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Ajeje Brazorf
06-30-2018, 09:09 AM
Are they the same thing?

Ajeje Brazorf
06-30-2018, 09:23 AM
bump

Leto
06-30-2018, 09:31 AM
The EHG had ANE, as far as I know.

Ajeje Brazorf
06-30-2018, 09:34 AM
The EHG had ANE, as far as I know.

So it is different from WHG? What about UHG?

Leto
06-30-2018, 09:35 AM
So it is different from WHG? What about UHG?
Yes, it was somewhat different. I don't know what UHG stands for.

Petalpusher
06-30-2018, 09:52 AM
EHG : 25% WHG + 75% ANE
SHG : 75% WHG + 25% ANE
+/-, the estimation will vary depending on which samples are used exactly

UHG is the WHG stuff early farmers/foragers already had. In K7, it was sourced on the non basal Otzi had so it adds up to other sources of WHG, it was called unknown HG back then but it's the same thing as revealed by the newer studies and K8, and ENF in K7 is mostly a Basal Eurasian hence why it doesn't peak in Sardians like a regular ENF component.


https://tof.cx/images/2018/06/30/3ca55dc4fde0c613d3574c25cccde9f3.jpg

Lazaridis model:
"Eastern European hunter-gatherers (EHG) are a mixture of WHG and a population on the Onge→Han cline"

rein
06-30-2018, 09:54 AM
Yes, it was somewhat different. I don't know what UHG stands for.

Nobody does. It’s unknown hunter gatherer.

Token
06-30-2018, 09:57 AM
WHG and EHG are completely different entities. UHG is old terminology, just drop it.

Ajeje Brazorf
06-30-2018, 10:11 AM
EHG : 25% WHG + 75% ANE
SHG : 75% WHG + 25% ANE
+/-, the estimation will vary depending on which samples are used exactly

UHG is the WHG stuff early farmers/foragers already had. In K7, it was sourced on the non basal Otzi had so it adds up to other sources of WHG, it was called unknown HG back then but it's the same thing as revealed by the newer studies and K8, and ENF in K7 is mostly a Basal Eurasian hence why it doesn't peak in Sardians like a regular ENF component.


https://tof.cx/images/2018/06/30/3ca55dc4fde0c613d3574c25cccde9f3.jpg

Lazaridis model:
"Eastern European hunter-gatherers (EHG) are a mixture of WHG and a population on the Onge→Han cline"

Ok now it's clear to me. Thanks to all of you for the answers :)

Percivalle
06-30-2018, 11:56 AM
I don't know what UHG stands for.

UHG stands for Unknown Hunter-Gatherer.

WHG = Western Hunter-Gatherer

EHG = Eastern Hunter-Gatherer

SHG = Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherer

CHG = Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer

Kouros
06-30-2018, 12:33 PM
I found this infographic helpful. What I want to know is where ANE came from and why do both CHGs and EHGs score so much of it.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/iran.png

Ajeje Brazorf
07-08-2018, 09:04 AM
CHG is ENF + ANE?