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Albannach
06-20-2018, 03:29 PM
I have just received my Ancestry DNA results in and for the most part they are as expected. I know from my paper trail that I am pretty much 100% Scottish and Irish, with at least half of that being from Connemara on my mum's side but also some Irish from Donegal and Meath on my Dads side as well as some Northern Irish protestant thrown in too.

My Scottish ancestry is basically from all over Scotland but with most of it being from West and central Scotland as well as a bit from the Borders.

Only thing I'm surprised about is the 0% Great Britain and the 9% Europe West. It says my Europe West is connected to Scotland, so I'm wondering what it represents in a Scottish context? I wonder if it is linked to my Border ancestry or Northern Irish and if it could possibly change to England/Wales if my results are ever updated.

Sometimes I wonder why I shell out money to find out how boring my ancestry is :confused: And not even the new update either!

https://i.imgur.com/sj5a9Br.png

DarkWater
06-20-2018, 03:31 PM
Wow you are a pure Irish/Scottish mix basically. What do you look like?

Albannach
06-20-2018, 03:55 PM
Wow you are a pure Irish/Scottish mix basically. What do you look like?

I have only been classified once before years ago, I can recall being told I was "West Atlantid" and someone else said I was "coarse mediterranid" whatever the hell that is. I am fairly dark haired and eyed though and often get asked if i'm Portuguese/Spanish/Italian ect

DarkWater
06-20-2018, 03:58 PM
I have only been classified once before years ago, I can recall being told I was "West Atlantid" and someone else said I was "coarse mediterranid" whatever the hell that is. I am fairly dark haired and eyed though and often get asked if i'm Portuguese/Spanish/Italian ect

That’s super interesting that people think you’re Iberian or Italian

Graham
06-20-2018, 04:37 PM
Ancestry seems to be the best going of the companies. Doubt I will pay for it, but interesting to see your results confirm.

frankhammer
06-20-2018, 04:51 PM
Ancestry seems to be the best going of the companies. Doubt I will pay for it, but interesting to see your results confirm.

They dont have a "broadly" this or that category but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. What helped form this opinion of ADNA for you Graham?

Catkin
06-20-2018, 07:19 PM
Only thing I'm surprised about is the 0% Great Britain and the 9% Europe West. It says my Europe West is connected to Scotland, so I'm wondering what it represents in a Scottish context? I wonder if it is linked to my Border ancestry or Northern Irish and if it could possibly change to England/Wales if my results are ever updated.

It could change to English and Welsh. Before the update I got only 11% British, and 30% Europe West, 39% Ireland/Scotland/Wales, and 12% Scandinavia.

After the update I get 64% England and Wales, 33% Ireland and Scotland, and 3% Norway. No other noise.

Albannach
06-20-2018, 09:05 PM
It could change to English and Welsh. Before the update I got only 11% British, and 30% Europe West, 39% Ireland/Scotland/Wales, and 12% Scandinavia.

After the update I get 64% England and Wales, 33% Ireland and Scotland, and 3% Norway. No other noise.

Wow, that's quite a change! the DNA companies seem to have real difficulty differentiating English from other West Euros.

which of your Ancestry DNA results would you say are more accurate?

I think in my case that I'm going to assume that most if not all of the 9% West Euro probably is Great Britain as it would make sense from what I already know about my ancestry.

Ancestry says that my West Euro is linked to Scotland, which makes me suspect it probably represents the more Anglo-Saxon/Germanic element that exists in both South East Scotland and England.

It's interesting that all the DNA companies give me about 90% British isles/Scots/Irish but they have trouble identifying the last 10% Myheritage says it's Baltic, FTDNA says it's Scandanavian and now Ancestry says it's West Euro.

Catkin
06-20-2018, 09:26 PM
Wow, that's quite a change! the DNA companies seem to have real difficulty differentiating English from other West Euros.

which of your Ancestry DNA results would you say are more accurate?

I think in my case that I'm going to assume that most if not all of the 9% West Euro probably is Great Britain as it would make sense from what I already know about my ancestry.

Ancestry says that my West Euro is linked to Scotland, which makes me suspect it probably represents the more Anglo-Saxon/Germanic element that exists in both South East Scotland and England.

It's interesting that all the DNA companies give me about 90% British isles/Scots/Irish but they have trouble identifying the last 10% Myheritage says it's Baltic, FTDNA says it's Scandanavian and now Ancestry says it's West Euro.

The new results are pretty spot on for me. I am about 1/3 Irish/Scottish and 2/3 English/Welsh on paper. Not sure where the Norwegian fits in. My English is from south-east England (I get this as a genetic community with ancestry too), so I think I probably have Anglo-Saxon etc genes that were initially hard to separate from general Western Europe. I get a dot for The Netherlands on 23andme.

That 10% of yours does vary quite a bit. I’d probably trust myheritage the least. Scandinavian and west euro would be quite close. As you say, could be the more Viking or Anglo-Saxon element that’s affected Ireland and Scotland.

oszkar07
06-20-2018, 09:32 PM
I have only been classified once before years ago, I can recall being told I was "West Atlantid" and someone else said I was "coarse mediterranid" whatever the hell that is. I am fairly dark haired and eyed though and often get asked if i'm Portuguese/Spanish/Italian ect



Interesting , I had a friend of Scottish heritage he had that presentation, his Dad was slightly swarthy a bit Sean Connery ish look, but my friend was even swarthier and some people assumed he had some med type background.

Albannach
06-21-2018, 05:02 PM
Ancestry seems to be the best going of the companies. Doubt I will pay for it, but interesting to see your results confirm.

Yes they do seem to be the most accurate so far, I was quite impressed they managed to pin down not only my Connacht Genetic community but also the Connemara subgroup within it, that's very specific. Would have been nice if there was some Scottish GC's though.

Grace O'Malley
06-21-2018, 05:50 PM
I have just received my Ancestry DNA results in and for the most part they are as expected. I know from my paper trail that I am pretty much 100% Scottish and Irish, with at least half of that being from Connemara on my mum's side but also some Irish from Donegal and Meath on my Dads side as well as some Northern Irish protestant thrown in too.

My Scottish ancestry is basically from all over Scotland but with most of it being from West and central Scotland as well as a bit from the Borders.

Only thing I'm surprised about is the 0% Great Britain and the 9% Europe West. It says my Europe West is connected to Scotland, so I'm wondering what it represents in a Scottish context? I wonder if it is linked to my Border ancestry or Northern Irish and if it could possibly change to England/Wales if my results are ever updated.

Sometimes I wonder why I shell out money to find out how boring my ancestry is :confused: And not even the new update either!

https://i.imgur.com/sj5a9Br.png

I wonder with the update if you will end up 100% Ireland & Scotland which is what I am now. :) I was 91% Ireland/Scotland/Wales before the update.

Grace O'Malley
06-21-2018, 05:52 PM
Yes they do seem to be the most accurate so far, I was quite impressed they managed to pin down not only my Connacht Genetic community but also the Connemara subgroup within it, that's very specific. Would have been nice if there was some Scottish GC's though.

I'm envious you got a Connacht GC as I didn't despite having a father with long term ancestry there. I've just got Munster Irish. Daughter also got East Ulster as a GC and she has no known ancestry from there. :rolleyes:

Albannach
06-22-2018, 07:59 AM
I wonder with the update if you will end up 100% Ireland & Scotland which is what I am now. :) I was 91% Ireland/Scotland/Wales before the update.

I wouldn't be surprised tbh, technically I am 99% Scotland/Ireland/Wales as my 9% Euro West is apparently Scottish, I think it could go either way with the update, Euro West could be absorbed into the Ireland/Scotland catergory or be something else entirely different.

The West Euro is a bit confusing as I'm not sure what it represents in terms of Scottish ancestry, I'm assuming it is similar to the GB component but maybe not exactly the same as GB is supposedly based on East English samples.

Albannach
06-22-2018, 08:07 AM
I'm envious you got a Connacht GC as I didn't despite having a father with long term ancestry there. I've just got Munster Irish. Daughter also got East Ulster as a GC and she has no known ancestry from there. :rolleyes:

That does seem strange, not sure if your daughter has East Irish ancestry but maybe the East Ulster component extends further south into Louth and Meath, Cavan ect, that's the only explanation I can think of as to why she would have it.

I am not entirely sure how the GC's are formed, whether it is to do with DNA matches or family tree or both, but while it has been accurate in my case it seems like it is far from perfect, I know from my the majority of my DNA matches have ancestry from Carna and surrounding areas and basically all have the same surnames in their family tree's, so it would be easy to establish a GC from that as my matches seem very homogenous. Maybe GC's are harder to establish if your family is from more mixed areas like border regions and cities for example?