Can a man without these two head bumps be considered "Nordic"?

[maxbbb]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Paul_Bettany-Jennifer_Connelly_TIFF09_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77215&d=1529638194

I see a lot of people giving out the "Nordic" label to photos that don't even show the back of the head, or when it's obscured by hair.

You are not "Nordic" unless you have the "chopped corner". Sorry. /troll

[Shaco]

So? Certain deviations can be found in non Nordic masses... Just because certain Nordic people don't have that bump at the back, it doesn't make them any less Nordic than people who do. You can probably find this head bump in any Caucasianoid population, European or not. Genetics are random and deviations happen

[maxbbb]

So? Certain deviations can be found in non Nordic masses... Just because certain Nordic people don't have that bump at the back, it doesn't make them any less Nordic than people who do. You can probably find this head bump in any Caucasianoid population, European or not. Genetics are random and deviations happen

I agree. There are deviations and complex gene interactions. But this forum is about phenotypes, not modern genetics. People are doing pre-war anthropology here.

[Gründig]

What bump

[maxbbb]

What bump

This is what I mean by "chopped corner":

77215

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77215&d=1529638194

If and only if you have it, going at roughly 45 degrees, it's "nordic" or "atlantic" head shape.

The bump in the back of the head is called the occipital bun. The other one is on top of the head. They are connected by a straight section of the skull (in the profile photo).

One could talk about how people don't always match the stereotypical examples, etc., but then the whole "classification" game loses its meaning.

[Shaco]

I agree. There are deviations and complex gene interactions. But this forum is about phenotypes, not modern genetics. People are doing pre-war anthropology here.

I get what you mean. and fyi, I actually have this bump as well, along with the 45° slope. I am not a Nord

[Harkonnen]

So? Certain deviations can be found in non Nordic masses... Just because certain Nordic people don't have that bump at the back, it doesn't make them any less Nordic than people who do. You can probably find this head bump in any Caucasianoid population, European or not. Genetics are random and deviations happen

The head bump is not caucasoid feature. Full stop. It's either mongoloid, neanderthal or negroid in origin.

[maxbbb]

The head bump is not caucasoid feature. Full stop. It's either mongoloid, neanderthal or negroid in origin.

Do you have one? Your profile says you are Black.

I've only seen this shape on Whites (and the diagram says it's Nordic or Atlantic)

[Harkonnen]

Do you have one? Your profile says you are Black.

I've only seen this shape on Whites (and the diagram says it's Nordic or Atlantic)

Yes I have the head bump.

[maxbbb]

Yes I have the head bump.

Are you 100% SSA genetically?

I've never seen this shape on a black person. Note: we are talking about the whole shape, not just 1 bump.

[maxbbb]

By the way, Fedor seems to have it:

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/dam/imageserve/a11d7cd0bc4f4bfdb8a2017ee67f9e35/960x0.jpg

[Harkonnen]

It's also a australoid thing.

https://s8.postimg.cc/4628bfzhh/bindaeuro1.jpg

LEFT Australoid
RIGHT Euro

[Harkonnen]

By the way, Fedor seems to have it:

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/dam/imageserve/a11d7cd0bc4f4bfdb8a2017ee67f9e35/960x0.jpg

Very weakly. It could be just a bruise.

[maxbbb]

It's also a australoid thing.

https://s8.postimg.cc/4628bfzhh/bindaeuro1.jpg

LEFT Australoid
RIGHT Euro

The left one doesn't have the "Nordic feature". The bottom bump of the two is supposed to be the hindmost part of the skull. Compare with Fedor above.

The right one may well be Euro, but I'd guess Asian. Not all Euro skulls are "Nordic", by definition.

[Harkonnen]

It's also a australoid thing.

https://s8.postimg.cc/4628bfzhh/bindaeuro1.jpg

LEFT Australoid
RIGHT Euro

This also explains the Nordic-Australoid-connection -> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195531-Nordics-superior-navigators

[Harkonnen]

The left one doesn't have the "Nordic feature". The bottom bump of the two is supposed to be the hindmost part of the skull. Compare with Fedor above.

The right one may well be Euro, but I'd guess Asian. Not all Euro skulls are "Nordic", by definition.

YOU ARE FUCKING BLIND DIMWIT.

[RandomGuy20]

edit: removed pic

[maxbbb]

YOU ARE FUCKING BLIND DIMWIT.

Nope. You are.

Compare

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77215&d=1529638194

with

https://s8.postimg.cc/4628bfzhh/bindaeuro1.jpg

The hindmost part in your example is too low -- doesn't lie on the 45-degree slope.

[maxbbb]

Do i have it or do you think its too rounded?

You seem to match the "Atlantic" diagram the best. The difference between "Nordic" and "Atlantic" is the direction of the ears.

Nordics are so tall, their ears evolved to listen to people much shorter than them.

[Harkonnen]

Do i have it or do you think its too rounded? (please don't quote pic)


Your skull is way too rounded. You have to sharp edges otherwise you are tainted by some otherly non-Nordic-negroid-australoid-mongoloid blood

[Harkonnen]

Nope. You are.

Compare

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77215&d=1529638194

with

https://s8.postimg.cc/4628bfzhh/bindaeuro1.jpg

The hindmost part in your example is too low -- doesn't lie on the 45-degree slope.

Angle doesn't matter jackshit. What matters is the squared shapes and sharp angles. Skull literally needs to be a block, not a fucking ball

[Nurzat]

that is exactly my head shape and hair pattern but I am not blonde and neither blue-eyed - so I am metrically Nordic + CroMagnid but I am medium pigmented - what does this make me? also, not all Nordics are depigmented, will you classify brown haired/brown eyed metrically Nordic+CM Norwegians as Mediterranean?

[Harkonnen]

Proper sharp edges and straight lines from A to B. Not a single rounded shape in the skull

https://s8.postimg.cc/b5kvosh6d/image.png

[quirtydoodah]

https://i.imgur.com/A3nBWqXl.jpg

What skull shape is mine? Is it Nordid type?

[Kouros]

What's it even called?

[Wrong]

The upper part is simply the effect of having a higher vertex.

Dinarics have it especially, along with the flattened occiput. The "6 skull formations" picture is quite wrong when it comes to Dinarics as it does not match the description of it.

[Columella]

I see a lot of people giving out the "Nordic" label to photos that don't even show the back of the head, or when it's obscured by hair.

You are not "Nordic" unless you have the "chopped corner". Sorry. /troll

I think that a degree of “Lambda” flattening can be found often.
In “Dinaric” skulls is present but it looks more vertical and in Dolico types (Nordics, “Atlanto” types) obviously more horizontal.

Small Meds, have less angular features and the feature appears more compact and rounded.

Observe flattening in Neanderthal and CM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/c2/dc/f1c2dc9ab5ee6e36843d9a54d9d26ce1.jpg

[maxbbb]

Proper sharp edges and straight lines from A to B. Not a single rounded shape in the skull

https://s8.postimg.cc/b5kvosh6d/image.png

He's an actor, not an actual Viking, but if his head were straight, he'd match the diagram very well. The "left" skull you posted doesn't.

[maxbbb]

https://i.imgur.com/A3nBWqXl.jpg

What skull shape is mine? Is it Nordid type?

You look like the exact opposite of this guy:

http://i.iplsc.com/gen-roman-polko/0006X8FXXY04MUC7-C122-F4.jpg

[quirtydoodah]

You look like the exact opposite of this guy:

http://i.iplsc.com/gen-roman-polko/0006X8FXXY04MUC7-C122-F4.jpg

What is he and what would that make me? lol

[maxbbb]

The head bump is not caucasoid feature. Full stop. It's either mongoloid, neanderthal or negroid in origin.

I'm still waiting for a single example of a SSA that matches the "Nordic" diagram.

[maxbbb]

What is he and what would that make me? lol

He's Polish, and you are the https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/antipole

[maxbbb]

What's it even called?

Nordic-pattern baldness.

[Hulu]

Nordics are so tall, their ears evolved to listen to people much shorter than them.

How are Nordic ears shaped?

[maxbbb]

Angle doesn't matter jackshit. What matters is the squared shapes and sharp angles. Skull literally needs to be a block, not a fucking ball

Wrong. Blocks that have the wrong angle:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77032

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77030

These match the "East Baltic" diagram more.

[quirtydoodah]

https://i.imgur.com/A3nBWqXl.jpg

What skull shape is mine? Is it Nordid type?

Bump

[maxbbb]

Bump

The flat "lambda region" is almost parallel to your face, so it doesn't seem to match the diagram for nordic and atlantic types (I didn't read the book the diagram is from, and most of this pre-war "science" may well be BS. Wikipedia says it's been "debunked")

You seem like a good-looking dude regardless (no homo). Losing hair at 22? Do I see a shaved head in your future, or is it socially unacceptable in Australia?

[quirtydoodah]

The flat "lambda region" is almost parallel to your face, so it doesn't seem to match the diagram for nordic and atlantic types (I didn't read the book the diagram is from, and most of this pre-war "science" may well be BS. Wikipedia says it's been "debunked")

You seem like a good-looking dude regardless (no homo). Losing hair at 22? Do I see a shaved head in your future, or is it socially unacceptable in Australia?

HT homie

[Joso]

Yes.

[maxbbb]

HT homie

Arnold is even more plano-occipital, as I just found out, if it's any consolation. See my recent posts, if interested.

[maxbbb]

Proper sharp edges and straight lines from A to B. Not a single rounded shape in the skull

https://s8.postimg.cc/b5kvosh6d/image.png

Where is this from, by the way? Vikings?

[Harkonnen]

I'm still waiting for a single example of a SSA that matches the "Nordic" diagram.

https://s33.postimg.cc/qxnnidjzz/71831477.jpg
https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/styles/marquee_large_2x/public/2017/07/08/romelu-lukaku-manchester-united.jpg?itok=uGqjODUV
http://mancunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Picture-3-.jpg

All of these are little rounded but doesn't matter - original negroid skull (without admixture) was the squared Nordic skull.

[Harkonnen]

I'm still waiting for a single example of a SSA that matches the "Nordic" diagram.

https://www.proboxing.cz/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Dillian-Whyte-vs-Robert-Helenius-0.jpg

LEFT Basic Nordic skull
RIGHT East Baltic skull

[Harkonnen]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Net_foyVyhU/WfJN2CMSrgI/AAAAAAAFhTQ/FlZopv-Y0mkBsgkLgxd7uJ0WGFAzisgYwCLcBGAs/s1600/Anthony-Joshua-and-Carlos-Takam.jpg

LEFT slightly Baltified Nordic skull
RIGHT Nordic skull

[Harkonnen]

http://www.thetitlefight.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/003_Mayweather_and_Canelo_face_off.jpg

LEFT Nordic skull
RIGHT Borreby skull

[Harkonnen]

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Rampage-Jackson-vs-Matt-Hamill.jpg

[Harkonnen]

Wrong. Blocks that have the wrong angle:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77032

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77030

These match the "East Baltic" diagram more.

East Baltic aka squarehead is the Basic North Euro headshape

squarehead
Squarehead is a late 19th century ethnic slur directed at German and Scandinavian immigrants. The phrase is meant quite literally as a disparaging reference to the cranial features, though often just used as a generic ethnic slur against those groups.

Basically the stereotypical shape of a Northern European's head was thought to be square- so it was (and is) an insult to call someone with that ethnic makeup squarehead.
Kid: "Mommy, did you see how weird that Norwegian's head looked?"

Mother: "Yes dear, the fucking Squareheads do have unusually shaped skulls. The Swedish have even more box-like heads... don't even get me started on the Danes or Germans..."

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Square%20Head

[Norb]

East Baltic aka squarehead is the Basic North Euro headshape

squarehead
Squarehead is a late 19th century ethnic slur directed at German and Scandinavian immigrants. The phrase is meant quite literally as a disparaging reference to the cranial features, though often just used as a generic ethnic slur against those groups.

Basically the stereotypical shape of a Northern European's head was thought to be square- so it was (and is) an insult to call someone with that ethnic makeup squarehead.
Kid: "Mommy, did you see how weird that Norwegian's head looked?"

Mother: "Yes dear, the fucking Squareheads do have unusually shaped skulls. The Swedish have even more box-like heads... don't even get me started on the Danes or Germans..."

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Square%20Head

So how many Norwegians, Swedes and Germans are East Baltic?

[Harkonnen]

So how many Norwegians, Swedes and Germans are East Baltic?

Try counting how many fingers you have. It is more than that. That inself doesn't really tell much. Do you understand why it is so?

[Norb]

Try counting how many fingers you have. It is more than that. That inself doesn't really tell much. Do you understand why it is so?

so you took the definition from a website? in England it is mainly Polish that get called squareheads, are the above 2 pictures Poles?

[maxbbb]

http://www.thetitlefight.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/003_Mayweather_and_Canelo_face_off.jpg

LEFT Nordic skull
RIGHT Borreby skull

These are kind of interesting, but AAs are largely mixed, not pure SSAs (20% Caucasian, on average).

[Harkonnen]

These are kind of interesting, but AAs are largely mixed, not pure SSAs (20% Caucasian, on average).

Only two of the guys I posted are AAs; Rampage Jackson and Floyd. Anthonya Joshua is Nigerian expat in Britain and yeah he apparently has some Foggy Island ancestry. Dillian Whyte is British Nigerian too, I suspect he's full Nig. Carlos Takam represents France but is full blooded African born in Cameroon. Was Linford Christie Jamaican? Lukaku is some Congolese too for sure etc etc.

[Harkonnen]

https://www.haikaexpedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/san-people.jpg
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/bushmen-village-kalahari-desert-namibia-jan-tribe-san-people-also-known-as-members-various-indigenous-hunter-gatherer-66623042.jpg

[Gründig]

Yes...

[Harkonnen]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/df/0b/c8df0b361a3e748f10968c1b01283d8b.jpg

Grace and Dolph.
Grace is Nordic type. Dolph is likely East Baltic type.

[maxbbb]

https://www.haikaexpedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/san-people.jpg
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/bushmen-village-kalahari-desert-namibia-jan-tribe-san-people-also-known-as-members-various-indigenous-hunter-gatherer-66623042.jpg

I'm not sure what you are trying to say with these pics. The guy with the bow doesn't have the flat occiput like the "German" pic in my signature.

[Bobby Martnen]

You can't tell if the head has bumps unless they are bald or with a buzz cut.

[maxbbb]

This North Italian man from an Anthropology book was classified as "Borreby", but he has excellent blockiness. Very strange.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe065.jpg

[maxbbb]

You can't tell if the head has bumps unless they are bald or with a buzz cut.

I agree. Who are you replying to though? May want to quote in the future.

[Harkonnen]

I'm not sure what you are trying to say with these pics. The guy with the bow doesn't have the flat occiput like the "German" pic in my signature.

He's a longskulled version of that same Basic type.

[Harkonnen]

The head bump is not caucasoid feature. Full stop. It's either mongoloid, neanderthal or negroid in origin.

I was right once again. New study confirms: head bump Neanderthal feature: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2188104-some-people-have-slightly-squashed-heads-thanks-to-neanderthal-dna/

[RenaRyuguu]

faaav man ever

[Harkonnen]

Your skull is way too rounded. You have to sharp edges otherwise you are tainted by some otherly non-Nordic-negroid-australoid-mongoloid blood

Truth is funny thing; neither fire or time can kill it.