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cyberlorian
06-13-2018, 08:26 PM
Which one is Turanid genetically closer to? Iranid or Ladogan?

Livin
06-13-2018, 08:29 PM
ladogan

Congolese Rice
06-13-2018, 09:33 PM
Not Iranid, Iranids are like Kurds, Persians, Balochs etc whilst Turanids are mainly central asian i think.

cyberlorian
06-13-2018, 09:36 PM
Not Iranid, Iranids are like Kurds, Persians, Balochs etc whilst Turanids are mainly central asian i think.

But, Turkestan borders both Iran and Russia.

Congolese Rice
06-13-2018, 09:52 PM
True, but it lays in Central Asia. It also borders Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, pretty central asian influenced countries i would say xd They might have iranid vibes here and there but i think they look mainly central asian, i am not a expert though this is just my opinion haha, it could be that i am completely ignorant when it comes to iranian and central asian ppls xD in general i am only good at telling Arab admixture and african admixture, i basically suck at the rest haha

cyberlorian
06-13-2018, 09:56 PM
True, but it lays in Central Asia. It also borders Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, pretty central asian influenced countries i would say xd They might have iranid vibes here and there but i think they look mainly central asian, i am not a expert though this is just my opinion haha, it could be that i am completely ignorant when it comes to iranian and central asian ppls xD in general i am only good at telling Arab admixture and african admixture, i basically suck at the rest haha

Actually Turanid and Aralid are transition types from Europid to Mongoloid.

Laag
06-13-2019, 07:20 AM
Not Ladogan it's obvious. These are two totally different types: Ladogan is North-East Upper Paleolithic type while Turanid is Central Asian type.

Can they pass in Central Asia?
https://i.imgur.com/Vy3SlKD.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/gubdaily.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/bitcmwSJU8Y.jpg?resize=600%2C1000&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/gubdaily.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/UAjM6pQOcMI.jpg?resize=600%2C1000&ssl=1

Laag
06-13-2019, 07:25 AM
Ladogan
http://humanphenotypes.net/ladoganf.jpg
Turanid
http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/turanidf.jpg

itilvolga
06-13-2019, 07:34 AM
Ladogan is a subtype of Sibirid and East Europid while Iranid is a subtype of Orientalid. Ladogan is closer to Turanid but Iranid is more connected with Turanid just because of geographical reasons.

Laag
06-13-2019, 07:46 AM
According to Coon Ladogan is Eastern Upper Paleolithic, he placed this type in his general Upper Paleolithic category.
http://i55.tinypic.com/vo32fp.jpg

Laag
06-13-2019, 07:53 AM
An example North-East Upper Paleolithic from Coon.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe022.jpg
This type is closer to another Cro-Magnon like type: North-West European Upper Paleolithic.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe096.jpg

Turanid.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe033.jpg

Laag
06-13-2019, 07:57 AM
This type is common among North-East Europeans: Russians, Karelians, Komi people while Turanid among Asian people: Turks, Uzbeks, Tajiks.

XenophobicPrussian
06-13-2019, 07:57 AM
Not Ladogan it's obvious. These are two totally different types: Ladogan is North-East Upper Paleolithic type while Turanid is Central Asian type.

Can they pass in Central Asia?
https://i.imgur.com/Vy3SlKD.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/gubdaily.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/bitcmwSJU8Y.jpg?resize=600%2C1000&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/gubdaily.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/UAjM6pQOcMI.jpg?resize=600%2C1000&ssl=1
They don't have to pass in Central Asia to have Central Asian influence.. Mullatos and Moroccans don't pass in Sub-Saharan Africa, doesn't mean they don't have SSA admixure or features.

Stop fucking spreading your propaganda everywhere.

You're a white supremacist who's into chink women, nothing to be ashamed of so you can stop trying to justify it with silly claims. Ladogan and all other types that look Asian admixed are Asian admixed, get over it. This is what DNA says.

Kaspias
06-13-2019, 07:58 AM
Ladogan. Iranid doesn't include Mongoloid admix.

Laag
06-13-2019, 08:01 AM
They don't have to pass in Central Asia to have Central Asian influence.. Mullatos and Moroccans don't pass in Sub-Saharan Africa, doesn't mean they don't have SSA admixure or features.

Stop fucking spreading your propaganda everywhere.

You're a white supremacist who's into chink women, nothing to be ashamed of so you can stop trying to justify it with silly claims. Ladogan and all other types that look Asian admixed are Asian admixed, get over it. This is what DNA says.

They were classified as Ladogan other users not me.

Laag
06-13-2019, 08:06 AM
Ladogan and all other types that look Asian admixed are Asian admixed, get over it. This is what DNA says.

Ladogan is Cro-Magnon like type. Cro-Magnons were Mongoloids, it's a fact.

Laag
06-13-2019, 08:14 AM
I never denied that North-East Upper Paleolithic is Mongoloid influenced. It is. I only quote from Coon.

FinalFlash
06-13-2019, 09:32 AM
Erdogan

Laag
06-13-2019, 10:50 AM
Ladogan
http://humanphenotypes.net/ladoganf.jpg
Turanid
http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/turanidf.jpg
Iranid
http://humanphenotypes.net/iranidf.jpg

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 09:43 PM
Original Turanids were closer to Ladogan but many modern Central Asians Turanids are Iranid/Taurid mixed.

CrinjaNinja
04-09-2022, 11:56 PM
SmallAnt-oid.

Many modern Turanids, whether West-Central Asian or not (because they're mainly found in all Turkic peoples), have Iranid and Ladogan in them. In Middle Eastern countries, such as Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq (as Iraqi Turkmen), and even in Lebanon and Israel, there is more Iranid and/or Cappadocid (the eastern version of Keltic Nordid also known as the 'Jewish' type) in them. In Central or East Asia, there's slightly more Ladogan, but definitely notable amounts of Tungid and Sinid of a degree in them. In Europe and North Asia, definitely more Ladogan (a Baltid Cro-Magnid mix who also appears to be in Eastern European Ashkenazi Jewish individuals often mixed with Arabids and Assyroids), especially in Tatars. It depends on which region you're referring the "Turanid race" to.

So yeah, prior to the Iranid admixture which may have not existed yet in the ancient times, they're probably much closer to Ladogan and Mongoloid-resembling phenotypes.

CrinjaNinja
04-21-2022, 06:35 PM
Ladogan Turanids, which can be solely found among Central/Eastern Europeans as well as Christian Mongols (namely the Cossacks from Central Asia), Tatars, and Ashkenazi Jews, would look like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0hlY7TXgAI7SeW.jpg
https://miro.medium.com/max/414/1*MoUp8cQeFBcX5yzjli4ScQ.jpeg

Some people on this forum like me think that Turanids are called "Mongolized Iranids" (I am mainly referring to East Asians of Choshiu type, also known as Kelticized Sinids), the Iranids that are predominantly Mongoloids by genetics, as Turkic people trace their lineage back to Mongolia, Siberia, and Northern China. I definitely get that many Turks want to claim their ancestry like this! Some of their anthropological features are passed on to the south generation by generation, up until the settlement of Taiwan (officially known as the Republic of China), which pretty much explains why Asian women almost purely of (Han) Chinese descent look so beautiful as much as white women do, like this girlie below:
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5d0d9e7262843c0001304af8/1586618890009-U8T3338OJDGUY57PU235/IMG_8758.jpg

And here's what an Iranid-Ladogan mix would look like (a Sibiro-Turanid and Dinaro-Armenoid mix):
https://cdn.allfamous.org/people/avatars/smallant-sbgs-allfamous.org.jpg

Also, Turanid is a mix of Iranid, Baltid, and Tungid, as well as Atlantid-Alpinid and Sibirid in the past. The Baltid-Tungid-Sibirid mix would represent the Ladogan phenotype.

Immanenz
04-21-2022, 10:03 PM
Ladogan Turanids, which can be solely found among Central/Eastern Europeans as well as Christian Mongols (namely the Cossacks from Central Asia), Tatars, and Ashkenazi Jews, would look like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0hlY7TXgAI7SeW.jpg


That guy looks like your neutonous "Farmer with Steppe" mixture, could pass as a frog.