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Joe McCarthy
03-17-2011, 08:46 PM
From The Road to Serfdom:



Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under "communism" and "fascism." As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, "the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."

No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

Loddfafner
03-17-2011, 09:19 PM
The Austro-Hungarian state is, I think, part of the continuum that extended into the NSDAP and Communist regimes. This continuity is evident at the Terezin/Theriesenstadt fortress that was continuously used as a political prison for each of the regimes.

Joe McCarthy
03-27-2011, 05:21 AM
I was looking over old Nazi and Communist propaganda posters and was reminded that the reds and browns had something else in common as well - anti-Americanism. To the Nazis America represented a materialistic anti-culture hostile to European order and good taste. To the Soviets America was a racist aggressor state run by capitalists. The Nazis shared this fixation with capitalism, too, of course, but what I found especially interesting is that both the anti-racist Soviets and racist Nazis used anti-Klan imagery to lampoon the US.

Curtis24
03-27-2011, 02:39 PM
I don't buy it. Russia had a tyrannical system of government long before communism(as it still does!); and Germany, in its short history as a united and armed nation, was also always tyrannical.

The nature of a society is determined by geography, technology, and race, and not by philosophy...

Joe McCarthy
03-27-2011, 02:52 PM
Hayek's point is not that Nazism and Communism are the only tyrannies but that they are in essence the same as for their ideological divergencies they create the same kind of prison regime and attract similar people. I think the latter is true even today. All it took for a communist like Horst Mahler to become a 'far right' nationalist was for immigration to become a serious issue, and far right European parties often appeal to traditionally hard left voters in Britain, and especially France, today.