Eurogenes K15 for Greek: half Thessalian, half Euboean -- large Slavic element

[Sikeliot]

Compared to "Central Greece" which is marginally north-plotting compared to "East Sicily" this person is coming up as 20% Ukrainian.

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 23.51
2 East_Med 22.11
3 North_Atlantic 18.16
4 Baltic 16.61
5 West_Asian 13.95
6 Red_Sea 4.5
7 Amerindian 0.62
8 Oceanian 0.38
9 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.53
2 Central_Greek 8.64
3 Bulgarian 9.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.62
5 East_Sicilian 10.08
6 West_Sicilian 10.63
7 Tuscan 10.96
8 Romanian 11.6
9 South_Italian 12.75
10 Ashkenazi 13.77
11 North_Italian 14.27
12 Serbian 15.79
13 Algerian_Jewish 18.74
14 Sephardic_Jewish 19.19
15 Italian_Jewish 19.26
16 Moldavian 20.92
17 Portuguese 22.1
18 Spanish_Extremadura 22.13
19 Spanish_Galicia 22.81
20 Tunisian_Jewish 22.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% Central_Greek + 27.2% Moldavian @ 4
2 75.7% Central_Greek + 24.3% Croatian @ 4.11
3 63% South_Italian + 37% Moldavian @ 4.13
4 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Sardinian @ 4.16
5 79.9% Central_Greek + 20.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.2
6 95.3% Greek_Thessaly + 4.7% Kabardin @ 4.23
7 95.7% Greek_Thessaly + 4.3% Ossetian @ 4.24
8 95.4% Greek_Thessaly + 4.6% Balkar @ 4.24
9 95.9% Greek_Thessaly + 4.1% North_Ossetian @ 4.27
10 80.7% Central_Greek + 19.3% Ukrainian @ 4.27
11 96% Greek_Thessaly + 4% Adygei @ 4.31
12 96.6% Greek_Thessaly + 3.4% Georgian @ 4.32
13 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Chechen @ 4.34
14 96.9% Greek_Thessaly + 3.1% Abhkasian @ 4.34
15 53.2% Central_Greek + 46.8% Bulgarian @ 4.36
16 97.2% Greek_Thessaly + 2.8% French_Basque @ 4.39
17 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Polish @ 4.4
18 96.5% Greek_Thessaly + 3.5% Kumyk @ 4.4
19 96.6% Greek_Thessaly + 3.4% Nogay @ 4.4
20 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Southwest_French @ 4.41


Four way plotting:

1 Bulgarian + Croatian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 1.592221
2 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Polish + Sardinian @ 1.618178
3 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 1.681197

[Leto]

He is an ancient Nordic Greek philosopher. Some believe the ancient Greeks were like Germans before they were swamped by Turks. :)

[Sikeliot]

He is an ancient Nordic Greek philosopher. Some believe the ancient Greeks were like Germans before they were swamped by Turks. :)

I am not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying they'd say this northern (Polish/Ukrainian type) ancestry is ancient Greek, rather than Slavic?

[catgeorge]

Nothing unusual with those results - its up to interpretation and level or retardedness of those interpreting.

Med and North Atlantic is dwarfing anything else. These calculators are farcical when some 2-3 percentage points is aligned to strange ass areas.

Its fucking guessmology at its finest.

[Tauromachos]

Nothing unusual with those results - its up to interpretation and level or retardedness of those interpreting.

Med and North Atlantic is dwarfing anything else. These calculators are farcical when some 2-3 percentage points is aligned to strange ass areas.

Its fucking guessmology at its finest.

Distances are too far

[catgeorge]

Distances are too far

They are but based on this calculator these are all that matter. The Bulgarian component could well be in line with Thracian/Vlach which I would say majority of South Bulgarians share with Greeks as they do score high Med but low North Atlantic.

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.53
2 Central_Greek 8.64
3 Bulgarian 9.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.62

[Tauromachos]

They are but based on this calculator these are all that matter. The Bulgarian component could well be in line with Thracian/Vlach which I would say majority of South Bulgarians share with Greeks as they do score high Med but low North Atlantic.

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.53
2 Central_Greek 8.64
3 Bulgarian 9.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.62

Don't worry some people claim even that Bulgarians are closer to Southern Europe than to other Slavs
They are certainly much less Slavic than the other Slavic nations

Central Greece is in the top 2.
Clearly this person is Greek

[kleenex]

Compared to "Central Greece" which is marginally north-plotting compared to "East Sicily" this person is coming up as 20% Ukrainian.

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 23.51
2 East_Med 22.11
3 North_Atlantic 18.16
4 Baltic 16.61
5 West_Asian 13.95
6 Red_Sea 4.5
7 Amerindian 0.62
8 Oceanian 0.38
9 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.53
2 Central_Greek 8.64
3 Bulgarian 9.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.62
5 East_Sicilian 10.08
6 West_Sicilian 10.63
7 Tuscan 10.96
8 Romanian 11.6
9 South_Italian 12.75
10 Ashkenazi 13.77
11 North_Italian 14.27
12 Serbian 15.79
13 Algerian_Jewish 18.74
14 Sephardic_Jewish 19.19
15 Italian_Jewish 19.26
16 Moldavian 20.92
17 Portuguese 22.1
18 Spanish_Extremadura 22.13
19 Spanish_Galicia 22.81
20 Tunisian_Jewish 22.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% Central_Greek + 27.2% Moldavian @ 4
2 75.7% Central_Greek + 24.3% Croatian @ 4.11
3 63% South_Italian + 37% Moldavian @ 4.13
4 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Sardinian @ 4.16
5 79.9% Central_Greek + 20.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.2
6 95.3% Greek_Thessaly + 4.7% Kabardin @ 4.23
7 95.7% Greek_Thessaly + 4.3% Ossetian @ 4.24
8 95.4% Greek_Thessaly + 4.6% Balkar @ 4.24
9 95.9% Greek_Thessaly + 4.1% North_Ossetian @ 4.27
10 80.7% Central_Greek + 19.3% Ukrainian @ 4.27
11 96% Greek_Thessaly + 4% Adygei @ 4.31
12 96.6% Greek_Thessaly + 3.4% Georgian @ 4.32
13 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Chechen @ 4.34
14 96.9% Greek_Thessaly + 3.1% Abhkasian @ 4.34
15 53.2% Central_Greek + 46.8% Bulgarian @ 4.36
16 97.2% Greek_Thessaly + 2.8% French_Basque @ 4.39
17 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Polish @ 4.4
18 96.5% Greek_Thessaly + 3.5% Kumyk @ 4.4
19 96.6% Greek_Thessaly + 3.4% Nogay @ 4.4
20 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Southwest_French @ 4.41


Four way plotting:

1 Bulgarian + Croatian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 1.592221
2 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Polish + Sardinian @ 1.618178
3 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 1.681197

This seems a bit "out of balance" for someone of this subject's ancestry. Where's the North Sea in the calculation?

[Sikeliot]

Don't worry some people claim even that Bulgarians are closer to Southern Europe than to other Slavs
They are certainly much less Slavic than the other Slavic nations

When I said they have a Slavic component I meant that they are able to be modeled as 80% Central Greek, 20% Ukraine.

[Sikeliot]

This seems a bit "out of balance" for someone of this subject's ancestry. Where's the North Sea in the calculation?


It's Eurogenes K13, I am sorry. It is not K15.

[Tauromachos]

When I said they have a Slavic component I meant that they are able to be modeled as 80% Central Greek, 20% Ukraine.

Ok this is more or less like a person who is Central Greek with one Ukrainian Grandparent 75% central Greek ,25% Ukrainian
but even 5% less Ukrainian than that.

So the person is basicly Central Greek in this modell

[Sikeliot]

Ok this is more or less like a person who is Central Greek with one Ukrainian Grandparent 75% central Greek ,25% Ukrainian
but even 5% less Ukrainian than that.

So the person is basicly Central Greek in this modell

They come out Thessalian I think. Thessalians are basically like 3/4 Central Greek 1/4 Ukraine or Poland.

Central Greek is Athens and North Aegean islands (or Cyclades) I think.