Where in Italy are each of these genetic results from?

[Sikeliot]

PERSON 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.27
2 West_Med 20.05
3 North_Atlantic 14.68
4 West_Asian 13.51
5 Red_Sea 8.1
6 Baltic 7.42
7 South_Asian 2.32
8 Sub-Saharan 1.5
9 Oceanian 0.13
10 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 4.28
2 South_Italian 4.96
3 Ashkenazi 5.48
4 Central_Greek 6.03
5 Sephardic_Jewish 6.88
6 Algerian_Jewish 7.38
7 Italian_Jewish 8
8 West_Sicilian 8.02
9 Italian_Abruzzo 8.83
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.42
11 Libyan_Jewish 11.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.58
13 Cyprian 13.15
14 Tuscan 14.58
15 Lebanese_Muslim 16.04
16 Syrian 16.65
17 Samaritan 19.02
18 Turkish 19.11
19 Jordanian 19.51
20 Palestinian 19.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% East_Sicilian + 14.4% Palestinian @ 2.77
2 85.3% East_Sicilian + 14.7% Samaritan @ 2.78
3 91.2% East_Sicilian + 8.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.81
4 86.2% East_Sicilian + 13.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.81
5 83.8% East_Sicilian + 16.2% Syrian @ 2.86
6 91.2% East_Sicilian + 8.8% Saudi @ 2.88
7 86.6% East_Sicilian + 13.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.91
8 68.7% West_Sicilian + 31.3% Syrian @ 2.93
9 87.3% East_Sicilian + 12.7% Bedouin @ 2.95
10 66.9% East_Sicilian + 33.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.97
11 76.7% East_Sicilian + 23.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.03
12 84% East_Sicilian + 16% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.05
13 89.4% South_Italian + 10.6% Saudi @ 3.11
14 86.8% East_Sicilian + 13.2% Jordanian @ 3.12
15 81.4% East_Sicilian + 18.6% Cyprian @ 3.13
16 86.6% Central_Greek + 13.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.13
17 65.9% Central_Greek + 34.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.14
18 64.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 35.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.14
19 68.1% West_Sicilian + 31.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.2
20 79.2% East_Sicilian + 20.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.23



PERSON 2:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.44
2 West_Med 23.2
3 East_Med 20.95
4 Baltic 10.3
5 West_Asian 9.43
6 Red_Sea 3.06
7 East_Asian 0.94
8 Oceanian 0.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 3.83
2 Tuscan 5.14
3 Spanish_Extremadura 10.9
4 Portuguese 11.01
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.44
6 West_Sicilian 11.7
7 Spanish_Andalucia 11.72
8 Spanish_Murcia 11.73
9 Spanish_Valencia 12.35
10 Spanish_Galicia 12.52
11 Spanish_Cataluna 12.68
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.02
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.05
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.56
15 Romanian 15.42
16 Spanish_Cantabria 15.58
17 Central_Greek 15.6
18 French 15.64
19 Bulgarian 15.77
20 East_Sicilian 16.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.05
2 51.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 48.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.59
3 55.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 1.92
4 57.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 42.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.95
5 53.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 46.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2
6 50.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 49.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.07
7 71.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 28.8% Cyprian @ 2.09
8 60.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 39.5% Southwest_French @ 2.12
9 54.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 45.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.17
10 51% Portuguese + 49% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.21
11 58.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.24
12 57.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 42.3% South_Italian @ 2.27
13 85.5% Tuscan + 14.5% Southwest_English @ 2.28
14 76.8% Spanish_Valencia + 23.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.34
15 76.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.35
16 75.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 24.2% Assyrian @ 2.35
17 86.6% Tuscan + 13.4% West_Scottish @ 2.4
18 77.3% Tuscan + 22.7% French @ 2.41
19 56.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 43.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.43
20 86.6% Tuscan + 13.4% Irish @ 2.43


PERSON 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.14
2 North_Atlantic 22.37
3 West_Med 21.92
4 West_Asian 11.86
5 Baltic 10.93
6 Red_Sea 5.02
7 Northeast_African 0.7
8 Amerindian 0.64
9 Siberian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 4.01
2 West_Sicilian 4.33
3 Tuscan 5.6
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.98
5 Central_Greek 6.41
6 East_Sicilian 6.78
7 South_Italian 8.73
8 Ashkenazi 10.25
9 North_Italian 11.55
10 Bulgarian 13.57
11 Sephardic_Jewish 14.27
12 Italian_Jewish 14.33
13 Algerian_Jewish 14.81
14 Romanian 14.92
15 Tunisian_Jewish 18.54
16 Serbian 18.71
17 Libyan_Jewish 18.99
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.52
19 Portuguese 19.66
20 Spanish_Andalucia 20.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.7% Central_Greek + 22.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.35
2 75.8% Central_Greek + 24.2% Portuguese @ 1.36
3 76.8% Central_Greek + 23.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.47
4 77% Central_Greek + 23% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.57
5 53.7% Tuscan + 46.3% Central_Greek @ 1.63
6 75.8% Central_Greek + 24.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.65
7 77.9% Central_Greek + 22.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.68
8 78.4% East_Sicilian + 21.6% French @ 1.68
9 63.5% East_Sicilian + 36.5% North_Italian @ 1.71
10 64.9% Central_Greek + 35.1% North_Italian @ 1.78
11 77.6% Central_Greek + 22.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.78
12 78.5% Central_Greek + 21.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.8
13 77% East_Sicilian + 23% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.84
14 79.1% West_Sicilian + 20.9% Romanian @ 1.85
15 79.9% Central_Greek + 20.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.89
16 80.5% Central_Greek + 19.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.97
17 82.9% West_Sicilian + 17.1% Serbian @ 1.99
18 80% East_Sicilian + 20% Southwest_French @ 2
19 55.4% Tuscan + 44.6% East_Sicilian @ 2
20 81% Central_Greek + 19% Southwest_French @ 2.04

[Leto]

Sicilian
North Italian
Central Italian

[Ajeje Brazorf]

PERSON 1: Sicily or Calabria
PERSON 2: North-Central Italy
PERSON 3: Abruzzo

[Sikeliot]

PERSON 1: Sicily or Calabria
PERSON 2: North-Central Italy
PERSON 3: Abruzzo


1. Messina
2. Lombardy
3. Marche

[Bosniensis]

1. Messina
2. Lombardy
3. Marche

It's really amazing to see how far N. Italians (Lombards) are from Greeks in comparison with all other Italians who plot much closer.

Even Slavs like Bulgarians and Macedonians plot closer to Greece than N. Italians.

[kleenex]

1. Messina
2. Lombardy
3. Marche

Marche may be a better proxy for Peloponnesian Greeks than Abruzzo

[kaltar]

Marche may be a better proxy for Peloponnesian Greeks than Abruzzo

Some Peloponnesian Greeks are definitely closer to Abruzzo and Southern Italians though.

https://image.ibb.co/iYPtXJ/K15ver3x.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/ejy96d/K15ver3x_2.jpg

[Tauromachos]

It's really amazing to see how far N. Italians (Lombards) are from Greeks in comparison with all other Italians who plot much closer.


Its what i have said

Greeks are closer to Central till South Italians to North Italians obviously not

But some fellow Greek members in the past wanted to claim that they are closer to North Italians because of Venetian influence e.c.t lol

[Sikeliot]

Some Peloponnesian Greeks are definitely closer to Abruzzo and Southern Italians though.

They are closer to the "northern" shifting ones -- Syracuse, Apulia, Trapani. Not to southern Calabria or anything.

Though if you look you also see some Aegean islanders like Crete, Chios, and the Cyclades are also close to southern Peloponnesians.

[Sikeliot]

Its what i have said

Greeks are closer to Central till South Italians to North Italians obviously not

But some fellow Greek members in the past wanted to claim that they are closer to North Italians because of Venetian influence e.c.t lol

With the exception of a tiny minority of southern Peloponnesians, most mainland Greeks are closer on here to the north and central Italians than to the far southerners. Most southern Italians on the plot do not even appear in this screenshot, only the northern plotting ones do.

https://image.ibb.co/ejy96d/K15ver3x_2.jpg

[Tauromachos]

With the exception of a tiny minority of southern Peloponnesians, most mainland Greeks are closer on here to the north and central Italians than to the far southerners. Most southern Italians on the plot do not even appear in this screenshot, only the northern plotting ones do.

https://image.ibb.co/ejy96d/K15ver3x_2.jpg

Thats something new

No study i know said actually that they are closer to North Italians

What means North Italian for you Tuscan?

Sorry for dumb question but i lack the patience now to go extensivly through all these clusters.

I doubt Peloponnesians are closer to Lombardy than to Southern Mainland Adriatic coast.


Most southern Italians on the plot do not even appear in this screenshot, only the northern plotting ones do.

Hahaha lol :viking1::valkyrie:

[kaltar]

With the exception of a tiny minority of southern Peloponnesians, most mainland Greeks are closer on here to the north and central Italians than to the far southerners. Most southern Italians on the plot do not even appear in this screenshot, only the northern plotting ones do.

https://image.ibb.co/ejy96d/K15ver3x_2.jpg

I'd say mainland Greeks are closer on here to Adriatic coast central Italians rather than to northern Italians.

[Tauromachos]

I'd say mainland Greeks are closer on here to Adriatic coast central Italians rather than to northern Italians.

Not easy to tell
It looks a bit blurred

There several cluster in this plot and plenty of overlapps.

There are different Italian or Greek-Italian clusters there is a cluster where several Albanian and Greek groups are included...

But in general most Scientists who studied Greeks say they are closer to Center-South

[kaltar]

Not easy to tell
It looks a bit blurred

There several cluster in this plot and plenty of overlapps.

There are different Italian or Greek-Italian clusters there is a cluster where several Albanian and Greek groups are included...

One thing is easy to see, no Greek reaches a northern Italian cluster. Mainland Greeks are scattered in clusters to east of central and southern Italians, but not to east of the southernmost Italians.

https://image.ibb.co/jjHGKy/K15ver3x_23.jpg

[Tauromachos]

One thing is easy to see, no Greek reaches a northern Italian cluster. Mainland Greeks are scattered in clusters to east of central and southern Italians, but not to east of the southernmost Italians.

https://image.ibb.co/jjHGKy/K15ver3x_23.jpg

The interesting thing is that Portugese shift so far North

Because you wouldn't suspect by their phenotypes alone

Portugese have plenty of Med looking people also many Gracile Meds

[Sikeliot]

One thing is easy to see, no Greek reaches a northern Italian cluster. Mainland Greeks are scattered in clusters to east of central and southern Italians, but not to east of the southernmost Italians.

https://image.ibb.co/jjHGKy/K15ver3x_23.jpg


This is what I was saying -- they (south Greeks) are adjacent to everything from Marche to Apulia really on the plot, but not near most Sicilians/Calabrese who are closer to the Dodecanese cluster, especially Calabria.

[Tauromachos]

This is what I was saying -- they (south Greeks) are adjacent to everything from Marche to Apulia really on the plot, but not near most Sicilians/Calabrese who are closer to the Dodecanese cluster, especially Calabria.

They are not close to Lombards and proper North Italians is what he and me was saying

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Mycenaeans:

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24358&d=1530442835

[Tauromachos]

Mycenaeans:

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24358&d=1530442835

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[Ajeje Brazorf]

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[Tauromachos]

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Mycenaeans:

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24358&d=1530442835
What do you mean?^