Constantinople Images

[Bosniensis]

Constantinople. (official name up to 1922) The eyes of the whole world the people called it.

Cherished by Balkan/Anatolian muslims, hated by Balkan/Anatolian orthodoxes.

The largest and most important city in Europe and the most beautiful city in Europe.

Was always considered as a "City of an Emperor" by Balkan and Anatolian peoples.

I've came to idea to share some images:

http://www.vivendi.ba/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ISTANBUL-SLIKA.jpg

https://blog.buckitdream.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/istanbul-turkey.jpg

https://paltimes.ps/uploads//images/8f01c9ce11ecff6645c25bdb24eb93a9.jpg

http://nikitravel.ba/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Istanbul-nasl-1.jpg

http://www.nashitravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/balat_district_istanbul-1500x630.jpg

http://blog.istanbultourstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/istanbul_museums_summer.jpg

https://www.weloveist.com/wp-content/uploads/fatih-mosque.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/inside-fatih-mosque-istanbul-turkey-may-conqueror-s-one-largest-examples-32262025.jpg

https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/2015/11/21/1448046666943.jpg

http://luxuryistanbul.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1-2.jpg

http://www.worldfortravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Beautifu-lS%C3%BCleymaniye-Mosque.jpg

[Bobby Martnen]

Cherished by Balkan/Anatolian muslims, hated by Balkan/Anatolian orthodoxes.


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Orthodox Christians have always loved Constantinople

[Bosniensis]

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Orthodox Christians have always loved Constantinople

That was before People of Constantinople accepted Islam, now they hate it. They believe it should be orthodox like before which is ridiculous.

But still I believe it’s the most beautiful city, I’ve been there once and I plan to go again.

Have you been there?


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[Bobby Martnen]

That was before People of Constantinople accepted Islam, now they hate it. They believe it should be orthodox like before which is ridiculous.

But still I believe it’s the most beautiful city, I’ve been there once and I plan to go again.

Have you been there?


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Constantinople had a huge Christian population until the 1920s. Wanting to reclaim something that was once yours isn't really "hate", it's irredentism.

[Bosniensis]

Constantinople had a huge Christian population until the 1920s. Wanting to reclaim something that was once yours isn't really "hate", it's irredentism.

You don’t get it don’t you?

Those Christian people are still there but converted to Islam.

Only few left.


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[Bobby Martnen]

You don’t get it don’t you?

Those Christian people are still there but converted to Islam.

Only few left.


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Most of the Christians still in Constantinople in 1920 moved to Greece, and didn't convert to Islam.

But you're right that a lot of Christians became Moslem during Ottoman days.

[Bosniensis]

Most of the Christians still in Constantinople in 1920 moved to Greece, and didn't convert to Islam.

But you're right that a lot of Christians became Moslem during Ottoman days.

Well many Greek muslims from Greece moved to Constantinople as well

[Armenian Bishop]

Constantinople had a huge Christian population until the 1920s. Wanting to reclaim something that was once yours isn't really "hate", it's irredentism.

You're right about that!
And, this looks suspiciously like a troll thread.

[Bobby Martnen]

Well many Greek muslims from Greece moved to Constantinople as well

Correct, there was a population transfer of Christians to Greece and Moslems to Turkey in 1923

[Bosniensis]

You're right about that!
And, this looks suspiciously like a troll thread.

troll thread to share few nice images?

Who has a right to reclaim Constantinople?

Are you insane?

Constantinople has right to reclaim Greece and end western backed orthodox uprising.

[Armenian Bishop]

This kind of summarizes it:


Correct, there was a population transfer of Christians to Greece and Moslems to Turkey in 1923

[Bosniensis]

This kind of summarizes it:

What about Greeks who were expelled by Orthodoxes to Constantinople?

[Armenian Bishop]

troll thread to share few nice images?

Who has a right to reclaim Constantinople?

Are you insane?

Constantinople has right to reclaim Greece and end western backed orthodox uprising.

:rotfl:

[Bobby Martnen]

What about Greeks who were expelled by Orthodoxes to Constantinople?

Greece chose to build a nation based on religion, so if you're not Orthodox, you're not Greek.

Just like how you have to be Catholic, Orthodox, or Moslem to be Croat, Serb, or Bosniak.

[Bosniensis]

Greece chose to build a nation based on religion, so if you're not Orthodox, you're not Greek.

Just like how you have to be Catholic, Orthodox, or Moslem to be Croat, Serb, or Bosniak.

Well we used to call Orthodoxes "disbelievers" and they did not had any rights.

Majority of Greeks in Constantinople and Anatolia are muslims not Orthodoxes.

They only recently became "a nation" who were helped by Western Powers but they are minority.

Minority can't claim rights over Majority and they are well aware of that... but remain silent.

The fact that Constantinople has 2x time population of Greece is enough to think about.

"We wuz Christians we are Greeks" is laughable.

Those are villagers and farmers to whom knowledge and politics of their Capital city never arrived, so they rebelled with help of foreigners to create a nation LOL.

[Bobby Martnen]

Well we used to call Orthodoxes "disbelievers" and they did not had any rights.

Majority of Greeks in Constantinople and Anatolia are muslims not Orthodoxes.

They only recently became "a nation" who were helped by Western Powers but they are minority.

Minority can't claim rights over Majority and they are well aware of that... but remain silent.

The fact that Constantinople has 2x time population of Greece is enough to think about.

"We wuz Christians we are Greeks" is laughable.

Those are villagers and farmers to whom knowledge and politics of their Capital city never arrived, so they rebelled with help of foreigners to create a nation LOL.

Christians were always the majority in modern-day Greece, but you're right that most Moslem Turks do have Greek ancestry in Anatolia.

[Mens-Sarda]

You don’t get it don’t you?

Those Christian people are still there but converted to Islam.

Only few left.


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They didn't converted, most of Christians were forced to leave the city after the anti-Greek riots of 1955. From 1955 to 1960 the Greek population of Constantinopolis decreased from 65,108 to 49,081. The number today is about 2500.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom

[itilvolga]

This thread’s title must change as Istanbul Images. The city’s name is officially Istanbul today, not Constantinople.

[Armenian Bishop]

They didn't converted, most of Christians were forced to leave the city after the anti-Greek riots of 1955. From 1955 to 1960 the Greek population of Constantinopolis decreased from 65,108 to 49,081. The number today is about 2500.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom

Shameless Muslim Turks have periodically made life unbearable for the remnants of Christian Greeks and Christian Armenians, in Post Ottoman Turkey. Not only with rioting, but with a discriminatory taxation system, as well as the destruction of cultural historic landmarks.

Naturally, the Christian minority population (of Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians) has decreased even more, since the century old tragedies of Ottoman Ethnic Cleansing Practices (also known as genocide).

[Bosniensis]

This thread’s title must change as Istanbul Images. The city’s name is officially Istanbul today, not Constantinople.

It was up to 1923 we never called it Istanbul every Turkic script here says Constantinople


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[Bosniensis]

They didn't converted, most of Christians were forced to leave the city after the anti-Greek riots of 1955. From 1955 to 1960 the Greek population of Constantinopolis decreased from 65,108 to 49,081. The number today is about 2500.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom

Who is more numerous Anatolians who converted to Islam or modern day Greeks?

Answer is Anatolians and Constantinople many times outnumber Christians

Technically Anatolians and Constantinople have claims on Greece as much as Greeks on Constantinople

You talk about Pogrom of Greeks from Constatninople?

Let's talk about Pogrom of Muslims from Greece, Serbia, etc... all fled to Constantinople.

[Armenian Bishop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEBKVZ74KQQ

Armenian journalist Hrant Dink assassinated in Istanbul (2007).
Welcome to 21st Century modern day Istanbul (Constantinople).

[Ajeje Brazorf]

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΠΟΛΙΣ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX4UJv-eIjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTXzIPgR_zw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFXiLbnQhgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iby4sWupkjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQqwUsM71E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ptVEBj2Cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pGlRuoyQpM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-gUqt1GvHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0fflXZvaNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4nC3N7BFDs

[itilvolga]

It was up to 1923 we never called it Istanbul every Turkic script here says Constantinople


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Who the fuck cares. Its name is officially Istanbul and you have to call it like that. Otherwise we would call Balkan cities with their Ottoman Turkish names for example Plovdiv as Filibe, does it sound nice to you?

[Bosniensis]

Who the fuck cares. Its name is officially Istanbul and you have to call it like that. Otherwise we would call Balkan cities with their Ottoman Turkish names for example Sarajevo as Saraybosna, does it sound nice to you?

I am sorry, but Istanbul is very young and unknown name and can't compare to 1700 year long name Constantinople named after Constantine.

even Muhammed s.a.v.s said "Al-Konstantinniye" ... if he calls it "Al-Konstantinnniye" who is Attaturk to change it? Nobody.

[itilvolga]

I am sorry, but Istanbul is very young and unknown name and can't compare to 1700 year long name Constantinople named after Constantine.

even Muhammed s.a.v.s said "Al-Konstantinniye" ... if he calls it "Al-Konstantinnniye" who is Attaturk to change it? Nobody.

are you kidding me lol during Muhammed period, there were not Ottomans or Fatih Sultan Mehmet or the name of Istanbul lol wtf

[Tauromachos]

You don’t get it don’t you?

Those Christian people are still there but converted to Islam.

Only few left.


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Go and fuck yourself


The final blow to the Greek population was on 6–7 September 1955, When the anti-Greek riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Pogrom) were orchestrated in Istanbul by the Turkish military (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_military)'s Tactical Mobilization Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_Mobilization_Group), the seat of Operation Gladio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio)'s Turkish branch; the Counter-Guerrilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Guerrilla). The events were triggered by the news that the Turkish consulate in Thessaloniki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thessaloniki), north Greece—the house where Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk) was born in 1881—had been bombed the day before.[27] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Turkey#cite_note-guven1-27) A bomb planted by a Turkish usher of the consulate, who was later arrested and confessed, incited the events. The Turkish press conveying the news in Turkey was silent about the arrest and instead insinuated that Greeks had set off the bomb. Although the mob did not explicitly call for Greeks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks) to be killed, over a dozen people died during or after the pogrom as a result of beatings and arson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arson). Jews (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews), Armenians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians) and others were also harmed. In addition to commercial targets, the mob clearly targeted property owned or administered by the Greek Orthodox Church (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church). 73 churches and 23 schools were vandalized, burned or destroyed, as were 8 asperses and 3 monasteries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monasteries).The pogrom greatly accelerated emigration of ethnic Greeks from Turkey, and the Istanbul region in particular. The Greek population of Turkey declined from 119,822 persons in 1927,[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Turkey#cite_note-demography-lab.prd.uth.gr-8) to about 7,000 by 1978. In Istanbul alone, the Greek population decreased from 65,108 to 49,081 between 1955 and 1960.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Turkey#cite_note-demography-lab.prd.uth.gr-8)
Current situation




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkjb51xluYI

[Bosniensis]

are you kidding me lol during Muhammed period, there were not Ottomans or Fatih Sultan Mehmet or the name of Istanbul lol wtf

Nobody in Bosnia said Istanbul, even if they say Istanbul.. they comment by saying "that's a constantinople".

for 1700 years Balkan and Anatolian people said Constantinople?

What is wrong with that name?

Someone waned to make people of Constantinople DETACHED from Balkans or to make Turkfication easier.... but even today.. Constantinople is Balkan/Anatolian people
they are descendants fo Constantine who learned Turkic language and adopted Islam like many Turks.

[Bosniensis]

Go and fuck yourself

Truth hurts.

I've been speaking with Orthodox people from Anatolia who confirmed that it's truth.

I had to bring this issue up cause of constant Greek trolling about Anatolians and people of Constantinople.

Your 9 million state can't compare against 80 million state, even if 20+ million were Turks your Greeks are still minority.

"a religion based nation that pose claims on Constantinople"

You are not fair at all.

Well Justinian burned down all Pagan temples yet you Clap him cause it suits your Agenda. When muslims shut down churches you were outraged...

[Mens-Sarda]

I am sorry, but Istanbul is very young and unknown name and can't compare to 1700 year long name Constantinople named after Constantine.

even Muhammed s.a.v.s said "Al-Konstantinniye" ... if he calls it "Al-Konstantinnniye" who is Attaturk to change it? Nobody.

The name Istanbul also derives from the Greek "Eis tan poleis" = to the city. Since back then most of the population when talking about it simply named it "The City".

[Tauromachos]

Truth hurts.

I've been speaking with Orthodox people from Anatolia who confirmed that it's truth.

I had to bring this issue up cause of constant Greek trolling about Anatolians and people of Constantinople.

Your 9 million state can't compare against 80 million state, even if 20+ million were Turks your Greeks are still minority.

"a religion based nation that pose claims on Constantinople"

You are not fair at all.

Well Justinian burned down all Pagan temples yet you Clap him cause it suits your Agenda. When muslims shut down churches you were outraged...

You can go and fuck yourself as often as you want.

[itilvolga]

Nobody in Bosnia said Istanbul, even if they say Istanbul.. they comment by saying "that's a constantinople".

for 1700 years Balkan and Anatolian people said Constantinople?

What is wrong with that name?

Someone waned to make people of Constantinople DETACHED from Balkans or to make Turkfication easier.... but even today.. Constantinople is Balkan/Anatolian people
they are descendants fo Constantine who learned Turkic language and adopted Islam like many Turks.

Today, Istanbul is a multicultural city that’s right but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s mainly a Turkish city with Turkish people (even if they are from different roots). Also please respect its official name, Istanbul is in Turkish Republic today and we call it as Istanbul instead of Constantinople.

[Bosniensis]

Today, Istanbul is a multicultural city that’s right but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s mainly a Turkish city with Turkish people (even if they are from different roots). Also please respect its official name, Istanbul is in Turkish Republic today and we call it as Istanbul instead of Constantinople.

Ok, Istanbul... I don't have an issue with that name but it is important to remember it's Constantinople.

You say "people from a different roots" which roots?

United Nations convention in Canada declared: "Historical Rights are an Equal to the Rights of Man"

Do you understand what that means?

If majority of modern day Turkey and "Istanbul" are Native populace who accepted Turkic language and Islam, then Greeks have NO RIGHT to Claim it as "occupied territory".

In Fact ... Turks have a Right to Claim Greece as their OWN for the reason they represent a bigger number of Hellenic people while Modern Greeks are just Orthodox Rebels who came out of nowhere in 19th century.

Greeks want to identify their ancestry with Religion, which is ridicoulus. Ancestry is identified only with Ancestry not Religion.

[itilvolga]

Ok, Istanbul... I don't have an issue with that name but it is important to remember it's Constantinople.

You say "people from a different roots" which roots?

United Nations convention in Canada declared: "Historical Rights are an Equal to the Rights of Man"

Do you understand what that means?

If majority of modern day Turkey and "Istanbul" are Native populace who accepted Turkic language and Islam, then Greeks have NO RIGHT to Claim it as "occupied territory".

In Fact ... Turks have a Right to Claim Greece as their OWN for the reason they represent a bigger number of Hellenic people while Modern Greeks are just Orthodox Rebels who came out of nowhere in 19th century.

Greeks want to identify their ancestry with Religion, which is ridicoulus. Ancestry is identified only with Ancestry not Religion.

Whatever. There are Turks from Turkic tribes as well, also Turkish people (or citizens, however you call) with different roots but nationally, feeling as Turkish anyway nobody became Turkish with any force so everybody should mind their own business. Shortly: Officially, the biggest city of Turkey is called as Istanbul officially, please respect it. Thanks.

[Thanas Django]

Your world view is mostly personal to you.

Everything else is your projecting of your own insecurities.

You are a "charrán"

[Böri]

There is no Constantinople. That's difficult to pronounce... Like Arabs Kooonstantiniyeeeeah? or like Greeks Constantinouuupoliiiisssss.. Those are difficult useless words. The change by Atatürk fit perfectly as the word Istanbul is easy and destroys the Roman roots of the city.

Beside this we don't give any flying heck about Orthodox or Muzzie Balkanian opinions.

[Tauromachos]

There is no Constantinople. That's difficult to pronounce... Like Arabs Kooonstantiniyeeeeah? or like Greeks Constantinouuupoliiiisssss.. Those are difficult useless words. The change by Atatürk fit perfectly as the word Istanbul is easy and destroys the Roman roots of the city.

Beside this we don't give any flying heck about Orthodox or Muzzie Balkanian opinions.

Ataturk was a Donmeh from Selanik,not even born in Istanbul.

[Böri]

Greek is one of the ugliest language you have.
The sounding is terrible. Counstantinouuuupppolisssssiii. Smirrrrniouuuuuu (Izmir).

Not to mention Arabs who speak from deep throat, almost their stomach: Wa'eee Helll Kounstantinnniyyeeah!


Same with Persian/Farsi
-Where are you from?
- Sieer, Me from Tehhhrooaann in İroooaaan

xD

On the other hand
Just look at words Turks use.
Nice-sounding, spelled very end of the tongue, very civilized upon hearing, Siberian-type pronounciation of course (language evolving inside the ice where people couldn't afford to talk from throat like with brownies):
Istanbul, Izmir, Sakarya etc.

[Tauromachos]

Greek is one of the ugliest language you have.
The sounding is terrible. Counstantinouuuupppolisssssiii

Not to mention Arabs who speak from deep throat, almost their stomach: Wa'eee Helll Kounstantinnniyyeeah!


Same with Persian/Farsi
-Where are you from?
- Sieer, Me from Tehhhrooaann in İroooaaan

xD

Turkish is ugly,barbaric primitive language without proper grammar.

Its also filled with thousands of Persian,Arabic,Armenian and Greek loan words pronounced badly since Turks were not able to pronounce these
words properly but had to cut out half of the syllables.

Thessaloniki became Selanik,Nikomedia became Isnik,Trapezounta became Tabzon,Ikonian became Konya.

Afendis became Effendi,Kefali became Kefal,Octapodi"Octupus" became Atapot

[Livin]

One of the most beautiful cities in the world!!!

Great culture,beautiful buildings,nice food,nice chicks.


The only bad the huge property in the streets.

[Tauromachos]

One of the most beautiful cities in the world!!!

Great culture,beautiful buildings,nice food,nice chicks.


The only bad the huge property in the streets.

You mean poverty

I agree in general and it deosn't matter to me that it is now Turkish its still great,only the bullshit posted by some morons against Greeks and its Greek past and origins.

[Böri]

You meet Greek in Istanbul. He calls city Constantantinoupoullis. ????*/-!!!!
Turks have burnout upon hearing this ugly, terrible sounding word.
We have a feeling like Greeks are feeling pain every single time they have to pronounce that word. xD
That's like a punishment for the whole mouth and throat LOL.

Same with Arabs. An Arab in Istanbul asking for Sabiha Gökçen airport is often like:
-How can İ go to Seeabihhheah Airpouurt? :)
What the fuck? LOL

Kurds and Persians too speak weirdo, neolithic Farming style pronounced, very repulsive sounding languages.
It's like :) Li li Sherooush hewal.

[Tauromachos]

You meet Greek in Istanbul. He calls city Constantantinoupoullis. ????*/-!!!!
Turks have burnout upon hearing this ugly, terrible sounding word.
We have a feeling like Greeks are feeling pain every single time they have to pronounce that word. xD
That's like a punishment for the whole mouth and throat LOL.

Same with Arabs. An Arab in Istanbul asking for Sabiha Gökçen airport is often like:
-How can İ go to Seeabihhheah Airpouurt? :)
What the fuck? LOL

Kurds and Persians too speak weirdo, neolithic Farming style pronounced, very repulsive sounding languages.
It's like :) Li li Sherooush hewal.

Go listen to some throat singin music of your ancestors instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2px_AWdDx5k

[Böri]

Turkish is ugly,barbaric primitive language without proper grammar.



Is that why automakers, who have nothing to do with Turkey, use Turkic words for their car brands?

Nissan -> Qashqai
Renault -> Kadjar
Porsche -> Taycan
Volkswagen -> Turan

That's not a simple choice. They make studies, spend money and they pick up.
Turkish words are good for marketing; and these automakers pick up Turkish words because they sound not only easy, but they have a nice and noble sounding.
They noted that Turkish brands boost sales.
That's historically the language of the military-bureaucratic elites originating in Siberia and ruling over masses of Indo-Europeans and Semites.

Understand Hrisstoss Dimitris Alexandropoupoulalalalakis? xD

[Tauromachos]

Is that why automakers use Turkic words for car brands?
Nissan -> Qashqai
Renault -> Kadjar
Porsche -> Taycan
Volkswagen -> Turan

That's not a simple choice. They make studies, spend money and they pick up.
Turkish words are good for marketing; and these automakers pick up Turkish words because they sound not only easy, but they have a nice and noble sounding.

Understand Hrisstoss Dimitris Alexandropoulalakis? xD

And scientist use Greek words

Now listen to throat music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2px_AWdDx5k

[Catarinense1998]

Constantinople sounds better than Istambul.

[Böri]

Constantinople sounds better than Istambul.

That's Englishized version of Greek Constantinoupoupoulissi. (xD)
The Constan- part is easy going yeah but the end part with -nople, especially -ple turn out difficult to pronounce and not good for acoustic.

[Catarinense1998]

That's Englishized version of Greek Constantinoupoupoulissi. (xD)
The Constan- part is easy going yeah but the end part with -nople, especially -ple turn out difficult to pronounce and not good for acoustic.

To a portuguese speaker is VERY easy pronouns it.Istabul is a dumb name.This city was greek, so keep the old damn name.

[Böri]

To a portuguese speaker is VERY easy pronouns it.Istabul is a dumb name.This city was greek, so keep the old damn name.

That's because you are Latino speaker who stayed under throat-pronounced Arab-Moor domination for 800 years.
You Iberians pronounce words in Arab style from throat and painful way too.

Al Rojo. Baraja. El Jose..... The -j came from the throat in painful way.
xD

[Sturmgewehr]

It is overrated, too overrated actually, I have been there, a total shit hole, yes there is a lot of history but urbanization and the huge number of people and crowds have messed it up.

I would not move there if you paid me a million dollars.

[Tauromachos]

That's Englishized version of Greek Constantinoupoupoulissi. (xD)
The Constan- part is easy going yeah but the end part with -nople, especially -ple turn out difficult to pronounce and not good for acoustic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JntsOrjFMsI

[Livin]

It is overrated, too overrated actually, I have been there, a total shit hole, yes there is a lot of history but urbanization and the huge number of people and crowds have messed it up.

I would not move there if you paid me a million dollars.

hahahaha ye stay to elbasan troll

[Böri]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JntsOrjFMsI

Papou Dimitridiakissoss ;)

[Sturmgewehr]

hahahaha ye stay to elbasan troll

any day, I will let you enjoy the smell of sewers, pollution and ottoman farts in crowded places.

By the way I am not from Albania you illiterate.

[Livin]

any day, I will let you enjoy the smell of sewers, pollution and ottoman farts in crowded places.

By the way I am not from Albania you illiterate.

I have been there 5 times and the city has nothing bad with exception the big poverty.

Its 12 million city,its normal to all these things.


You are northern Macedonian? ;)

[Catarinense1998]

That's because you are Latino speaker who stayed under throat-pronounced Arab-Moor domination for 800 years.
You Iberians pronounce words in Arab style from throat and painful way too.

Al Rojo. Baraja. El Jose..... The -j came from the throat in painful way.
xD

Dumbass.Portugal was completely reconquisted in 1249.What about your skills in mathemathic?

[Sturmgewehr]

I have been there 5 times and the city has nothing bad with exception the big poverty.

Its 12 million city,its normal to all these things.


You are northern Macedonian? ;)

I have been there once and I do not have the will to go back, it is good to visit, seeing the mosques, historical sites and so on but once I am done sightseeing I am out of there as soon as possible, living there is out of the question, I would definitely not wanna raise kids with future respiratory issues, not only in Istambul but in any city with a population over 3 million where pollution, crime and stress is dominating the human dynamics. NO WAY.

Yeah, Northern Macedonia, in a while we will unite with the rest of Macedonia, you just wait.

[Tauromachos]

Yeah, Northern Macedonia, in a while we will unite with the rest of Macedonia, you just wait.

Ok we wait

Don't forget to tell us when you are united

[Bosniensis]

Greeks are secretly in love with Constantinople (Istanbul) but they must spit on it to present themselves as "a good Christians" to other Europeans.

[Tauromachos]

Greeks are secretly in love with Constantinople (Istanbul) but they must spit on it to present themselves as "a good Christians" to other Europeans.

Never seen a Greek spiting on Constantinople

Constantinople is still the Capital of the Greek Christian Orthodox Church

[DarknessWin]

Constantinople was a great city , now is a muslim crap city called Instabul and only Agia Sofia remind the past

[Div1]

It's like shit and piss for me. Formerly it was the capital of the multicultural toilet known as Byzantium, and got invaded and replaced by mongrelized wannabe Turanic/Arab/Kavkaz horsefuckers..

Did we lose anything?

Byzantium was a fucking abomination in European history. From the beginning as the Eastern Roman Empire, it was already far more mongrelized and semitic than anything in the western half except for possibly the city of Rome itself which was just on par with how the east was. It is a thoroughly eastern government and culture, the Emperor was almost a divine being even if they were Christian (look at the fucking fawning over they still get by Orthos plastering religious icons of them everywhere, is there a king in German, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, English, Polish, Hungarian history etc that gets the fucking treatment Orthos give every generic emperor of Byzantium?), the court was filled with eunuchs, governors, magistrates, merchants, nobility, royal family all engaged in obtuse plotting and conspiracy against each like a fucking Game of Thrones episode, this existed in other parts of Europe however it was sparse and usually indicative of a dynasty on the verge of collapse, in Byzantium it was the default state of operation. Hell the city of Constantinople itself should disgust us, a literal bridge between our fatherland and the hordes of the east, a trading hub who's sole purpose is the exchange of money and goods and the stepping stone for the filth of the middle east to come here. It should have been a fortress, guarded by thousands of men ready to repel any incursion from the east, not a open gate for any shitskin with a purse of silver coins to enter.

[Tauromachos]

It's like shit and piss for me. Formerly it was the capital of the multicultural toilet known as Byzantium, and got invaded and replaced by mongrelized wannabe Turanic/Arab/Kavkaz horsefuckers..

Did we lose anything?

Byzantium was a fucking abomination in European history. From the beginning as the Eastern Roman Empire, it was already far more mongrelized and semitic than anything in the western half except for possibly the city of Rome itself which was just on par with how the east was.

Albanians and their IQ are an abomination and disgrace for Europeans and for the history and culture of the Southern Balkan peninsular.

[Kamal900]

It's like shit and piss for me. Formerly it was the capital of the multicultural toilet known as Byzantium, and got invaded and replaced by mongrelized wannabe Turanic/Arab/Kavkaz horsefuckers..

Did we lose anything?

Byzantium was a fucking abomination in European history. From the beginning as the Eastern Roman Empire, it was already far more mongrelized and semitic than anything in the western half except for possibly the city of Rome itself which was just on par with how the east was. It is a thoroughly eastern government and culture, the Emperor was almost a divine being even if they were Christian (look at the fucking fawning over they still get by Orthos plastering religious icons of them everywhere, is there a king in German, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, English, Polish, Hungarian history etc that gets the fucking treatment Orthos give every generic emperor of Byzantium?), the court was filled with eunuchs, governors, magistrates, merchants, nobility, royal family all engaged in obtuse plotting and conspiracy against each like a fucking Game of Thrones episode, this existed in other parts of Europe however it was sparse and usually indicative of a dynasty on the verge of collapse, in Byzantium it was the default state of operation. Hell the city of Constantinople itself should disgust us, a literal bridge between our fatherland and the hordes of the east, a trading hub who's sole purpose is the exchange of money and goods and the stepping stone for the filth of the middle east to come here. It should have been a fortress, guarded by thousands of men ready to repel any incursion from the east, not a open gate for any shitskin with a purse of silver coins to enter.

*ahem* We Arabs never managed to conquer the city during the height of the Abbasid empire, and it was conquered by the Turks after requiring Artillery weapons that was previously absent in the middle east. They managed to keep the Arabs at bay by their weapon, the Greek fire, which can burn ships in a matter of seconds back then with the help of the Bulgarian empire of course.

[Bosniensis]

Never seen a Greek spiting on Constantinople

Constantinople is still the Capital of the Greek Christian Orthodox Church

If only it had any other language beside Turkic.. I can't stand Turkic language... my ears hurt when I hear Turkic.

Why they don't speak Greek is beyond me, it's much better and easier language.

[Mr_anadolu]

I never liked Istanbul aka Constantinople now its all full of Syrians. I think I'll just stick to the coastline.

[Mr_anadolu]

That's because we are not Greek that's why we speak Turkic.

[Bosniensis]

That's because we are not Greek that's why we speak Turkic.

My grand grandfather spoke Turkish, he wasn't Turk.

100 milion Africans are speaking French, are they French?

Language =/ people.

[Böri]

My grand grandfather spoke Turkish, he wasn't Turk.

100 milion Africans are speaking French, are they French?

Language =/ people.

In our case that's genetically established you ugly face rat.
Your grandfather was Serb who spoke Turkish? You are now 'Bosniak' speaking Slavic... Who knows next generation what you will become and speak whateva?

[Bosniensis]

In our case that's genetically established you ugly face rat.
Your grandfather was Serb who spoke Turkish? You are now 'Bosniak' speaking Slavic... Who knows next generation what you will become and speak whateva?

"Turk" signifies only that you have accepted Turkic culture and you have mixed with Turks.

"Turk" is similar like "American" and you know how diverse are Americans.

[Yaglakar]

*ahem* We Arabs never managed to conquer the city during the height of the Abbasid empire, and it was conquered by the Turks after requiring Artillery weapons that was previously absent in the middle east. They managed to keep the Arabs at bay by their weapon, the Greek fire, which can burn ships in a matter of seconds back then with the help of the Bulgarian empire of course.

Is there a problem with surrounding the city and waiting for a few years, until the defenders starve out and surrender? Artillery does not "break" walls, lol, I think you are too much into strategy games. :)

[Kamal900]

Is there a problem with surrounding the city and waiting for a few years, until the defenders starve out and surrender? Artillery does not "break" walls, lol, I think you are too much into strategy games. :)

It doesn't, yeah, but it can easily destroy ships from the 15th century AD.

[Bobby Martnen]

This thread’s title must change as Istanbul Images. The city’s name is officially Istanbul today, not Constantinople.

The true historic name of the city is Constantinople.

I don't call Persia and Siam "Iran" or "Thailand", either.

[Bobby Martnen]

It's like shit and piss for me. Formerly it was the capital of the multicultural toilet known as Byzantium, and got invaded and replaced by mongrelized wannabe Turanic/Arab/Kavkaz horsefuckers..

Did we lose anything?

Byzantium was a fucking abomination in European history. From the beginning as the Eastern Roman Empire, it was already far more mongrelized and semitic than anything in the western half except for possibly the city of Rome itself which was just on par with how the east was. It is a thoroughly eastern government and culture, the Emperor was almost a divine being even if they were Christian (look at the fucking fawning over they still get by Orthos plastering religious icons of them everywhere, is there a king in German, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, English, Polish, Hungarian history etc that gets the fucking treatment Orthos give every generic emperor of Byzantium?), the court was filled with eunuchs, governors, magistrates, merchants, nobility, royal family all engaged in obtuse plotting and conspiracy against each like a fucking Game of Thrones episode, this existed in other parts of Europe however it was sparse and usually indicative of a dynasty on the verge of collapse, in Byzantium it was the default state of operation. Hell the city of Constantinople itself should disgust us, a literal bridge between our fatherland and the hordes of the east, a trading hub who's sole purpose is the exchange of money and goods and the stepping stone for the filth of the middle east to come here. It should have been a fortress, guarded by thousands of men ready to repel any incursion from the east, not a open gate for any shitskin with a purse of silver coins to enter.

I needed a good laugh today

[itilvolga]

The true historic name of the city is Constantinople.

I don't call Persia and Siam "Iran" or "Thailand", either.

It’s your problem. Don’t call your country as USA then, cause “Native Americans” did not call it like that.

[Armenian Bishop]

It’s your problem. Don’t call your country as USA then, cause “Native Americans” did not call it like that.

That's a "red herring" distraction from the question of Ataturk's program for the Turkification of geographic names.

[Bobby Martnen]

It’s your problem. Don’t call your country as USA then, cause “Native Americans” did not call it like that.

Nope, I use traditional English names for places.

Hence Constantinople, Peking, Bombay, Persia, Leghorn; not Istanbul, Beijing, Mumbai, Iran, Livorno.

[itilvolga]

Nope, I use traditional English names for places.

Hence Constantinople, Peking, Bombay, Persia, Leghorn; not Istanbul, Beijing, Mumbai, Iran, Livorno.

then, do not write “true historic name” English people didn’t write the whole history after all so using traditional English names does not mean using true historic names. You should use their official names today

[Catarinense1998]

Nope, I use traditional English names for places.

Hence Constantinople, Peking, Bombay, Persia, Leghorn; not Istanbul, Beijing, Mumbai, Iran, Livorno.

Not forget about Adrianopolis too.Edirne sounds very bad

[Bobby Martnen]

then, do not write “true historic name” English people didn’t write the whole history after all so using traditional English names does not mean using true historic names. You should use their official names today

It's the true historic name in my language, and I refuse to corrupt the English language in the name of political correctness.

[Bobby Martnen]

Not forget about Adrianipolis too.Edirne sounds very bad

Adrianople

[Catarinense1998]

Adrianople

Yes.I writed in portuguese, sorry

[Thracian]

The original name of Constantinapol or Istanbul is Lygos.

[Böri]

The original name of Constantinapol or Istanbul is Lygos.

Vikings referred to it as Miklagard, that means Great City. It was the biggest city they had ever seen back when they were sailing and serving as mercs.
Arabs called it Al Mahsura; for Assyrians it was Yankovice.
The Persians who besieged Istanbul together with Avars, back in early 7th century AD, called it Asitane.

It has plenty of different names in different cultures and languages.