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wvwvw
06-26-2018, 01:28 AM
Merkel was testing the water to see how much of a political case she can formally make at the international level on Thursday, one that supposedly saves her career domestically.

She was, however, stunned after the Italian prime instead called for "radical change" in the EU’s so-called Dublin principle that makes frontline countries such as Italy responsible for dealing with asylum claims and allows for registered asylum seekers that move on to another country to be sent back to the state they landed in.

As the FT first reported, in an eight-point plan presented to leaders on Sunday, Conte called for “severing” the link between the “safe port of disembarkation” and the “competency to examine asylum rights”.

The reason why is simple: Italy, along with most other peripheral European nations, tends to be on the short-end of that trade, as Rome ends up stuck with any migrants that cross the Mediterranean to arrive in Italy.

At the moment, when migrants arrive on Italian soil only Italian authorities can process their asylum application. Rome wants this to be broadened to other EU countries, a step that would in effect end a 25-year system for handling asylum claims.

“Whoever arrives in Italy, arrives in Europe,” the document reportedly said adding that “we must reaffirm responsibility and solidarity. Schengen is at stake,” referring to the possibility that border-free movement across some EU countries could be threatened if no deal is reached.

Needless to say, Italy's initial negotiating positions, assuming there is space for leeway, is a disaster for Merkel, who is facing precisely the opposite demand from her coalition partner, Horse Seehofer of the CSU, who has demanded that Germany push back more migrants to their original port of call, i.e. Italy.

There was more bad news for Merkel.

Conte also proposed that “protection centres” for processing asylum claims should be set up in other EU countries - such as Germany - as “hotspots” to avoid overcrowding in frontline states - such as Italy. France and Spain have backed a similar plan but the idea has been criticised by the Netherlands.

And just to make sure the complexity of the problem facing Merkel is truly off the charts, today's discussions did not involve the four Visegrad countries — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and the Czech Republic — who have all resisted calls from western member states to accept refugee quotas. This assures sheer chaos during Thursday's refugee summit, where a joint resolution is virtually impossible. To be sure, the four European nations may reach a compromise, but only if Germany promises more funding, which is likely a non-starter for Merkel's political allies.

That said, there was a glimmer of hope for a solution: diplomats pointed to some signs of emerging consensus on external border policy, with a number of member states backing plans to take migrants rescued at sea to “processing centres” in north Africa and other non-EU countries where they could have their asylum claims reviewed.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-24/italy-leaves-merkel-stunned-demands-europe-rip-existing-migrant-system

dperucca
06-26-2018, 01:35 AM
Italy should not take shi* from Germany. It did not work out well in the past.

gıulıoımpa
06-26-2018, 12:48 PM
Italy should not take shi* from Germany. It did not work out well in the past.But the only way to do so is out of the eu...

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dperucca
06-26-2018, 12:54 PM
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dperucca
06-26-2018, 12:55 PM
But the only way to do so is out of the eu...

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The EU is on it's way to being a sinking ship these days

GiCa
06-26-2018, 12:59 PM
it s the right time France, Germany and the Netherlands take their part too in the asylum application

and more over that their Ong boats if they want to pick up refugees boats .. should bring the refugees not in italian ports but in the ports of the countries those ongs are from … usually Netherlands, France and Germany as no ong who rescued imigrants and brought them in italy was ever an italian ong… TOO EASY BRINGING US REFUGEES DIRECTLY FROM THE LIBIAN COST WHEN THOSE ONGS ARE INSTEAD OF FRANCE, GERMANY AND THE NETHERLANDS… TO EASY TO DISCARD ON US A PROBLEM STARTED INSTEAD BY THEM


THEY WILL PAY FOR THAT WITH INTERESTS.. THIS IS SURE.. NO DISCOUNT FOR THEM FOR THE EVIL THEY DID TO US

i hope our justice system will indagate and put a light on the business of those ongs.. this thing is very suspicious .. who guarantee us that those ongs were not finaced by those european states to discard on us the problem of refugees.
if something alike is discovered THOSE EUROPEAN STATES WILL PAY FOR IT

GiCa
06-26-2018, 03:27 PM
But the only way to do so is out of the eu...

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I ve never wanted that in the past.. But this year I acknowledged that the EU doesn't want solidarity and common well being between its states.. But it may hide secret project of economic annihilation of some countries and economic enrichment of others.

France, Germany and others are not supportive of Italy, they want instead the worst for us.

The most right thing to do for Italy is to live the Eu


Italy should go out of the Eu, the secret plan of economic destroy against our country to enrich other countries of the EU are slowly emerging:
https://www.google.it/amp/www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/economia/13353204/italia-default-fallimento-ombra-troika-scenario-agghiacciante-dopo-salvataggio-grecia.amp

http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/economia/13345214/italia-commissariata-troika-invasione-ministero-economia-eurodeputato-tedesco-markus-ferber-commissario-gunther-oettinger-ue.html


http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/esteri/13345569/jean-claude-juncker-insulta-italia-lavorate-di-piu-siete-corrotti-basta-dare-colpe-all-europa.html

http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/politica/13348751/mario-monti-editoriale-corriere-della-sera-complotto-contro-italia.html

gıulıoımpa
06-26-2018, 03:40 PM
I ve never wanted that in the past.. But this year I acknowledged that the EU doesn't want solidarity and common well being between its states.. But it may hide secret project of economic annihilation of some countries and economic enrichment of others.

France, Germany and others are not supportive of Italy, they want instead the worst for us.

The most right thing to do for Italy is to live the EuTrue. With their arrogant behaviour even rocks have become euroskeptic in Italy

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GiCa
06-26-2018, 03:48 PM
True. With their arrogant behaviour even rocks have become euroskeptic in Italy

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It s not an arrogant behavior.. It s that the ultimate goal of them is not cooperation and being supportive of Italy (like nominally the EU principles say).. But to destroy our economy.. If not why Germany and France always talked and allied between themselves against Italy (and probably Greece to)

Cooperation and being supportive means not to criticize us on boat of Refugees.. And if you really want to criticize us than take you those boats so at least you are coherent.

GiCa
06-26-2018, 07:22 PM
Go figure...
http://m.ilgiornale.it/news/2018/06/26/meloni-incastra-macron-col-video-sugli-sgomberi-migranti-stai-zitto/1545368/

Papastratosels26
06-26-2018, 07:35 PM
Go,Go Italy.