Map of Germanic Y-DNA

[Dick]

https://i.imgur.com/ntr8Zyb.jpg

[Oneeye]

But English aren't Anglo Saxons.

[Dick]

But English aren't Anglo Saxons.

I know you're being sarcastic but if the map is correct then English sperm is mostly Germanic or to put it "un-metaethnically" North Sea region derived via migrants xD


https://ossusacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/historia-ingles-atiguo.jpg

[Dick]

percentage in Portugal and Galicia makes sense if we go by history as well.



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Suebic_migrations.jpg?1528942260907

[Bobby Martnen]

I'd love to raise those percentages

[Sikeliot]

But English aren't Anglo Saxons.

English are between 25-40% Anglo-Saxon according to a study, with the average around 1/3 on an autosomal level. If the y-dna is about 50-60% then this makes sense, assuming none of the mtdna is Germanic. This is lower, both in y-dna and autosomally, in England's north, west, and southern extremities.

As we also see, the eastern coast of Ireland is about 30-40% Germanic by y-dna, likely due to Vikings or indirectly Anglo-Saxon from English settlers there. Most of the rest of Ireland is 10-20%, likely for similar reasons, with the far northwest around Donegal and the far southwest in Munster such as Limerick, Kerry, Cork, and Clare being 5-10% because these regions did not mix much with non-Irish people.

[Oneeye]

English are between 25-40% Anglo-Saxon according to a study, with the average around 1/3 on an autosomal level. If the y-dna is about 50-60% then this makes sense, assuming none of the mtdna is Germanic. This is lower, both in y-dna and autosomally, in England's north, west, and southern extremities.

As we also see, the eastern coast of Ireland is about 30-40% Germanic by y-dna, likely due to Vikings or indirectly Anglo-Saxon from English settlers there. Most of the rest of Ireland is 10-20%, likely for similar reasons, with the far northwest around Donegal and the far southwest in Munster such as Limerick, Kerry, Cork, and Clare being 5-10% because these regions did not mix much with non-Irish people.


That's impossible. The Anglo Saxons brought families when they came over, wifeys and whatnot. I'm not sure if mtDNA is even suitable to be called this or that different Indo European language group. It doesn't mutate nearly as often as yDNA does.



According to the study quoted here, The East Englishmen are 38% and even the Welsh are 30%.

(Found article to show graves of Anglo Saxon women in Britain)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3407267/The-English-one-Anglo-Saxon-Study-reveals-time-immigrants-mixed-British-population.html


BTW, they're all women. (And the majority are not mixed with native Brit)


The two Iron Age samples from Hinxton are male, all other samples are female, based on Y chromosome coverage and consistent with the archaeology....



...There are striking differences in the sharing patterns of the samples, illustrated by the ratio of the number of rare alleles shared with Dutch individuals to the number shared with Spanish individuals (Fig. 2a). The middle Anglo-Saxon samples from Hinxton (HS1, HS2 and HS3) share relatively more rare variants with modern Dutch than the Iron Age samples from Hinxton (HI1 and HI2) and Linton (L). The early Anglo-Saxon samples from Oakington are more diverse with O1 and O2 being closer to the middle Anglo-Saxon samples, O4 exhibiting the same pattern as the Iron Age samples, and O3 showing an intermediate level of allele sharing, suggesting mixed ancestry. The differences between the samples are highest in low-frequency alleles and decrease with increasing allele frequency. This is consistent with mutations of lower frequency on average being younger, reflecting more recent distinct ancestry, compared with higher frequency mutations reflecting older shared ancestry.


https://media.nature.com/m685/nature-assets/ncomms/2016/160119/ncomms10408/images/ncomms10408-f2.jpg

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10408

[Dick]

ancient Anglo-Saxon from Norton, England. Y-dna I1. MtDna H1a. Germanic as fuck.



http://eurogenes.blogspot.ca/2016/01/ancient-genomes-from-iron-age-roman-and.html?m=1

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uuWEsp0LNmU/Vp63QyalGzI/AAAAAAAAD6U/Bnd5tJRmTXQ/s1164/Martiniano_etal_Table_1.png

[Septentrion]

But English aren't Anglo Saxons.

Please hush! If you don’t know anything.

[Tauromachos]

Wow even Turkey 5-10%

[Septentrion]

But English aren't Anglo Saxons.

The English are Anglo - Saxons!! Anglo - Saxons only means English Saxons!! This was to made differentiate the Saxons on the continent from Germany from those in England ( “Angle - land” or land of the Angles).

[Rethel]

https://i.imgur.com/ntr8Zyb.jpg

England 50-60%??? :shocked:

[Rethel]

The English are Anglo - Saxons!! Anglo - Saxons only means English Saxons!! This was to made differentiate the Saxons on the continent from Germany from those in England ( “Angle - land” or land of the Angles).

Nope.
Bernicians, Deirians, Mercians and East Angles were Angles, Sussexians, Essexians, Wessexians etc were Saxons. Kentians were Jutes.

Beda did write something suggesting, that Angles are a part of Saxons, but it is not clear what he really meant, as Angles in Angeln until this day exist.

[Chaos One]

I2-M223.

:playball:

[Davystayn]

England 50-60%??? :shocked:

That is Ydna, combined it is about 37% in the area shaded darker blue

[Oneeye]

Please hush! If you don’t know anything.

It was sarcasm, bruh

[Oneeye]

Please hush! If you don’t know anything.

It was sarcasm, bruh

[gixajo]

...g]

Where are R1a branches considered "Germanic"?

[Rethel]

That is Ydna, combined

I know. I suspected something higher, but taking unto account, that Scandinavia has 75%, then it is not bad.