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Pribislav

06-13-2018, 05:09 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_(region)

http://banija.rs/images/slike/galerija/Banijsko_vece_u_Novom_Sadu/7._banijsko_vece_u_Novom_Sadu_03.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-8H6N6TK5Et4/UXu9Qh6tOrI/AAAAAAAAA28/Vx51b7TnX_I/s640/Banijci.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PA_ne2KUVVw/Vkr7CrShpzI/AAAAAAAADbI/sfbxkdZ5JCI/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252003.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-58k7qupeq2k/Vkr7VOmwf6I/AAAAAAAADaM/cfUnYdZ7Dnc/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252059.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V9T3uusE4S8/Vkr7K-p6aGI/AAAAAAAADXA/_DSS26gy6Ks/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252027.jpg
https://lh5.ggpht.com/-VXvho-xAOLM/UXu5kK3dIoI/AAAAAAAAA10/Qex2KoHB7E8/s640/Photo-0400.jpg
https://banija.net/index.php/2013-11-29-00-13-23/2013-12-05-16-39-01/image?view=image&format=raw&type=orig&id=171
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E5b53MI7tf0/Vkr7Lg7bJ6I/AAAAAAAADa0/ORdOa2mOqKo/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252030.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-syqoHxv9OWY/Vkr7LQczo3I/AAAAAAAADXQ/VF2jV9iZidk/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252029.jpg
http://banija.rs/images/slike/galerija/10_godina/Nasa_Banija_34.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j59tZGgzdQo/Vkr7Cgv_y2I/AAAAAAAADUs/qgHRwBqXBCs/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252002.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/HQIGRm-E-iU/UBo57IiZEeI/AAAAAAAAAYc/Y191CBWL_gM/s640/a%252520Gradac%2525202012_16.jpg
http://lh3.googleuser.com/-Sqrvo4PAXVk/Vkr7LyK4SiI/AAAAAAAADXg/lWPvse-V7rs/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252031.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3KEZ0QVumJU/Vkr7RLrODnI/AAAAAAAADac/-QbzI2i46Sw/s640//Banijsko_vece_2015%25252048.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pOTN0H5YUc0/V-gF-3q5nqI/AAAAAAAAECc/HmAc1Ez4n7YU_tZLTdu7Qe3MKzQD9SSCwCHM/s640/Knjizevno%Bvece%Bu%2BDvoru%2B44.jpg
https://banija.net/index.php/2013-11-29-00-13-23/2013-12-05-16-39-01/image?view=image&format=raw&type=orig&id=173
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kDne4y5oAZ4/Vkr7Ifw6HJI/AAAAAAAADa0/MrsrapyktgM/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252019.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_63F8eEWHqwk/S6zrJiKkH8I/AAAAAAAAAZo/RmRUdtUiFc0/s640/125682741056525.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aAXpswsGtps/Vq0R10svMaI/AAAAAAAADp8/jlWAWnVbRhM/s640/P1250411.jpg

citroen2cv

06-13-2018, 05:39 PM

Pontid, Dinarid, Baltid, Alpinid, Subnordid

Pribislav

06-13-2018, 05:47 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3KEZ0QVumJU/Vkr7RLrODnI/AAAAAAAADac/-QbzI2i46Sw/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252048.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AzYGyylEkQU/maxresdefault.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vNg2qK04GBU/Vkr7UaXUWiI/AAAAAAAADZ8/lRYXp8ETUCM/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252057.jpg
https://www.vesti-online.com/data/images/2017-09-12/680292_aus-02-glavna-banija2_f.jpg?1505217109
https://www.radiodunav.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/987_68291.jpg
https://www.radiodunav.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/987_6838.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BrF16LBLIto/Vkr7LOYx9mI/AAAAAAAADXM/SYSdDdotiS4/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252028.jpg
http://banija.rs/images/slike/galerija/Blinja_Badnjak/Blinja_Badnjak_2.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/-HQIGRm-E-iU/UBo57IiZEeI/AAAAAAAAAYc/Y191CBWL_gM/s640/a%252520Gradac%2525202012_16.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Sqrvo4PAXVk/Vkr7LyK4SiI/AAAAAAAADXg/lWPvse-V7rs/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252031.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vNg2qK04GBU/Vkr7UaXUWWiI/AAAAAAAADZ8/lRYXp8ETUCM/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252057.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q11i5FdTIQk/Vkr7KEtOg-I/AAAAAAAADX8/px9MVWZDUdY/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252025.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xBFPXpJ_sHs/Vkr7M6BJHYI/AAAAAAAADa8/OY9RPsg1i7o/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252034.jpg

Pribislav

06-13-2018, 06:58 PM

bump

The Blade

06-13-2018, 07:14 PM

Dinarids, Alpinids, Baltids, Norids, Gorids, Pontids, Borrebies and blends of these mainly.
Best fits - Bosnia, Croatia.
Also very good - Montenegro, Bulgaria, Slovenia, Romania, Hungary.
A good number can fit in Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria, etc.
Some are more pan-Euro and fit fine in states like Italy and France, others would pass better in Poland or Ukraine, being more Eastern shifted.

Decius

06-13-2018, 07:20 PM

A lot of Alpine/Baltid/Neo Danubian types very simaler to my moms family who are serbs from Banija.

Pribislav

06-13-2018, 07:39 PM

A lot of Alpine/Baltid/Neo Danubian types very simaler to my moms family who are serbs from Banija.

Yes.
Pontid is not so common among Banija Serbs, and Dinaric is little more often than Pontid but quite less than Serbian average.

Veneda

06-13-2018, 07:59 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_(region)

http://banija.rs/images/slike/galerija/Banijsko_vece_u_Novom_Sadu/7._banijsko_vece_u_Novom_Sadu_03.jpg
All of them can pass as Polish, especially the guy in the foreground looks very familiar to me

KonanxB

06-13-2018, 08:16 PM

Mainly in Croatia.

Sikeliot

06-13-2018, 08:52 PM

they pass in all Balkan nations and possibly northeast Italy.

Jana

06-13-2018, 08:56 PM

they pass in all Balkan nations and possibly northeast Italy.

No way they pass in northeast Italy....too much slavic/balkan looking

They pass best in Croatia and Bosnia/Montenegro obviously, but they'd fit quite decently among Carpathian Slavs as well.

Btw, few very distinctive Serbian faces.

Columella

06-13-2018, 08:56 PM

I’m surprised I thought they were Ukrainians.
Large number of Alpine-Baltics (Coon’s Neo Danubians)

they pass in all Balkan nations and possibly northeast Italy.
A couple of men maybe but none of the women.
if I saw them as I said I would guess them as Ukrainian easily.

Jana

06-13-2018, 08:58 PM

Possible also in more Slavic influenced parts of Romania.

Jana

06-13-2018, 08:59 PM

I’m surprised I thought they were Ukrainians.
Large number of Alpine-Baltics (Coon’s Neo Danubians)

A couple of men maybe but none of the women.
if I saw them as I said I would guess them as Ukrainian easily.

They are Serbs from Central Croatia, it's usual look there but some people look very Serb rather than Croat.

Pribislav

06-13-2018, 10:10 PM

More Serbs from Banija

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uf9V6W_Zsbw/Vq0R9SseZ7I/AAAAAAAADpQ/fMxYmOi906w/s640/P1250445.jpg
https://lh5.ggpht.com/-ZjAO_LnhQFQ/UXu5gGV5B_I/AAAAAAAAA00/PoItjrDZ2J0/s640/Photo-0391.jpg
https://www.radiodunav.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Banijsko-veče-Basnja-Junaković-03.03.2018-Momo-i-dodir-8-Banijsko-veče-1-768x512.jpg
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vfoB2T8Bg0c/Vkr7J99J3tI/AAAAAAAADW0/mH4sZJbUot0/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252024.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/sdss.hr/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ja.jpg?fit=630%2C420
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3FR0Buj5erI/V-gF-8v-0_5I/AAAAAAAAECc/IWoJoV0vPbgNNeIbUi_JCVRsWrcPQXH7ACHM/s640/Knjizevno%2Bvece%2Bu%2BDvoru%2B50.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-0e-LZRKH-CU/TeLjKN-kSVI/AAAAAAAACTg/Bc1uQ8F71gE/s640/Foto20110529_44.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_63F8eEWHqwk/S6zorfiHQhI/AAAAAAAAAV4/PkCvaKxd0N4/s640/126720215053533.jpg
http://banija.rs/images/phocagallery/Banijsko_vece_Belwood/thumbs/phoca_thumbs_I_Banijsko%20vece%20Belwood%20022.jpg

Tauromachos

06-13-2018, 10:22 PM

they pass in all Balkan nations and possibly northeast Italy.

What you mean by Balkan nations?

Alot of them don't pass as Greeks they have features that are atypical for Greeks.

Randulf

06-13-2018, 10:35 PM

baltids alpinids subnordids borrebies

Pribislav

06-13-2018, 10:48 PM

No way they pass in northeast Italy....too much slavic/balkan looking

They pass best in Croatia and Bosnia/Montenegro obviously, but they'd fit quite decently among Carpathian Slavs as well.

Btw, few very distinctive Serbian faces.

On average they look like Croatians from central Croatia and Slavonia to me.

Pribislav

06-13-2018, 10:58 PM

they pass in all Balkan nations and possibly northeast Italy.

Woman left (with blue eyes) gives me northern Italian vibe.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Sqrvo4PAXVk/Vkr7LyK4SiI/AAAAAAAADXg/lWPvse-V7rs/s640/Banijsko_vece_2015%25252031.jpg

Jana

06-13-2018, 11:41 PM

On average they look like Croatians from central Croatia and Slavonia to me.

Yes, absolutely. Slavonia & central Croatia is their best fit :)

Odin

06-14-2018, 07:25 AM

Mainly Gorids, Neo-Danubians, and few Dinarids/Pontids.

Pribislav

06-16-2018, 12:46 AM

What you mean by Balkan nations?

Alot of them don't pass as Greeks they have features that are atypical for Greeks.

There is no such a tinng as Balkan phenotype, genetic, architecture, culture, mentality... Balkan is diverse place, even in within one nation.

Mortimer

06-16-2018, 01:07 AM

I voted all slavic countries except montenegro and macedonia because they have strong greek/illyrian/balkan component. And they would fit in austria and italy and such too but i think they fit slightly better in eastern europe.

Mortimer

06-16-2018, 01:08 AM

Would I pass among them? I think my eyes and hair would give me away, nothing else so much.

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35356108_1026535037497770_6745736310100590592_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=2f275c61b9c1781f74c93491717a0438&oe=5BAA864Ehttps://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35363282_1026391847512089_4397051796678246400_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=318e07c0db9ec4599d5c214495ad19f5&oe=5BC52965https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35349809_1026391917512082_1393703281095606272_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=ca0d09b5160889f7384132c3eba02a0e&oe=5BB44E67

Pribislav

06-16-2018, 01:31 AM

Would I pass among them? I think my eyes and hair would give me away, nothing else so much.

No.
Of all ex Yu countries/regions you can fit the best in Macedonia, I would say.

Mortimer

06-16-2018, 01:34 AM

No.
Of all ex Yu countries/regions you can fit the best in Macedonia, I would say.

i think i pass in my community a) here in austria in orthodox church and b)in serbia vojvodina where im from of course on the exotic darker end of the spectrum but there are a few more who arent gypsies, well maybe i dont but i think or have feeling that i do or not much different its not as if i were black among whites

me in church please dont quote

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27867549_961657817318826_2740524083909023150_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=8384176ba245eba24395729395c02236&oe=5BA46FF7

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27971984_961657873985487_3669922389120063642_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=8e318f3f44b3bf2386c41c6ad4d231b2&oe=5BAEF4A2

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28055954_961658103985464_8195768867829577968_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=c2f8c5d7c9625e15c1ee173cfd80d9d6&oe=5BB36431

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168304_961658183985456_4263230744488366953_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=482dd2efb10b5e37c5181e2f38abeec5&oe=5B77D175

Tauromachos

06-16-2018, 07:30 AM

Mortimer

06-16-2018, 07:32 AM

Don't think so

You might pass rather as a darker type of Montenegrin in this particular picture

well maybe not with the people in the pictures but im not much different then serbs as a whole. i at least think that, but im not sure. maybe i am though. who knows.

Tauromachos

06-16-2018, 07:38 AM

There is no such a tinng as Balkan phenotype, genetic, architecture, culture, mentality... Balkan is diverse place, even in within one nation.

I agree with this^

But it was Sikeliot who claimed there is and i replied to him.

He claimed they pass in all Balkan nations and i think they don't

CommonSense

07-27-2018, 10:40 PM

They have an abundance of neo-danubians and alpines. I think they fit best in Croatia, but they can also pass in Bosnia and the eastern Balkan countries, but not in Montenegro. They could also pass in Slovenia, Hungary and Slovakia.

Krivich

07-27-2018, 11:11 PM

CommonSense

07-28-2018, 06:20 PM

Mortimer needs to take meds for OWD :rolleyes:

HungryLion

03-15-2019, 11:00 PM

Just a little bit south-estern than NW Croats i think... Just like geography say

Russki

06-13-2022, 11:48 AM

Best fits - Bosnia, Croatia.
Also very good - Montenegro, Bulgaria, Slovenia, Romania, Hungary.

They don't fit in Bulgaria... At all

Varda

06-13-2022, 12:21 PM

They don't fit in Bulgaria... At all

From their gathering. On the second video is their traditional dance ("Drmeš").

https://youtu.be/z8YStx7rCfA

https://youtu.be/tuMtgUkwwW4

Varda

06-13-2022, 12:35 PM

Serbs from Kordun (neighboring region to Banija) are more Dinaric shifted from my experience.

https://youtu.be/XB-SVFlu3aU

https://youtu.be/cFBRWjC2fhg

https://youtu.be/YYRz5_SSuDI