
6 87.3% Altai (Rasmussen) + 12.7% PANIYA (Behar) @ 7.65
7 88.4% Altai (Rasmussen) + 11.6% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 7.98
8 88.5% Altai (Rasmussen) + 11.5% Juang (Chaubey) @ 8.01
9 50% Tu (HGDP) + 50% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 8.32
10 88.9% Altai (Rasmussen) + 11.1% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 8.39
11 89.1% Altai (Rasmussen) + 10.9% Savara (Chaubey) @ 8.58
12 89.2% Altai (Rasmussen) + 10.8% Ho (Chaubey) @ 8.64
13 88.9% Altai (Rasmussen) + 11.1% KHV30 (1000Genomes) @ 8.74
14 90.3% Altai (Rasmussen) + 9.7% Cambodians (HGDP) @ 8.74
15 90.2% Altai (Rasmussen) + 9.8% MAS30 (SGVP) @ 8.76
16 89.1% Altai (Rasmussen) + 10.9% Lahu (HGDP) @ 8.91
17 86.3% Altai (Rasmussen) + 13.7% Miaozu (HGDP) @ 8.93
18 53.4% Ket (Rasmussen) + 46.6% Naga (Metspalu) @ 8.94
19 86.3% Altai (Rasmussen) + 13.7% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 8.94
20 53% Mongola (HGDP) + 47% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 9.02

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 99.64
2 East_Asian 0.26
3 West_Med 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Karitiana 0.11
2 Pima 13.37
3 Mayan 16.47
4 North_Amerindian 37.53
5 East_Greenlander 80.63
6 West_Greenlander 83.35
7 MA-1 97.41
8 Chukchi 107.04
9 Koryak 117.37
10 Aghan_Hazara 118.72
11 Turkmen 118.85
12 Uygur 118.85
13 Shors 119.08
14 Nogay 119.38
15 Uzbeki 119.42
16 Afghan_Turkmen 119.45
17 Afghan_Tadjik 119.45
18 Tatar 119.61
19 Tadjik 119.67
20 Hazara 119.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Karitiana + 0% Sardinian @ 0.11
2 100% Karitiana + 0% Abhkasian @ 0.11
3 100% Karitiana + 0% Adygei @ 0.11
4 100% Karitiana + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 0.11
5 100% Karitiana + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 0.11
6 100% Karitiana + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 0.11
7 100% Karitiana + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 0.11
8 100% Karitiana + 0% Algerian @ 0.11
9 100% Karitiana + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 0.11
10 100% Karitiana + 0% Altaian @ 0.11
11 100% Karitiana + 0% Armenian @ 0.11
12 100% Karitiana + 0% Ashkenazi @ 0.11
13 100% Karitiana + 0% Assyrian @ 0.11
14 100% Karitiana + 0% Austrian @ 0.11
15 100% Karitiana + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 0.11
16 100% Karitiana + 0% Azeri @ 0.11
17 100% Karitiana + 0% Balkar @ 0.11
18 100% Karitiana + 0% Balochi @ 0.11
19 100% Karitiana + 0% Bangladeshi @ 0.11
20 100% Karitiana + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 0.11

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 98.31
2 E_Asian 1.1
3 WHG 0.44
4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 0.14
5 Papuan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Karitiana 2.35
2 tadjik15 120.76
3 tadjik9 122.13
4 tadjik12 122.2
5 Ust_Ishim 122.36
6 tadjik5 122.45
7 tadjik11 122.8
8 Turkmen_Afghan 122.98
9 tadjik13 123.24
10 Turkmen 123.29
11 tadjik14 123.45
12 Tajik_Afghan 123.45
13 Tajik_Pomiri 123.59
14 tadjik7 123.61
15 Pashtun_Afghan 123.93
16 tadjik4 124.21
17 MA1 124.34
18 Hazara_Afghan 124.34
19 tadjik8 124.5
20 tadjik3 124.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% Altaian @ 0.35
2 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% Kyrgyz @ 0.37
3 98.4% Karitiana + 1.6% Mongola @ 0.54
4 98.4% Karitiana + 1.6% Dai @ 0.54
5 98.2% Karitiana + 1.8% Uygur @ 0.56
6 98.5% Karitiana + 1.5% Naga @ 0.56
7 98.5% Karitiana + 1.5% Ami @ 0.57
8 98.4% Karitiana + 1.6% Nganasan @ 0.57
9 98.2% Karitiana + 1.8% Hazara @ 0.57
10 98.5% Karitiana + 1.5% Ulchi @ 0.62
11 98.2% Karitiana + 1.8% Uzbek @ 0.68
12 98.4% Karitiana + 1.6% Kusunda @ 0.71
13 98.2% Karitiana + 1.8% Turkmen_Afghan @ 0.79
14 98.2% Karitiana + 1.8% Turkmen @ 0.79
15 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% Hazara_Afghan @ 0.81
16 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% tadjik13 @ 0.91
17 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% Uttaranchal_Brah @ 0.98
18 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% tadjik15 @ 0.98
19 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% tadjik12 @ 0.99
20 98.3% Karitiana + 1.7% tadjik7 @ 1
EUtest Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SIBERIAN 43.87
2 EAST_ASIAN 26.16
3 EAST_EURO 18.71
4 SOUTH_ASIAN 11.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 KZ 18.94
2 Selkup 33.67
3 Chukchi 39.21
4 Koryak 42.92
5 Komi 52.81
6 Udmurt 52.94
7 Erzya 60.7
8 East_Russian 61.59
9 East_Finnish 61.85
10 Burusho 62.2
11 North_Russian 62.48
12 South_Finnish 64.45
13 Nganassan 66.3
14 RO 67.12
15 West_Russian 67.15
16 Serbian 67.17
17 HU 67.24
18 North_Swedish 67.38
19 Ukrainian-Russian 67.4
20 TR 68.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Selkup + 26.1% Chinese @ 9.09
2 72.3% Selkup + 27.7% North_Han_Chinese @ 9.11
3 67.8% Selkup + 32.2% Japanese @ 9.18
4 68.8% Selkup + 31.2% KR @ 9.3
5 73.8% KZ + 26.2% Chukchi @ 13.72
6 76.1% KZ + 23.9% Koryak @ 14.05
7 72.2% KZ + 27.8% Selkup @ 14.98
8 85% KZ + 15% Nganassan @ 15.12
9 99.3% KZ + 0.7% South_Indian @ 18.93
10 100% KZ + 0% AJ @ 18.94
11 100% KZ + 0% Algerian @ 18.94
12 100% KZ + 0% Armenian @ 18.94
13 100% KZ + 0% Assyrian @ 18.94
14 100% KZ + 0% AT @ 18.94
15 100% KZ + 0% Balochi @ 18.94
16 100% KZ + 0% Bangladeshi @ 18.94
17 100% KZ + 0% Bedouin @ 18.94
18 100% KZ + 0% Belorussian @ 18.94
19 100% KZ + 0% Brahui @ 18.94
20 100% KZ + 0% Burusho @ 18.94

EUtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
Kit Num: T161758
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EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SIBERIAN 43.87
2 EAST_ASIAN 26.16
3 EAST_EURO 18.71
4 SOUTH_ASIAN 11.26


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KZ @ 19.572903
2 Selkup @ 30.484831
3 Chukchi @ 35.238262
4 Koryak @ 38.668591
5 Udmurt @ 50.138752
6 Komi @ 50.199448
7 Erzya @ 57.501637
8 East_Russian @ 58.066822
9 Nganassan @ 58.789894
10 East_Finnish @ 58.942150
11 North_Russian @ 59.180500
12 Burusho @ 59.291077
13 Japanese @ 61.200535
14 South_Finnish @ 61.548622
15 Serbian @ 62.954586
16 RO @ 63.116230
17 HU @ 63.171841
18 West_Russian @ 63.343330
19 Ukrainian-Russian @ 63.414970
20 KR @ 63.919533

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% KZ +50% Selkup @ 16.735456


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chukchi +25% Japanese +25% Kalash @ 13.525813


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Chinese + Selkup + Selkup + Selkup @ 9.861137
2 Burusho + Nganassan + North_Han_Chinese + Selkup @ 10.015193
3 Japanese + KZ + Selkup + Selkup @ 10.055336
4 Burusho + Japanese + Koryak + Selkup @ 10.099737
5 Burusho + Chukchi + Japanese + Selkup @ 10.131236
6 North_Han_Chinese + Selkup + Selkup + Selkup @ 10.195478
7 Burusho + Koryak + KR + Selkup @ 10.235037
8 Burusho + KR + Nganassan + Selkup @ 10.263593
9 Burusho + Chinese + Nganassan + Selkup @ 10.263858
10 Burusho + Chukchi + KR + Selkup @ 10.304026
11 KR + KZ + Selkup + Selkup @ 10.321507
12 Burusho + Japanese + Nganassan + Selkup @ 10.483821
13 Bangladeshi + KR + Nganassan + Selkup @ 10.816072
14 Chinese + Chukchi + Selkup + Selkup @ 10.890374
15 Bangladeshi + Nganassan + North_Han_Chinese + Selkup @ 10.989519
16 Bangladeshi + Japanese + Nganassan + Selkup @ 11.012323
17 Chukchi + North_Han_Chinese + Selkup + Selkup @ 11.301843
18 Bangladeshi + Japanese + Koryak + Selkup @ 11.382974
19 Chinese + Koryak + Selkup + Selkup @ 11.439645
20 KR + Selkup + Selkup + Selkup @ 11.441767

Dodecad V3 Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Northeast_Asian 49.93
2 Southeast_Asian 23.6
3 South_Asian 10.94
4 West_European 9.4
5 East_European 6.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dolgan (Rasmussen) 10.74
2 Tuva (Rasmussen) 17.21
3 Altai (Rasmussen) 17.98
4 Yakut (HGDP) 17.99
5 Yukagir (Rasmussen) 18.59
6 Buryat (Rasmussen) 21.32
7 Selkup (Rasmussen) 21.94
8 Evenk_15 (Rasmussen) 22.79
9 Mongol (Rasmussen) 24.76
10 Buryat (Xing) 25.86
11 Kyrgyzstani (Xing) 26.76
12 Oroqen (HGDP) 30.69
13 Hazara (HGDP) 37.17
14 Uygur (HGDP) 39.25
15 Hezhen (HGDP) 42.12
16 Uzbeks (Behar) 42.15
17 Daur (HGDP) 42.75
18 Mongola (HGDP) 45.49
19 Nganassan_12 (Rasmussen) 50.43
20 Xibo (HGDP) 50.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.8% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 11.2% Santhal (Reich) @ 5.97
2 91% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 9% Irula (Xing) @ 5.99
3 89.7% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.3% Chenchu (Reich) @ 6.1
4 90.7% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 9.3% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 6.16
5 89.7% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.3% Madiga (Reich) @ 6.18
6 89.7% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.3% AP_Mala (Xing) @ 6.19
7 88.5% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 11.5% Kharia (Reich) @ 6.23
8 88.6% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 11.4% Sahariya (Reich) @ 6.28
9 89.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.1% Mala (Reich) @ 6.29
10 89.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.1% AP_Madiga (Xing) @ 6.38
11 90.2% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 9.8% TN_Dalit (Xing) @ 6.39
12 89.1% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.9% Satnami (Reich) @ 6.4
13 89.7% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.3% Kurumba (Reich) @ 6.43
14 89.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.1% Bhil (Reich) @ 6.48
15 89.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.1% Kamsali (Reich) @ 6.52
16 90.3% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 9.7% Vysya (Reich) @ 6.72
17 80.6% Yakut (HGDP) + 19.4% Vaish (Reich) @ 6.74
18 90% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10% Hallaki (Reich) @ 6.81
19 89.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 10.1% Lodi (Reich) @ 6.84
20 90.2% Dolgan (Rasmussen) + 9.8% Naidu (Reich) @ 6.84

MDLP K23b Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 99.91
2 Paleo_Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Guarani ( ) 0.1
2 Karitiana ( ) 0.1
3 Surui ( ) 0.1
4 Chane ( ) 0.1
5 Mixe ( ) 0.1
6 Wayuu ( ) 0.11
7 Wichi ( ) 0.11
8 Ticuna ( ) 0.11
9 Cabecar ( ) 0.11
10 Kaqchikel ( ) 0.12
11 Quechua_Bolivia ( ) 0.71
12 Huichol ( ) 0.82
13 Aymara ( ) 2
14 Bolivian_LaPaz ( ) 2.58
15 Piapoco ( ) 2.65
16 Zapotec ( ) 2.77
17 Cachi ( ) 3.17
18 Mixtec ( ) 3.33
19 Totonac ( ) 3.84
20 Pima ( ) 3.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.9% Karitiana ( ) + 0.1% Itelmen ( ) @ 0.04
2 99.9% Surui ( ) + 0.1% Itelmen ( ) @ 0.04
3 99.9% Karitiana ( ) + 0.1% Koryak ( ) @ 0.04
4 99.9% Surui ( ) + 0.1% Koryak ( ) @ 0.04
5 99.9% Wichi ( ) + 0.1% Itelmen ( ) @ 0.05
6 99.9% Wichi ( ) + 0.1% Koryak ( ) @ 0.05
7 99.9% Guarani ( ) + 0.1% Itelmen ( ) @ 0.06
8 99.9% Guarani ( ) + 0.1% Koryak ( ) @ 0.06
9 99.9% Chane ( ) + 0.1% Itelmen ( ) @ 0.07
10 99.9% Chane ( ) + 0.1% Koryak ( ) @ 0.07
11 99.9% Karitiana ( ) + 0.1% Chukchi_Sir ( ) @ 0.08
12 99.9% Surui ( ) + 0.1% Chukchi_Sir ( ) @ 0.08
13 99.9% Karitiana ( ) + 0.1% Yukagir_Tundra ( ) @ 0.08
14 99.9% Surui ( ) + 0.1% Yukagir_Tundra ( ) @ 0.08
15 99.9% Karitiana ( ) + 0.1% Chukchi ( ) @ 0.08
16 99.9% Surui ( ) + 0.1% Chukchi ( ) @ 0.08
17 99.9% Ticuna ( ) + 0.1% Itelmen ( ) @ 0.08
18 99.9% Ticuna ( ) + 0.1% Koryak ( ) @ 0.08
19 98.2% Karitiana ( ) + 1.8% Zapotec ( ) @ 0.08
20 98.2% Surui ( ) + 1.8% Zapotec ( ) @ 0.08

MDLP World-22 Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mesoamerican 50.71
2 South-America_Amerind 25.09
3 North-Amerind 24.04
4 East-South-Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Karitiana (derived) 4.69
2 Maya (derived) 15.22
3 Mixtec (derived) 17.94
4 Huichol (derived) 19.34
5 Luiseno (derived) 19.52
6 Cucupa (derived) 23.68
7 Colombian (derived) 23.75
8 Kumiai (derived) 27.72
9 Cochimi (derived) 34.7
10 Apache (derived) 35.51
11 Serrano (derived) 38.1
12 Navajo (derived) 46.16
13 Mexican (derived) 46.58
14 Miwok (derived) 49.57
15 Haida (derived) 54.69
16 Pima (derived) 56.33
17 Tsimsian (derived) 59.1
18 Ste7 (derived) 62.48
19 Costanoan (derived) 62.59
20 Mesomerican (ancestral) 62.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.3% Karitiana (derived) + 4.7% North-Amerind (ancestral) @ 0.63
2 94.4% Karitiana (derived) + 5.6% Athabask (derived) @ 0.66
3 90.9% Karitiana (derived) + 9.1% Navajo (derived) @ 0.69
4 93.4% Karitiana (derived) + 6.6% Tlingit (derived) @ 1.12
5 84.1% Huichol (derived) + 15.9% Surui (derived) @ 1.48
6 85.1% Mixtec (derived) + 14.9% Surui (derived) @ 1.5
7 84.5% Huichol (derived) + 15.5% South-America_Amerind (ancestral) @ 1.61
8 85.4% Mixtec (derived) + 14.6% South-America_Amerind (ancestral) @ 1.62
9 89% Karitiana (derived) + 11% Apache (derived) @ 1.65
10 93.3% Karitiana (derived) + 6.7% Haida (derived) @ 2.54
11 80.5% Karitiana (derived) + 19.5% Maya (derived) @ 2.98
12 94.6% Karitiana (derived) + 5.4% Tsimsian (derived) @ 3.25
13 85.3% Karitiana (derived) + 14.7% Luiseno (derived) @ 3.31
14 90.7% Karitiana (derived) + 9.3% Kumiai (derived) @ 3.74
15 86.6% Karitiana (derived) + 13.4% Mixtec (derived) @ 3.83
16 96.7% Karitiana (derived) + 3.3% Eskimo (derived) @ 3.84
17 87.8% Karitiana (derived) + 12.2% Huichol (derived) @ 3.88
18 90% Karitiana (derived) + 10% Cucupa (derived) @ 3.91
19 93.6% Karitiana (derived) + 6.4% Cochimi (derived) @ 4.04
20 94.2% Karitiana (derived) + 5.8% Serrano (derived) @ 4.07

MDLP K11 Modern Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 99.89
2 EHG 0.11


MDLP World Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mesoamerican 68.21
2 Arctic_Amerind 31.6
3 East_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Karitiana 3.4
2 Mixtec 11.5
3 Huichol 11.89
4 Pima 12.4
5 Maya 17.57
6 Luiseno 20.25
7 Cucupa 28.72
8 Colombian 30.31
9 Apache 33.44
10 Navajo 34.96
11 Kumiai 35.88
12 Cochimi 46.89
13 Surui 49.21
14 Athabask 49.25
15 Tlingit 50.03
16 Serrano 51.67
17 Haida 56.59
18 Mexican 61.58
19 Miwok 65.55
20 Tsimsian 67.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.5% Huichol + 19.5% Surui @ 0.22
2 77.8% Karitiana + 22.2% Huichol @ 0.22
3 78.5% Karitiana + 21.5% Pima @ 0.23
4 77.2% Karitiana + 22.8% Mixtec @ 0.24
5 96.2% Karitiana + 3.8% Eskimo @ 0.56
6 96.5% Karitiana + 3.5% Inuit-East @ 0.6
7 93.6% Karitiana + 6.4% Athabask @ 0.63
8 79.9% Pima + 20.1% Surui @ 0.64
9 91.3% Karitiana + 8.7% Navajo @ 0.76
10 81.1% Mixtec + 18.9% Surui @ 0.8
11 94% Karitiana + 6% Tlingit @ 1.17
12 86.4% Karitiana + 13.6% Luiseno @ 1.2
13 96.5% Karitiana + 3.5% Inuit-West @ 1.33
14 91.6% Karitiana + 8.4% Apache @ 1.47
15 86% Karitiana + 14% Maya @ 1.87
16 95.3% Karitiana + 4.7% Haida @ 1.94
17 97% Karitiana + 3% Chukchi @ 2.02
18 91.8% Karitiana + 8.2% Cucupa @ 2.22
19 97.5% Karitiana + 2.5% Koryak @ 2.41
20 93.8% Karitiana + 6.2% Kumiai @ 2.46
Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 66.4
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.49
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 7.35
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 4.75

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pima 3.8
2 Clovis 7.51
3 Altaian 13.93
4 Kyrgyz 15.56
5 Sherpa 18.14
6 Eskimo 18.34
7 Kusunda 19.26
8 Kalmyk 20.14
9 Cambodian 24.72
10 Uygur 25.18
11 Hazara 25.21
12 Nganasan 29.22
13 Tibetan 29.74
14 Mongola 33.79
15 Uzbek 36.16
16 Ami 37.14
17 Han 37.9
18 Ulchi 38.09
19 Dai 39.65
20 Turkmen 46.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Clovis + 19.7% Tibetan @ 1.79
2 74.6% Tibetan + 25.4% EHG @ 1.8
3 83.6% Clovis + 16.4% Ami @ 1.83
4 82.3% Clovis + 17.7% Mongola @ 1.85
5 83.9% Clovis + 16.1% Han @ 1.9
6 80.1% Clovis + 19.9% Nganasan @ 1.99
7 84% Clovis + 16% Ulchi @ 2.04
8 84.6% Clovis + 15.4% Dai @ 2.04
9 73.8% Clovis + 26.2% Kalmyk @ 2.48
10 87.8% Pima + 12.2% Kusunda @ 2.71
11 97.4% Pima + 2.6% Onge @ 2.8
12 97.9% Pima + 2.1% Andamanese @ 2.87
13 97.9% Pima + 2.1% Australian @ 2.87
14 97.9% Pima + 2.1% Papuan @ 2.87
15 72.4% Clovis + 27.6% Eskimo @ 2.99
16 98% Pima + 2% WHG @ 3.01
17 98% Pima + 2% Hungarian_KO1 @ 3.01
18 91.5% Pima + 8.5% Cambodian @ 3.03
19 96.7% Pima + 3.3% GoyetQ116 @ 3.05
20 88.8% Pima + 11.2% Sherpa @ 3.06
Dodecad World9 Oracle results
Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 99.58
2 East_Asian 0.23
3 Siberian 0.13
4 Australasian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Karitiana 0.52
2 Surui 0.52
3 Pima 3.18
4 Colombians 3.22
5 Maya 10.77
6 PEL30 24.93
7 Athabask 43.95
8 Ecuadorian 57.68
9 MEX30 67.4
10 Colombian 80.15
11 EastGreenland 82.98
12 WestGreenland 88.8
13 CLM30 89.86
14 Puerto_Rican 102.35
15 PUR30 104.49
16 Chukchi 105.49
17 Aleut 108.37
18 Uygur (HGDP) 112.93
19 Uzbeks (Behar) 113.14
20 Dominican 113.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Mongola (HGDP) @ 0.08
2 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Mongola (HGDP) @ 0.08
3 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Xibo (HGDP) @ 0.08
4 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Xibo (HGDP) @ 0.08
5 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Daur (HGDP) @ 0.09
6 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Daur (HGDP) @ 0.09
7 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.09
8 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.09
9 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Tu (HGDP) @ 0.1
10 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Tu (HGDP) @ 0.1
11 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Naga (Metspalu) @ 0.11
12 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Naga (Metspalu) @ 0.11
13 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Japanese (Dodecad) @ 0.11
14 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Japanese (Dodecad) @ 0.11
15 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% JPT30 (Behar) @ 0.11
16 99.6% Surui + 0.4% JPT30 (Behar) @ 0.11
17 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Korean (Dodecad) @ 0.11
18 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Korean (Dodecad) @ 0.11
19 99.6% Karitiana + 0.4% Naxi (HGDP) @ 0.12
20 99.6% Surui + 0.4% Naxi (HGDP) @ 0.12

Leto
06-11-2018, 08:08 PM
He is 75% Mongoloid at best, just proves my theory that on GM the Amerindian is not full East Eurasian. 1/4 or 1/3 non East Eurasian.

8888
06-11-2018, 08:15 PM
He is 75% Mongoloid at best, just proves my theory that on GM the Amerindian is not full East Eurasian. 1/4 or 1/3 non East Eurasian.

I get your point. But don't you think labeling certain archaic populations (like the ANE, f.e) is a stretch? I think much of the changing of racial morphological aspects can be attributed to environment, because many populations with similar results can be morphologically different. Also, many of these ancient populations who originated the more modern ones we discuss were walking around before types like Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Australoid were established in definite way.

The Ainu are predominantly ASE iirc, but they look nothing like Australian Aborigines. Just to give an example.

Leto
06-11-2018, 08:22 PM
I get your point. But don't you think labeling certain archaic populations (like the ANE, f.e) is a stretch? I think much of the changing of racial morphological aspects can be attributed to environment, because many populations with similar results can be morphologically different. Also, many of these ancient populations who originated the more modern ones we discuss were walking around before types like Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Australoid were established in definite way.

The Ainu are predominantly ASE iirc, but they look nothing like Australian Aborigines. Just to give an example.
Yeah, that may be true. I'm interested because I get 2% Amerindian myself on K13 and I have no roots in the Americas. So I've been thinking how much of it is actually Siberian and how much is something else.

8888
06-11-2018, 08:25 PM
Yeah, that may be true. I'm interested because I get 2% Amerindian myself on K13 and I have no roots in the Americas. So I've been thinking how much of it is actually Siberian and how much is something else.

Probably a bit of Siberian or some ANE connection. I've seen even people from Ireland scoring some Amerindian before.

Carlito's Way
06-11-2018, 10:15 PM
pure amerindian

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 12:14 AM
Karitiana Native Americans from Brazil GEDmatch results. Interesting how the ANE is read as part Northern European by the calculator and in some calculators they get Northern European populations in the oracle. Native Americans are really nordic, lol.

It would be interesting to see North American GEDmatch results.


Dodecad K12b Oracle results

Kit T161758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 33.02
2 East_Asian 32.25
3 North_European 15.06
4 Gedrosia 7.05
5 Southeast_Asian 6.56
6 South_Asian 6.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Altai (Rasmussen) 13.33
2 Mongol (Rasmussen) 18.45
3 Tuva (Rasmussen) 23.08
4 Hazara (HGDP) 23.91
5 Buryat (Rasmussen) 24.3
6 Uygur (HGDP) 25.44
7 Uzbeks (Behar) 26.63
8 Oroqen (HGDP) 29.13
9 Daur (HGDP) 38.66
10 Hezhen (HGDP) 40.69
11 Mongola (HGDP) 41.9
12 Xibo (HGDP) 44.17
13 Selkup (Rasmussen) 47.05
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 47.23
15 Tu (HGDP) 47.89
16 Ket (Rasmussen) 47.9
17 Burmanese (Chaubey) 48.34
18 Garo (Chaubey) 48.68
19 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 48.83
20 Chuvashs (Behar) 49.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% Altai (Rasmussen) + 17.9% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 6.17

INDO-EUROPEAN

https://i.imgur.com/hdSpdj5.png

:rotfl:

What will come next? Turkic is extra-Indo-European language group? :rotfl:

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-21-2019, 01:36 AM
Melanesians are actually indo european

Mingle
02-21-2019, 02:13 AM
What will come next? Turkic is extra-Indo-European language group? :rotfl:

Of course, this is pretty obvious.

Erronkari
02-21-2019, 02:21 AM
He is 75% Mongoloid at best, just proves my theory that on GM the Amerindian is not full East Eurasian. 1/4 or 1/3 non East Eurasian.

And Karitiana is one of the amerindian groups with most mongoloid contribution.
So, you can imagine others. ;)

Chaos One
02-21-2019, 02:40 AM
Interesting that the distance is not that close with North Asian groups like Tuvan or Mongols because their Caucasic part is probably bigger than those groups.

Heck, that would even explain why the "Amerindian" dilutes so easily at Pred-Whites. Because...amerindian itself is partially white.

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 02:45 AM
Of course, this is pretty obvious.
This was no joke. It’s becoming very widespread in academics. Uralics were already the first colony victims.

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 02:48 AM
In near future ancient Native Americans will become Indo-Europeans too. I cant wait for this.

Turul Karom
02-21-2019, 03:49 AM
This was no joke. It’s becoming very widespread in academics. Uralics were already the first colony victims.


In near future ancient Native Americans will become Indo-Europeans too. I cant wait for this.

Same colonization by the term can be found in the study here. Even in areas of Altai where majority of haplogroups are R1, they must explain this somehow, but God forbid anything Turkic/Turanid.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17633562

100 years and they will be reaching for Indo-Afro-Amerindian-European, loooooool.

SardiniaAtlantis
02-21-2019, 03:53 AM
South_Asian 6.07

What the motherfuxk?!!!!

Zuh
02-21-2019, 03:54 AM
Same colonization by the term can be found in the study here. Even in areas of Altai where majority of haplogroups are R1, they must explain this somehow, but God forbid anything Turkic/Turanid.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17633562

100 years and they will be reaching for Indo-Afro-Amerindian-European, loooooool.

We already are that it's called Latin americans.

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 10:39 AM
We already are that it's called Latin americans.
:(

Token
02-21-2019, 10:46 AM
And Karitiana is one of the amerindian groups with most mongoloid contribution.
So, you can imagine others. ;)
Not true, Karitiana is the least East Eurasian Amerindian tribe.

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 11:07 AM
Guys Mal'ta had NO East Asian affinity either. Stop this racist shit. Wa ar all brothas from P1.

Erronkari
02-21-2019, 11:53 AM
Not true, Karitiana is the least East Eurasian Amerindian tribe.
Interesting...
So, I wonder why they look more pseudo-asian than many tribes especially from northern México, USA and Patagonia....

Token
02-21-2019, 11:56 AM
Interesting...
So, I wonder why they look more pseudo-asian than many tribes especially from northern México, USA and Patagonia....

Interestingly North American Amerindians are the least 'mongoloid' looking Amerindians even though they got the highest levels of East Eurasian admixture.

Maguzanci
02-21-2019, 01:24 PM
Interesting...
So, I wonder why they look more pseudo-asian than many tribes especially from northern México, USA and Patagonia....

I think it is has to do with the fact that Brazilids (including Karitiana) live in tropical/equatorial climates similar to certain places in East Asia cause them too look a lot more Asiatic on average than other tribes. Though Mayans and other Istmids who also live in tropical/ climates like the Brazilids can also look more pseudo Asian than other Native Americans as well and they do score less ANE than Karitiana.

JMack
02-21-2019, 01:56 PM
I think it is has to do with the fact that Brazilids (including Karitiana) live in tropical/equatorial climates similar to certain places in East Asia cause them too look a lot more Asiatic on average than other tribes. Though Mayans and other Istmids who also live in tropical/ climates like the Brazilids can also look more pseudo Asian than other Native Americans as well and they do score less ANE than Karitiana.

I think most people never saw a Native American from Brazil, the stereotype they all look Asian (even the supposed ''Brazilid'' ones) isn't very true imo. They can vary in looks.

This guy is fully indigenous (from a tribe which received minor or no European blood at all) and he doesn't look Asian imo:

http://portal-assets.icnetworks.org/uploads/picture/file/99759/Ailton_Krenak__destaque_.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f48HAu0bNPc/maxresdefault.jpg

https://saudedomeio.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/INDIO2.jpg

https://p2.trrsf.com/image/fget/cf/940/0/images.terra.com/2018/03/27/946e81b8-cad5-4c3f-9f30-864528ddfcb1.jpg

If he had a beard he would even look pseudo-Ainu.

Erronkari
02-21-2019, 02:14 PM
This amerindian (he is pure too) of Patagonia looks really weird too.
Don't you believe it???

https://i.imgur.com/9Nmigb9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MnvNHzS.jpg

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 10:00 PM
This Patagonian guy looks like an Kazakh, Tajik or Kyrgyz half Eurasian breed.
https://i.imgur.com/LFBHNQq.jpg

Maguzanci
02-23-2019, 02:50 PM
This Patagonian guy looks like an Kazakh, Tajik or Kyrgyz half Eurasian breed.
https://i.imgur.com/LFBHNQq.jpg

Yes he does. He looks Central Asian Turk.

Aren't Tajiks usually more Caucasoid looking?

Proto-Shaman
02-23-2019, 02:55 PM
Yes he does. He looks Central Asian Turk.
Aren't Tajiks usually more Caucasoid looking?
Yes, Tajiks are more Andronovo shifted.

Erronkari
02-23-2019, 06:24 PM
This Patagonian guy looks like an Kazakh, Tajik or Kyrgyz half Eurasian breed.
https://i.imgur.com/LFBHNQq.jpg

Totally agree!!
That gentleman looks even more racially ambiguous than which I posted :eek:

Proto-Shaman
02-23-2019, 06:59 PM
Totally agree!!
That gentleman looks even more racially ambiguous than which I posted :eek:
compare cephalic index map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/PSM_V50_D602_World_cephalic_index_map.jpg

Erronkari
02-23-2019, 07:55 PM
compare cephalic index map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/PSM_V50_D602_World_cephalic_index_map.jpg

Very interesting.
Most of south-american amerinds seem to be mostly mesocephaly and some less dolichocephaly, except andean ones...
Totally different comparing to central-mexican and centralamerican ones!

Maguzanci
02-24-2019, 01:10 PM
Yes, Tajiks are more Andronovo shifted.

How typical is his look among Bashkir, Kazakh,Kyrgyz and other Central Asian Turks like Siberian Tatar? Can you also see him passing as Khanty, Mansi?

This mean a lot of Amerindians can pass in Central Asia?

Turul Karom
02-25-2019, 05:41 AM
Interestingly North American Amerindians are the least 'mongoloid' looking Amerindians even though they got the highest levels of East Eurasian admixture.

That's because it's a genuine false equivalence to associate Central Asian and sometimes even East Asian ancestry with a stereotypical Sinic look. Variations in Turkic/Turanid typing shows this.

Proto-Shaman
02-25-2019, 12:07 PM
How typical is his look among Bashkir, Kazakh,Kyrgyz and other Central Asian Turks like Siberian Tatar? Can you also see him passing as Khanty, Mansi?

This mean a lot of Amerindians can pass in Central Asia?
Kazakhs, Karakalpaks, Kyrgyz, Altaians, and partly Uzbeks, and the Pamir tribes. To a lesser degree it is also common among Karakalpaks, Telengits, Tofalars, Uyghurs, Bashkirs, Volga Tatars, Crimean Tatars, North-Uzbeks, Tajiks and partly Shors. In average extent, the Turanid racial type is found from Siberia throughout Russia and deep into Eastern Europe and even as far as Ukraine and from the North down to Afghanistan. In a south Siberian hybrid form this racial type appears among the Yakuts. Yenisei (Kets) and the Pacific Ocean (Chukchis) types are also possible.

Rafael Passoni
11-15-2021, 01:12 AM
1 Chinese + Selkup + Selkup + Selkup @ 9.861137
Does it means they are a quarter Chinese and 75% Siberian?