Post three highest components from Eurogenes k13

[de Burgh II]

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.14
2 Baltic 20.42
3 West_Med 15.82

[Leto]

45.8% Baltic
25.9% North_Atlantic
7.1% West_Med

[TheMaestro]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.46
2 North_Atlantic 23.10
3 West_Med 19.80

[Teutonski]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.53
2 Baltic 27.93
3 West_Med 11.62

[oszkar07]

North_Atlantic 38.91
Baltic 31.04
West_Med 12.32

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Viriato:

1 North_Atlantic 36.75
2 West_Med 25.64
3 East_Med 14.09

Mrs. Viriato:

1 North_Atlantic 39.63
2 West_Med 26.57
3 East_Med 12.49

[Rius]

West_Asian 29.66
East_Med 26.80
Baltic 13.75

[Chaos One]

1 North_Atlantic 23.43
2 West_Med 18.53
3 East_Med 15.97

[Catarinense1998]

Viriato:

1 North_Atlantic 36.75
2 West_Med 25.64
3 East_Med 14.09

Mrs. Viriato:

1 North_Atlantic 39.63
2 West_Med 26.57
3 East_Med 12.49

Does is possible someone score 50-60% West med?Please, not be ironic or dumb, I dont know anything about these things.

[LaNoblesse]

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.14
2 Baltic 20.42
3 West_Med 15.82

Mine is very similar to yours :

North-Atlantic 49.81
Baltic 23.36
west-med 13.17

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Does is possible someone score 50-60% West med?Please, not be ironic or dumb, I dont know anything about these things.

That high I can only think of Sardinians.

[Chaos One]

Does is possible someone score 50-60% West med?Please, not be ironic or dumb, I dont know anything about these things.

I think it's impossible, since West Med is higher specially at Iberian/Southern French/Northern Italian populations and they tend to be a mix of North Atlantic + West Med + East Med mainly.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I think it's impossible, since West Med is higher specially at Iberian/Southern French/Northern Italian populations and they tend to be a mix of North Atlantic + West Med + East Med mainly.

Sardinian average for West Med on K13 is slightly above 50%.

[Chaos One]

Sardinian average for West Med on K13 is slightly above 50%.

Heck. I mean, it would be weird to imagine that "Sardinian" at K36 is literally some kind of West Med, but ok. Dunno how they calculate that component.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Heck. I mean, it would be weird to imagine that "Sardinian" at K36 is literally some kind of West Med, but ok. Dunno how they calculate that component.

HGDP Sardinian is the reference sample for West Med component on K36 so trust me, they can come off showing really high West Med.

Amerindian 0
Arabian 0
Armenian 0
Basque 0,59
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 0
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 0
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 0
East_Med 1,58
Eastern_Euro 0
Fennoscandian 0
French 0
Iberian 1,73
Indo0Chinese 0
Italian 0
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 0
North_Caucasian 0
North_Sea 0
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 0
Volga0Ural 0
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 1,2
West_Med 94,9

[Chaos One]

HGDP Sardinian is the reference sample for West Med component on K36 so trust me, they can come off showing really high West Med

Now I would love to see which component makes that "Italian".

Anyway, good to know.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Now I would love to see which component makes that "Italian".

Anyway, good to know.

Bare in mind that I used the reference sample. Other Sardinian samples shouldn't be as isolated as this one but it is still expected West Med to be their highest component and well above any other European or non-European ethnic group. West Med basically peaks among Sardinians since they are the reference for this component.

[Chaos One]

Bare in mind that I used the reference sample. Other Sardinian samples shouldn't be as isolated as this one but it is still expected West Med to be their highest component and well above any other European or non-European ethnic group. West Med basically peaks among Sardinians since they are the reference for this component.

Yes. I can't remember which calculator used a Turkic sampler as a "100% Siberian" or "100% Central Asian" thing too. Anyway, that can blur things a bit, but anyway, that happens.

[Tschaikisten]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.16
2 North_Atlantic 26.47
3 West_Med 15.65

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.07
2 Croatian 4.7
3 Serbian 5.75

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.16
2 North_Atlantic 26.47
3 West_Med 15.65

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.07
2 Croatian 4.7
3 Serbian 5.75
You're pretty close to Moldavia. I guess 32% Baltic would be above the average in Serbia, wouldn't it?

[Tschaikisten]

You're pretty close to Moldavia. I guess 32% Baltic would be above the average in Serbia, wouldn't it?

Actually it's like 27% according to GEDmatch spreadshet of K13. Same with North Atlantic. Serbs can get also strong East Med on K13.

Looking on most of calcs at the same time i'm northeast and western ''oriented''. For example on K15 my North Sea is low for Serbian average (13.09) but even with that i'm plotted northern than most of Serbs I have seen.

Generally I cluster mostly with Croats, and then with Moldavians and Serbs (Eurogenes). On MDLP my clossest population are ''Bosnians'' which is logical considering that 3/4 my grandparents are comming from there.

[Leto]

Actually it's like 27% according to GEDmatch spreadshet of K13. Same with North Atlantic. Serbs can get also strong East Med on K13.

Looking on most of calcs at the same time i'm northeast and western ''oriented''. For example on K15 my North Sea is low for Serbian average (13.09) but even with that i'm plotted northern than most of Serbs I have seen.

Generally I cluster mostly with Croats, and then with Moldavians and Serbs (Eurogenes). On MDLP my clossest population are ''Bosnians'' which is logical considering that 3/4 my grandparents are comming from there.
Do you look Dinaric/Pontid or whatever they refer to such people as or more Eastern European?

[Tschaikisten]

Do you look Dinaric/Pontid or more Eastern European?

:icon_ask: Pan-Euro i'll guess, from Wales and France to Poland and Ukraine.

[Leto]

My parents, by the way (mother and father). I am a bit different from them

Baltic 48.3
North_Atlantic 23.27
West_Asian 6.95

Baltic 50.26
North_Atlantic 26.73
West_Med 9.96

[Lehel]

North_Atlantic 28.68
Baltic 30.92
West_Med 14.56

[Jägerstaffel]

North_Atlantic 45.21
Baltic 25.80
West_Med 14.57

[J. Ketch]

1 North_Atlantic 53.97
2 Baltic 24.44
3 West_Med 11.34

[Moje ime]

1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.8
3 East_Med 16.06


1 Serbian 2.89
2 Romanian 6.28
3 Hungarian 7.21

[Jana]

Me:
Baltic 32.36
North_Atlantic 29.78
West_Med 15.85

Stears:
Baltic 31.22
North_Atlantic 28.2
West_Med 12.91

Mother:
Baltic 31.44
North_Atlantic 28.6
West_Med 15.53

Father:
Baltic 31.96
North_Atlantic 28.65
West_Med 15.45

[Jana]

1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.8
3 East_Med 16.06


1 Serbian 2.89
2 Romanian 6.28
3 Hungarian 7.21

Wow, you score more North Atlantic than Baltic, that is rare.
Celtic admix is real.

[Bosniensis]

1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.8
3 East_Med 16.06


1 Serbian 2.89
2 Romanian 6.28
3 Hungarian 7.21

1 Baltic 28.79
2 North_Atlantic 25.08
3 West_Med 16.52
4 East_Med 15.28
5 West_Asian 8.98

1 Serbian 3.11
2 Romanian 5.37
3 Moldavian 6.46
4 Bulgarian 7.42
5 Croatian 8.75

:)

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Also West Med + East med should be Med... cause Baltic isn't divided into East or West.

[Moje ime]

Serbs can get also strong East Med on K13.



I got it.

Why such difference among Serbian results?

edit: actually I have West Med too. I thought I don't.

West_Med 14.61

[RandomGuy20]

Baltic 35.55
North_Atlantic 35.13
West_Med 13.97

[Jackson78]

Baltic 32.36
North_Atlantic 25.40
West_Med 16.87

1 Moldavian @ 3.517066
2 Croatian @ 6.229729
3 Serbian @ 7.542012

[Astarte]

1 East_Med 36.66
2 West_Med 20.99
3 West_Asian 18.46

[MercifulServant]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.06
2 North_Atlantic 23.13
3 West_Med 19.04
4 West_Asian 12.54
5 East_Med 10.36
6 Red_Sea 3.4
7 Siberian 0.73
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 Amerindian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.98
2 Serbian 7.4
3 Romanian 8.65
4 Croatian 8.88
5 Bulgarian 10.14
6 Hungarian 11.17
7 Austrian 13.91
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.44
9 East_German 14.85
10 South_Polish 15.96
11 Ukrainian 16.04
12 Greek_Thessaly 18.16
13 Polish 19.04
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.4
15 Southwest_Russian 19.46
16 West_German 19.87
17 North_Italian 20.88
18 Russian_Smolensk 20.98
19 South_Dutch 21.11
20 French 21.28

[firemonkey]

North_Atlantic 52.73
Baltic 23.57
West_Med 11.90

Father

North_Atlantic 51.39
Baltic 23.28
West_Med 12.89

[happycow]

East_Med 40.61
West_Asian 18.08
Red_Sea 15.91

[Ritz06]

1 North_Atlantic 28.19
2 West_Asian 22.85
3 Baltic 15.17

[Tschaikisten]

I got it.
Why such difference among Serbian results?

It's ''natural'' difference among individuals from an nation.

Since this is thread about Eurogenes K13, I will post K13 plotting map created by Croatian guy on another forum.

This is where few Serbs plot, I'm ''Bosnian_Vojvodina''. So you can see that it's nothing different from other nations individual difference.

https://i.imgur.com/hcoNyw8.jpg

[someonenotyou]

1 North_Atlantic 30.76
2 Baltic 27.21
3 West_Med 18.15

1 Hungarian @ 8.059379
2 Serbian @ 8.275251
3 Austrian @ 8.826385

[GreentheViper]

1 Amerindian 31.27
2 North_Atlantic 27.34
3 Baltic 16.83

1 Hungarian @ 35.243248
2 West_German @ 35.755287
3 Austrian @ 35.996265

[Nurzat]

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.14
2 Baltic 20.42
3 West_Med 15.82

1 Baltic 30.81
2 North_Atlantic 25.10
3 West_Med 16.38

[Profileid]

North_Atlantic 49.63
Baltic 24.16
West_Med 9.82

[Kriptc06]

1 Amerindian 31.27
2 North_Atlantic 27.34
3 Baltic 16.83

1 Hungarian @ 35.243248
2 West_German @ 35.755287
3 Austrian @ 35.996265

wow! very cool high native percentage!
here is mine

1 North_Atlantic 26.6
2 West_Med 17.77
3 Amerindian 13.29

1 Portuguese 22.33
2 North_Italian 22.39
3 Spanish_Extremadura 22.42

[GreentheViper]

wow! very cool high native percentage!
here is mine

1 North_Atlantic 26.6
2 West_Med 17.77
3 Amerindian 13.29

1 Portuguese 22.33
2 North_Italian 22.39
3 Spanish_Extremadura 22.42

Cool results yourself :)

[alnortedelsur]

Me (Ancestry DNA):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.95
2 West_Med 22.01
3 East_Med 15.7

My mom (23andme):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.97
2 West_Med 26.18
3 East_Med 21.14

[Kaspias]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.68
2 Baltic 18.39
3 West_Asian 16.26
4 North_Atlantic 14.84
5 West_Med 12.5
6 Siberian 6.86

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Now I would love to see which component makes that "Italian".

North Italian (Bergamo) HGDP01156

Italian 98.08
West_Med 1.63
North_Sea 0.14
French 0.12

https://www.gedmatch.com/37c040_11_.jpg

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Eurogenes K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 33.98
2 North_Atlantic 31.95
3 East_Med 18.43
4 Baltic 7.84
5 West_Asian 6.87
6 Oceanian 0.87
7 East_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 8.78
2 Spanish_Andalucia 9.23
3 Spanish_Extremadura 11
4 Spanish_Valencia 11.15
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.8
6 Spanish_Murcia 11.96
7 Portuguese 12.29
8 Tuscan 12.36
9 Spanish_Galicia 13.03
10 Spanish_Cataluna 13.09
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.28
12 Spanish_Cantabria 13.32
13 Spanish_Aragon 13.39
14 Southwest_French 14.52
15 West_Sicilian 17.47
16 Italian_Abruzzo 18.83
17 French 19.72
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.88
19 Sardinian 20.16
20 Central_Greek 21.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Sardinian @ 4.39
2 55.9% Sardinian + 44.1% West_German @ 5.23
3 50.6% French + 49.4% Sardinian @ 5.43
4 72.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 27.7% Sardinian @ 5.44
5 62.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 37.9% Sardinian @ 5.58
6 56.2% Sardinian + 43.8% South_Dutch @ 5.8
7 51.2% South_Italian + 48.8% French_Basque @ 5.88
8 64.1% Portuguese + 35.9% Sardinian @ 5.9
9 67.1% Spanish_Valencia + 32.9% Sardinian @ 5.92
10 67.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 32.5% Sardinian @ 5.94
11 65.1% Spanish_Murcia + 34.9% Sardinian @ 6.1
12 62.7% Sardinian + 37.3% North_German @ 6.16
13 61.3% French_Basque + 38.7% Cyprian @ 6.25
14 51.8% Central_Greek + 48.2% French_Basque @ 6.32
15 63.4% Sardinian + 36.6% Danish @ 6.41
16 57.7% West_Sicilian + 42.3% French_Basque @ 6.5
17 63.4% Sardinian + 36.6% North_Dutch @ 6.51
18 60.7% Sardinian + 39.3% Southeast_English @ 6.51
19 54.1% French_Basque + 45.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.52
20 51.3% East_Sicilian + 48.7% French_Basque @ 6.53

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 9.706010
2 Spanish_Andalucia @ 10.468410
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.302850
4 Spanish_Valencia @ 12.704584
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 13.434433
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 13.457707
7 Portuguese @ 13.777142
8 Tuscan @ 13.842195
9 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.658368
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 14.872108
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.995317
12 Spanish_Cantabria @ 15.292834
13 Spanish_Aragon @ 15.397989
14 Southwest_French @ 16.716110
15 West_Sicilian @ 19.808855
16 Italian_Abruzzo @ 21.310495
17 French @ 22.253508
18 Greek_Thessaly @ 22.483572
19 Sardinian @ 22.607439
20 Central_Greek @ 24.626099

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Sardinian @ 6.150864

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +25% Sardinian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.735579

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central_Greek + French_Basque + North_Italian + Sardinian @ 3.061124
2 French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Sardinian @ 3.073164
3 Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.498748
4 French_Basque + North_Italian + Sardinian + South_Italian @ 3.505847
5 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Sardinian @ 3.570789
6 French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 3.595328
7 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + North_Italian + Sardinian @ 3.616138
8 French_Basque + North_Italian + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 3.689142
9 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 3.707120
10 Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.719531
11 Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 3.720822
12 North_Italian + North_Italian + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.735579
13 French_Basque + Sardinian + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 3.756821
14 Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.776346
15 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.789675
16 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Sardinian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.790282
17 Central_Greek + Sardinian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.825221
18 Irish + Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 3.826048
19 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Sardinian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.832392
20 Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.837285

[paradox]

East Med 26
Baltic 20.8
West Med 17


Father's

North Atlantic 25.95
Baltic 23.55
East Med 19.34

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[Voskos]

West_Med 19.82
West_Asian 15.79
East_Med 29.74

[Thambi]

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 69.22
2 West_Asian 25.26
3 East_Asian 2.29

[Sp_loa]

East_Med 36.28
West_Med 19.73
North_Atlantic 13.12

Those 3 components really show the Levantine-Iberian mix

[Voskos]

East_Med 36.28
West_Med 19.73
North_Atlantic 13.12

Those 3 components really show the Levantine-Iberian mix

how much sephardic do you score on ftdna?

[Sp_loa]

how much sephardic do you score on ftdna?

12%

[Voskos]

12%

lol, my granpa scored more than you. this component sucks.

[Sp_loa]

lol, my granpa scored more than you. this component sucks.

Yes and I scored only 6% West Middle east (levant) and 0% East Middle East (Arabia). Doesn't make any sense.

[Sp_loa]

lol, my granpa scored more than you. this component sucks.

Wait but do you have any Sephardic Ancestry? I have many genetic matches from South America, all of them are Christians (more than half of my total matches are latinos haha)..

[Voskos]

Wait but do you have any Sephardic Ancestry? I have many genetic matches from South America, all of them are Christians (more than half of my total matches are latinos haha)..

my granpa is from greek islands, disregard my flag.

[Sp_loa]

my granpa is from greek islands, disregard my flag.

Ohhh I get it. So no way he has Sephardic ancestry. Anyway Sephardim,Ashkenazim and Greek Islanders are very similar genetically (I plot next to Rhode/Sicily)

[celticdragongod]

Mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.06
2 Baltic 25.58
3 West_Med 12.24

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 1.983446
2 Orcadian @ 2.343702
3 Danish @ 2.367940
4 Irish @ 3.527809

[Hadouken]

West_Asian 36.06
East_Med 30.76
West_Med 8.27

[Impaler]

1. North_Atlantic 23.9
2. East_Med 23.76
3. Baltic 18.27

[Hadouken]

bump

[DarkWater]

North_Atlantic 45.58
Baltic 22.86
West_Med 17.56

[paradox]

Wow, you score more North Atlantic than Baltic, that is rare.
Celtic admix is real.That is very interesting. My father scores this way too. I was wondering what it meant.

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