Einstein's diary reveals that he was a racist

[MissMischief]

Newly published private travel diaries have revealed Albert Einstein's racist and xenophobic views.

Written between October 1922 and March 1923, the diaries track his experiences in Asia and the Middle East.

In them, he makes sweeping and negative generalisations, for example calling the Chinese "industrious, filthy, obtuse people".

Einstein would later in life advocate for civil rights in the US, calling racism "a disease of white people".


This is the first time the diaries have been published as a standalone volume in English.

Published by Princeton University Press, The Travel Diaries of Albert Einstein: The Far East, Palestine, and Spain, 1922-1923 was edited by Ze'ev Rosenkranz, assistant director of the California Institute of Technology's Einstein Papers Project.

Einstein travelled from Spain to the Middle East and via Sri Lanka, then called Ceylon, on to China and Japan.

The physicist describes arriving in Port Said in Egypt and facing "Levantines of every shade... as if spewed from hell" who come aboard their ship to sell their goods.

He also describes his time in Colombo in Ceylon, writing of the people: "They live in great filth and considerable stench down on the ground, do little, and need little."


But the famous physicist reserves his most cutting comments for Chinese people.

According to a piece in the Guardian about the diaries, he describes Chinese children as "spiritless and obtuse", and calls it "a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races".

In other entries he calls China "a peculiar herd-like nation," and "more like automatons than people", before claiming there is "little difference" between Chinese men and women, and questioning how the men are "incapable of defending themselves" from female "fatal attraction".

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia

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Newly published private travel diaries have revealed Albert Einstein's racist and xenophobic views.
Written between October 1922 and March 1923, the diaries track his experiences in Asia and the Middle East.
In them, he makes sweeping and negative generalisations, for example calling the Chinese "industrious, filthy, obtuse people".
Einstein would later in life advocate for civil rights in the US, calling racism "a disease of white people".
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This is the first time the diaries have been published as a standalone volume in English.
Published by Princeton University Press, The Travel Diaries of Albert Einstein: The Far East, Palestine, and Spain, 1922-1923 was edited by Ze'ev Rosenkranz, assistant director of the California Institute of Technology's Einstein Papers Project.

Einstein travelled from Spain to the Middle East and via Sri Lanka, then called Ceylon, on to China and Japan.
The physicist describes arriving in Port Said in Egypt and facing "Levantines of every shade... as if spewed from hell" who come aboard their ship to sell their goods.
He also describes his time in Colombo in Ceylon, writing of the people: "They live in great filth and considerable stench down on the ground, do little, and need little."

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But the famous physicist reserves his most cutting comments for Chinese people.
According to a piece in the Guardian about the diaries, he describes Chinese children as "spiritless and obtuse", and calls it "a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races".
In other entries he calls China "a peculiar herd-like nation," and "more like automatons than people", before claiming there is "little difference" between Chinese men and women, and questioning how the men are "incapable of defending themselves" from female "fatal attraction".

Noted for both his scientific brilliance and his humanitarianism, Albert Einstein emigrated to the US in 1933 after the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party.
The Jewish scientist described racism as "a disease of white people" in a 1946 speech at Lincoln University in Pennsylvania.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44472277

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Latest revelation from Einstein travel diaries tells racist attitude from world renowned Jewish German Physicist Albert Einstein .. from his travel diaries calling the Chinese "industrious, filthy, obtuse people". He also describes Chinese children as "spiritless and obtuse", and calls it "a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races". In other entries he calls China "a peculiar herd-like nation," and "more like automatons than people", before claiming there is "little difference" between Chinese men and women, and questioning how the men are "incapable of defending themselves" from female "fatal attraction".

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44472277

Shanghaiist blog site described this as very racist remark on Chinese people.


Einstein’s diary entries share with us his experiences on ships, reflections on physics, encounters with royalty, and even hand drawings of things that caught his eye. His thoughts on his travels are a delight and yet there are portions of his journal that show he held close-minded and xenophobic attitudes towards different races, calling the Chinese “industrious, filthy, obtuse people.”

These words come as a shock because Einstein has been known not only as perhaps the most intelligent man who has ever lived, but also as a humanitarian. In 1933, he fled his home country of Germany to escape the rising wave of anti-semitism and growing power of Nazi ideology. While living as a refugee in the United States, Einstein used his own fame to ask foreign government leaders to help bring more Jewish scientists out of Germany. Einstein also empathized heavily with African Americans, even joining the NAACP in the 1940s to work against the discrimination and racism that plagued American society. He famously called racism America’s “worst disease.”

http://shanghaiist.com/2018/06/13/einst ... vel-diary/

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The publication of Albert Einstein’s private diaries detailing his tour of Asia in the 1920s reveals the theoretical physicist and humanitarian icon’s racist attitudes to the people he met on his travels, particularly the Chinese.

Written between October 1922 and March 1923, the diaries see the scientist musing on his travels, science, philosophy and art. In China, the man who 20 years later famously described racism as “a disease of white people” describes the “industrious, filthy, obtuse people” he observes.

He notes how the “Chinese don’t sit on benches while eating but squat like Europeans do when they relieve themselves out in the leafy woods. All this occurs quietly and demurely. Even the children are spiritless and look obtuse.”

After earlier writing of the “abundance of offspring” and the “fecundity” of the Chinese, he goes on to say: “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.”

Ze’ev Rosenkranz, senior editor and assistant director of the Einstein Papers Project at the California Institute of Technology, said: “I think a lot of comments strike us as pretty unpleasant – what he says about the Chinese in particular.

Rosenkranz has edited and translated The Travel Diaries of Albert Einstein, which have just been published for the first time as a stand-alone volume by Princeton University Press, including facsimiles of the diary pages.

The diaries have only previously been published in German as part of the 15-volume Collected Papers of Albert Einstein, with small supplementary translations into English. A spokesperson for Princeton University said: “This is the first time Einstein’s travel diary will be made available to anyone who isn’t a serious Einstein scholar.”

Further passages in the diaries, which are thought to have been written for Einstein’s stepdaughters in Berlin while he and his wife were travelling in Asia, Spain and Palestine, see him writing of the Chinese that “even those reduced to working like horses never give the impression of conscious suffering. A peculiar herd-like nation [ … ] often more like automatons than people”.
“They’re kind of in contrast to the public image of the great humanitarian icon. I think it’s quite a shock to read those and contrast them with his more public statements. They’re more off guard, he didn’t intend them for publication.”

He later adds, in Rosenkranz’s words, “a healthy dose of extreme misogyny” to his xenophobia with the observation: “I noticed how little difference there is between men and women; I don’t understand what kind of fatal attraction Chinese women possess which enthrals the corresponding men to such an extent that they are incapable of defending themselves against the formidable blessing of offspring”.

In Colombo in Sri Lanka, then known as Ceylon, Einstein writes of how the locals “live in great filth and considerable stench at ground level” adding that they “do little, and need little. The simple economic cycle of life.”

Einstein’s perceptions of the Japanese he meets are, in contrast, more positive: “Japanese unostentatious, decent, altogether very appealing,” he writes. “Pure souls as nowhere else among people. One has to love and admire this country.” But Rosenkranz points out that he also concludes that the “intellectual needs of this nation seem to be weaker than their artistic ones – natural disposition?”

“Einstein’s diary entries on the biological origin of the alleged intellectual inferiority of the Japanese, Chinese, and Indians are definitely not understated and can be viewed as racist – in these instances, other peoples are portrayed as being biologically inferior, a clear hallmark of racism. The disquieting comment that the Chinese may ‘supplant all other races’ is also most revealing in this regard,” writes Rosenkran

Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology. Yet the remark that must strike the modern reader as most offensive is his feigning not to understand how Chinese men can find their women sufficiently attractive to have offspring with them. In light of these instances, we must conclude that Einstein did make quite a few racist and dehumanising comments in the diary, some of which were extremely unpleasant.”

Rosenkranz said that although views like Einstein’s were prevalent at the time, they were not universal. “That’s usually the reaction I get – ‘We have to understand, he was of the zeitgeist, part of the time’ – but I think I tried here and there to give a broader context. There were other views out there, more tolerant views,” he said.

In his introduction, Rosenkranz writes how it is important to explore how a humanist icon such as Einstein – whose image was once used for a UNHCR campaign with the slogan “A bundle of belongings isn’t the only thing a refugee brings to his new country. Einstein was a refugee” – could have written xenophobic comments about the peoples he encountered.
“The answer to this question seems very relevant in today’s world, in which the hatred of the other is so rampant in so many places around the world,” he writes. “It seems that even Einstein sometimes had a very hard time recognising himself in the face of the other.”

http://www.scmp.com/culture/books/article/2150515/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-racist-views-chinese-industrious

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copied from my website.

[Marmara]

Meh, it's just some stuff he has written on his personal diary. You can't really be judgemental about it.

[Larali]

He was a man of his time, but he changed his mind, apparently.

He also regretted his involvement with the development of the atomic bomb.

[Tauromachos]

Duh shit man

[Lightshade25]

This was Einstein's past. And as you say 'Einstein would later in life advocate for civil rights in the US, calling racism "a disease of white people"'.

Einstein grew up in Germany and it was pretty racist and anti-Semitic. It's not surprising he had racist views as everybody did. But he changed and became a civil rights supporter during the time when most Americans advocated shooting and hanging black people.

I think people should judge his whole life, not by the diaries written when he didn't know any better.

[Vigilance]

Its very surprising that his views tally with mine "can't tell the difference between men and women" "they behave life robots" "they move like a herd".

[zhaoyun]

To be fair, China at that time was a pretty miserable place. It was about 15 years since the last dynasty collapsed, the country was in constant civil war with different regions ruled by warlords, 95% of the population was impoverished and most were starving, it's not a wonder he had those observations. I'm sure if someone visited Europe during its dark ages, they wouldn't be very impressed with the people either.

As far as the women not being attractive, when you're a peasant woman slaving away in near starvation, you're not going to be able to pretty yourself up. China in the 1920s was a very miserable place.

I'm pretty sure if he visits the China of today, he'd be blown away at how vastly the country's changed.

[Carlito's Way]

some of it is not even racism at all but accurate
his comments about Chinese people were some what racist though, although I do think they tend to be spiritless and heartless especially in southern chine where they burn dogs/cats alive, they torture these poor animals and it makes me realize how fucked up they have to be in the head in order for them to be doing these crazy shit without feeling bad about it

[zhaoyun]

some of it is not even racism at all but accurate
his comments about Chinese people were some what racist though, although I do think they tend to be spiritless and heartless especially in southern chine where they burn dogs/cats alive, they torture these poor animals and it makes me realize how fucked up they have to be in the head in order for them to be doing these crazy shit without feeling bad about it

That's not a common thing even throughout Southern China. The city where the dog meat festival is held at, Yulin, is actually heavily minority influenced and near the border with Vietnam. There are actually many activist groups in China fighting very hard to end and ban this practice, and that festival has largely gone down significantly in recent years.

The vast majority of Chinese are actually against eating dogs and cats. It is a huge country, when you talk about China, it's like talking about all of Europe and all of its different peoples. Are the Russians and the Spaniards the same? No.

[Carlito's Way]

That's not a common thing even throughout Southern China. The city where the dog meat festival is held at, Yulin, is actually heavily minority influenced and near the border with Vietnam. There are actually many activist groups in China fighting very hard to end and ban this practice, and that festival has largely gone down significantly in recent years.

The vast majority of Chinese are actually against eating dogs and cats. It is a huge country, when you talk about China, it's like talking about all of Europe and all of its different peoples. Are the Russians and the Spaniards the same? No.

In Mexico, plenty of Chinese restaurants have been closed down especially in Baja California because the Chinese restaurant owners were using dog meat for their dishes, most of the Chinese community in Baja California are Cantonese, and they are also known in China for eating anything with 4 legs. Yeah sure those festivals might not be common throughout Southern China but Southern China is where many people tend to eat very exotic animals and also cats and dogs, that is also the region where they eat donkey meat

[zhaoyun]

In Mexico, plenty of Chinese restaurants have been closed down especially in Baja California because the Chinese restaurant owners were using dog meat for their dishes, most of the Chinese community in Baja California are Cantonese, and they are also known in China for eating anything with 4 legs. Yeah sure those festivals might not be common throughout Southern China but Southern China is where many people tend to eat very exotic animals and also cats and dogs, that is also the region where they eat donkey meat

I seriously doubt they were using dog meat in those restaurants lol. Maybe it was a local rumor, but I seriously doubt it. Yes, the Cantonese have a reputation for eating anything with 4 legs, but even then, the vast majority actually don't eat weird meats, only a minority do. If you ever traveled there, you'd have to go out of your way to find weird meats.

[Carlito's Way]

I seriously doubt they were using dog meat in those restaurants lol. Maybe it was a local rumor, but I seriously doubt it. Yes, the Cantonese have a reputation for eating anything with 4 legs, but even then, the vast majority actually don't eat weird meats, only a minority do. If you ever traveled there, you'd have to go out of your way to find weird meats.


Dog meat found in Tijuana Chinese restaurant

source: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sdut-dog-meat-found-tijuana-chinese-restaurant-2015apr09-story.html

"The incident has put the spotlight on a community that has long been part of the fabric of the city but largely remains low profile. The Chinese Consulate estimates that some 8,000 Chinese live in Tijuana, with many working in the restaurant industry. The city’s restaurant chamber estimates there are some 500 Chinese restaurants in Tijuana.

As news of Tuesday’s discovery has spread, many Chinese restaurants in the city have seen their business decline. Wang Jian, head of the Chinese Consulate in Tijuana, said that one owner reported that his daily sales had dropped by 90 percent.

Early Thursday afternoon, not a customer was in sight at Restaurant Palacio Royal, a well-known 42-year-old Chinese establishment on the city’s bustling Agua Caliente Boulevard.

“We’ve had clients, but not like before,” said head waiter Homero Trinidad, looking out over the empty tables.

Since Tuesday’s discovery, municipal inspectors have shut down five other Chinese restaurants for being in violation of city health standards, or for problems with their paperwork. In one restaurant, they reported finding caged dogs on the premises, as well as blood and dog hairs in the vicinity, but no dog corpses.

Located in Tijuana’s Colonia Obrera on Fundadores Boulevard, Lo Yen City drew the attention of municipal inspectors after police responded to a report of a dog’s plaintive cries from the restaurant property. Video footage from Tijuana reporters on the scene with inspectors showed at least one dog’s shaved corpse, as well two live animals."


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Dog meat found in Tijuana Chinese restaurant

source: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sdut-dog-meat-found-tijuana-chinese-restaurant-2015apr09-story.html

"The incident has put the spotlight on a community that has long been part of the fabric of the city but largely remains low profile. The Chinese Consulate estimates that some 8,000 Chinese live in Tijuana, with many working in the restaurant industry. The city’s restaurant chamber estimates there are some 500 Chinese restaurants in Tijuana.

As news of Tuesday’s discovery has spread, many Chinese restaurants in the city have seen their business decline. Wang Jian, head of the Chinese Consulate in Tijuana, said that one owner reported that his daily sales had dropped by 90 percent.

Early Thursday afternoon, not a customer was in sight at Restaurant Palacio Royal, a well-known 42-year-old Chinese establishment on the city’s bustling Agua Caliente Boulevard.

“We’ve had clients, but not like before,” said head waiter Homero Trinidad, looking out over the empty tables.

Since Tuesday’s discovery, municipal inspectors have shut down five other Chinese restaurants for being in violation of city health standards, or for problems with their paperwork. In one restaurant, they reported finding caged dogs on the premises, as well as blood and dog hairs in the vicinity, but no dog corpses.

Located in Tijuana’s Colonia Obrera on Fundadores Boulevard, Lo Yen City drew the attention of municipal inspectors after police responded to a report of a dog’s plaintive cries from the restaurant property. Video footage from Tijuana reporters on the scene with inspectors showed at least one dog’s shaved corpse, as well two live animals."


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Well, that's quite shocking as usually the Cantonese when they go overseas would not be eating dog meat. If you ever actually went there, you'd be hard pressed to find it. Even though you could probably find it if you looked hard enough. It's not a common thing even among the Cantonese.

In Northern China, the only people who really eat dog meat are the ethnic Korean minority, and it's gone down with them in recent years as well.

[Vigilance]

some of it is not even racism at all but accurate
his comments about Chinese people were some what racist though, although I do think they tend to be spiritless and heartless especially in southern chine where they burn dogs/cats alive, they torture these poor animals and it makes me realize how fucked up they have to be in the head in order for them to be doing these crazy shit without feeling bad about it

I wouldn't mind hunting a dog or a cat for sport.

I would pray before doing so, to absolve myself of sin.

But eating their meat is totally different.

[Vigilance]

You should only eat frog or mice if you are starving.

[renaissance12]

In other entries he calls China "a peculiar herd-like nation," and "more like automatons than people", before claiming there is "little difference" between Chinese men and women, and questioning how the men are "incapable of defending themselves" from female "fatal attraction".

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia


Little difference between chinese man and chinese woman.?.... But this is what Gender-LGBT people dream of.

China will replace Scandinavia in the fantasy of Gender-LGBT people..

[renaissance12]

In simple words: .. Einstein was a radical-chic ( He was intelligent enough to understand how one must live in society )...
Don't mind his pubblic speech.. because what matters is his thought in private..
Politcally correct and radical chic walk hand to hand..

[StonyArabia]

Well, that's quite shocking as usually the Cantonese when they go overseas would not be eating dog meat. If you ever actually went there, you'd be hard pressed to find it. Even though you could probably find it if you looked hard enough. It's not a common thing even among the Cantonese.

In Northern China, the only people who really eat dog meat are the ethnic Korean minority, and it's gone down with them in recent years as well.

It's usually exaggerated by racists. However it's not only the Chinese that do such shady thing in restaurants, many ethnic groups do so. I have seen that there were a lot of activist there against animal cruelty and out-dated notions about animals in general, in China, which is a good thing. The reason people don't eat cats and dogs in the West is because of it's Abrahamic origins which forbids carnivores and omnivores, and that dogs and cats were useful animals and became pets and to some extent more so than that. The pig which is an omnivores is forbidden by all Abrahamic based cultures, except for Christianity, and the reason its because Jesus apparently lifted the old laws and declared it clean, but we find that's more of the Greco-Roman influence and how the pig was very important animal due to it's readily availability and faster breeding than sheep or cattle, thus it was an economic mean. Since the old Jewish Christian sects totally forbade it like the Ebionites, which maintained very close tie to Judaism. Well in Mideast culture Horse and Donkey meat is seen as disliked for eating, because of their use and have become human companions. People really need to get their head out of their ass and understand how cultures are diverse and have different rules and taboos.

[Petalpusher]

Someone smart made some generalizations in 1923? To the Delorean fellow justiciars, we can't let that happen.

[Taiji]

To be fair, China at that time was a pretty miserable place. It was about 15 years since the last dynasty collapsed, the country was in constant civil war with different regions ruled by warlords, 95% of the population was impoverished and most were starving, it's not a wonder he had those observations. I'm sure if someone visited Europe during its dark ages, they wouldn't be very impressed with the people either.

As far as the women not being attractive, when you're a peasant woman slaving away in near starvation, you're not going to be able to pretty yourself up. China in the 1920s was a very miserable place.

I'm pretty sure if he visits the China of today, he'd be blown away at how vastly the country's changed.That's a very measured, well reasoned post. And it sort of aligns with that of most chinese netizens and my own opinon, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/chinese-defend-einsteins-diaries-filthy-obtuse

This is the type of response that distinguishes chinese from many. We are capable of soul searching and are willing to accept criticism, improving on that. I even tested this theory on a filipino ironman and found out how lonely it is to be chinese. He, like the other browns (indians, turkish, mexicans), doesn't understand the concept of self improvement/self reflection often getting angry at the messenger. I suppose we're far harder on ourselves (sometimes too much).

Einstein was only human and it is only natural to judge. These were his private entries and I'm sure even today, many people do harbor thoughts that they wouldn't want to reveal in public.

The China of yesterday is not the China of today and those entries were at a time during China's darkest hours. Times have changed especially when we compare some quotes to now, for instance this one:
Chinese “have no talent for mathematics.”
See how frequently China is the top ranked country for the mathematics olympiad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad

However, some are still true even today:
even those reduced to working like horses never give the impression of conscious suffering
Many chinese travel miles from their villages to work in cities, leaving their children behind. I suppose compassion is a trait that's always been rare, rare then and rare now. It's hard to see yourself in others, even harder to care about those long sufferers who will never be like you.

China then:
https://i.imgur.com/bqG9Its.jpg

China now:
https://i.imgur.com/RSiR8tq.jpg

Einstein's mind :laugh:
https://i.imgur.com/dEyBdNM.jpg

[Gold-Shekel]

People's actions are more important than their beliefs.

[Lightshade25]

Well now that I notice, one of the things Einstein said was that chinese women were so ugly that he didn't understand how chinese men found them attractive enough to continue reproducing. By even the lightest modern standards, Einstein was pretty damn racist.

[Lucas Rodrigues]

People back then used to have another mentality, it is normal. Anyway, he was not racist considering that mentality of people in that time.
People say he was always against the racism against blacks in the USA
Well now that I notice, one of the things Einstein said was that chinese women were so ugly that he didn't understand how chinese men found them attractive enough to continue reproducing. By even the lightest modern standards, Einstein was pretty damn racist.

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[Aldaris]

People's actions are more important than their beliefs.

Quite a strong statement, I disagree. Actual consequences of the action are not the only thing, which should be taken into account while determining it’s “evilness”. You’ve never actually said that, I know, but motivation, not the consequences, are more often than not the crucial thing. Most law systems do acknowledge this.

[Gold-Shekel]

Quite a strong statement, I disagree. Actual consequences of the action are not the only thing, which should be taken into account while determining it’s “evilness”. You’ve never actually said that, I know, but motivation, not the consequences, are more often than not the crucial thing. Most law systems do acknowledge this.

You're making a false argument. If an action is good, it is a good action. Motivation behind the good or bad deed is irrelevant. Plus in this case, racism and the scientifical field he was important in are not related.

It's not far off from saying we can judge a surgeon's medical work based on the tie knots he likes or dislikes.

[renaissance12]

Poor chinese ( and in some way some all South-east asian people ) ..filthy, obtuse people, spiritless,never giving the impression of conscious suffering, less intelligent..


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[Oneeye]

Time to stop using technology based on theories by racists.


Put your money where your mouth is.

[Odin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy7dWP_5W4M

[Wrong]

What's considered racist today was not perceived so, back then.

[renaissance12]

Do you rember James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA ?

Africans and black people are less intelligent than Westerners...


The old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18440722


James Watson tells the inconvenient truth: faces the consequences.

Malloy J.

Abstract

Recent comments by the eminent biologist James Watson concerning intelligence test data from sub-Saharan Africa resulted in professional sanctions as well as numerous public condemnations from the media and the scientific community. They justified these sanctions to the public through an abuse of trust, by suggesting that intelligence testing is a meaningless and discredited science, that there is no data to support Dr. Watson's comments, that genetic causes of group differences in intelligence are falsified logically and empirically, and that such differences are already accounted for by known environment factors. None of these arguments are correct, much less beyond legitimate scientific debate. Dr. Watson was correct on all accounts: (1) Intelligence tests do reveal large differences between European and sub-Saharan African nations, (2) the evidence does link these differences to universally valued outcomes, both within and between nations, and (3) there is data to suggest these differences are influenced by genetic factors. The media and the larger scientific community punished Dr. Watson for violating a social and political taboo, but fashioned their case to the public in terms of scientific ethics. This necessitated lying to the public about numerous scientific issues to make Watson appear negligent in his statements; a gross abuse of valuable and fragile public trust in scientific authority. Lies and a threatening, coercive atmosphere to free inquiry and exchange are damaging to science as an institution and to scientists as individuals, while voicing unfashionable hypotheses is not damaging to science. The ability to openly voice and argue ideas in good faith that are strange and frightening to some is, in fact, integral to science. Those that have participated in undermining this openness and fairness have therefore damaged science, even while claiming to protect it with the same behavior.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18656315

James Watson's most inconvenient truth: race realism and the moralistic fallacy.

Rushton JP, Jensen AR.

Abstract

Recent editorials in this journal have defended the right of eminent biologist James Watson to raise the unpopular hypothesis that people of sub-Saharan African descent score lower, on average, than people of European or East Asian descent on tests of general intelligence. As those editorials imply, the scientific evidence is substantial in showing a genetic contribution to these differences. The unjustified ill treatment meted out to Watson therefore requires setting the record straight about the current state of the evidence on intelligence, race, and genetics. In this paper, we summarize our own previous reviews based on 10 categories of evidence: The worldwide distribution of test scores; the g factor of mental ability; heritability differences; brain size differences; trans-racial adoption studies; racial admixture studies; regression-to-the-mean effects; related life-history traits; human origins research; and the poverty of predictions from culture-only explanations. The preponderance of evidence demonstrates that in intelligence, brain size, and other life-history variables, East Asians average a higher IQ and larger brain than Europeans who average a higher IQ and larger brain than Africans. Further, these group differences are 50-80% heritable. These are facts, not opinions and science must be governed by data. There is no place for the "moralistic fallacy" that reality must conform to our social, political, or ethical desires.


One fact is clear...intelligent test are based on mathematic skill or mathematic-logic skill..

Intelligence is much more than mathematic skill...

[1R0N M4N XL]

That's a very measured, well reasoned post. And it sort of aligns with that of most chinese netizens and my own opinon, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/chinese-defend-einsteins-diaries-filthy-obtuse

This is the type of response that distinguishes chinese from many. We are capable of soul searching and are willing to accept criticism, improving on that. I even tested this theory on a filipino ironman and found out how lonely it is to be chinese. He, like the other browns (indians, turkish, mexicans), doesn't understand the concept of self improvement/self reflection often getting angry at the messenger. I suppose we're far harder on ourselves (sometimes too much).

Einstein was only human and it is only natural to judge. These were his private entries and I'm sure even today, many people do harbor thoughts that they wouldn't want to reveal in public.

The China of yesterday is not the China of today and those entries were at a time during China's darkest hours. Times have changed especially when we compare some quotes to now, for instance this one:
See how frequently China is the top ranked country for the mathematics olympiad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad

However, some are still true even today:
Many chinese travel miles from their villages to work in cities, leaving their children behind. I suppose compassion is a trait that's always been rare, rare then and rare now. It's hard to see yourself in others, even harder to care about those long sufferers who will never be like you.

China then:
https://i.imgur.com/bqG9Its.jpg

China now:
https://i.imgur.com/RSiR8tq.jpg

Einstein's mind :laugh:
https://i.imgur.com/dEyBdNM.jpg

you know ..… you are not helping with your signature picture of eating bugs scorpions.. you cant blame others when this is your signature. as badge of honor. youre just proving albert Einstein comments.

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/12/02/1226212/219344-insect-eating.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOUx4L6f5vw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4X25c0l7nU

[Taiji]

you know ..… you are not helping with your signature picture of eating bugs scorpions.. you cant blame others when this is your signature. as badge of honor. youre just proving albert Einstein comments.

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/12/02/1226212/219344-insect-eating.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOUx4L6f5vw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4X25c0l7nUWhat's your problem? I offered you an olive branch and you decide to attack me. So I'm not allowed to have fun now? :puppy_dp:

You do know the bug eating signature was in response to a thread about chinese dog eating. I've kept it as my signature to show that I don't care what people think, bug eater, dog eater, frog eater. I'm indeed proud of being chinese no matter what and I'll never be sneaky and pretend to be someone else like indians, viets and filipinos.

By the way, chinese don't have a culture of blame. You'll know who does if you did some serious soul searching.

[1R0N M4N XL]

What's your problem? I offered you an olive branch and you decide to attack me. So I'm not allowed to have fun now? :puppy_dp:

You do know the bug eating signature was in response to a thread about chinese dog eating. I've kept it as my signature to show that I don't care what people think, bug eater, dog eater, frog eater. I'm indeed proud of being chinese no matter what and I'll never be sneaky and pretend to be someone else like indians, viets and filipinos.

By the way, chinese don't have a culture of blame. You'll know who does if you did some serious soul searching.

dude! thats your signature!!!! the videos I posted is no different from your signature....

i'm not even trying to attack...lol..

if I give you taste of your medicine, the things you do to me, right back at you... you wouldnt last long if youre that sensitive over me quoting your signature..

the only reason why youre offering peace treaty is because you mis calculated me, thinking you can figure me out in 2 mins/ 2 posts.. lol

you think i'm easy just because I use little 3 year old girl as my avatar..

[1R0N M4N XL]

@taiji

anyway since were talking about bugs... and you admitted that your proud bug eater..

how does scorpion taste like anyway?? … does it have venom, germs that you will kill/poison you? … does it have proteins?

I would never eat bugs... however cooked scorpions, ill take one bite just for Curiosity.. ( the rest of insects/ heck no!)

[Papastratosels26]

I cant believe this....no way.

[Bosniensis]

Einstain was a Jew so it's highly probable that he was a racist.

[Bobby Martnen]

He was a retard loser anyway, who cares?

[Ginney]

One thing is for sure, he admired Indians and considered them to be among the most intelligent people.

But he was also a plagiartist according to White Nationalists (I don't believe that but who knows).

"We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."

[Ginney]

He was a retard loser anyway, who cares?

He could have been a plagiarist, I don't believe that but there are many who do. Lets be real compared to the average American (or European, Latino, etc) he was a genius.

As for his anti-Asian comments, so what? East Asians appear to act like robots without a soul, and they do eat weird and disgusting items.