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8888
06-11-2018, 09:23 PM
K13 Oracle

Kit M828815

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.42
2 West_Asian 31.04
3 North_Atlantic 20.51
4 South_Asian 4.19
5 Amerindian 2.84

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 22.45
2 Erzya 23.9
3 Southwest_Russian 24.22
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 24.81
5 Tatar 24.99
6 Kargopol_Russian 25.17
7 Russian_Smolensk 25.39
8 Ukrainian 25.72
9 South_Polish 25.88
10 Moldavian 25.98
11 Polish 26.21
12 Croatian 26.55
13 Estonian_Polish 26.96
14 Belorussian 27.25
15 Lithuanian 27.88
16 Hungarian 28.63
17 Chuvash 28.9
18 Tabassaran 29
19 Estonian 29.15
20 Finnish 29.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Lithuanian + 48.9% Tabassaran @ 10.65
2 53% Lithuanian + 47% Lezgin @ 11.43
3 56% Erzya + 44% Tabassaran @ 11.74
4 52.9% Lithuanian + 47.1% Chechen @ 11.75
5 50.2% Tabassaran + 49.8% Estonian @ 11.97
6 58.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.7% Tabassaran @ 12.33
7 54.5% Kargopol_Russian + 45.5% Tabassaran @ 12.34
8 54.2% Russian_Smolensk + 45.8% Tabassaran @ 12.47
9 51.8% Estonian + 48.2% Lezgin @ 12.53
10 58.1% Erzya + 41.9% Lezgin @ 12.63
11 50.7% Tabassaran + 49.3% East_Finnish @ 12.8
12 65% Lithuanian + 35% Balochi @ 12.81
13 51.7% Estonian + 48.3% Chechen @ 12.82
14 52% Belorussian + 48% Tabassaran @ 12.82
15 52.3% Estonian_Polish + 47.7% Tabassaran @ 12.86
16 58.2% Erzya + 41.8% Chechen @ 12.97
17 65.8% Lithuanian + 34.2% Brahui @ 12.98
18 56.5% Kargopol_Russian + 43.5% Lezgin @ 13.04
19 57.8% Lithuanian + 42.2% North_Ossetian @ 13.07
20 60.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.5% Lezgin @ 13.09


HarappaWorld

Kit M828815

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 56.02
2 Baloch 33.24
3 Caucasian 6.58
4 American 2.46
5 W-African 0.95
6 Beringian 0.75

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 mordovian (yunusbayev) 26.57
2 russian (hgdp) 28.16
3 chuvash (behar) 29.16
4 ukranian (yunusbayev) 30.01
5 belorussian (behar) 30.64
6 russian (behar) 30.8
7 lithuanian (behar) 31.52
8 slovenian (xing) 33.8
9 hungarian (behar) 34.42
10 n-european (xing) 36.03
11 utahn-white (hapmap) 36.15
12 orcadian (hgdp) 36.75
13 utahn-white (1000genomes) 37.35
14 finnish (1000genomes) 37.85
15 british (1000genomes) 37.87
16 tajik (yunusbayev) 39.82
17 romanian-a (behar) 41.47
18 haryana-jatt (harappa) 42.63
19 french (hgdp) 42.88
20 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 43.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.6% finnish (1000genomes) + 39.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 14.57
2 60% finnish (1000genomes) + 40% balochi (hgdp) @ 15.37
3 60.5% finnish (1000genomes) + 39.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 15.52
4 66.2% lithuanian (behar) + 33.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 15.92
5 65.8% lithuanian (behar) + 34.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 16.5
6 66.2% lithuanian (behar) + 33.8% makrani (hgdp) @ 16.59
7 57.2% finnish (1000genomes) + 42.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 17.46
8 57% finnish (1000genomes) + 43% kalash (hgdp) @ 17.56
9 70.7% russian (hgdp) + 29.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 17.77
10 63.2% lithuanian (behar) + 36.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 17.79
11 63.1% lithuanian (behar) + 36.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 18
12 70.5% russian (hgdp) + 29.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 18.33
13 56.7% finnish (1000genomes) + 43.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 18.43
14 71% russian (hgdp) + 29% makrani (hgdp) @ 18.47
15 73.3% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 26.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 18.48
16 62.9% lithuanian (behar) + 37.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 18.61
17 63.6% lithuanian (behar) + 36.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 18.86
18 57.4% finnish (1000genomes) + 42.6% burusho (hgdp) @ 18.93
19 60.6% finnish (1000genomes) + 39.4% sindhi (hgdp) @ 18.97
20 73.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 26.8% balochi (hgdp) @ 19.02

Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 91.24
2 E_Eurasian 8.49


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 0.710960
2 Adygei @ 1.083253
3 Kurd_N @ 2.773454
4 Mordovian @ 2.997657
5 Finnish @ 3.239377
6 Kurd_C @ 3.302926
7 Loschbour @ 3.552401
8 Russian @ 3.701192
9 Abkhasian @ 4.089966
10 Estonian @ 4.568873
11 Georgian_Jew @ 5.152403
12 Belarusian @ 5.231034
13 Turkish @ 5.370074
14 Iranian @ 5.438424
15 Balkar @ 5.626710
16 Ukrainian @ 6.145593
17 Iranian_Jew @ 6.452989
18 Georgian @ 6.581553
19 Armenian @ 6.891140
20 Lithuanian @ 6.979189

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +50% Russian @ 0.000000
2 50% Adygei +50% Chechen @ 0.000000
3 50% Balkar +50% Belarusian @ 0.000000
4 50% Balkar +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
5 50% Loschbour +50% Russian @ 0.259487
6 50% Finnish +50% Loschbour @ 0.270837
7 50% Abkhasian +50% Finnish @ 0.426036
8 50% Loschbour +50% Mordovian @ 0.428903
9 50% Estonian +50% Russian @ 0.505420
10 50% Balkar +50% Estonian @ 0.537950
11 50% Abkhasian +50% Mordovian @ 0.547570
12 50% Balkar +50% Lithuanian @ 0.675119
13 50% Belarusian +50% Turkish @ 0.699977
14 50% Chechen +50% Chechen @ 0.710960
15 50% Balkar +50% Georgian @ 0.717993
16 50% Balkar +50% Hungarian @ 0.737232
17 50% Estonian +50% Finnish @ 0.745137
18 50% Estonian +50% Turkish @ 0.768055
19 50% Abkhasian +50% Balkar @ 0.788511
20 50% Belarusian +50% Russian @ 0.825375


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +25% Balkar +25% Finnish @ 0.000000

Leto
06-11-2018, 09:27 PM
Is this from a recent study? Central Kazakhstan.

kleenex
06-11-2018, 09:30 PM
Distant from any modern population. No surprise.

Leto
06-11-2018, 09:32 PM
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit M828815

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 60.14
2 Gedrosia 32.18
3 Caucasus 3.62
4 Atlantic_Med 1.46
5 Siberian 1.44
6 Sub_Saharan 0.86
7 South_Asian 0.22
8 Southeast_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 28.96
2 Russian (HGDP) 30.89
3 Russian (Dodecad) 31.68
4 Russian_B (Behar) 33.22
5 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 33.35
6 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 34
7 Chuvashs (Behar) 34.08
8 Belorussian (Behar) 34.4
9 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 34.41
10 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 34.57
11 Finnish (Dodecad) 34.87
12 Polish (Dodecad) 35.23
13 Lithuanians (Behar) 35.51
14 Swedish (Dodecad) 37.13
15 Hungarians (Behar) 38.44
16 German (Dodecad) 39.24
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 39.44
18 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 42.07
19 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 42.42
20 Dutch (Dodecad) 42.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% Lithuanians (Behar) + 33.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 15.42
2 65.6% Lithuanians (Behar) + 34.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 16.07
3 67.6% Finnish (Dodecad) + 32.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 16.38
4 66.3% Finnish (Dodecad) + 33.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 16.66
5 65.7% Lithuanians (Behar) + 34.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 16.86
6 68% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 32% Brahui (HGDP) @ 16.96
7 68.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 31.5% Brahui (HGDP) @ 17.12
8 66.4% Finnish (Dodecad) + 33.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 17.35
9 67.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 32.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 17.39
10 66.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 33.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 17.65
11 67.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 32.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 18.03
12 67% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 33% Makrani (HGDP) @ 18.44
13 74.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 25.8% Brahui (HGDP) @ 18.73
14 72.3% Russian (HGDP) + 27.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 19.14
15 73.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 26.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 19.44
16 70.3% Russian_B (Behar) + 29.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 19.69
17 71.4% Russian (HGDP) + 28.6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 19.75
18 61.8% Finnish (Dodecad) + 38.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 19.76
19 61.1% Lithuanians (Behar) + 38.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 19.78
20 73.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 26.1% Makrani (HGDP) @ 20.09

Leto
06-11-2018, 09:35 PM
Is this from a recent study? Central Kazakhstan.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245810-3-Steppe-GEDmatch-results-from-Damgaard-et-al&p=5161291&viewfull=1#post5161291

8888
06-11-2018, 09:36 PM
Is this from a recent study? Central Kazakhstan.

Yup. They are the first ''Indo-Europeans'' known and the only ones who can really be modeled as EHG + CHG imo. As we can see in the Andronovo thread, they were western shifted compared to Yamnaya. Probably descendants of the latter who left the steppe for Europe and returned with some admixture.

Thracian
06-11-2018, 09:37 PM
Do you guys have more kit numbers for Yamnaya etc?

8888
06-11-2018, 09:39 PM
Do you guys have more kit numbers for Yamnaya etc?

I have three more Yamnaya kits, you can run them and post here if you want:

M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231
M343758 / Yamnaya-I0443
F999968 / Yamnaya-RISE548

Ajeje Brazorf
06-11-2018, 09:42 PM
Turkmenistan_IA
1 brahui_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + urkarah_xing + urkarah_xing @ 6.829000
1 North_Swedish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.317080

Thracian
06-11-2018, 09:47 PM
I have three more Yamnaya kits, you can run them and post here if you want:

M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231
M343758 / Yamnaya-I0443
F999968 / Yamnaya-RISE548

Thank you very much. I will do it in a few days.

Proto-Shaman
02-21-2019, 12:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Tem2r8U.png

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 03:39 PM
Strong match.

Largest segment = 3.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 21.3 cM (0.594 Pct)

12 shared segments found for this comparison.

552211 SNPs used for this comparison.

56.260 Pct SNPs are full identical

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 03:43 PM
I'm matching with the other kits as well.


Largest segment = 2.9 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 36.2 cM (1.008 Pct)
24 shared segments found for this comparison.
536333 SNPs used for this comparison.
55.682 Pct SNPs are full identical


Largest segment = 2.1 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3.5 cM (0.096 Pct)
2 shared segments found for this comparison.
391902 SNPs used for this comparison.
58.019 Pct SNPs are full identical


Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 34.4 cM (0.959 Pct)
17 shared segments found for this comparison.
475262 SNPs used for this comparison.
55.661 Pct SNPs are full identical

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 03:49 PM
Strong match too.

Comparing Kit M828815 (RISE552_Yamnaya) [Migration - V3 - M] and ...

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.



Largest segment = 2.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 10.8 cM (0.303 Pct)

7 shared segments found for this comparison.

404467 SNPs used for this comparison.

56.587 Pct SNPs are full identical

Bosniensis
03-03-2019, 03:55 PM
Comparing Kit M828815 (RISE552_Yamnaya) [Migration - V3 - M] and ...

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.



Largest segment = 2.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 4.7 cM (0.131 Pct)

3 shared segments found for this comparison.

402854 SNPs used for this comparison.

56.997 Pct SNPs are full identical

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 04:06 PM
I have three more Yamnaya kits, you can run them and post here if you want:

M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231
M343758 / Yamnaya-I0443
F999968 / Yamnaya-RISE548

It's interesting I have matches about 2cm for first two but nothing for third one.

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 04:22 PM
It's interesting I have matches about 2cm for first two but nothing for third one.

I am more Slavic than you Bosnians and Serbs. Hahahaha. In all fairness most of the people from this culture are Eastern Slavs.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 04:22 PM
Are these kits available on Genesis ?

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 04:24 PM
Are these kits available on Genesis ?

Yes.

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 04:25 PM
I am more Slavic than you Bosnians and Serbs. Hahahaha.

Not surprising if you have one parent Russian (I guess by your profile info). Besides that, third example is from Russia (that is what was written next to kit number) so I guess that one is maybe more far eastern than rest.

Bosniensis
03-03-2019, 04:28 PM
It's interesting I have matches about 2cm for first two but nothing for third one.

I have match with 3rd one and 1cm 1 segment :P

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 04:29 PM
Yes.

I match second and third Yamnanya sample unadjusted. Forth isn't available on genesis.

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 04:30 PM
I have match with 3rd one and 1cm 1 segment :P

You're Russian xD

Bosniensis
03-03-2019, 04:30 PM
You're Russian xD

https://images6.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED11/51037f9c70b8c.jpeg

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 04:31 PM
My strongest match is M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231, largest segment 4.8 cM.

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 04:37 PM
My strongest match is M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231, largest segment 4.8 cM.

Are you sure? You can't have both, that one and Dalmatian. xD

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 04:39 PM
My strongest match is M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231, largest segment 4.8 cM.

What is your collective total?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 04:45 PM
Are you sure? You can't have both, that one and Dalmatian. xD

Why ? BA Dalmatian has heavily steppe admixed.

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 04:47 PM
Why ? BA Dalmatian has heavily steppe admixed.

I'm joking. But you should post all quote or screenshot if you already have extraordinary result.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 04:50 PM
I'm joking. But you should post all quote or screenshot if you already have extraordinary result.

I don't have extraordinary result. Impaler has with BA Dalmatian.

Moje ime
03-03-2019, 04:52 PM
I don't have extraordinary result. Impaler has with BA Dalmatian.

It seems you have with M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 05:08 PM
It seems you have with M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231

It's similar to all other matches I got. Extraordinary match is above 10 cM.

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 05:12 PM
It's similar to all other matches I got. Extraordinary match is above 10 cM.

Mostly East Slavs will register such matches.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 05:13 PM
Mostly East Slavs will register such matches.

Probably Balts and some North Caucasians and Volga Finns too.

tipirneni
03-03-2019, 05:14 PM
Genesis 100/1cm

Rise 552

Largest segment = 2.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 117.6 cM (3.280 Pct)

81 shared segments found for this comparison.

411699 SNPs used for this comparison.

(I0443 Yamnaya)

Largest segment = 3.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 123.2 cM (3.438 Pct)

77 shared segments found for this comparison.

326576 SNPs used for this comparison.

I0231 Yamnaya


Largest segment = 3.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 140.0 cM (3.906 Pct)

91 shared segments found for this comparison.

372047 SNPs used for this comparison.
RISE548,Russia,~2ky


Largest segment = 3.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 34.5 cM (0.964 Pct)

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 05:14 PM
Probably Balts and some North Caucasians and Volga Finns too.

Finns have strong ties to that culture along with Russians and Ukrainians.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 05:19 PM
Finns have strong ties to that culture along with Russians and Ukrainians.

What about Scandinavians ? Yamnaya admixture suposedly peaks in Norwegians.

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 05:23 PM
What about Scandinavians ? Yamnaya admixture suposedly peaks in Norwegians.

I'm not finding much about that. I'm guessing in the 38-50 percent range based on this.

Haak et al. (2015) conducted a genome-wide study of 69 ancient skeletons from Europe and Russia. They concluded that Yamnaya autosomal characteristics are very close to the Corded Ware culture people, with an estimated a 73% ancestral contribution from the Yamnaya DNA in the DNA of Corded Ware skeletons from Germany. The same study estimated a (38.8%–50.4%) ancestral contribution of the Yamnaya in the DNA of modern Western, Central, and Northern Europeans, and an 18.5–32.6% contribution in modern Southern Europeans; this contribution is found to a lesser extent in Sardinians (2.4%–7.1%) and Sicilians (5.9–11.6%).[

Arhat
03-03-2019, 05:45 PM
What about Scandinavians ? Yamnaya admixture suposedly peaks in Norwegians.

If we would remove the recent Balto-Slavic and NW European genetic drift than we would see that Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, West/Central Russians, Scandinavians and Irish/Scots are clustering with each other because they are a similar mix of steppe and EEF/Globular Amphora. All this populations are around 45-50% steppe derived i would say. Lithuanians are a bit more than them. Finns and East/North Russians probably a bit less than them because they have significant Uralic admixture.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-03-2019, 06:00 PM
If we would remove the recent Balto-Slavic and NW European genetic drift than we would see that Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, West/Central Russians, Scandinavians and Irish/Scots are clustering with each other because they are a similar mix of steppe and EEF/Globular Amphora. All this populations are around 45-50% steppe derived i would say. Lithuanians are a bit more than them. Finns and East/North Russians probably a bit less than them because they have significant Uralic admixture.

Aren't you were close to Yamnaya considering your ancestry ?

Arhat
03-03-2019, 06:11 PM
Aren't you were close to Yamnaya considering your ancestry ?

My increased CHG/Iran_Neolithic ancestry from my Pashtun side and my high EHG/WHG ancestry from my Balto-Slavic ancestors gives me a fake affinity to Yamnaya but of course i have a bit less direct steppe ancestry than other North Europeans. Pashtuns and Yamnaya share not only steppe dna but also CHG-like ancestry which Pashtuns got from non-Indo-Europeans.

dududud
03-04-2019, 07:47 AM
Satisfied with the results.

Borealis
03-04-2019, 07:50 AM
Does anyone know of official studies that reveal the actual relatedness of these Indo-Europeans to modern europeans, thanks.

Yamnaya
09-03-2019, 12:44 AM
Nothing

Yamnaya
09-03-2019, 12:45 AM
Does anyone know of official studies that reveal the actual relatedness of these Indo-Europeans to modern europeans, thanks.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fKE6hbeXUWYEUZIBiU8QKIktHmNNC5NE4wJk3NsTuyY/edit#gid=1448840466

Gaditanian
09-03-2019, 07:56 PM
My strongest match is M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231, largest segment 4.8 cM.

I match 7.4 with 50 SNPs / M655536

Largest segment = 7.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 371.3 cM (10.369 Pct)

173 shared segments found for this comparison.

109519 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.087 Pct SNPs are full identical

With 100 SNPs


Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
7 42,101,972 45,018,263 3.8 116
8 51,551,385 55,166,676 4.1 118
8 78,160,049 82,165,658 2.4 102
15 53,421,553 56,094,056 2.1 113
18 60,090,079 62,221,502 4.4 105

Largest segment = 4.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 16.7 cM (0.466 Pct)

5 shared segments found for this comparison.

tabani
10-02-2019, 08:38 PM
I believe Yamna 2 Ekaterinovka M020637 (Yamna 2 (Yamnaya I0231)) should also be valid. I found high number of 30 shared segments at least 2 cM long with my own kit. I get similar results 32-35 with other modern people in my country Estonia. This was quite shocking. This kit appears to be more related to Finnougrians than kits mentioned above. Forecasted nationality for it was Finnish or Vepsan. But Eurogenes said it was 77% Fennoscandian. It appears to be truth that Aryans originated in Samara, moved to Scandinavia and I am the living example of Aryan race.

Largest segment = 6.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 98.1 cM (2.735 Pct)

30 shared segments found for this comparison.

290297 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.724 Pct SNPs are full identical

Leto
10-02-2019, 08:49 PM
I believe Yamna 2 Ekaterinovka M020637 should also be valid. I found high number of 30 shared segments at least 2 cM long with my own kit. I get similar results 32-35 with other modern people in my country Estonia. This was quite shocking. This kit appears to be more related to Finnougrians than kits mentioned above. Forecasted nationality for it was Finnish or Vepsan. But Eurogenes said it was 77% Fennoscandian. It appears to be truth that Aryans originated in Samara, moved to Scandinavia and I am the living example of Aryan race.

Largest segment = 6.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 98.1 cM (2.735 Pct)

30 shared segments found for this comparison.

290297 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.724 Pct SNPs are full identical
Show your results then. Are you even R1a or R1b?

Daos777
10-02-2019, 08:53 PM
I believe Yamna 2 Ekaterinovka M020637 should also be valid. I found high number of 30 shared segments at least 2 cM long with my own kit. I get similar results 32-35 with other modern people in my country Estonia. This was quite shocking. This kit appears to be more related to Finnougrians than kits mentioned above. Forecasted nationality for it was Finnish or Vepsan. But Eurogenes said it was 77% Fennoscandian. It appears to be truth that Aryans originated in Samara, moved to Scandinavia and I am the living example of Aryan race.

Largest segment = 6.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 98.1 cM (2.735 Pct)

30 shared segments found for this comparison.

290297 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.724 Pct SNPs are full identical

https://imgur.com/O8gygNb

Here is my match.

Kyp
10-02-2019, 08:54 PM
Didn't knew they were that high in Baloch/WestAsian

tabani
10-02-2019, 09:16 PM
Y group is N1a but this should not be important here. Eurogenes K36 says that I am 37% Fennoscandian. I do not know yet any other Estonian with that so high. Forecasted nationality was rather Western Finn (they are rather not Finns but Germanic Scandinavians). Probably my main autosomal material is rather related to I2 and R1a/R1b. Another surprise was in Eurogenes k36 that East_Balkan (Balkans and Baltics have little in common) component was 6,02% which is surprisingly high. May be this component was related to Yamnayas or may be I received it from known ancestors who lived in parish which was known Polish colony in Põltsamaa in 17th century? I also have aquiline nose which is not really common in Estonia and appears to come from this same potentially Polish direction. Add here my blue eyes and cephalic index 0,75. Sometimes it looks like I am rather Finn but at closer look I am not. Rather Norwegian. My main location of origin was orderly populated by Finns after wars in about 1630 in North-Estonia by Sweden. One best estimate was: 1/3 Norwegian, 1/3 Vepsan, 1/3 Lithuanian.

The largest part is:
Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
13 25,802,086 28,197,436 6.2 323
13 30,045,690 31,271,314 3.2 205
13 43,843,812 45,901,354 2.6 222

Roy
10-04-2019, 03:28 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fKE6hbeXUWYEUZIBiU8QKIktHmNNC5NE4wJk3NsTuyY/edit#gid=1448840466

Wow Kalash people from Pakistan score as much as Central and North Europeans. Maybe this is why some of them resemble Europeans (in particular Eastern Europeans).

J. Ketch
10-04-2019, 03:38 PM
Wow Kalash people from Pakistan score as much as Central and North Europeans. Maybe this is why some of them resemble Europeans (in particular Eastern Europeans).
I highly doubt they have as much as Steppe ancestry as Central and Northern Europeans. Not much more than 1/3 from the realistic models I've seen.

J. Ketch
10-04-2019, 03:40 PM
double

Leto
10-04-2019, 04:34 PM
Wow Kalash people from Pakistan score as much as Central and North Europeans. Maybe this is why some of them resemble Europeans (in particular Eastern Europeans).


I highly doubt they have as much as Steppe ancestry as Central and Northern Europeans. Not much more than 1/3 from the realistic models I've seen.
Most likely a Kalash


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Kit WT9532001

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 43.26
2 South_Asian 34.77
3 Baltic 11.81
4 North_Atlantic 6.86
5 Amerindian 1.76
6 Siberian 1.24
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kalash 1.29
2 Pathan 8.39
3 Burusho 10.28
4 Punjabi_Jat 10.38
5 Afghan_Pashtun 11.26
6 Sindhi 12.95
7 Balochi 13.92
8 Brahui 15.2
9 Makrani 16.89
10 Tadjik 20.35
11 Afghan_Tadjik 22.29
12 Brahmin_UP 25.03
13 Gujarati 25.34
14 Kshatriya 27.26
15 Tabassaran 28.87
16 Chechen 30.74
17 Lezgin 30.76
18 Turkmen 31.14
19 Bangladeshi 31.99
20 Kabardin 32.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Norwegian @ 0.99
2 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Irish @ 1
3 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% West_Scottish @ 1
4 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Swedish @ 1
5 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Danish @ 1.01
6 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% North_Dutch @ 1.01
7 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Orcadian @ 1.01
8 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% North_Swedish @ 1.02
9 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% Southwest_English @ 1.02
10 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% North_German @ 1.03
11 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% Southeast_English @ 1.04
12 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.06
13 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% Finnish @ 1.08
14 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% Estonian @ 1.08
15 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% South_Dutch @ 1.09
16 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% La_Brana-1 @ 1.09
17 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% East_German @ 1.1
18 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% East_Finnish @ 1.1
19 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% West_German @ 1.1
20 99% Kalash + 1% Lithuanian @ 1.11

HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Kit WT9532001

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 42.56
2 S-Indian 20.54
3 Caucasian 17.97
4 NE-Euro 14.87
5 Siberian 1.59
6 American 1.52
7 Beringian 0.57
8 NE-Asian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kalash (hgdp) 4.33
2 pathan (hgdp) 5.16
3 bhatia (harappa) 7.99
4 sindhi (harappa) 9.18
5 pashtun (harappa) 9.82
6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 9.87
7 burusho (hgdp) 10.29
8 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 10.61
9 haryana-jatt (harappa) 11.42
10 kashmiri (harappa) 12.11
11 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 13.32
12 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 13.38
13 punjabi-arain (xing) 14
14 sindhi (hgdp) 14.13
15 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 14.54
16 punjabi (harappa) 14.72
17 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 15.16
18 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 15.81
19 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 16.32
20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 16.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.1% kalash (hgdp) + 4.9% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.06
2 94.6% kalash (hgdp) + 5.4% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.12
3 81.1% bhatia (harappa) + 18.9% urkarah (xing) @ 2.16
4 94.2% kalash (hgdp) + 5.8% russian (hgdp) @ 2.28
5 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% belorussian (behar) @ 2.28
6 93.9% kalash (hgdp) + 6.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.3
7 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% russian (behar) @ 2.32
8 94.1% kalash (hgdp) + 5.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.45
9 82.1% bhatia (harappa) + 17.9% lezgin (behar) @ 2.74
10 94% kalash (hgdp) + 6% chuvash (behar) @ 2.82
11 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% slovenian (xing) @ 2.82
12 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% hungarian (behar) @ 2.89
13 84.1% bhatia (harappa) + 15.9% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.9
14 94.7% kalash (hgdp) + 5.3% n-european (xing) @ 2.9
15 94.7% kalash (hgdp) + 5.3% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.91
16 94.9% kalash (hgdp) + 5.1% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.93
17 94.8% kalash (hgdp) + 5.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3
18 81.7% bhatia (harappa) + 18.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.01
19 94.9% kalash (hgdp) + 5.1% british (1000genomes) @ 3.01
20 95.3% kalash (hgdp) + 4.7% french (hgdp) @ 3.36

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit WT9532001

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 42.51
2 South_Asian 21.39
3 North_European 17.35
4 Caucasus 15.32
5 Siberian 1.74
6 East_Asian 1.18
7 Atlantic_Med 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (HGDP) 5.98
2 Burusho (HGDP) 11.19
3 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.33
4 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 18.48
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 19.01
6 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 25.28
7 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.89
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.5
9 Makrani (HGDP) 28.8
10 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 29.16
11 Balochi (HGDP) 29.23
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 30.25
13 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 30.74
14 Indian (Dodecad) 31.2
15 Iyer (Dodecad) 33.02
16 Iranians (Behar) 33.09
17 Iyengar (Dodecad) 33.71
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 34.7
19 Brahui (HGDP) 35.16
20 GIH30 (Dodecad) 36.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 26.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.95
2 76.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 23.2% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.69
3 88.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 11.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 3.76
4 90.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 9.7% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.88
5 93.4% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.93
6 93% Pathan (HGDP) + 7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
7 93.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.06
8 93.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.07
9 93.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.07
10 94% Pathan (HGDP) + 6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.08
11 94.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 5.7% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.1
12 93.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.12
13 91.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 8.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.16
14 93.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.19
15 91.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 8.1% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.19
16 91.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 8.1% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.19
17 90.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 9.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.27
18 93.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.28
19 90.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 9.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.31
20 93.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.38

He has no Med in him. Pretty much Steppe + Indus Valley (and minor Mongoloid, 2-3% or so).

J. Ketch
10-04-2019, 04:44 PM
Most likely a Kalash


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Kit WT9532001

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 43.26
2 South_Asian 34.77
3 Baltic 11.81
4 North_Atlantic 6.86
5 Amerindian 1.76
6 Siberian 1.24
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kalash 1.29
2 Pathan 8.39
3 Burusho 10.28
4 Punjabi_Jat 10.38
5 Afghan_Pashtun 11.26
6 Sindhi 12.95
7 Balochi 13.92
8 Brahui 15.2
9 Makrani 16.89
10 Tadjik 20.35
11 Afghan_Tadjik 22.29
12 Brahmin_UP 25.03
13 Gujarati 25.34
14 Kshatriya 27.26
15 Tabassaran 28.87
16 Chechen 30.74
17 Lezgin 30.76
18 Turkmen 31.14
19 Bangladeshi 31.99
20 Kabardin 32.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Norwegian @ 0.99
2 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Irish @ 1
3 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% West_Scottish @ 1
4 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Swedish @ 1
5 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Danish @ 1.01
6 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% North_Dutch @ 1.01
7 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% Orcadian @ 1.01
8 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% North_Swedish @ 1.02
9 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% Southwest_English @ 1.02
10 98.7% Kalash + 1.3% North_German @ 1.03
11 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% Southeast_English @ 1.04
12 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.06
13 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% Finnish @ 1.08
14 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% Estonian @ 1.08
15 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% South_Dutch @ 1.09
16 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% La_Brana-1 @ 1.09
17 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% East_German @ 1.1
18 98.9% Kalash + 1.1% East_Finnish @ 1.1
19 98.8% Kalash + 1.2% West_German @ 1.1
20 99% Kalash + 1% Lithuanian @ 1.11

HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Kit WT9532001

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 42.56
2 S-Indian 20.54
3 Caucasian 17.97
4 NE-Euro 14.87
5 Siberian 1.59
6 American 1.52
7 Beringian 0.57
8 NE-Asian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kalash (hgdp) 4.33
2 pathan (hgdp) 5.16
3 bhatia (harappa) 7.99
4 sindhi (harappa) 9.18
5 pashtun (harappa) 9.82
6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 9.87
7 burusho (hgdp) 10.29
8 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 10.61
9 haryana-jatt (harappa) 11.42
10 kashmiri (harappa) 12.11
11 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 13.32
12 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 13.38
13 punjabi-arain (xing) 14
14 sindhi (hgdp) 14.13
15 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 14.54
16 punjabi (harappa) 14.72
17 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 15.16
18 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 15.81
19 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 16.32
20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 16.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.1% kalash (hgdp) + 4.9% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.06
2 94.6% kalash (hgdp) + 5.4% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.12
3 81.1% bhatia (harappa) + 18.9% urkarah (xing) @ 2.16
4 94.2% kalash (hgdp) + 5.8% russian (hgdp) @ 2.28
5 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% belorussian (behar) @ 2.28
6 93.9% kalash (hgdp) + 6.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.3
7 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% russian (behar) @ 2.32
8 94.1% kalash (hgdp) + 5.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.45
9 82.1% bhatia (harappa) + 17.9% lezgin (behar) @ 2.74
10 94% kalash (hgdp) + 6% chuvash (behar) @ 2.82
11 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% slovenian (xing) @ 2.82
12 94.3% kalash (hgdp) + 5.7% hungarian (behar) @ 2.89
13 84.1% bhatia (harappa) + 15.9% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.9
14 94.7% kalash (hgdp) + 5.3% n-european (xing) @ 2.9
15 94.7% kalash (hgdp) + 5.3% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.91
16 94.9% kalash (hgdp) + 5.1% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.93
17 94.8% kalash (hgdp) + 5.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3
18 81.7% bhatia (harappa) + 18.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.01
19 94.9% kalash (hgdp) + 5.1% british (1000genomes) @ 3.01
20 95.3% kalash (hgdp) + 4.7% french (hgdp) @ 3.36

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit WT9532001

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 42.51
2 South_Asian 21.39
3 North_European 17.35
4 Caucasus 15.32
5 Siberian 1.74
6 East_Asian 1.18
7 Atlantic_Med 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (HGDP) 5.98
2 Burusho (HGDP) 11.19
3 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.33
4 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 18.48
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 19.01
6 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 25.28
7 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.89
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.5
9 Makrani (HGDP) 28.8
10 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 29.16
11 Balochi (HGDP) 29.23
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 30.25
13 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 30.74
14 Indian (Dodecad) 31.2
15 Iyer (Dodecad) 33.02
16 Iranians (Behar) 33.09
17 Iyengar (Dodecad) 33.71
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 34.7
19 Brahui (HGDP) 35.16
20 GIH30 (Dodecad) 36.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 26.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.95
2 76.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 23.2% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.69
3 88.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 11.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 3.76
4 90.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 9.7% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.88
5 93.4% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.93
6 93% Pathan (HGDP) + 7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
7 93.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.06
8 93.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.07
9 93.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.07
10 94% Pathan (HGDP) + 6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.08
11 94.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 5.7% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.1
12 93.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.12
13 91.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 8.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.16
14 93.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.19
15 91.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 8.1% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.19
16 91.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 8.1% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.19
17 90.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 9.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.27
18 93.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.28
19 90.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 9.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.31
20 93.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 6.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.38

He has no Med in him. Pretty much Steppe + Indus Valley (and minor Mongoloid, 2-3% or so).
A graph somebody posted on Anthrogenica a few days ago
https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33444&d=1569634748

Leto
10-04-2019, 04:44 PM
Yamnaya I0231 / 2910-2875 BC

Kit M655536

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 58.97
2 Baloch 30.1
3 Caucasian 5.71
4 American 3.55
5 Beringian 1.54
6 W-African 0.12

Yamnaya I0443 / 3300-2700 BC

Kit M343758

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 58.88
2 Baloch 30.38
3 Caucasian 6.26
4 American 2.14
5 Beringian 1.24
6 Mediterranean 0.87
7 W-African 0.14
8 Siberian 0.08

Yamnaya RISE552 / 2849-2146 BC

Kit M828815

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 55.97
2 Baloch 33.28
3 Caucasian 6.67
4 American 2.52
5 W-African 0.83
6 Beringian 0.72

Yamnaya Karagash_EBA

Kit EC6128480

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 55.5
2 Baloch 30.94
3 Caucasian 7.58
4 American 4.12
5 Beringian 1.57
6 S-Indian 0.18
7 Mediterranean 0.12

Leto
10-04-2019, 04:52 PM
A graph somebody posted on Anthrogenica a few days ago

Tyumen HG is Western Siberian HG? I believe it was supposedly a mix of EHG, ANE and East Eurasian. About 20% EE or so.

Too bad they didn't include Southern Europeans and Caucasians.