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Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 08:20 PM
gun002
mtDNA: H1cf
Y-DNA: E1b1b1b1a1 (E-M183)

HarappaWorld

HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the HarappaWorld model, created by Zack. Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at harappa@zackvision.com or to his HarappaWorld blog.
We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.
Software Version: May 17 2018 03:01:02

Kit Number: RS8302292 Elapsed Time: 4.76 seconds







Population
S-Indian 0.12 Pct
Baloch 1.23 Pct
Caucasian 3.77 Pct
NE-Euro 10.34 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian -
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American -
Beringian -
Mediterranean 43.39 Pct
SW-Asian 25.42 Pct
San -
E-African 6.63 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African 9.09 Pct

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Web site software and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch®, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' remains the property of its developer.

25609 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Kit RS8302292

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 43.39
2 SW-Asian 25.42
3 NE-Euro 10.34
4 W-African 9.09
5 E-African 6.63
6 Caucasian 3.77
7 Baloch 1.23
8 S-Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 morocco-n (henn2012) 10.08
2 algeria (henn2012) 11.83
3 mozabite (hgdp) 13.91
4 tunisia (henn2012) 15.22
5 moroccan (behar) 15.5
6 saharawi (henn2012) 15.86
7 morocco-s (henn2012) 21.86
8 libya (henn2012) 23.06
9 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 27.41
10 spaniard (1000genomes) 29.48
11 sardinian (hgdp) 29.92
12 spaniard (behar) 30.5
13 puerto-rican (bryc) 30.65
14 morocco-jew (behar) 31.95
15 italian (hgdp) 32.7
16 tuscan (hapmap) 34.1
17 tuscan (hgdp) 34.34
18 tuscan (1000genomes) 34.47
19 spain-basc (henn2012) 35.33
20 egypt (henn2012) 35.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% mozabite (hgdp) + 31.8% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.41
2 72.3% mozabite (hgdp) + 27.7% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 3.5
3 86.6% morocco-n (henn2012) + 13.4% belorussian (behar) @ 3.61
4 72.9% mozabite (hgdp) + 27.1% basque (hgdp) @ 3.65
5 85.7% morocco-n (henn2012) + 14.3% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.67
6 83.9% morocco-n (henn2012) + 16.1% slovenian (xing) @ 3.67
7 87.7% morocco-n (henn2012) + 12.3% lithuanian (behar) @ 3.73
8 87% morocco-n (henn2012) + 13% russian (behar) @ 3.75
9 83.5% morocco-n (henn2012) + 16.5% hungarian (behar) @ 3.75
10 83.7% morocco-n (henn2012) + 16.3% n-european (xing) @ 3.88
11 65.5% saharawi (henn2012) + 34.5% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 3.88
12 70.6% moroccan (behar) + 29.4% basque (hgdp) @ 3.88
13 83.9% morocco-n (henn2012) + 16.1% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.02
14 70.1% moroccan (behar) + 29.9% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 4.09
15 76% algeria (henn2012) + 24% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 4.1
16 83.4% morocco-n (henn2012) + 16.6% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 4.11
17 76.5% algeria (henn2012) + 23.5% basque (hgdp) @ 4.12
18 86.8% morocco-n (henn2012) + 13.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.13
19 89.2% morocco-n (henn2012) + 10.8% finnish (1000genomes) @ 4.15
20 81% morocco-n (henn2012) + 19% french (hgdp) @ 4.23


Oracle-4

Kit Num: RS8302292
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 43.39
2 SW-Asian 25.42
3 NE-Euro 10.34
4 W-African 9.09
5 E-African 6.63
6 Caucasian 3.77
7 Baloch 1.23


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 morocco-n_henn2012 @ 10.970403
2 algeria_henn2012 @ 12.786227
3 mozabite_hgdp @ 14.980124
4 tunisia_henn2012 @ 16.296240
5 moroccan_behar @ 16.470985
6 saharawi_henn2012 @ 17.092943
7 morocco-s_henn2012 @ 22.306112
8 libya_henn2012 @ 24.863888
9 puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 28.498337
10 puerto-rican_bryc @ 31.538321
11 spaniard_1000genomes @ 31.862793
12 sardinian_hgdp @ 32.175335
13 spaniard_behar @ 32.982872
14 morocco-jew_behar @ 35.142246
15 italian_hgdp @ 35.569256
16 tuscan_hapmap @ 37.246548
17 colombian_1000genomes @ 37.299637
18 tuscan_hgdp @ 37.517246
19 tuscan_1000genomes @ 37.666122
20 spain-basc_henn2012 @ 38.116543

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% saharawi_henn2012 +50% spaniard_1000genomes @ 8.521213


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% mozabite_hgdp +25% spaniard_behar +25% tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.320801


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_behar @ 2.611970
2 morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.679072
3 basque_hgdp + libya_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp @ 2.938612
4 libya_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 3.112417
5 algeria_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.130058
6 algeria_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_behar @ 3.177349
7 moroccan_behar + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.251324
8 morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 + spaniard_behar @ 3.274249
9 basque_hgdp + libya_henn2012 + moroccan_behar + morocco-n_henn2012 @ 3.295355
10 mozabite_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_behar + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.320801
11 moroccan_behar + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_behar + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.329523
12 moroccan_behar + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_behar @ 3.332669
13 morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.354367
14 morocco-n_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_behar @ 3.357058
15 french_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.367521
16 moroccan_behar + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.382091
17 moroccan_behar + morocco-n_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.382474
18 morocco-n_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.411162
19 moroccan_behar + morocco-n_henn2012 + morocco-n_henn2012 + spaniard_behar @ 3.463315
20 mozabite_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.505450

Done.

Elapsed time 5.7956 seconds.

gıulıoımpa
06-26-2018, 08:23 PM
I've Always been interested in the Guanchos...the score more or less like a atlantomed+indian

Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 08:24 PM
Low quality sample, mainly a North African/EEF mix. African admixture is around 20%
50.1% Basque_French + 49.9% Mozabite

Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 08:26 PM
I've Always been interested in the Guanchos...the score more or less like a atlantomed+indian

Nothing to do with Indians, I think.

Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 08:27 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.
Software Version: May 17 2018 03:01:02

Kit Number: RS8302292 Elapsed Time: 3.38 seconds







Population
North_Sea 3.52 Pct
Atlantic 18.77 Pct
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 30.79 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 15.88 Pct
Red_Sea 11.51 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 7.43 Pct
Sub-Saharan 12.09 Pct

UNDER DEVELOPMENT:





Web site software and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch®, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' remains the property of its developer.

24411 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit RS8302292

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 30.79
2 Atlantic 18.77
3 East_Med 15.88
4 Sub-Saharan 12.09
5 Red_Sea 11.51
6 Northeast_African 7.43
7 North_Sea 3.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 12.41
2 Moroccan 15.08
3 Algerian 15.85
4 Tunisian 15.98
5 Sardinian 24.62
6 Tuscan 24.91
7 West_Sicilian 24.92
8 Spanish_Andalucia 25.24
9 North_Italian 25.27
10 Spanish_Extremadura 25.42
11 Algerian_Jewish 26.13
12 Portuguese 26.19
13 Spanish_Murcia 26.43
14 Spanish_Galicia 26.84
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 26.9
16 East_Sicilian 26.99
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 27.07
18 Spanish_Valencia 27.3
19 Italian_Jewish 27.8
20 Spanish_Cantabria 27.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Mozabite_Berber + 29.5% Sardinian @ 7.59
2 78% Mozabite_Berber + 22% French_Basque @ 8.01
3 75% Mozabite_Berber + 25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.75
4 76.2% Mozabite_Berber + 23.8% Southwest_French @ 8.8
5 75.3% Mozabite_Berber + 24.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 8.81
6 73.6% Mozabite_Berber + 26.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.07
7 75% Mozabite_Berber + 25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.08
8 75.6% Mozabite_Berber + 24.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 9.23
9 74.9% Mozabite_Berber + 25.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 9.58
10 76.4% Mozabite_Berber + 23.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.63
11 77.6% Mozabite_Berber + 22.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 9.66
12 76% Mozabite_Berber + 24% Spanish_Murcia @ 9.67
13 76% Mozabite_Berber + 24% Portuguese @ 9.75
14 76.8% Mozabite_Berber + 23.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.84
15 64.4% Tunisian + 35.6% Sardinian @ 10.07
16 74.7% Moroccan + 25.3% French_Basque @ 10.1
17 64.8% Algerian + 35.2% Sardinian @ 10.11
18 67% Moroccan + 33% Sardinian @ 10.28
19 77% Mozabite_Berber + 23% North_Italian @ 10.32
20 83.6% Mozabite_Berber + 16.4% French @ 10.66


Oracle-4

Kit Num: RS8302292
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 30.79
2 Atlantic 18.77
3 East_Med 15.88
4 Sub-Saharan 12.09
5 Red_Sea 11.51
6 Northeast_African 7.43
7 North_Sea 3.52


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mozabite_Berber @ 13.752536
2 Moroccan @ 16.240944
3 Algerian @ 17.814468
4 Tunisian @ 18.126497
5 Sardinian @ 24.603619
6 Tuscan @ 25.593803
7 North_Italian @ 25.997154
8 West_Sicilian @ 26.034800
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 26.386251
10 Spanish_Extremadura @ 26.926184
11 Portuguese @ 27.876793
12 Spanish_Murcia @ 27.991987
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 28.431940
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 28.512087
15 East_Sicilian @ 28.645578
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 28.772324
17 Spanish_Valencia @ 28.830414
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 28.946728
19 Italian_Abruzzo @ 29.561857
20 South_Italian @ 29.776592

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_Berber +50% Sardinian @ 9.954583


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_Berber +25% Sardinian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 8.183912


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 8.183912
2 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.192200
3 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.237817
4 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 8.276928
5 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 8.283696
6 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 8.344423
7 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Valencia @ 8.480168
8 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 8.480240
9 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 8.487691
10 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 8.497779
11 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Southwest_French @ 8.541543
12 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Portuguese + Sardinian @ 8.585620
13 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 8.685362
14 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.695330
15 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.741725
16 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 8.744344
17 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.764199
18 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 8.798422
19 French_Basque + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 8.803628
20 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 8.868961

Done.

Elapsed time 2.7199 seconds.

Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 08:30 PM
A user on Anthrogenica will also upload the other Guanches.

Leto
06-26-2018, 08:45 PM
Interesting. And they remained unaffected by the Arab slave trade.

Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 09:12 PM
Interesting. And they remained unaffected by the Arab slave trade.

What I found interesting is that this sample comes out as European shifted. I expected the Guanches to be more African, before making a judgment I would also like to see the other higher quality Guanches when they will be uploaded.
I wanted to ask you, is there a way to grab kits from e-mails on GEDmatch Genesis?

Leto
06-26-2018, 10:43 PM
I wanted to ask you, is there a way to grab kits from e-mails on GEDmatch Genesis?
Hm, I've never thought of it. Isn't there the User Lookup option as on regular GM?

Ajeje Brazorf
06-26-2018, 10:52 PM
Isn't there the User Lookup option as on regular GM?

I can't find it.

Ajeje Brazorf
07-01-2018, 12:55 AM
gun012
mtDNA: U6b1a
Y-DNA: E1b1b1b1a1 (E-M183)

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.
Software Version: May 17 2018 03:01:02

Kit Number: UA6666190 Elapsed Time: 3.75 seconds







Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic 12.85 Pct
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 33.96 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 15.17 Pct
Red_Sea 16.40 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 10.17 Pct
Sub-Saharan 11.44 Pct

UNDER DEVELOPMENT:





Web site software and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch®, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
Each Admixture Proportions 'calculator' remains the property of its developer.

53990 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit UA6666190

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 33.96
2 Red_Sea 16.4
3 East_Med 15.17
4 Atlantic 12.85
5 Sub-Saharan 11.44
6 Northeast_African 10.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 11.56
2 Moroccan 12.51
3 Algerian 15.3
4 Tunisian 16.39
5 Sardinian 26.91
6 Algerian_Jewish 28.93
7 West_Sicilian 29.53
8 Tuscan 30.08
9 East_Sicilian 30.4
10 Italian_Jewish 30.68
11 Sephardic_Jewish 31.09
12 North_Italian 31.11
13 Ashkenazi 31.12
14 Libyan_Jewish 31.46
15 South_Italian 31.48
16 Spanish_Extremadura 31.73
17 Tunisian_Jewish 31.76
18 Spanish_Andalucia 31.83
19 Egyptian 32.17
20 Portuguese 32.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% Mozabite_Berber + 23.3% Sardinian @ 8.59
2 75.4% Moroccan + 24.6% Sardinian @ 9.44
3 92.2% Mozabite_Berber + 7.8% French_Basque @ 11.06
4 91.8% Mozabite_Berber + 8.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 11.19
5 92.3% Mozabite_Berber + 7.7% Southwest_French @ 11.21
6 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 11.28
7 93.2% Mozabite_Berber + 6.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 11.33
8 92.9% Mozabite_Berber + 7.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 11.33
9 70.4% Algerian + 29.6% Sardinian @ 11.35
10 94% Mozabite_Berber + 6% Spanish_Galicia @ 11.4
11 94.4% Mozabite_Berber + 5.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 11.4
12 94.2% Mozabite_Berber + 5.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.42
13 94.5% Mozabite_Berber + 5.5% Portuguese @ 11.43
14 94.8% Mozabite_Berber + 5.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 11.43
15 95.5% Mozabite_Berber + 4.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 11.45
16 95.6% Mozabite_Berber + 4.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 11.47
17 96.5% Mozabite_Berber + 3.5% North_Italian @ 11.51
18 98.7% Mozabite_Berber + 1.3% French @ 11.55
19 94.5% Mozabite_Berber + 5.5% Moroccan @ 11.56
20 99.9% Mozabite_Berber + 0.1% Southwest_English @ 11.56


Oracle-4

Kit Num: UA6666190
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 33.96
2 Red_Sea 16.40
3 East_Med 15.17
4 Atlantic 12.85
5 Sub-Saharan 11.44
6 Northeast_African 10.17


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mozabite_Berber @ 13.015371
2 Moroccan @ 13.712772
3 Algerian @ 17.348885
4 Tunisian @ 18.636606
5 Sardinian @ 27.227871
6 West_Sicilian @ 31.354332
7 Algerian_Jewish @ 31.451035
8 Tuscan @ 31.670885
9 East_Sicilian @ 32.453892
10 North_Italian @ 32.910751
11 Italian_Jewish @ 33.002014
12 Ashkenazi @ 33.297962
13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 33.554478
14 South_Italian @ 33.695869
15 Spanish_Andalucia @ 34.206818
16 Spanish_Extremadura @ 34.374096
17 Central_Greek @ 34.464478
18 Italian_Abruzzo @ 34.558849
19 Greek @ 34.656544
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 34.752178

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moroccan +50% Sardinian @ 12.476910


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_Berber +25% Mozabite_Berber +25% Sardinian @ 9.426429


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 9.372026
2 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 9.426429
3 Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 9.476025
4 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 9.726585
5 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 10.383307
6 Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 10.412279
7 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 10.581929
8 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tunisian @ 10.747662
9 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tunisian @ 10.811670
10 Moroccan + Moroccan + Sardinian + Tunisian @ 10.819840
11 Algerian + Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 11.440862
12 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 11.538631
13 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tunisian @ 11.776279
14 Algerian + Moroccan + Sardinian + Tunisian @ 11.791318
15 Moroccan + Sardinian + Tunisian + Tunisian @ 12.181327
16 Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tunisian + Tunisian @ 12.251914
17 Maasai + Moroccan + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 12.316907
18 Maasai + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 12.379929
19 Ethiopian_Amhara + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 12.410839
20 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 12.449556

Done.

Elapsed time 7.1325 seconds.

MDLP K23b

MDLP K23b Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the MDLP K23b calculator, created by Vadim Verenich. Questions and comments about this calculator
should be directed to him at vadimverenich@gmail.com or visit his Project Blog.
Software Version: May 17 2018 03:01:02

Kit Number: UA6666190 Elapsed Time: 3.02 seconds







Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic -
South_Central_Asian -
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian -
Archaic_Human -
East_African 3.21 Pct
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 31.23 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African -
Near_East 11.06 Pct
North_African 42.80 Pct
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy 2.40 Pct
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian 9.29 Pct
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers -

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31835 SNPs used in this evaluation

Oracle

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This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

MDLP K23b Oracle results:
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Kit UA6666190

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_African 42.8
2 European_Early_Farmers 31.23
3 Near_East 11.06
4 Subsaharian 9.29
5 East_African 3.21
6 African_Pygmy 2.4
7 Ancestral_Altaic 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_South ( ) 18.45
2 Algerian ( ) 23.83
3 Berber_WGA ( ) 24.31
4 Saharawi ( ) 26.92
5 Shaigi_Sudan ( ) 26.97
6 Tunisian ( ) 31.06
7 Moroccan ( ) 33.05
8 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 40.46
9 Mozabite ( ) 44.27
10 Puerto_Rican ( ) 45.6
11 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 47.9
12 Portugese ( ) 48.3
13 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 49.01
14 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 49.07
15 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 49.69
16 Colombian ( ) 49.74
17 Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) 50.78
18 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) 50.85
19 Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) 50.92
20 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) 51.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Saharawi ( ) + 29.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 7.69
2 70.2% Saharawi ( ) + 29.8% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 7.94
3 73.3% Berber_WGA ( ) + 26.7% Basque_French ( ) @ 9.53
4 73.1% Berber_WGA ( ) + 26.9% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 9.84
5 68.7% Saharawi ( ) + 31.3% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 10.05
6 80.8% Morocco_South ( ) + 19.2% Basque_French ( ) @ 11.37
7 58.8% Mozabite ( ) + 41.2% Basque_French ( ) @ 11.51
8 58.4% Mozabite ( ) + 41.6% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 11.55
9 80.7% Morocco_South ( ) + 19.3% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 11.62
10 71.9% Berber_WGA ( ) + 28.1% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 11.82
11 56.1% Mozabite ( ) + 43.9% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 13.07
12 80.6% Morocco_South ( ) + 19.4% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 13.09
13 72.9% Saharawi ( ) + 27.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 13.42
14 68.9% Saharawi ( ) + 31.1% French_South ( ) @ 13.49
15 68.3% Saharawi ( ) + 31.7% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 14.64
16 68.4% Saharawi ( ) + 31.6% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 14.71
17 72.8% Berber_WGA ( ) + 27.2% French_South ( ) @ 15
18 68.7% Saharawi ( ) + 31.3% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 15.19
19 85.7% Morocco_South ( ) + 14.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 15.23
20 83.1% Morocco_South ( ) + 16.9% French_South ( ) @ 15.24


Oracle-4

Kit Num: UA6666190
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
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MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle
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Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_African 42.80
2 European_Early_Farmers 31.23
3 Near_East 11.06
4 Subsaharian 9.29
5 East_African 3.21
6 African_Pygmy 2.40


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Morocco_South_ @ 16.065393
2 Algerian_ @ 18.468134
3 Shaigi_Sudan_ @ 19.900280
4 Berber_WGA_ @ 22.523031
5 Tunisian_ @ 24.563110
6 Saharawi_ @ 25.568863
7 Moroccan_ @ 28.114685
8 Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 39.014545
9 Mozabite_ @ 43.534206
10 Puerto_Rican_ @ 45.012333
11 Libyan_Jew_ @ 46.223164
12 Portugese_ @ 46.492119
13 Egyptian_Tanta_ @ 47.050278
14 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 47.188026
15 Egyptian_Iskandaria_ @ 47.302078
16 Spanish_Murcia_IBS_ @ 47.483624
17 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS_ @ 47.869110
18 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 48.268875
19 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 48.270767
20 Spanish_Galicia_IBS_ @ 48.799049

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_ +50% Sardinian_ @ 16.000896


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Saharawi_ +25% Saharawi_ +25% Sardinian_ @ 10.587787


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Basque_French_ + Berber_WGA_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.003890
2 Basque_French_ + Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.014395
3 Basque_French_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.082109
4 Basque_French_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.140758
5 Basque_Spanish_ + Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.211561
6 Basque_French_ + Berber_WGA_ + Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.242951
7 Basque_Spanish_ + Berber_WGA_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.243855
8 Basque_Spanish_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.305226
9 Basque_French_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ @ 9.354137
10 Basque_Spanish_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.382329
11 Basque_Spanish_ + Berber_WGA_ + Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.427771
12 Basque_Spanish_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ @ 9.561225
13 Basque_French_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ + Morocco_South_ @ 9.657448
14 Basque_Spanish_ + Berber_WGA_ + Berber_WGA_ + Morocco_South_ @ 9.825047
15 Basque_French_ + Morocco_South_ + Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ @ 9.996067
16 Basque_French_ + Morocco_South_ + Morocco_South_ + Mozabite_ @ 10.093092
17 Basque_Spanish_ + Morocco_South_ + Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ @ 10.135040
18 Algerian_ + Basque_French_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ @ 10.164769
19 Morocco_South_ + Saharawi_ + Saharawi_ + Sardinian_ @ 10.268171
20 Basque_Spanish_ + Morocco_South_ + Morocco_South_ + Mozabite_ @ 10.272806

Done.

Elapsed time 153.6868 seconds.

Ajeje Brazorf
07-05-2018, 09:01 PM
gun008
mtDNA: L3b1a
Kit Num: GB4447404

1 Basque_French + Saharawi + Saharawi + Sardinian @ 10.127761

Thot Whisperer
07-05-2018, 09:55 PM
gun008
mtDNA: L3b1a
Kit Num: GB4447404

1 Basque_French + Saharawi + Saharawi + Sardinian @ 10.127761

Wow they carry a ssa maternal haplogroup. This canarian soccer player looks full Guanche to me.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ad_126897543.jpg

gıulıoımpa
07-06-2018, 10:54 PM
Wow they carry a ssa maternal haplogroup. This canarian soccer player looks full Guanche to me.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ad_126897543.jpgSeems the king of dolichos

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Isleño
08-26-2018, 05:56 PM
I tried those kit numbers on gedmatch and all of them have been removed. Maybe it was unauthorized. Anyway, thanks for posting.

I always wondered why Guanche ancestry did not show on commercial DNA tests for any Canarians as commercial tests would lump most of the ancestry into Southern European and throw a few percent of Sub-Saharan out and a few percent North African out. The only tests results I’ve seen available to the public that would pick it up was Dr. Doug McDonald’s tests which of course are not commercial and Gedmatch.

Seems the Guanches we’re more like European shifted Mozabite-like Berbers. They seem to cluster not far from other modern North Africans, but in a slight direction toward Europe. Very interesting

Isleño
08-26-2018, 06:04 PM
Wow they carry a ssa maternal haplogroup. This canarian soccer player looks full Guanche to me.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ad_126897543.jpgThat Canarian probably does have a very high amount of Guanche DNA, probably not full blooded but still very high. He is not typical for a Canarian however.

As for haplogroups, that SSA haplogroup is only one of the types found among the Guanches. Here are the others from the study:


gun002 Tenerife XY H1cf E1b1b1b1a1 E-M183
gun005 Gran Canaria XX H2a
gun008 Gran Canaria XX L3b1a
gun011 Tenerife XY T2c1d2 E1b1b1b1a1 E-M183
gun012 Tenerife XY U6b1a E1b1b1b1a1 E-M183
gun001 Tenerife XY U6b1a
gun004 Tenerife J1c3
gun006 Gran Canaria XY L3b1a
gun007 Gran Canaria XY L3b1a
gun013 Tenerife U6b1a
gun014 Tenerife XY U6b

FilhoV
08-26-2018, 06:13 PM
Ayoze Perez isn’t typical at all

Ajeje Brazorf
08-26-2018, 07:57 PM
I tried those kit numbers on gedmatch and all of them have been removed. Maybe it was unauthorized. Anyway, thanks for posting.

They have not been deleted dude, you have to run them on GEDmatch Genesis.

gun011 (695–888 AD) ET1085931, 162582 SNPs
1 Morocco_South + Shaigi_Sudan + Shaigi_Sudan + Shaigi_Sudan @ 3.631839

gun012 (582–660 AD) UA6666190, 56919 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Berber_WGA + Saharawi + Saharawi @ 9.003890

gun005 (895–1017 AD) CE1647184, 51471 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Morocco_South + Saharawi + Sardinian @ 7.632516

gun008 (879–992 AD) GB4447404, 35203 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Saharawi + Saharawi + Sardinian @ 10.127761

gun002 (1024–1155 AD) RS8302292, 25609 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Mozabite + Mozabite + Sardinian @ 12.513489

Lavrentis
08-26-2018, 08:05 PM
Sorry for the noob question, but was the first guy you posted mixed with mainland Iberians?

Ajeje Brazorf
08-26-2018, 08:10 PM
Seems the Guanches we’re more like European shifted Mozabite-like Berbers. They seem to cluster not far from other modern North Africans, but in a slight direction toward Europe. Very interesting

These samples vary a lot among themselves, but in broad terms they look like northwest Africans with extra EEF which shifts them northwestward.

Ajeje Brazorf
08-26-2018, 08:13 PM
Sorry for the noob question, but was the first guy you posted mixed with mainland Iberians?

These are ancient genomes. If they were mixed with Iberians they would score much more WHG.

Lavrentis
08-26-2018, 08:14 PM
These are ancient genomes. If they were mixed with Iberians they would score much more WHG.

Thanks, I asked because I thought that Guanches were much less European shifted. The first sample can be modeled as half Sardinian on Eurogenes K15 which is interesting

Ajeje Brazorf
08-26-2018, 08:18 PM
Thanks, I asked because I thought that Guanches were much less European shifted. The first sample can be modeled as half Sardinian on Eurogenes K15 which is interesting

A Sardinian/North African individual would still be genetically distant from these Guanches.

MsSPF
08-26-2018, 08:29 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15


GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit RS8302292

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 30.79
2 Atlantic 18.77
3 East_Med 15.88
4 Sub-Saharan 12.09
5 Red_Sea 11.51
6 Northeast_African 7.43
7 North_Sea 3.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 12.41
2 Moroccan 15.08
3 Algerian 15.85
4 Tunisian 15.98
5 Sardinian 24.62
6 Tuscan 24.91
7 West_Sicilian 24.92
8 Spanish_Andalucia 25.24
9 North_Italian 25.27
10 Spanish_Extremadura 25.42
11 Algerian_Jewish 26.13
12 Portuguese 26.19
13 Spanish_Murcia 26.43
14 Spanish_Galicia 26.84
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 26.9
16 East_Sicilian 26.99
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 27.07
18 Spanish_Valencia 27.3
19 Italian_Jewish 27.8
20 Spanish_Cantabria 27.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Mozabite_Berber + 29.5% Sardinian @ 7.59
2 78% Mozabite_Berber + 22% French_Basque @ 8.01
3 75% Mozabite_Berber + 25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.75
4 76.2% Mozabite_Berber + 23.8% Southwest_French @ 8.8
5 75.3% Mozabite_Berber + 24.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 8.81
6 73.6% Mozabite_Berber + 26.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.07
7 75% Mozabite_Berber + 25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.08
8 75.6% Mozabite_Berber + 24.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 9.23
9 74.9% Mozabite_Berber + 25.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 9.58
10 76.4% Mozabite_Berber + 23.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.63
11 77.6% Mozabite_Berber + 22.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 9.66
12 76% Mozabite_Berber + 24% Spanish_Murcia @ 9.67
13 76% Mozabite_Berber + 24% Portuguese @ 9.75
14 76.8% Mozabite_Berber + 23.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.84
15 64.4% Tunisian + 35.6% Sardinian @ 10.07
16 74.7% Moroccan + 25.3% French_Basque @ 10.1
17 64.8% Algerian + 35.2% Sardinian @ 10.11
18 67% Moroccan + 33% Sardinian @ 10.28
19 77% Mozabite_Berber + 23% North_Italian @ 10.32
20 83.6% Mozabite_Berber + 16.4% French @ 10.66






Very interesting, thanks for sharing !
They look like the purest kind of Berbers you could find because of isolation. Funnily their results are not that different from mine and other NorthAfricans especially Moroccans... except they have actually more SSA than the average coastal North African and have very low EastMed %. Their Red Sea & Atlantic % are still in the spectrum of the diversity of North African genetics, not the exact average but still. WestMed is higher than average also, I've never seen one that high but it is not surprising.
Basically, in Maghreb, the more EastMed you find, the more you go to the east (Tunisia etc...), the more WestMed you find, the more you go to the west (Morocco)... Canary Islands being to the extreme west, it makes sense.
The most important difference for me is the EastMed component, definitely lower than average, otherwise, it seems they clearly were very similar to other modern NorthAfrican/Berber groups.
It is also CLEARLY showing that SSA in North Africa is ancient and not inherited from Arab slave trade, disproving totally the anthroforum-myth.

My results for comparaison in the SAME calculator :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 24.66
2 East_Med 21.64
3 Atlantic 17.85
4 Red_Sea 14.9
5 Sub-Saharan 9.92
6 Northeast_African 8.44
7 North_Sea 1.43
8 Southeast_Asian 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 6.97
2 Tunisian 8.72
3 Moroccan 9.71
4 Algerian 9.96
5 Algerian_Jewish 21.2
6 West_Sicilian 21.84
7 Italian_Jewish 23.11
8 Sephardic_Jewish 23.12
9 Tunisian_Jewish 23.66
10 East_Sicilian 23.69
11 Tuscan 23.77
12 Ashkenazi 24.33
13 Libyan_Jewish 24.45
14 South_Italian 24.66
15 Egyptian 25.19
16 Italian_Abruzzo 25.4
17 North_Italian 25.78
18 Central_Greek 25.9
19 Greek 26.52
20 Spanish_Extremadura 26.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.5% Mozabite_Berber + 13.5% French_Basque @ 3.84
2 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.2
3 83% Mozabite_Berber + 17% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.36
4 84.1% Mozabite_Berber + 15.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.41
5 84% Mozabite_Berber + 16% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.41
6 85.6% Mozabite_Berber + 14.4% Southwest_French @ 4.54
7 85.3% Mozabite_Berber + 14.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.66
8 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.77
9 84% Mozabite_Berber + 16% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.83
10 85.1% Mozabite_Berber + 14.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.94
11 86% Mozabite_Berber + 14% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.99
12 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% North_Italian @ 5.16
13 85.4% Mozabite_Berber + 14.6% Portuguese @ 5.18
14 86.3% Mozabite_Berber + 13.7% Sardinian @ 5.27
15 84.3% Tunisian + 15.7% French_Basque @ 5.35
16 86.4% Mozabite_Berber + 13.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.39
17 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% Tuscan @ 5.49
18 89.8% Mozabite_Berber + 10.2% French @ 5.73
19 84.4% Mozabite_Berber + 15.6% West_Sicilian @ 5.78
20 91.4% Mozabite_Berber + 8.6% South_Dutch @ 5.93

Isleño
08-27-2018, 06:11 AM
Ayoze Perez isn’t typical at all
No he’s not. And his first name is a Guanche first name.

Isleño
08-27-2018, 06:12 AM
They have not been deleted dude, you have to run them on GEDmatch Genesis.

gun011 (695–888 AD) ET1085931, 162582 SNPs
1 Morocco_South + Shaigi_Sudan + Shaigi_Sudan + Shaigi_Sudan @ 3.631839

gun012 (582–660 AD) UA6666190, 56919 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Berber_WGA + Saharawi + Saharawi @ 9.003890

gun005 (895–1017 AD) CE1647184, 51471 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Morocco_South + Saharawi + Sardinian @ 7.632516

gun008 (879–992 AD) GB4447404, 35203 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Saharawi + Saharawi + Sardinian @ 10.127761

gun002 (1024–1155 AD) RS8302292, 25609 SNPs
1 Basque_French + Mozabite + Mozabite + Sardinian @ 12.513489
Ok, thanks for clearing that up!

Ilma
09-30-2018, 03:08 PM
Thanks, I asked because I thought that Guanches were much less European shifted. The first sample can be modeled as half Sardinian on Eurogenes K15 which is interesting

It sounds like they have similarities with indigenous Europeans such as Basques as well.

What's very interesting to notice with those mummies kits is to compare with modern Canarian people what differences and similarities they are sharing now.

Thanks a lot for sharing these results from mummies guys! It helps me to compare with the kit of a Canarian friend of mine.

Nebro
03-16-2019, 07:37 PM
This is from the study.
"However, outgroup f3 statistics [19] suggest that the Guanches share more genetic drift with non-African test populations than with African test populations, including Northwest African populations of Berber origin (Data S1, sheet 2). This observation is inconsistent with the PCA and the uniparental genetic marker data, indicating that the outgroup f3 statistic may be misleading, possibly due to the complex history of recent sub-Saharan admixture events in North African populations [12, 21]"

Guanches case is similar to Natufians.

dududud
03-16-2019, 08:04 PM
Interesting.

Isleño
06-19-2019, 03:24 PM
A Sardinian/North African individual would still be genetically distant from these Guanches.

Tell me do you agree with this or not...I was looking over the gedmatch runs and PCA for Guanches and thought about something. If they were more European shifted, let’s say an average of 25% such as several calculators give a 75% mozabite/Moroccan and 25% Iberian/French Basque/Sardinian score (some give more like 30% or more) To figure out the true Guanche percentage for a modern Canarian gedmatch oracle, one should add about 25% more to the Moroccan percentage in the oracle. So 10%-13% Moroccan would be 12%-16% Guanche. Do you agree? What do you think?

Adamm
06-19-2019, 06:15 PM
So they had more SSA than the average North Moroccan?

Nassbean
09-14-2019, 03:07 PM
So they had more SSA than the average North Moroccan?

yep it seems lol I compared with my results the big differences are the west med and east med components : they had more west med and less east med than us and slightly more ssa. what's your explanation for this higher east_med component among us ? An arab influence?

Nassbean
09-14-2019, 03:08 PM
So they had more SSA than the average North Moroccan?

double post

Adamm
09-14-2019, 03:23 PM
yep it seems lol I compared with my results the big differences are the west med and east med components : they had more west med and less east med than us and slightly more ssa. what's your explanation for this higher east_med component among us ? An arab influence?


Levantine/Anatolian influence in my case (I score high Anatolian on G25).

Nassbean
09-14-2019, 03:52 PM
Levantine/Anatolian influence in my case (I score high Anatolian on G25).

interesting but looking at the age of these mummies this levantine/anatolian influence came during the medieval era. I doubt it came with ottomans because they never controlled morocco and ottomans soldiers themselves were not all anatolians or levantines or maybe a lot of arabs who came had already this levantine component in high proportion?

Adamm
09-14-2019, 04:02 PM
interesting but looking at the age of these mummies this levantine/anatolian influence came during the medieval era. I doubt it came with ottomans because they never controlled morocco and ottomans soldiers themselves were not all anatolians or levantines or maybe a lot of arabs who came had already this levantine component in high proportion?


This is a very old string, the problem with North Africa is that we don't know much about these ghost population that lived there and apparently they all got wiped out, the Arabs had a very limited genetic impact on NorthWest Africa and this string did not came with the Ottomans as the Ottomans has significant mongoloid admixture which is not to be found among Moroccans (only among some Algerians and Tunisians because they got occupied).

Samnium
09-14-2019, 04:05 PM
Very interesting

FilhoV
09-14-2019, 11:31 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 37.39
2 Caucasian 21.29
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 18.75
4 North_African 8.7
5 Near_East 7.74
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.78
7 Subsaharian 0.92
8 Archaic_African 0.89
9 Archaic_Human 0.59
10 African_Pygmy 0.56
11 South_Central_Asian 0.27
12 East_African 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portugese ( ) 6.34
2 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 8.24
3 Spaniard ( ) 9.53
4 French ( ) 9.86
5 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 10.3
6 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 11.08
7 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 11.2
8 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 11.76
9 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) 11.95
10 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 12.57
11 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 13.04
12 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) 13.65
13 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 13.78
14 Welsh ( ) 13.86
15 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 14.17
16 CEU ( ) 14.46
17 British ( ) 14.52
18 Belgian ( ) 14.58
19 North_European ( ) 14.65
20 English ( ) 14.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 13.3% Moroccan ( ) @ 3.02
2 84.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 15.5% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.19
3 84.3% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 15.7% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.33
4 85.1% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 14.9% Algerian ( ) @ 3.41
5 74.1% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 25.9% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 3.46
6 76.5% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 23.5% Tunisian_Jew ( ) @ 3.49
7 89.8% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 10.2% Saharawi ( ) @ 3.61
8 89% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 11% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 3.71
9 87.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 12.5% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.72
10 75.9% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) + 24.1% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 3.86
11 78.2% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) + 21.8% Tunisian_Jew ( ) @ 3.88
12 81.5% Spaniard ( ) + 18.5% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 3.91
13 74.1% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 25.9% Moroccan_Jew ( ) @ 3.92
14 75.5% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 24.5% Tunisian_Jew ( ) @ 3.92
15 73.1% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 26.9% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 3.93
16 73.5% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 26.5% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 3.99
17 82.7% Spaniard ( ) + 17.3% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 4.04
18 77.3% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 22.7% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 4.05
19 78.6% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 21.4% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 4.13
20 72% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 28% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 4.14

Nassbean
09-16-2019, 04:26 PM
I ran these samples with K36 and there is something really strange : it seems that during the Xth century euro components rise they even detected 8% french for one sample ! which is totally unusual for a north african there is also some big differences between those samples especially west med, ssa , iberian and italian components. Europeans discovered those islands only during the XIVth century so how can we explain it ?


edit : I maybe found an answer because El Idrissi talked about an expedition made by "Lisbon's adventurers" during the Xth century but we need more samples to drew such conclusion.

Gaditanian
09-16-2019, 05:30 PM
It is also CLEARLY showing that SSA in North Africa is ancient and not inherited from Arab slave trade, disproving totally the anthroforum-myth.


I have known some Canarian people, and my first impression with some of them, was that they looked mulatto, so the ssa features, are very ancient, before the arrival of the Guanches to Canary.

The Main difference that I see between Guanches and Berbers, is that Guanches doesn't have the east-med influence that berbers have.

Nassbean
09-16-2019, 07:22 PM
I have known some Canarian people, and my first impression with some of them, was that they looked mulatto, so the ssa features, are very ancient, before the arrival of the Guanches to Canary.

The Main difference that I see between Guanches and Berbers, is that Guanches doesn't have the east-med influence that berbers have.

Actually it depends which north africans some of them are clearly the result ot the trans-saharan slave trade :

https://i.imgur.com/JGk7Fua.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/t4c1gwu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7zLCWjB.jpg

Leto
09-16-2019, 07:40 PM
Actually it depends which north africans some of them are clearly the result ot the trans-saharan slave trade :

I remember your results, you got a big percentage of Atlantic and Western Mediterranean. Do you show no Negroid features?

Nassbean
09-16-2019, 07:51 PM
I remember your results, you got a big percentage of Atlantic and Western Mediterranean. Do you show no Negroid features?

I don't have any negroid features i'd say I look like a coastal north african :

https://i.imgur.com/VA3wWho.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/BeQASnL.jpg

Gaditanian
09-16-2019, 07:51 PM
Actually it depends which north africans some of them are clearly the result ot the trans-saharan slave trade :



Yep, these have strong SSA, but Canarians with Strong SSA are like these :

http://www.rtvc.es/handlers/ThumbnailHandler.ashx?src=%2Fnoticiasfva%2F192119_ RTVC2018-12-24-19h27m31s157.png&width=608&height=342&fill=True

https://m.eldiario.es/canariasahora/joven-tinerfeno-Ian-Suarez_EDIIMA20190208_0605_19.jpg

The last is funny, because resemble to me to the actor of Vikings Alex Høgh Anderse " Ivar " , that usually is classified as "nordid" :rolleyes:

https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/e/e/e/a/5/e/eeea5e701b7c94b012143ce0f5f426351847dd17.png?mw=60 0

Leto
09-16-2019, 07:56 PM
I don't have any negroid features i'd say I look like a coastal north african :

Thanks for sharing, now I know.

Leto
09-16-2019, 07:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7zLCWjB.jpg
This guy is probably 35-40% SSA.

Lucas
09-16-2019, 09:26 PM
I don't have any negroid features i'd say I look like a coastal north african :

https://i.imgur.com/VA3wWho.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/BeQASnL.jpg

Can you post your K36 results?

Really no Negroid, ortoghnatic profile, straight hair, light skin, narrow nose.

Nassbean
09-16-2019, 10:32 PM
Can you post your K36 results?

Really no Negroid, ortoghnatic profile, straight hair, light skin, narrow nose.

https://i.imgur.com/rRiZIeE.png
https://i.imgur.com/m6eDqm4.png

Didac
12-06-2021, 03:02 AM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing !
They look like the purest kind of Berbers you could find because of isolation. Funnily their results are not that different from mine and other NorthAfricans especially Moroccans... except they have actually more SSA than the average coastal North African and have very low EastMed %. Their Red Sea & Atlantic % are still in the spectrum of the diversity of North African genetics, not the exact average but still. WestMed is higher than average also, I've never seen one that high but it is not surprising.
Basically, in Maghreb, the more EastMed you find, the more you go to the east (Tunisia etc...), the more WestMed you find, the more you go to the west (Morocco)... Canary Islands being to the extreme west, it makes sense.
The most important difference for me is the EastMed component, definitely lower than average, otherwise, it seems they clearly were very similar to other modern NorthAfrican/Berber groups.
It is also CLEARLY showing that SSA in North Africa is ancient and not inherited from Arab slave trade, disproving totally the anthroforum-myth.

My results for comparaison in the SAME calculator :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 24.66
2 East_Med 21.64
3 Atlantic 17.85
4 Red_Sea 14.9
5 Sub-Saharan 9.92
6 Northeast_African 8.44
7 North_Sea 1.43
8 Southeast_Asian 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 6.97
2 Tunisian 8.72
3 Moroccan 9.71
4 Algerian 9.96
5 Algerian_Jewish 21.2
6 West_Sicilian 21.84
7 Italian_Jewish 23.11
8 Sephardic_Jewish 23.12
9 Tunisian_Jewish 23.66
10 East_Sicilian 23.69
11 Tuscan 23.77
12 Ashkenazi 24.33
13 Libyan_Jewish 24.45
14 South_Italian 24.66
15 Egyptian 25.19
16 Italian_Abruzzo 25.4
17 North_Italian 25.78
18 Central_Greek 25.9
19 Greek 26.52
20 Spanish_Extremadura 26.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.5% Mozabite_Berber + 13.5% French_Basque @ 3.84
2 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.2
3 83% Mozabite_Berber + 17% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.36
4 84.1% Mozabite_Berber + 15.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.41
5 84% Mozabite_Berber + 16% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.41
6 85.6% Mozabite_Berber + 14.4% Southwest_French @ 4.54
7 85.3% Mozabite_Berber + 14.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.66
8 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.77
9 84% Mozabite_Berber + 16% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.83
10 85.1% Mozabite_Berber + 14.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.94
11 86% Mozabite_Berber + 14% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.99
12 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% North_Italian @ 5.16
13 85.4% Mozabite_Berber + 14.6% Portuguese @ 5.18
14 86.3% Mozabite_Berber + 13.7% Sardinian @ 5.27
15 84.3% Tunisian + 15.7% French_Basque @ 5.35
16 86.4% Mozabite_Berber + 13.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.39
17 84.3% Mozabite_Berber + 15.7% Tuscan @ 5.49
18 89.8% Mozabite_Berber + 10.2% French @ 5.73
19 84.4% Mozabite_Berber + 15.6% West_Sicilian @ 5.78
20 91.4% Mozabite_Berber + 8.6% South_Dutch @ 5.93




Got a pic of urself ? Very intrigued to see closest relatives to a gaunche