Lothar Matthäus MyHeritage results

[Peterski]

That's a whole lot of East Europe (Baltic + Balkan + East European), is his ancestry East German?:

https://footballdna.myheritage.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_Matth%C3%A4us

https://s8.postimg.cc/wuw9mxslx/Screen_Hunter_2445_Jun._29_13.51.jpg

Edit:

I read now that Lothar Matthäus was born in what was Czech territory for centuries:

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Cesk%C3%A1_Falc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Palatinate

He was born in what is called "Horni Falc" (now part of Bavaria but formerly Czech):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Koruna_ceska_Karel_IV.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Koruna_ceska_Karel_IV.png

I guess this explains why he scored so much of Eastern European admixtures?

[Peterski]

He says that he did suspect Eastern European admixtures:

https://footballdna.myheritage.com/lothar-matthaus/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moLwh8UXbv4

[Damião de Góis]

23andme would be a lot better. I think he would score very differently there.

[Peterski]

But does anyone know where is his ancestry actually from? My guess is that 1/4 English is bullshit, but Eastern stuff is real.

[Peterski]

I think he would score very differently there.

Which part(s) of his results do you doubt the most? Here are my family's MyHeritage results* - based on this you can tell that they are assigning Baltic / Balkan / East European quite randomly (just compare my grandma's results and her daughter's - my mom's - results; they modeled my grandma with a mix of Baltic + Balkan, while nearly all of this disappeared and was replaced by East European in my mom):

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?246632-MyHeritage-regional-averages



MyHeritage
Grandma
Mom
Dad
Me


East Euro
33.9%
68.4%
60.3%
72.8%


Balkan
25.6%
1.4%
16.7%
3.4%


Baltic
20.1%

6.1%



North & West Euro

30.2%
1.8%
23.8%


Scandinavian
19.1%

7.4%



Irish, Scottish & Welsh


6.4%



Finnish
1.3%




[/tr]

Ambiguous


1.3%




But still they count Baltic and Balkan as parts of their broad Eastern Euro category.

*Raw data transfer from FTDNA.

[Damião de Góis]

Which part(s) of his results do you doubt the most? Here are my family's MyHeritage results* - based on this you can tell that they are assigning Baltic / Balkan / East European quite randomly (just compare my grandma's results and her daughter's - my mom's - results; they modeled my grandma with a mix of Baltic + Balkan, while nearly all of this disappeared and was replaced by East European in my mom):

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?246632-MyHeritage-regional-averages

But still they count Baltic and Balkan as parts of their broad Eastern Euro category.

*Raw data transfer from FTDNA.

I suspect most of his ancestry would fall under "French and German" on 23andme and his British score would be lower. Not sure about the rest.
Anyway i watched the video of the footballers doing these tests and they were taking this literally as direct ancestry... :picard1:

[Peterski]

23andMe is overrated in my opinion. At least the quality of their raw data, I'm talking about their new v5 chip, is not perfect.

Actually v3 and v4 were better chips, v5 has a smaller number of SNPs (which is why it doesn't work on regular GEDmatch).

[Peterski]

The reason why people get less mixed results on 23andMe is because they snip the genome into 100 SNP long segments. If among these 100 SNPs you have 51 which indicate French-German and 49 which indicate Balkan, they will assign the whole segment to French-German.

Maybe it looks more accurate but it is artificially achieved accuracy (through their methodology described above).

They basically underestimate the amount of minor admixtures and overestimate your main ancestry.

[kaltar]

MyHeritage is not very reliable.

[Lek]

Which part(s) of his results do you doubt the most? Here are my family's MyHeritage results* - based on this you can tell that they are assigning Baltic / Balkan / East European quite randomly (just compare my grandma's results and her daughter's - my mom's - results; they modeled my grandma with a mix of Baltic + Balkan, while nearly all of this disappeared and was replaced by East European in my mom):

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?246632-MyHeritage-regional-averages



MyHeritage
Grandma
Mom
Dad
Me


East Euro
33.9%
68.4%
60.3%
72.8%


Balkan
25.6%
1.4%
16.7%
3.4%


Baltic
20.1%

6.1%



North & West Euro

30.2%
1.8%
23.8%


Scandinavian
19.1%

7.4%



Irish, Scottish & Welsh


6.4%



Finnish
1.3%




[/tr]

Ambiguous


1.3%




But still they count Baltic and Balkan as parts of their broad Eastern Euro category.

*Raw data transfer from FTDNA.


Their Balkan is also interchangeable with Greek. You can see this when looking at Albanian results.

MyHeritage is crap as of now but heard they were gonna update it.

[Mingle]

23andMe is overrated in my opinion. At least the quality of their raw data, I'm talking about their new v5 chip, is not perfect.

Actually v3 and v4 were better chips, v5 has a smaller number of SNPs (which is why it doesn't work on regular GEDmatch).

Why didn't they just stick with the V3 and V4 chips then?

[Peterski]

Robert Pires: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?250438-Robert-Pires-MyHeritage-results


Why didn't they just stick with the V3 and V4 chips then?

Reducing their costs. But not the price for customers, I guess?

[Illancha]

makes complete historical sense. germans mixed with and assimilated a lot of baltic and slavic populations.

[rein]

Even has a bit of Jewish. I wonder of that was correctly detected by myheritage.

[Peterski]

I read now that Lothar Matthäus was born in what was Czech territory for centuries:

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Cesk%C3%A1_Falc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Palatinate

He was born in what is called "Horni Falc" (now part of Bavaria but formerly Czech):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Koruna_ceska_Karel_IV.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Koruna_ceska_Karel_IV.png