Classify Greek WW2 Hero - Angelo Klonis

[DarknessWin]

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[brennus dux gallorum]

Lol not sure about his type, but his helmet looks like 60's helmets

[DarknessWin]

Lol not sure about his type, but his helmet looks like 60's helmets

The photos are from WW2 , he was in the USA army and helmet is from them

[brennus dux gallorum]

The photos are from WW2 , he was in the USA army and helmet is from them

It makes sense, as Greek helmet was like this:
http://greekmilitary.net/WW2/2003976433318363763_rs.jpg

[The Blade]

I can't see his occiput.

[DarknessWin]

I can't see his occiput.

i know its hard ,
make a try just from his face

[DarknessWin]

It makes sense, as Greek helmet was like this:
http://greekmilitary.net/WW2/2003976433318363763_rs.jpg

He left Greece in young age and served in USA army, they make stamp with him
http://www.helleniccomserve.com/images/klonis2.jpg

[The Blade]

i know its hard ,
make a try just from his face
He could be some Cromagnid type or a mix of such and Dinarid/Norid but I can't be sure from these photos.

[DarknessWin]

He could be some Cromagnid type or a mix of such and Dinarid/Norid but I can't be sure from these photos.

I see some borreby in him also

[The Blade]

I see some borreby in him also
Well, Borreby is a CM subtype.

[Odin]

Borreby.

[brennus dux gallorum]

How do you all classify him as borreby without even being able to see his head length?

[Tauromachos]

How do you all classify him as borreby without even being able to see his head length?

Doesn't look Borreby to me neither Dinarid.

Could be Atlantid,Atlanto Med,CM or a combination of these things.

[DarknessWin]

How do you all classify him as borreby without even being able to see his head length?

From his other features

[brennus dux gallorum]

From his other features

Almost all "other features" of borreby are Nordic

[Bosniensis]

On Picture 2 he doesn't look balkan to me.. looks like a german.

[DarknessWin]

Almost all "other features" of borreby are Nordic

Are you kidding ???

Borrebies have East Baltid and Alpinid tendencies with broad and fleshy face .
Heavy bone structure and large head with high forehead.

Borrebies Short nose , Nordids long nose
Borrebies fleshy face , Nordids non fleshy
Borrebies fat nose , Nordids thin nose
Borrebies broad face , Nordids narrow face
Borrebies short cromagnoid face , Nordids long face


Also here we speak about Balkan Borreby variety

Where is exactly the same with Nordic?? Its almost opposite in the build

[brennus dux gallorum]

Are you kidding ???

Borrebies have East Baltid and Alpinid tendencies with broad and fleshy face .
Heavy bone structure and large head with high forehead.

Borrebies Short nose , Nordids long nose
Borrebies fleshy face , Nordids non fleshy
Borrebies fat nose , Nordids thin nose
Borrebies broad face , Nordids narrow face
Borrebies short cromagnoid face , Nordids long face


Also here we speak about Balkan Borreby variety

Where is exactly the same with Nordic?? Its almost opposite in the build

First of all no anthropologist refers Balkan borreby type in Greece, even though this doesn't exclude borreby in general

Secondly, what you wrote actually confirm what I said, other than nose shape and size (which in his case is far from flat and broad) facial traits are closer to Nordic type, and it's cranial traits in general that make the particular type closer to alpine

[Wrong]

First of all no anthropologist refers Balkan borreby type in Greece, even though this doesn't exclude borreby in general

Secondly, what you wrote actually confirm what I said, other than nose shape and size (which in his case is far from flat and broad) facial traits are closer to Nordic type, and it's cranial traits in general that make the particular type closer to alpine
Only the Borreby pigmentation is similar to Nordid.

The rest.. is complete opposite.

[Tauromachos]

Are you kidding ???

Borrebies have East Baltid and Alpinid tendencies with broad and fleshy face .
Heavy bone structure and large head with high forehead.

Borrebies Short nose , Nordids long nose
Borrebies fleshy face , Nordids non fleshy
Borrebies fat nose , Nordids thin nose
Borrebies broad face , Nordids narrow face
Borrebies short cromagnoid face , Nordids long face


Also here we speak about Balkan Borreby variety

Where is exactly the same with Nordic?? Its almost opposite in the build

He does not look Balkan wether its Borreby or another type there is nothing particular Balkanic about his
look

[nafz]

In this photo where he can see additional detail he looks some kind of Med with strong CM. Possible dinarid, but not sure. By the way he was originally from Kephallonia, Ionian Islands.

http://www.helleniccomserve.com/images/klonis5.jpg

[Tauromachos]

In this photo where he can see additional detail he looks some kind of Med with strong CM. Possible dinarid, but not sure. By the way he was originally from Kephallonia, Ionian Islands.

http://www.helleniccomserve.com/images/klonis5.jpg

This what i thought Atlanto Med or Med CM but in the other pictures he might be possibly classified also wihout the Med

[nafz]

This what i thought Atlanto Med or Med CM but in the other pictures he might be possibly classified also wihout the Med

The CM element is prominent in him, makes him look badass, which after all he was.

[Tauromachos]

The CM element is prominent in him, makes him look badass, which after all he was.

This is a reasonably common look for Greek people

[nafz]

This is a reasonably common look for Greek people

If you refer to his overall look yes I agree, but if you refer specifically for the CM part, not really , I don't think Greece has many CM types.

[DarknessWin]

First of all no anthropologist refers Balkan borreby type in Greece, even though this doesn't exclude borreby in general

Secondly, what you wrote actually confirm what I said, other than nose shape and size (which in his case is far from flat and broad) facial traits are closer to Nordic type, and it's cranial traits in general that make the particular type closer to alpine

:picard1:

[DarknessWin]

The CM element is prominent in him, makes him look badass, which after all he was.

He look Borreby-Pontid to me
Borreby is CM type anyway

[DarknessWin]

If you refer to his overall look yes I agree, but if you refer specifically for the CM part, not really , I don't think Greece has many CM types.

Have a lot from ancient times until today

[brennus dux gallorum]

:picard1:

OK buddy, he is pontid+cromagnon, like you classify all Greeks here (no matter if coon hardly even refers this type here)

What about Balkan borreby or any other type which doesn't even exist here

[DarknessWin]

OK buddy, he is pontid+cromagnon, like you classify all Greeks here (no matter if coon hardly even refers this type here)

What about Balkan borreby or any other type which doesn't even exist here

Of course it exist but its few
You can even find Nordid in Greece but you say that balkan Borrebies are not ???

Coon called it Atlanto Mediterranean and Pontic Mediterranean , its the same