There is NO British-Iberian connection.

[Damião de Góis]

Also, I'm not the one who states that the Basque poster BarcelonaAtlantis is 'a Mexiccan sock of Martin,' :rolleyes: (because I've seen them both on camera, have seen them arguing in the past, have known them for years, their IP's aren't proxies, they live in totally different nations and continents, have different personalities and different English skills.)


This is funny but since you keep bringing this up i did a little check and both of them have the same registration IP. Both of them have used that same IP as well (from California). What does this mean? Has BarcelonaAtlantis visited Martin in California and then both of them decided to join Apricity? :laugh:

[Cristiano viejo]

Why are you posting that OT article here for? To lamely attempt to slander British people?

She's not British, but from Northern Ireland: :picard1: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/magaluf-girl-i-was-there-she-returned-to-venue-the-very-next-day-for-more-drunken-antics-30411158.html

Why doesn't the photo and news article show the faces and identities of all the men who exposed their penises in the place and were also involved in whatever happened in Spain?

1 person doesn't represent 65+ million people.

You don't have prostitutes in Spain? https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/01/10/inenglish/1484044435_786435.html


Yes, and 99% of them are foreigners. But what the hell does that have to do in this discussion? that British sucker was not a prostitute, just a retarded girl from UK that came to Spain to suck dicks.

[Autrigón]

I mostly posted groups of working-class English and Welsh and Cornish students in comprehensive schools, Church of England schools, and in grammar schools.

Just because they're dressed in uniforms doesn't make them posh. It's a traditional and compulsory law in the UK for all students in primary, junior, and in secondary schools to wear school uniforms, regardless of their social background. They have to wear it by law.

I guess most of the working classes stem from Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and Celts... and the ruling Normans mostly became the middle classes and the upper classes/aristocracy after the Norman Conquest. Prince Charles is of Danish and Greek descent.

But it's accurate that Emma Bunton is also from a working-class background.

The identical twins in this band (Matt and Luke Goss) are from southern England and both are from working-class backgrounds (although millionaires today and living in LA.) The bass player (Craig Logan) is Scottish, but he'd pass in England too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yu0T9n5uos

Patsy Kensit is half Irish and half English. Her father was an associate of the notorious London gangsters the Kray twins. Her grandfather was a robber and a counterfeiter.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PYqUHfTMA

A working-class accent from East London

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpMGeri Halliwell (The ex-Spice Girl) is half English half Spaniard. Their parents had a great connection. Omg I've said the word "connection" please someone bann me!!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/47/23/7247230eb8dc0734351072631ca95dde.jpg

https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2013/11/2013gerihalliwellPA-13896798250713.jpg

[♥ Lily ♥]

This is funny but since you keep bringing this up i did a little check and both of them have the same registration IP. Both of them have used that same IP as well (from California). What does this mean? Has BarcelonaAtlantis visited Martin in California and then both of them decided to join Apricity? :laugh:

I know for a fact they're both totally different people. :) What was Martin's username?

[♥ Lily ♥]

Geri Halliwell (The ex-Spice Girl) is half English half Spaniard.


Nope, she's 1/4 Swedish and 1/4 English and half Spanish.

[Autrigón]

Nope, she's 1/4 Swedish and 1/4 English and half Spanish.Come on Lily develop your sense of humor. If you felt insulted for any of my post I apologize for that. Anyway I only used the word "shit" to refer the arguments not as an insult directly for you.
I don't know maybe in English the word shit sounds harsh or something but I use it a lot even for the good things, example: I like this food, this shit is very good!!

I'm not a disrespectful person, I like dolphins and monkeys. The red asses of the monkeys make me laugh.

[Profileid]

This is funny but since you keep bringing this up i did a little check and both of them have the same registration IP. Both of them have used that same IP as well (from California). What does this mean? Has BarcelonaAtlantis visited Martin in California and then both of them decided to join Apricity? :laugh:

Mn1 being the same person as BarcelonaAtlantis would probably be the most mind blowing thing in TA history.
Anyone who remembers Mn1 posting here can testify to the fact he was fucking retarded. How would someone who can't speak a single language fluently be able to form bizarre theories about history and religion?

[♥ Lily ♥]

Come on Lily develop your sense of humor. If you felt insulted for any of my post I apologize for that. Anyway I only used the word "shit" to refer the arguments not as an insult directly for you.
I don't know maybe in English the word shit sounds harsh or something but I use it a lot even for the good things, example: I like this food, this shit is very good!!

I'm not a disrespectful person, I like dolphins and monkeys. The red asses of the monkeys make me laugh.

Hi, there's no need to apologise as I didn't feel insulted. :)

[B01AB20]

And if BarcelonaAtlantis is indeed iberian, what would it prove?

All of us would be responsible for the crazy shit that that nutcase is spamming here and there?

Fantastic.

[de Burgh II]

Mn1 being the same person as BarcelonaAtlantis would probably be the most mind blowing thing in TA history.
Anyone who remembers Mn1 posting here can testify to the fact he was fucking retarded. How would someone who can't speak a single language fluently be able to form bizarre theories about history and religion?

I do know Mn1 had an obsessive predilection with Iberian history, but Barcelona seemed like an mentally-imbalanced spam-bot on crack with his pseudo-theoretical origin stories mostly concerning Basques.

I did a quick search on youtube and found Barcelona's channel that has his typical long-winded theories:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_MPsNVO0225HW-c0AOim8g

Mn1 wasn't hard to find because he usually linked random UFC fights on his youtube channel or wrestling taunting gifs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/IgnorantKiller123

[Profileid]

I do know Mn1 had an obsessive predilection with Iberian history, but Barcelona seemed like an mentally-imbalanced spam-bot on crack with his pseudo-theoretical origin stories mostly concerning Basques.

I did a quick search on youtube and found Barcelona's channel that has his typical long-winded theories:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_MPsNVO0225HW-c0AOim8g

Mn1 wasn't hard to find because he usually linked random UFC fights on his youtube channel or wrestling taunting gifs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/IgnorantKiller123
Barcelona was still lucid enough to whine to a mod when I mass thumbed down his stupid shit. Funny

[Heather Duval]

lol the thing i found funny is: in uk your accent can change by social class
lol they seem a classist society

[Heather Duval]

Barcelona was still lucid enough to whine to a mod when I mass thumbed down his stupid shit. Funny

can u tell apart british accents
posh vc low class?

[Profileid]

can u tell apart british accents
posh vc low class?

kind of. it's all from media

[Cuore di Tenebra]

can u tell apart british accents
posh vc low class?

The accent of the girl must be very upper class. ;)

https://youtu.be/3wgcOsTY1iY

[Latinus]

No offence but her face screams low class. Regardless of society upper class people have what I call 'narrow features.' I've noticed this from dealing with all types of people.

Interesting, I thought low class phenotype thing was more of a Latin America phenomenon.

[Tietar]

They weren't dressed in 'suits' but in uniforms and are from ordinary comprehensive schools and CoE schools for the working classes. Maybe working class schools are 'posh' or 'upper class' to you, huh?! :confused:

maybe you should have looked for british people like this to avoid confusion, in the same way you showed the Basques

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/londonprotest_12_10/l04_26264305.jpg

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Interesting, I thought low class phenotype thing was more of a Latin America phenomenon.

In Latin America it revolves completely around race where someone's opportunities may be limited because of their race/being mixed race even if they show talent, while someone who is White will be put on a pedestal regardless of talent and even if they look what would be considered low class in any European country. What matters is that the person is White and so that opens doors for them that an Indio from Chiapas with an IQ of 160 would have trouble opening. Latin America is incredibly racist. SjW in the US don't know what real racism is actually like.

In Europe and the US there is more of a natural order. To be White in of itself doesn't get you a free pass. So particular phenotypes stick out more in some areas of life than others.

Have you ever come across a doctor, district attorney, engineer, etc. who looks like either of these men?

http://www.fightsports.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Lenny.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Manolo_WM_2006.jpg/220px-Manolo_WM_2006.jpg

Every such person I've come across has been an ectomorph or predominately ectomorph but leaning somewhat towards mesomorph.

I just remembered one professor I had who was an endomorph.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

I do know Mn1 had an obsessive predilection with Iberian history, but Barcelona seemed like an mentally-imbalanced spam-bot on crack with his pseudo-theoretical origin stories mostly concerning Basques.

I did a quick search on youtube and found Barcelona's channel that has his typical long-winded theories:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_MPsNVO0225HW-c0AOim8g

Mn1 wasn't hard to find because he usually linked random UFC fights on his youtube channel or wrestling taunting gifs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/IgnorantKiller123

Mn1 has more interest in Spain than he does for Mexico judging from his videos. Personally I'm a big fan of Mexican history but not enough to spend time making videos about Mexico and Mexicans.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Why are you posting that OT article here for? To lamely attempt to slander British people?

She's not British, but from Northern Ireland: :picard1: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/magaluf-girl-i-was-there-she-returned-to-venue-the-very-next-day-for-more-drunken-antics-30411158.html

Why doesn't the photo and news article show the faces and identities of all the men who exposed their penises in the place and were also involved in whatever happened in Spain?

1 person doesn't represent 65+ million people.

You don't have prostitutes in Spain? https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/01/10/inenglish/1484044435_786435.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2KfabSdxQ

Northern Ireland is British. I would think what makes up the UK would be taught in school in England. Perhaps you're not familiar with the long conflict in the region: the Protestants consider themselves British (and are as descendants of predominately Scots). Unless she's Irish Catholic, which I doubt she mentioned in the video you can't claim she isn't British because of her birth place considering Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Why are you posting that OT article here for? To lamely attempt to slander British people?

She's not British, but from Northern Ireland: :picard1: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/magaluf-girl-i-was-there-she-returned-to-venue-the-very-next-day-for-more-drunken-antics-30411158.html

Why doesn't the photo and news article show the faces and identities of all the men who exposed their penises in the place and were also involved in whatever happened in Spain?

1 person doesn't represent 65+ million people.

You don't have prostitutes in Spain? https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/01/10/inenglish/1484044435_786435.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2KfabSdxQ

Did you even watch the video? The narrator specifically says the prostitutes are mostly from Romania. So you counter a video of a British girl acting slutty by posting a video of a brothel in Spain full of Romanian hookers. I don't think you're competent enough to be arguing with anyone.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

This article refers to the study I mentioned:


How having the right surname STILL sets you up for life: Our ancestors' social status determines how rich we'll be, study claims


Experts analysed the social movement of unusual surnames across the UK

This included Oxford and Cambridge students between 1170 and 2012, rich property owners between 1236 and 1299, and the national probate registry

Rare surnames included Atthill, Bunduck, Balfour, Bramston and Cheslyn

Experts found that that social status is consistently passed down among families over multiple generations

If your ancestors were members of the upper class, chances are you will be - even centuries after they've died.

Researchers have found that a person's surname is a strong indicator of social status, going back generations, and a status from years ago can still exert its influence on a person's life today.

In fact, the study found that social status is more consistently passed down among families over hundreds of years, than height.

The results were published by Gregory Clark from the University of California, Davis and Neil Cummins from the London School of Economics in the journal Human Nature.

They used the Oxbridge attendance of people with rare English surnames to track social mobility from 1170 to 2012.

They discovered that social mobility in England has always been slow, and today it is not much greater than it was in pre-industrial times.

Social mobility is the movement of individuals, or families, between social classes.

They discovered that social mobility in England has always been slow, and today it is not much greater than it was in pre-industrial times.

Social mobility is the movement of individuals, or families, between social classes.

Social status is generally seen as a ranking of families and is based on a variety of elements including education, their income, wealth, occupation, and health.

Mr Clark and Mr Cummings used databases to calculate the social trajectory of families with rare English surnames over the past 28 generations.

They analysed the surnames of students who attended Oxford and Cambridge universities between 1170 and 2012, rich property owners between 1236 and 1299, as well as the national probate registry since 1858.

These databases were used as they indicate that the people included on them are of a high social standing, as well as highly educated.

The names on them were also cross-referenced with each to get a wider, overall picture about a family's social standing.

Rare surnames studied included Atthill, Bunduck, Balfour, Bramston, Cheslyn, and Conyngham.

The researchers chose rare surnames as it was more likely that the different records would refer to direct descendants.

They found that social status is consistently passed down among families over multiple generations.

For example, members of the Bunduck family attended the universities consistently from the 12th century until the modern day - shown because their name regularly appeared on the register throughout.

This suggests that the Bunducks of the 12th century had enough standing and intelligence to attend the university, but so did their ancestor's ancestors.

The Bunducks were additionally found on the rich property owners' database, which also suggested they were of a higher class.

'Strong forces of familial culture, social connections, and genetics must connect the generations,' said Mr Clark.

'Even more remarkable is the lack of a sign of any decline in status persistence across major institutional changes, such as the Industrial Revolution of the eighteenth century, the spread of universal schooling in the late nineteenth century, or the rise of the social democratic state in the twentieth century,' added Mr Cummins.

'Status persistence measured by education status is just as strong now as in the pre-industrial era.'

They said their findings show there 'really are quasi-physical "Laws of Inheritance."'



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/18/2344341A00000578-2838183-This_chart_plots_the_relative_frequency_of_the_sel ected_surnames-68_1416315477747.jpg
This chart plots the relative frequency of the selected surnames compared to their educational status. This is plotted against the general population and the elite groups over two different generations. The study found that social status is more consistently passed down among families over hundreds of years, than height

I don't remember where I saw the actual study but I'll look for it later. I know Gregory Clark wrote "A Farewell to Alms" and so maybe I'm thinking of the book that references the study.

[Heather Duval]

In Latin America it revolves completely around race where someone's opportunities may be limited because of their race/being mixed race even if they show talent, while someone who is White will be put on a pedestal regardless of talent and even if they look what would be considered low class in any European country. What matters is that the person is White and so that opens doors for them that an Indio from Chiapas with an IQ of 160 would have trouble opening. Latin America is incredibly racist. SjW in the US don't know what real racism is actually like.

In Europe and the US there is more of a natural order. To be White in of itself doesn't get you a free pass. So particular phenotypes stick out more in some areas of life than others.

Have you ever come across a doctor, district attorney, engineer, etc. who looks like either of these men?

http://www.fightsports.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Lenny.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Manolo_WM_2006.jpg/220px-Manolo_WM_2006.jpg

Every such person I've come across has been an ectomorph or predominately ectomorph but leaning somewhat towards mesomorph.

I just remembered one professor I had who was an endomorph.

But they said here low class Brits are atlantids and higher classes are more blondes etc. Emma Button is blonde so it doesnt make sense. Yes, reasoning many light mongrels here thinks to be white because it gives u status.

[Antimage]

This is funny but since you keep bringing this up i did a little check and both of them have the same registration IP. Both of them have used that same IP as well (from California). What does this mean? Has BarcelonaAtlantis visited Martin in California and then both of them decided to join Apricity? :laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/PHXVQfe.gif

[Antimage]

Tooting Carmen is half Welsh and half South American.
And? He lives in Wales, so he has experience of a Welsh/British person, so I think he's credible when he talks about British phenotypes.




I've never claimed that nor considered Sikeliot as being Iberian, so laugh away. :)

This is how the conversation looked like:


I've often seen Iberians asking 'does this man pass in Great Britain and Ireland', etc. Grace is proud of her Irish ancestry, for example.


Who ask this? Which members?


Sikeliot does
So yes, you implied Sikeliot was Iberian. Anyone can read this convo between you and Endovélico on 8th and 9th pages.





Could you show me some proof that he's using a VPN
Endovélico showed - they have the same registration IPs. Now you show me proof he's not using VPN.


I know for a fact they're both totally different people. :)
:bored: Why are they not the same person? Because you said so? :laugh: "Facts"


Mn1 being the same person as BarcelonaAtlantis would probably be the most mind blowing thing in TA history.
Anyone who remembers Mn1 posting here can testify to the fact he was fucking retarded. How would someone who can't speak a single language fluently be able to form bizarre theories about history and religion?

Nothing strange about it. I'm pretty sure he copied the stuff he spammed here from some fringe theory website, he didn't make it up by himself.
Plus there were often hints they're the same person. Eg. both went inactive for a week then they came back to post on the same day in the exact same minute. They often suspiciously circlejerked each other also.


And if BarcelonaAtlantis is indeed iberian, what would it prove?

All of us would be responsible for the crazy shit that that nutcase is spamming here and there?

Fantastic.
He isn't.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

But they said here low class Brits are atlantids and higher classes are more blondes etc. Emma Button is blonde so it doesnt make sense. Yes, reasoning many light mongrels here thinks to be white because it gives u status.

I don't care if people here say Atlantid this or Atlantid that or blond this or blond that. I'm simply showing that there is a distinction between the upper class and rest that can be shown with surnames over many centuries.

In other words, the conversation was retarded and I made it less retarded by simply discussing an actual real difference that can be quantified.

The posts about somatotypes is my own observation.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

They likely arent the same person. But use the same VPN service and server. Its a shared vpn ip address obviously.
How you level 260 iq gensiuses couldnt guess that is beyond me.
And i spell like an autistic child with missing fingers

[♥ Lily ♥]

Endovélico showed - they have the same registration IPs. Now you show me proof he's not using VPN.

So if he delusionally thinks that BarcelonaAtlantis and Martin are 'socks' as he alleges, and Martin is permabanned... then why isn't BA permabanned?

Because he's not a sock and a totally different person in a different nation. He's Iberian. That phonecall I received from him was from Spain. I've seen both him and Martin on camera over the years.


Why are they not the same person? Because you said so? :laugh: "Facts"

Yeah, I've known them both well for many years in chat rooms and on other sites. Their writing styles are different and their personalities and interests are different. They've even argued with each other in the past for several weeks. Although Martin has helped BA out on YT by making his videos for him, and I've also helped him to create his YT channels and videos for him in the past.




He isn't.

Wrong; BarcelonaAtlantis is Iberian. Deal with the truth. If he was a sock of Martin, then he would've been permabanned... but he's not.

[Bloody]

I have never seen any racial similarity between spaniards and native white English.

Spaniards are shorter, darker, hairy and with more exotic features.

However the English seemed uglier.

I am more attracted to brunette types

English people are predominantly dark haired and medium height (short for North/central europe), they arent danes or north-germans, anglo-saxon is just a myth.

Nobody claims English and Spaniards look the same, but there is a clear connection phenotype wise... Spaniards like David de gea, Juan Mata or Nacho Monreal pass for average english men, heck there are dime a dozen of Englishmen more exotic than them ..such as mr bean, joe cole, Russell brand or even robbie williams

[Joso]

You mean the guy in your signature pic?

No, because old men cannot look fag, even less if they are ethnic Iberians :D

[Heather Duval]

Its time to be serious on here: Isnt only about whos whiter, some folk may think Iberians wants to be associeted with Northern Europeans because of that, but thats not all. The Uk shows superiority by the fact that its colonies today are powerful: USA, CANADA, Australia etc.
And there is no Iberian colony that are well suceed, simple because they did not colonize in the right way. "Colony" is also not a correct way, as they have explored Latin America only to steal their wealth and invest in their countries in Europe (which even after robbing Brazil gold, they remain poor compared to Germany and even the UK). They are going to blame the non-whites who lives in Latin America, but in the US there are more blacks than any Latin American country.
And it's the whites who have always governed politics in Latin America, they are/were all dumb enough to erquer/thrive a country in Latin America.

And they will also cite failures like Jamaica, but that does not matter since many English colonies have worked well, but no one fucking Iberian colony did the same.

OBS: British empire superiority also forces them all to speak English in social medias. :lol:
British made the Africans in the USA speak English, and now the English domination is worldwide even among Europeans

[skain]

Its time to be serious on here: Isnt only about whos whiter, some folk may think Iberians wants to be associeted with Northern Europeans because of that, but thats not all. The Uk shows superiority by the fact that its colonies today are powerful: USA, CANADA, Australia etc.
And there is no Iberian colony that are well suceed, simple because they did not colonize in the right way. "Colony" is also not a correct way, as they have explored Latin America only to steal their wealth and invest in their countries in Europe (which even after robbing Brazil gold, they remain poor compared to Germany and even the UK). They are going to blame the non-whites who lives in Latin America, but in the US there are more blacks than any Latin American country.
And it's the whites who have always governed politics in Latin America, they are/were all dumb enough to erquer/thrive a country in Latin America.

And they will also cite failures like Jamaica, but that does not matter since many English colonies have worked well, but no one fucking Iberian colony did the same.

OBS: British empire superiority also forces them all to speak English in social medias. :lol:
British made the Africans in the USA speak English, and now the English domination is worldwide even among Europeans

Yep. I agree.

[Bellbeaking]

Also agree^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Altantic facade was our dumbest theory guys :picard1:

[Cristiano viejo]

Also agree^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Altantic facade was our dumbest theory guys :picard1:

Speak for yourself. No fuckin Iberian defended such stupid theory.

[KastriotiBlood]

Its time to be serious on here: Isnt only about whos whiter, some folk may think Iberians wants to be associeted with Northern Europeans because of that, but thats not all. The Uk shows superiority by the fact that its colonies today are powerful: USA, CANADA, Australia etc.
And there is no Iberian colony that are well suceed, simple because they did not colonize in the right way. "Colony" is also not a correct way, as they have explored Latin America only to steal their wealth and invest in their countries in Europe (which even after robbing Brazil gold, they remain poor compared to Germany and even the UK). They are going to blame the non-whites who lives in Latin America, but in the US there are more blacks than any Latin American country.
And it's the whites who have always governed politics in Latin America, they are/were all dumb enough to erquer/thrive a country in Latin America.

And they will also cite failures like Jamaica, but that does not matter since many English colonies have worked well, but no one fucking Iberian colony did the same.

OBS: British empire superiority also forces them all to speak English in social medias. :lol:
British made the Africans in the USA speak English, and now the English domination is worldwide even among Europeans

The English have dominated with technology, for example guns. In terms of physical prowess and dominance the english weren't very relevant in medieval or classical times, the romans, ilyrians and ancient greeks showcased their dominance with brute strength by the sword. Whoever had bigger populations and order/civilisation ended up most successful.

Today you see that countries like England, USA etc have had the best nutrition which has allowed them to gain an advantage over other races including height which has been confirmed to be nutrition based in early years of growth. Africans seem to be prevalent with sports in england and USA, this is again due to nutrition whilst growing up. If you do some research you will find that the average height of a man in Africa is around 165cm. The average man in USA or England 100 years ago was 170cm, so what do you think has changed?

[Bellbeaking]

Speak for yourself. No fuckin Iberian defended such stupid theory.

it was mostly pushed by brit haters who couldn't take that british/irish where part of the northern european cluster

[Richard Alvarez]

Brits and Iberians look nothing alike. In fact, Iberians regularly make fun of the pasty skin of British tourists and call them "guiris".

[Steelman22]

Brits and Iberians look nothing alike. In fact, Iberians regularly make fun of the pasty skin of British tourists and call them "guiris".

whilst cleaning dishes in London alongside bengalis for 5 pounds per hour.

[Ruggery]

whilst cleaning dishes in London alongside bengalis for 5 pounds per hour.

I am not in a position to defend the Spanish but I believe that there are 3 times more British in Spain than the other way around.

[Steelman22]

I am not in a position to defend the Spanish but I believe that there are 3 times more British in Spain than the other way around.

The Beitish in Spain are retired or living there for tax reasons, or professionals who moved there foe a calmer life.

The Spanish in London are mostly moving there to do low paid jobs because they can't find work in Spain.

I am a member of a private club and many of the staff are Spanish, the rest are East European or 3rd world. That is the level of the Spanish in Europe.

[Abaddon]

Double.

[Abaddon]

whilst cleaning dishes in London alongside bengalis for 5 pounds per hour.

Including your supposed Spanish niece?

[Steelman22]

Including your supposed Spanish niece?

No, she is 6.

[Abaddon]

No, she is 6.

Nice, she has a lot of time to know about having nothing to do with you (or your country) until she grows up...