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Myanthropologies
06-26-2018, 01:08 AM
Very very high in Northeast European genes, they almost stack up to his proper Indian genes.

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 36.98
2 West_Asian 32.81
3 Baltic 15.59
4 North_Atlantic 11.16
5 Amerindian 1.73
6 Siberian 1.08


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Punjabi_Jat @ 9.111259
2 Pathan @ 11.861341
3 Kalash @ 12.868614
4 Burusho @ 13.838367
5 Afghan_Pashtun @ 16.956100
6 Sindhi @ 18.155220
7 Brahmin_UP @ 22.115017
8 Tadjik @ 23.219839
9 Gujarati @ 24.623396
10 Afghan_Tadjik @ 25.752752
11 Kshatriya @ 25.953037
12 Balochi @ 27.047218
13 Makrani @ 28.391182
14 Brahui @ 28.440123
15 Bangladeshi @ 30.530968
16 Dharkar @ 35.089985
17 Kanjar @ 35.957329
18 Turkmen @ 36.058998
19 Tabassaran @ 36.396835
20 Aghan_Hazara @ 38.122063

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kanjar +50% Tabassaran @ 8.828671


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi +25% Estonian +25% Piramalai @ 5.582222


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Balochi + Finnish + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.142972
2 Brahui + Estonian + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.151834
3 Balochi + Estonian + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.156686
4 Brahui + Estonian + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.173235
5 Brahui + Finnish + Kalash + Piramalai @ 5.175137
6 Balochi + Estonian + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.190908
7 Balochi + Estonian + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.222575
8 Balochi + Finnish + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.231763
9 Balochi + Finnish + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.232979
10 Brahui + Estonian + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.235430
11 Estonian + Sindhi + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 5.246505
12 Brahui + Finnish + Kalash + Kurumba @ 5.254595
13 Brahui + Finnish + Kalash + Velamas @ 5.279257
14 Balochi + Estonian + Gujarati + Sindhi @ 5.326479
15 Brahui + Estonian + Gujarati + Sindhi @ 5.330852
16 Finnish + Sindhi + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 5.357238
17 Balochi + Finnish + Gujarati + Sindhi @ 5.388947
18 Balochi + Kalash + Kargopol_Russian + Piramalai @ 5.405869
19 East_Finnish + Sindhi + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 5.417295
20 Balochi + Kalash + Kargopol_Russian + Kurumba @ 5.439885

Done.

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Eurogenes K12

Population
South Asian 42.44
Caucasus 25.43
Southwest Asian -
North Amerindian + Arctic 1.43
Siberian 1.01
Mediterranean -
East Asian -
West African -
Volga-Ural 8.39
South Baltic 8.99
Western European -
North Sea 12.31

Pahli
06-26-2018, 01:18 AM
PuntDNAL K15 or MDLP 22 would be nice to see as well.

Myanthropologies
06-26-2018, 11:53 PM
PuntDNAL K15 or MDLP 22 would be nice to see as well.

MLDP 22

dmix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 31.55
2 Indian 27.07
3 North-East-European 17.71
4 Indo-Iranian 7.11
5 Samoedic 5.32
6 North-European-Mesolithic 3.48
7 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 2.31
8 Indo-Tibetan 1.60
9 Austronesian 1.31


Finished reading population data. 276 populations found.
22 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Pathan_derived @ 13.622607
2 Burusho_derived @ 14.458204
3 Pashtun_derived @ 18.158325
4 Tadjik_derived @ 18.619184
5 Sindhi_derived @ 20.792114
6 Balochi_derived @ 22.842829
7 Makrani_derived @ 25.974598
8 Jew_India_derived @ 26.587238
9 Brahui_derived @ 27.132580
10 Parsi_derived @ 27.934872
11 Turkmen_derived @ 27.984007
12 Roma_derived @ 28.717348
13 Uzbek_derived @ 31.618298
14 Nogai_derived @ 33.044071
15 Hindu_derived @ 34.004658
16 Hazara_derived @ 35.373062
17 Kumyk_derived @ 35.845200
18 Tabassaran_derived @ 36.335003
19 Cirkassian_derived @ 36.772766
20 Balkarian_derived @ 37.261333

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hindu_derived +50% Tadjik_derived @ 10.622360


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi_derived +25% Hindu_derived +25% Komi_derived @ 4.725136


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Brahui_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Pathan_derived @ 3.658342
2 Balochi_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Pashtun_derived @ 3.985789
3 Balochi_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.099551
4 Brahui_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Pashtun_derived @ 4.219887
5 Brahui_derived + Burusho_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived @ 4.411767
6 Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Pashtun_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.537364
7 Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Makrani_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.608568
8 Chuvash_derived + Hindu_derived + Pashtun_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.653899
9 Brahui_derived + Chuvash_derived + Hindu_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.655777
10 Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Pashtun_derived + Sindhi_derived @ 4.686386
11 Balochi_derived + Chuvash_derived + Hindu_derived + Pashtun_derived @ 4.717052
12 Balochi_derived + Balochi_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived @ 4.725136
13 Komi_derived + Pathan_derived + Sindhi_derived + Sindhi_derived @ 4.797596
14 Brahui_derived + Hindu_derived + Pathan_derived + Tartar_Mishar_derived @ 4.877496
15 Balochi_derived + Chuvash_derived + Hindu_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.885055
16 Balochi_derived + Brahui_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived @ 4.897163
17 Balochi_derived + Hindu_derived + Pathan_derived + Tartar_Mishar_derived @ 4.911305
18 Brahui_derived + Hindu_derived + Komi_derived + Sindhi_derived @ 4.954381
19 Jew_India_derived + Komi_derived + Pathan_derived + Pathan_derived @ 4.982171
20 Hindu_derived + Pashtun_derived + Pathan_derived + Tatar_derived @ 5.009725

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PuntDNAL k15

puntDNAL K15 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S_Indian 33.78
2 Caucasian 29.89
3 NE_European 24.72
4 Mediterranean 3.36
5 Horn_Of_Africa 2.54
6 Amerindian 2.05
7 Beringian 1.39
8 Oceanian 1.36


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Pathan @ 15.489277
2 Kashmiri @ 16.429226
3 Burusho @ 17.917200
4 Pashtun @ 20.019369
5 UP_Brahmin @ 20.635448
6 Sindhi @ 21.447245
7 UP_Muslim @ 24.605452
8 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 25.896910
9 Tadjik @ 26.297457
10 Romani @ 27.905293
11 Bengali @ 31.455431
12 Kanjar @ 32.778393
13 Uzbek @ 32.842262
14 Balochi @ 33.001812
15 Brahui @ 33.228939
16 Turkmen @ 33.860661
17 Tharus @ 34.614120
18 Makrani @ 35.212696
19 Chechen @ 40.133644
20 Iranian @ 40.480541

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tadjik +50% UP_Brahmin @ 11.218960


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Tadjik +25% UP_Brahmin +25% UP_Brahmin @ 11.218960


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Lithuanian + Sindhi + Sindhi + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.180467
2 Lithuanian + UP_Muslim + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.187251
3 Belarusian + UP_Brahmin + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.202705
4 Belarusian + UP_Muslim + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.217124
5 Lithuanian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Tharus @ 4.245284
6 Lithuanian + UP_Brahmin + Balochi + Tharus @ 4.264128
7 Belarusian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Tharus @ 4.270051
8 Belarusian + Sindhi + Sindhi + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.287757
9 Belarusian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Kanjar @ 4.291552
10 Karelian + UP_Brahmin + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.308064
11 Russian + UP_Brahmin + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.336783
12 Belarusian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Bengali @ 4.340435
13 Lithuanian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Bengali @ 4.343545
14 Lithuanian + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin + Brahui @ 4.350471
15 Lithuanian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Kanjar @ 4.351898
16 Lithuanian + UP_Brahmin + Balochi + Bengali @ 4.370011
17 Karelian + UP_Brahmin + Brahui + Kanjar @ 4.372191
18 Belarusian + UP_Brahmin + Balochi + Tharus @ 4.391522
19 Lithuanian + UP_Muslim + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin + Brahui @ 4.399317
20 Lithuanian + UP_Brahmin + Balochi + Kanjar @ 4.404532

Done.

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Chaos One
06-27-2018, 12:34 AM
In fact his Amerindian annoys me more than his NE/NW European genes.

I always had some thoughts if SE Asian or East Asian can be accounted as Amerindian at some GedMatch tests; maybe yes.

Coolguy1
06-27-2018, 12:36 AM
Dodecad k12 as well please

Bobby Martnen
06-27-2018, 12:51 AM
Maybe he has legitimate Russian blood, though

Myanthropologies
06-27-2018, 02:46 AM
Maybe he has legitimate Russian blood, though

This likely isn't the case. Jatts from these areas are known for preserving a large amount of steppe ancestry and are high up in the caste system.

Myanthropologies
06-27-2018, 02:49 AM
Dodecad k12 as well please

Population
Gedrosia 35.49
Siberian 1.25
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.89
North_European 23.82
South_Asian 26.80
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 1.54
Caucasus 8.21
Sub_Saharan -
Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Jatt_Dodecad @ 14.705504
2 Pathan_HGDP @ 15.257825
3 Burusho_HGDP @ 16.180620
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_Metspalu @ 20.912716
5 Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 24.131283
6 Sindhi_HGDP @ 24.516764
7 Meena_Metspalu @ 26.094582
8 Kshatriya_Metspalu @ 26.431330
9 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu_Metspalu @ 29.786236
10 Cochin_Jews_Behar @ 29.947798
11 Bnei_Menashe_Jews_Behar @ 30.238638
12 Indian_Dodecad @ 30.277216
13 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal_Metspalu @ 30.508581
14 Iyer_Dodecad @ 31.681999
15 Iyengar_Dodecad @ 31.899822
16 Bengali_Metspalu @ 33.998604
17 Lambadi_Metspalu @ 34.187027
18 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 35.156384
19 Tharus_Metspalu @ 35.590286
20 GIH30_Dodecad @ 35.729614

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_Metspalu +50% Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 9.123548


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Meena_Metspalu +25% Mordovians_Yunusbayev +25% Pathan_HGDP @ 3.722708


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 GIH30_Dodecad + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP @ 2.991877
2 Kshatriya_Metspalu + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.014591
3 Indian_Dodecad + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP @ 3.106974
4 Burusho_HGDP + Kshatriya_Metspalu + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.114456
5 Indian_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.156623
6 Iyengar_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.168010
7 Iyengar_Dodecad + Pathan_HGDP + Russian_B_Behar + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.266358
8 Burusho_HGDP + Indian_Dodecad + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 3.318181
9 Indian_Dodecad + Pathan_HGDP + Russian_B_Behar + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.327705
10 Burusho_HGDP + GIH30_Dodecad + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 3.353535
11 Iyengar_Dodecad + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP @ 3.363430
12 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_Metspalu + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.372186
13 Burusho_HGDP + Kshatriya_Metspalu + Russian_B_Behar + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.378069
14 Iyer_Dodecad + Jatt_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP @ 3.378129
15 Burusho_HGDP + Meena_Metspalu + Russian_B_Behar + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.378258
16 Indian_Dodecad + Pathan_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.385731
17 Burusho_HGDP + Iyengar_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.402517
18 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_Metspalu + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.405441
19 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu_Metspalu + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.412611
20 Iyengar_Dodecad + Pathan_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad + Sindhi_HGDP @ 3.415118

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Myanthropologies
06-27-2018, 02:55 AM
He can basically be modeled as half someone from his area and half Pamiri Tajik

Bobby Martnen
06-27-2018, 04:14 AM
This likely isn't the case. Jatts from these areas are known for preserving a large amount of steppe ancestry and are high up in the caste system.

Is your Russian real Russian or just residual Steppe?

Thambi
06-27-2018, 04:25 AM
he's consistently getting a quarter russian/east european. Its really crazy. There might be indians from that area who are probably more euro than south asian.

SexyLionMan
08-12-2018, 05:23 PM
he's consistently getting a quarter russian/east european. Its really crazy. There might be indians from that area who are probably more euro than south asian.

Why are you surprised Thambi this Jat is getting 25% Russian/Eastern European consistently? It’s well known Jats are descended from foreigners and were never fully intergrated into Indian society. Plus, that’s why they tend to have individuals who are very atypical for South Asia like me and my family.

Lauχum
08-12-2018, 06:14 PM
Jatts have higher steppe admixture than Brahmins... Davidski said he will be adding them to his Global 25 soon. It will be interesting to model them.

Truth Preacher
08-12-2018, 06:18 PM
Did u mean to write Jatt from Western UP (Uttar Pradesh) ?

Thambi
08-12-2018, 06:26 PM
Why are you surprised Thambi this Jat is getting 25% Russian/Eastern European consistently? It’s well known Jats are descended from foreigners and were never fully intergrated into Indian society. Plus, that’s why they tend to have individuals who are very atypical for South Asia like me and my family.

no im not surprised of them getting euro. They do on average get 10-15%. This particular sample got a little over 20% and its almost similar to his south asian percentage. Thats what i found shocking. I'm speculating if there are more jatts or other communities in haryana, western UP, Punjab, himachal, maybe kashmir that might even have more euro than south asian.

Hadouken
08-12-2018, 06:27 PM
thats why there are billa jatts

SexyLionMan
08-12-2018, 06:35 PM
Jatts have higher steppe admixture than Brahmins... Davidski said he will be adding them to his Global 25 soon. It will be interesting to model them.

I can’t wait until Davidski adds them to his Global 25. Plus, historical documents show Brahmins viewed the steppe-derived populations of South Central Asia as "mleccha", unclean foreigners, deemed them unfit for marriage, and didn't even particularly enjoy their social company.