View Full Version : Why do people say Italians have asian eyes?
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 03:50 PM
i've encountered this belief many times on TA
...i mean in the same longitudinal frame i don't think italians are different from the others.
[url=https://imgbb.com/]https://image.ibb.co/iX4Z6d/Cattura_JPG_occhi_cines.jpg
in this area the most asian eyed are Danes for sure imo.
what do you think?
Papastratosels26
07-01-2018, 03:52 PM
They troll Italians.
Sikeliot
07-01-2018, 03:55 PM
When has anyone ever said such a thing?
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 03:57 PM
They troll Italians.
i sniffed that, but what would be the joke that this statement would develop on i still don't understand.
Etruscan may have been asian (but pre turk asia minor not central asia), while the only "asian" people to (briefly) have fought in italy where Hungarians under Berengarius, still nothing major.
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 03:58 PM
When has anyone ever said such a thing?
more or less a handful of times i've seen that here, i don't recall if it was from a single or multiple users
Papastratosels26
07-01-2018, 04:14 PM
i sniffed that, but what would be the joke that this statement would develop on i still don't understand.
Etruscan may have been asian (but pre turk asia minor not central asia), while the only "asian" people to (briefly) have fought in italy where Hungarians under Berengarius, still nothing major.
Just ignore this trolls xD.
They’re probably just stating their observation.
Percivalle
07-01-2018, 04:40 PM
Etruscan may have been asian (but pre turk asia minor not central asia), while the only "asian" people to (briefly) have fought in italy where Hungarians under Berengarius, still nothing major.
Etruscans have nothing to do with Central Asian Turks. And the Etruscans' almond eyes found in the statues are an artistic style borrowed from the Greek Kouros. Obviously it's not a realistic style.
All these are Greek Kouros (plural kouroi)
http://www.lamdhabooks.com.au/large_pix/69019.jpg
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_32.11.1_av3.jpg
https://st.depositphotos.com/1003264/5088/i/950/depositphotos_50884711-stock-photo-ancient-greek-kouros-statue.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N2E29razY6g/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/farberas/arth/Images/ARTH209images/Sculpture/archaic/tenea_kouros_head.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/KAMA_Kouros_Porte_Sacr%C3%A9e.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/517/19390210345_6c4c983968_b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Ac.kleobisandbiton.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Mostra_sul_colore_nell%27antichit%C3%A0_02_-_Foto_G._Dall%27Orto_28-5-2006.jpg/1024px-Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Mostra_sul_colore_nell%27antichit%C3%A0_02_-_Foto_G._Dall%27Orto_28-5-2006.jpg
https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8545/9010096673_11b3b29f8f_b.jpg
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 04:48 PM
Etruscans have nothing to do with Central Asian Turks. And the Etruscans' almond eyes found in the statues are an artistic style borrowed from the Greek Kouros. Obviously it's not a realistic style.
All these are Greek Kouros (plural kouroi)
http://www.lamdhabooks.com.au/large_pix/69019.jpg
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_32.11.1_av3.jpg
https://st.depositphotos.com/1003264/5088/i/950/depositphotos_50884711-stock-photo-ancient-greek-kouros-statue.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N2E29razY6g/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/farberas/arth/Images/ARTH209images/Sculpture/archaic/tenea_kouros_head.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/KAMA_Kouros_Porte_Sacr%C3%A9e.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/517/19390210345_6c4c983968_b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Ac.kleobisandbiton.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Mostra_sul_colore_nell%27antichit%C3%A0_02_-_Foto_G._Dall%27Orto_28-5-2006.jpg/1024px-Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Mostra_sul_colore_nell%27antichit%C3%A0_02_-_Foto_G._Dall%27Orto_28-5-2006.jpg
https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8545/9010096673_11b3b29f8f_b.jpg
but pre turk asia minor not central asia).
yes i knew that, Anatolia was in the ellenic sphere of influence and the beauty model of etruscan is clearly influenced by the archaic greek one…(kouroi statues).
Lemnian hypothesis makes sense also by this artistic point of view.
the thing about this "italian with asian eyes" is that it was said in all those kind of thread of the kind "spot the italian"; people said the italian is the one with asian eyes"
kaltar
07-01-2018, 04:57 PM
They only say it to troll Italians. Asian eyes can exist anywhere in Europe. Alpinids can often have these eyes, even certain Nordic types. Everywhere in Europe Asian eyes are rare.
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 05:00 PM
They only say it to troll Italians. Asian eyes can exist anywhere in Europe. Alpinids can often have these eyes, even certain Nordic types. Everywhere in Europe Asian eyes are rare.
in fact i would say that the most asian eyes are Danes (because of migrations from the baltic) but even the French have their share of asian eyes too
Scipio Africanus
07-01-2018, 05:01 PM
https://media.tenor.com/images/a6ee3e3947720b5580468c2a4d0c0185/tenor.gif
Kivan
07-01-2018, 05:05 PM
Never seem one with that eyes.
http://img.medscape.com/pi/features/slideshow-slide/foreign-body-sensation/fig12.jpg
Percivalle
07-01-2018, 05:06 PM
yes i knew that, Anatolia was in the ellenic sphere of influence and the beauty model of etruscan is clearly influenced by the archaic greek one…(kouroi statues).Lemnian hypothesis makes sense also by this artistic point of view. the thing about this "italian with asian eyes" is that it was said in all those kind of thread of the kind "spot the italian"; people said the italian is the one with asian eyes"
Lemnian hypothesis has nothing to do with almond eyes, because the Greeks themselves in the archaic phase were influenced by Egyptian art. Almond eyes as an artitic style come from there. Lemnian language is younger than Etruscan (many are convinced that it is an Etruscan settlement in Lemnos, and not vice versa), and Etruscan language has the older link with the Rhaetian language spoken in the Alps.
is that it was said in all those kind of thread of the kind "spot the italian"; people said the italian is the one with asian eyes"
It was told by someone who trolls the Italians. Not people but just one specific person. Che non è nuovo a questo trolling.
i never heard such a thing
Tauromachos
07-01-2018, 05:10 PM
i never heard such a thing
Hey welcome back
You haven't been around here for a long time
Hey welcome back
You haven't been around here for a long time
thanks :) yes..since march i think
Myanthropologies
07-01-2018, 05:17 PM
I've never heard anyone say Italians have Asian eyes. People just say they're swarthy.
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 05:35 PM
many are convinced that it is an Etruscan settlement in Lemnos
It was told by someone who trolls the Italians. Not people but just one specific person. Che non è nuovo a questo trolling.
Hmm it could be the other way around (etruscan colony)i never thought of it that way.
About the rhaetian connection i knew that. Also maybe you know, some etruscan deity names can be found in similar roots in central european paganism. [emoji57]
About the trolling maybe it was by the same guy in two threads in any case the thing that made me open this thread was finding this statement in different threads. But i thought it was from two different guys.
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gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 06:28 PM
Never seem one with that eyes.
http://img.medscape.com/pi/features/slideshow-slide/foreign-body-sensation/fig12.jpg
And in fact you are right
The absolute maximum that you can find is this alpinoid/subnordid shape, and only in northern Italy
This is a friend of mine. But it's perfectly eurohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180701/91f4e868b7486536251444bf3f368b77.jpg
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decordoba
07-01-2018, 06:36 PM
There are Indo-Brachid people - who look similar to South European / Italian. There are a small number of SouthEast Asians, who look similar.
If you see these people in the streets of an Italian city, you dont know that they are Asian. (there are not only their eyes - it is the whole vibe)
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 06:44 PM
There are Indo-Brachid people - who look similar to South European / Italian. There are a small number of SouthEast Asians, who look similar.
If you see these people in the streets of an Italian city, you dont know that they are Asian. (there are not only their eyes - it is the whole vibe)
Hmmm that is a bit of a stretch..
Indo brachid do not look like even south italians...
I can believe that you may believe that but i don't think it's true.
I appreciate your input though. To me those eye shaped that may resemble a bit asian eyes are mostly coming from alpinoid/subnordid phenos
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Teutone
07-01-2018, 06:57 PM
never heard about that in my entire life
decordoba
07-01-2018, 07:53 PM
Hmmm that is a bit of a stretch..
Indo brachid do not look like even south italians...
I can believe that you may believe that but i don't think it's true.
I appreciate your input though. To me those eye shaped that may resemble a bit asian eyes are mostly coming from alpinoid/subnordid phenos
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I do not say - that every Indo Brachid person look Italian, I said there are (any) Indo Brachid persons who look like Italians.
Columella
07-01-2018, 07:58 PM
Maybe because of guys like these. A very peculiar and extremely atypical look
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UKMAAOSwHPlWedVU/s-l300.jpg
Nurzat
07-01-2018, 08:09 PM
I've visited Italy many times, even in May this year, no Italian has Asian eyes. the almond-eyed ones are common enough, but it's an Eastern Mediterranean eye shape. plus, Italians usually don't have deep set eyes (deep rectangular eye sockets) that usually come with the supposed Asian eyes in CroMagnon Germanics, Finns, Balts and Slavs
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 08:28 PM
Maybe because of guys like these. A very peculiar and extremely atypical look
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UKMAAOSwHPlWedVU/s-l300.jpg
jeez...we gave the supporters/trolls even more fodder.
i would never guess this guy as Italian, maybe a Turcomann from the ottoman empire. very atypical
in no other case you get something close to this, the realistic range is Alpinoid/east med (and even east med it's only the outer portion of the eye opening that is slighlty more elongated and sharper)
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 08:29 PM
I've visited Italy many times, even in May this year, no Italian has Asian eyes. the almond-eyed ones are common enough, but it's an Eastern Mediterranean eye shape. plus, Italians usually don't have deep set eyes (deep rectangular eye sockets) that usually come with the supposed Asian eyes in CroMagnon Germanics, Finns, Balts and Slavs
maybe the trolls wanted to highlight the East med influence, who knows, crooked minds
Cuore di Tenebra
07-01-2018, 08:38 PM
Etruscans have nothing to do with Central Asian Turks. And the Etruscans' almond eyes found in the statues are an artistic style borrowed from the Greek Kouros. Obviously it's not a realistic style.
All these are Greek Kouros (plural kouroi)
http://www.lamdhabooks.com.au/large_pix/69019.jpg
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_32.11.1_av3.jpg
https://st.depositphotos.com/1003264/5088/i/950/depositphotos_50884711-stock-photo-ancient-greek-kouros-statue.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N2E29razY6g/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/farberas/arth/Images/ARTH209images/Sculpture/archaic/tenea_kouros_head.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/KAMA_Kouros_Porte_Sacr%C3%A9e.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/517/19390210345_6c4c983968_b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Ac.kleobisandbiton.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Mostra_sul_colore_nell%27antichit%C3%A0_02_-_Foto_G._Dall%27Orto_28-5-2006.jpg/1024px-Istanbul_-_Museo_archeologico_-_Mostra_sul_colore_nell%27antichit%C3%A0_02_-_Foto_G._Dall%27Orto_28-5-2006.jpg
https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8545/9010096673_11b3b29f8f_b.jpg
They're scary as fuck.
Gründig
07-01-2018, 09:12 PM
No one says this.
Percivalle
07-01-2018, 09:28 PM
maybe the trolls wanted to highlight the East med influence, who knows, crooked minds
Se hai notato la bandiera di quell'unico utente che ha detto che l'italiano aveva asian eyes è greca, è una bandiera greca.
Quindi ora un troll greco lo dice per rimarcare una influenza east med in Italia quando in Grecia ce n'è molta di più che in Italia?
A che gioco stiamo giocando?
Tu capisci che non ha molto senso come spiegazione.
Nurzat
07-01-2018, 09:31 PM
They're scary as fuck.
they are depictions of Ancient Aliens
this guy knows more, his name is Giorgio
https://www.monstersandcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/giorgio-ancient-aliens.jpg
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 09:34 PM
Se hai notato la bandiera di quell'unico utente che ha detto che l'italiano aveva asian eyes è greca, è una bandiera greca.
Quindi ora un troll greco lo dice per rimarcare una influenza east med in Italia quando in Grecia ce n'è molta di più che in Italia?
A che gioco stiamo giocando?
poi tocca vedere pure CHE greco è...alcuni lo fanno perché soffrono del complesso che tutto è originato da loro( questo significa che l'influenza east med la ammettono) altri invece per affermare che sono piu nordici(quindi la rinnegano) tskk abbe
Percivalle
07-01-2018, 09:37 PM
poi tocca vedere pure CHE greco è...alcuni lo fanno perché soffrono del complesso che tutto è originato da loro( questo significa che l'influenza east med la ammettono) altri invece per affermare che sono piu nordici(quindi la rinnegano) tskk abbe
Certo che lo è. Un greco del nord della Grecia.
Ma non c'entra niente l'east med, perché il tizio italiano che avrebbe asian eyes non ha alcuna influenza east med e tanto meno grandi occhi mediterranei. Al contrario i suoi occhi sono piccoli.
gıulıoımpa
07-01-2018, 09:38 PM
Certo che lo è. Un greco del nord della Grecia.
Ma non c'entra niente l'east med, perché il tizio italiano che avrebbe asian eyes non ha alcuna influenza east med e tanto meno grandi occhi mediterranei. Al contrario i suoi occhi sono piccoli.
stiamo dicendo la stessa cosa percivalle
Radiy
07-01-2018, 09:39 PM
never heard about that
jobodwannaa
07-01-2018, 10:00 PM
Very rare trait, can occasionally appear in Northeast Italy:
Boy from Verona (Veneto):
https://i.imgur.com/viokNrJ.png
People from Trieste (Friuli-Venezia Giulia):
https://i.imgur.com/1zCMGTz.png
https://i.imgur.com/l3I96mN.png
https://i.imgur.com/rmFfnJB.png
https://i.imgur.com/gjFB31M.png
https://i.imgur.com/aBVVC2r.png
https://i.imgur.com/LtbLVaD.png
https://i.imgur.com/ynGXdqG.png
jobodwannaa
07-03-2018, 04:24 PM
This guy from Taranto, Apulia (southern Italy)
https://i.imgur.com/z7IorHW.png
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