Why Muslims enjoy such a bad image in the media and the world

[Böri]

When you type Muslims, the images you see are like ones below

https://image.ibb.co/eojxhJ/m1.png

https://image.ibb.co/c4x6bd/m2.png

https://preview.ibb.co/f0Cgbd/m3.png

https://preview.ibb.co/fC5dNJ/m4.png

That's like straight from the wildness of the Arabian deserts.
A Bedouin culture.


Discuss.

[Böri]

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[Kaspias]

Muslims don't enjoy a bad image in the world, arabs enjoy.

[Sealin]

If people want that another group of people (religion or race, country) have an bad image, it is easy to make it look that way. It makes it easier looking bad if the, in this case, muslims, helps them with it without realizing it. Social media, propaganda.. Most of the muslims in some countries don't even live by their religion. They live by culture and are making things up, saying that that is Islam. It's dumb.. I believe that this is one of the biggest reasons why Muslims have an bad image and it's sad.

[itilvolga]

Muslims don't enjoy a bad image in the world, arabs enjoy.

this

[Mortimer]

Muslims don't enjoy a bad image in the world, arabs enjoy.

southasian and african muslims are the most hated not arabs.

european muslims then turks then arabs then southasian and african muslims. most of those pictures are pakistanis.

[Böri]

Muslims don't enjoy a bad image in the world, arabs enjoy.

Arabs and the Wahhabis have the monopoly on Islam. They would see Balkanian villager Muslims like you as half kaffirs.
Arabs see Islam as Jews see Judaism.
According to Arab standards, your Muslimness can be complete only if you Arabize.

[Kaspias]

Arabs and the Wahhabis have the monopoly on Islam. They would see Balkanian villager Muslims like you as half kaffirs.
Arabs see Islam as Jews see Judaism.
According to Arab standards, your Muslimness can be complete only if you Arabize.

I think they would see me as completely kaffir. Yes, i totally agree with you.

[Böri]

Islam's most followers are from different races and ethnicities having loads of different languages and cultures. However, in the mindset of the Arabs those people don't represent Islam.
In that sense, comparing Islam to Christianity which is popular faith is wrong. Islam is part like Judaism for the Arabs, that's a national Arab religion. So, the people who take this religion must strive to look like Arabs with their cloth, language, culture according to Arab standards.
Levantines and North Africans became Arabs.
Why other Muslims don't become Arabs? :)

[Kaspias]

Islam's most followers are from different races and ethnicities having loads of different languages and cultures. However, in the mindset of the Arabs those people don't represent Islam.
In that sense, comparing Islam to Christianity which is popular faith is wrong. Islam is part like Judaism for the Arabs, that's a national Arab religion. So, the people who take this religion must strive to look like Arabs with their cloth, language, culture according to Arab standards.
Levantines and North Africans became Arabs.
Why other Muslims don't become Arabs? :)

I don't care arabs views but religion and race are different things. A person can be both italian and muslim or both arab and christian, no need to assimilated by religion's ethnic culture. Everyone can believe any religion that they want, no matter their race.

[Mortimer]

I don't care arabs views but religion and race are different things. A person can be both italian and muslim or both arab and christian, no need to assimilated by religion's ethnic culture. Everyone can believe any religion that they want, no matter their race.

Thats true. I dont think Arabs want that everyone is Arab, but Islam demands solidarity to Ummah before race. You see this in the fighters who are in Iraq or Syria to fight jihad. I watched a testimony of a german and he said "Eventhough we came from very different backgrounds there was a special brotherhood and bond between us, I never experienced before".

[Böri]

Thats true. I dont think Arabs want that everyone is Arab, but Islam demands solidarity to Ummah before race. You see this in the fighters who are in Iraq or Syria to fight jihad. I watched a testimony of a german and he said "Eventhough we came from very different backgrounds there was a special brotherhood and bond between us, I never experienced before".

And how was that German? I mean how were his cloths? How were his beard shavings and manners? Let me guess... Like the people in the desert?

The Muslim Serbs and Bosniaks took the Islam from Turks.
Turks took Islam back in 10th century when Turks were living in what's today western Kazakhstan. There was no contact with Arabs. Turks were converted by some Khwarezmians and Sogdians.
Later Turks reached Turkey and went until Balkans without entering in contact with Arabs. And the Muslim Balkanians became Muslim with that process. No Arab involvement at all.

Now, the dudes from the desert have a problem with this.
They think that after all, the originally non-Arab Levantines and North Africans Arabized. How come others do not Arabize despite being Muslims?

Wahhabism and overall mainstream Arabs proceed with the revision of this process and think there are some problems. The status of 'universal religion, of Islam is questioned thus.

[Livin]

I don't care arabs views but religion and race are different things. A person can be both italian and muslim or both arab and christian, no need to assimilated by religion's ethnic culture. Everyone can believe any religion that they want, no matter their race.

You cant be muslim and greek!

[Mortimer]

And how was that German? I mean how were his cloths? How were his beard shavings and manners? Let me guess... Like the people in the desert?

The Muslim Serbs and Bosniaks took the Islam from Turks.
Turks took Islam back in 10th century when Turks were living in what's today western Kazakhstan. There was no contact with Arabs. Turks were converted by some Khwarezmians and Sogdians.
Later Turks reached Turkey and went until Balkans without entering in contact with Arabs. And the Muslim Balkanians became Muslim with that process. No Arab involvement at all.

Now, the dudes from the desert have a problem with this.
They think that after all, the originally non-Arab Levantines and North Africans Arabized. How come others do not Arabize despite being Muslims?

Wahhabism and overall mainstream Arabs proceed with the revision of this process and think there are some problems.

Yes he had a beard and muslim clothes. But many peoples had beards vikings too. Maybe the clothes are from the arabs, but maybe they are from isrealites, jesus had a beard too right?

[Böri]

Yes he had a beard and muslim clothes. But many peoples had beards vikings too. Maybe the clothes are from the arabs, but maybe they are from isrealites, jesus had a beard too right?

So..
You call his cloth and beard 'Muslim cloth and beard'...
That means Arabs succeeded with you, and made you think that their own culture is what Islam is...
Thus, being Muslim requires that you must wear like them, act like them, shave like them, live like them...

And that makes Islam a national Arab religion, not an universal religion.
Exactly as how Arabs see things.

They want every Muslim on earth goes through process Levantinves and Egyptians went during 8th century: ARABIZATION

[Bosniensis]

You cant be muslim and greek!

Diocletian disagree...

He said: "All Hellenes who convert to that Jewish religion are Jews"

Roman Empire had 40 religions.

Hellenic people are known for changing religions like socks.

Orthodox Church is merely a religious institution among the Greeks, while Greeks existed long before Jesus and Jews.

[Kaspias]

Thats true. I dont think Arabs want that everyone is Arab, but Islam demands solidarity to Ummah before race. You see this in the fighters who are in Iraq or Syria to fight jihad. I watched a testimony of a german and he said "Eventhough we came from very different backgrounds there was a special brotherhood and bond between us, I never experienced before".

You are right, but i think most of turks and balkan muslims don't care about this ummah thing. Also, they don't support jihad in any way too.


You cant be muslim and greek!

I'm already not greek, just living in greece. But your comment is shit. A person can be both muslim and greek.

[Anglojew]

Due to Islam & the actions of Muslims

[Luca]

Muslims don't enjoy a bad image in the world, arabs enjoy.

Wrong. All muslims are hated, no matter where they come from.
Some less (ie. south-east asians), some more (ie. everything south of europe).

[Böri]

The last people to Arabize is Waddadoids.
Somalia became member of the Arab League in 1974 despite they are not Arabs xD
They became good Muslims? Ha ha ha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCkyrrtVXts

They will follow the same process as Levant and North Africa with a 1200 years delay.

[Kaspias]

Wrong. All muslims are hated, no matter where they come from.
Some less (ie. south-east asians), some more (ie. everything south of europe).

I don't hate christian people, why they hate me? What i did? Nothing, so it's their own ignorance.

[Livin]

You are right, but i think most of turks and balkan muslims don't care about this ummah thing. Also, they don't support jihad in any way too.



I'm already not greek, just living in greece. But your comment is shit. A person can be both muslim and greek.

The only shit is you!

Last time.You can be Greek and believe even in buddhas,but Muslim forget it.

As for you and your people when a serious govrement come to things you will drinking coffee with Bori in Pontus mountains....!

[Kaspias]

The only shit is you!

Last time.You can be Greek and believe even in buddhas,but Muslim forget it.

As for you and your people when a serious govrement come to things you will drinking coffee with Bori in Pontus mountains....!


I really bored from greeks that have 30 IQ. Religion and your race doesn't matter. Take your head off from your shithole. Also do you really think greece can beat both bulgaria and turkey? Because if your government try to cast out us, will face both bulgarian government and turkey government. Istanbul is stronger than Greece :D

[rein]

Cherry picked images.

[Livin]

I really bored from greeks that have 30 IQ. Religion and your race doesn't matter. Take your head off from your shithole. Also do you really think greece can beat both bulgaria and turkey? Because if your government try to cast out us, will face both bulgarian government and turkey government. Istanbul is stronger than Greece :D

You are such an idiot!

You think Turkey will fight against Greece for some slavic subhumans like you?

The only reason why Greeks didnt kicked your asses out is becasue we respect human rights.


As for Bulgaria they cant beat us!Our Army is by far better.

[Böri]

Cherry picked images.

Ofc they are cherry picked. But they are the most widely shared and viral. Islam is like a desert wildness for most outsiders, that is how it is perceived around the world.

[Kaspias]

You are such an idiot!

You think Turkey will fight against Greece for some slavic subhumans like you?

The only reason why Greeks didnt kicked your asses out is becasue we respect human rights.


As for Bulgaria they cant beat us!Our Army is by far better.


Do you know that Turkey government claimed Pomaks are heritage of Turkey, so same with turks. Also there are only 25.000 Pomaks but about 150.000 Turks, Pomaks and Turks are living together.

[Sealin]

@Johnny Ola
Why can't a Greek be Muslim? Everyone can be and believe what they want. There is no need to hate unnecessary. You can keep your culture, language and traditions, no matter your religion. I see that you are Pontic Greek. I'm by myself originally from Trabzon and am Pontic too. The Pontic people, yes, your brothers and sisters with who you might have a huge DNA connection with, are Muslim in here. The Pontic people in Greece might be Christian, but what does that matter?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Because this is what you are, bori

You Invade from your backward Islamic countries (like turkey) to destroy European countries and civilization :(

[brennus dux gallorum]

@Johnny Ola
Why can't a Greek be Muslim? Everyone can be and believe what they want. There is no need to hate unnecessary. You can keep your culture, language and traditions, no matter your religion. I see that you are Pontic Greek. I'm by myself originally from Trabzon and am Pontic too. The Pontic people, yes, your brothers and sisters with who you might have a huge DNA connection with, are Muslim in here. The Pontic people in Greece might be Christian, but what does that matter?

We don't recognize people of Islamic religion as part of our nation

It's oppose to our native Greek (and then European) identity

[Porn Master]

if 1000000000000000000000 milliard muslims enjoy the world would be fucked up

[Böri]

When you type Palestinians, this is what you see.
Just look at them. Just look at their image and how that 's perceived in the world.

https://preview.ibb.co/cWCxXJ/p1.png

https://preview.ibb.co/gukCzy/p2.png

https://preview.ibb.co/iB7szy/p3.png

Their image is like Kurds clashing with Turkish policemen on Newruz day (March 21).

[brennus dux gallorum]

When you type Palestinians, this is what you see.
Just look at them. Just look at their image and how that 's perceived in the world.

https://preview.ibb.co/cWCxXJ/p1.png

https://preview.ibb.co/gukCzy/p2.png

https://preview.ibb.co/iB7szy/p3.png

The second pic is Russian BTW, he wears addidas

[Livin]

@Johnny Ola
Why can't a Greek be Muslim? Everyone can be and believe what they want. There is no need to hate unnecessary. You can keep your culture, language and traditions, no matter your religion. I see that you are Pontic Greek. I'm by myself originally from Trabzon and am Pontic too. The Pontic people, yes, your brothers and sisters with who you might have a huge DNA connection with, are Muslim in here. The Pontic people in Greece might be Christian, but what does that matter?

Greek people suffer much from Muslims!


You can be Greek and believe in Buddhas,Zeus,Odin you can be also atheist.But Muslim never!

As for you, if you are really Pontian you become muslim by violence and not by choise.

Do you recognize our geonocide or not?

[Porn Master]

Greek people suffer much from Muslims!


You can be Greek and believe in Buddhas,Zeus,Odin you can be also atheist.But Muslim never!

As for you if you are really Pontian you become muslim by violence and not by choise.

Do you recognize our geonocide or not?




don't fool people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Muslims

[brennus dux gallorum]

Greek people suffer much from Muslims!


You can be Greek and believe in Buddhas,Zeus,Odin you can be also atheist.But Muslim never!

As for you, if you are really Pontian you become muslim by violence and not by choise.

Do you recognize our geonocide or not?
Not only Greece, all societies in Europe suffer from their presence

[Sealin]

We don't recognize people of Islamic religion as part of our nation

It's oppose to our native Greek (and then European) identity

Nobody is waiting to be ''recognized', these are just simple facts that people need to accept. I was talking about Pontic people (in Greece), not Hellenic.

[Livin]

Do you know that Turkey government claimed Pomaks are heritage of Turkey, so same with turks. Also there are only 25.000 Pomaks but about 150.000 Turks, Pomaks and Turks are living together.

You really believe Erdogans stupid propaganda!!!

I bet no1 real Turk dont consider Pomaks as Turks and they will never fought for you....

[brennus dux gallorum]

don't fool people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Muslims

No matters what Wikipedia says, you can't be a part of a nation when this nation doesn't recognize you, and in case of Greeks, they have no idea that such a population exists in the nearby near eastern country, let alone considering them part of our nation

[Livin]

don't fool people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Muslims

Can you stay out of this babuska?


Plss you have no idea.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Nobody is waiting to be ''recognized', these are just simple facts that people need to accept. I was talking about Pontic people (in Greece), not Hellenic.

National identity requires recognition so your statement lacks logic

If Christian pontians don't recognize Muslims as part of their group then they aren't

[Porn Master]

No matters what Wikipedia says, you can't be a part of a nation when this nation doesn't recognize you, and in case of Greeks, they have no idea that such a population exists in the nearby near eastern country, let alone considering them part of our nation



If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. If they speek greek, if they look greek and behave like greeks then they're greeks. Why do you shame? It's okay

[Böri]

Muslims are 22% of World population.
No world power country.
No UN security council permanent member.
No technological production of any sort.
No Research and Development activity of any noteworthy level.

Muslims are on the same level as Hindus and SSA.
That's the reality in the world.
And Erabs think that it's great. Their answer is to get more conservative through Wahhabism and stick more to the desert culture xD

Just look at these Erabs.

[Kaspias]

Why you suffered? Then, a greek killed my grandfather in 1954. While my father 1 years old. Because he was muslim, also sister of my grandmother kidnapped by bulgarian gangs. Because he was muslim. I suffered myself, why i don't hate christian people? Am i stupid or idiot?

[Porn Master]

Can you stay out of this babuska?


Plss you have no idea.



babushka?? Wtf? Look at yourself in mirror, everyone will mistake you for a MENA muslim, you better shut up you ugly ethnikid

[Livin]

Nobody is waiting to be ''recognized', these are just simple facts that people need to accept. I was talking about Pontic people (in Greece), not Hellenic.

You didnt answer my qustion!

Do you recognize the Pontian Geonocide or not?

[Livin]

babushka?? Wtf? Look at yourself in mirror, everyone will mistake you for a MENA muslim, you better shut up you ugly ethnikid

Babuska plss drink your vodka i dont have time for you now....

[Böri]

You didnt answer my qustion!

Do you recognize the Pontian Geonocide or not?

There was no Pontian genocide you Armenoid scum.
Yourself said there are over 400k Pontic Greeks in Greece.
How come you still exist if you suffered genocide?

[Porn Master]

Babuska plss drink your vodka i dont have time for you now....



i dont drink vodka you brainwashed ugly creep xD i'd prefer to be babushka than a MENA looking cockroach like you xD

[brennus dux gallorum]

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. If they speek greek, if they look greek and behave like greeks then they're greeks. Why do you shame? It's okay

With only problem to your theory being that other than "speaking like Greeks", (some of their ancestors, not even themselves) they don't resemble anything else. They don't look like Greeks, neither behave neither live in Greece

And the most important (as we are talking about nations, not biological kinds) they are not accepted by Greeks as Greeks, which is enough to not be Greeks

Read the definition of the nation (which requires the feeling of "belonging") and stop spreading bs

[Livin]

There was no Pontian genocide you Armenoid scum.
Yourself said there are over 400k Pontic Greeks in Greece.
How come you still exist if you suffered genocide?

I am not gonna chatt with you about this stfu!


My question goes for thalassa.

[Kaspias]

You really believe Erdogans stupid propaganda!!!

I bet no1 real Turk dont consider Pomaks as Turks and they will never fought for you....

Can you read my "hero"? I hate Erdogan. Pomaks are not Turks but Pomaks are neighbours of Turks. There are about 600.000 pomaks living in Turkey. Why they live in Turkey? Because they are safe.

[Livin]

Can you read my "hero"? I hate Erdogan. Pomaks are not Turks but Pomaks are neighbours of Turks. There are about 600.000 pomaks living in Turkey. Why they live in Turkey? Because they are safe.

And why you dont move your ass to Turkey?

Why you stay here?

You are here by violence?

[Porn Master]

With only problem to your theory being that other than "speaking like Greeks", they don't resemble anything else. They don't look like Greeks, neither behave neither live in Greece

And the most important (as we are talking about nations, not biological kinds) they are not accepted by Greeks as Greeks, which is enough to not be Greeks

Read the definition of the nation (which requires the feeling of "belonging") and stop spreading bs




give me your proof like i did, you can find a lot of legit information about muslim greeks


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Greece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Muslims


wikipedia based on facts whether you like it or not

[Livin]

i dont drink vodka you brainwashed ugly creep xD i'd prefer to be babushka than a MENA looking cockroach like you xD

hahaha dude believe me even MENAS are million of times better than a russian slavotatar mongol hahahaha!!!

[Kaspias]

And why you dont move your ass to Turkey?

Why you stay here?

You are here by violence?


This is my motherland.

[Porn Master]

hahaha dude believe me even MENAS are million of times better than a russian slavotatar mongol hahahaha!!!







https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000229068277-3k31ib-t500x500.jpg



you look like arabs after all xd

[brennus dux gallorum]

give me your proof like i did, you can find a lot of legit information about muslim greeks


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Greece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Muslims


wikipedia based on facts whether you like it or not

My proof for what? Ask any Greek here and nobody will answer that he considers them part of our nation

And last time I checked no, Wikipedia was not considered an accurate source, neither it writes that they are part of our nation in any of these pages

[Livin]

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000229068277-3k31ib-t500x500.jpg



you look like arabs after all xd

Here you are buddy....


https://www.google.gr/search?biw=1920&bih=974&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=3rE8W9PVK8yMmgWS_ZKwAg&q=russians+funny&oq=russians+funny&gs_l=img.3..0i19k1j0i8i30i19k1l4.13115.13759.0.138 63.6.6.0.0.0.0.134.376.0j3.3.0....0...1c.1.64.img. .3.3.375...0i10i19k1.0.DXGM1_sHeDY#imgrc=kL5e3Un1b KPqNM:

[Porn Master]

My proof for what? Ask any Greek here and nobody will answer that he considers them part of our nation





i know why they don't want to consider them as their own nation xD because your neighbors are ready to troll you for it and this will make you shame right? xD such a self hatred bunch of inferiors

[Livin]

My proof for what? Ask any Greek here and nobody will answer that he considers them part of our nation

And last time I checked no, Wikipedia was not considered an accurate source, neither it writes that they are part of our nation in any of these pages

Dont waste your time with this slavotatar mongol dude.

He is babuska troller!

Tell him what Greeks doing to Russian women......SWEET LOVE ;)

[Porn Master]

Here you are buddy....


https://www.google.gr/search?biw=1920&bih=974&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=3rE8W9PVK8yMmgWS_ZKwAg&q=russians+funny&oq=russians+funny&gs_l=img.3..0i19k1j0i8i30i19k1l4.13115.13759.0.138 63.6.6.0.0.0.0.134.376.0j3.3.0....0...1c.1.64.img. .3.3.375...0i10i19k1.0.DXGM1_sHeDY#imgrc=kL5e3Un1b KPqNM:



they look badass and they can fight back unlike you cuckolded pedophile pricks xD


https://spunkybong.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/francis-scott-key.jpg

[Livin]

they look badass and they can fight back unlike you cuckolded pedophile pricks xD


https://spunkybong.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/francis-scott-key.jpg

hahahahaha is this you?


https://www.google.gr/search?q=russians+funny&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjy4ZSlr4XcAhWFDpoKHSpWBVAQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=974#imgrc=UNH9SHv3tQhiZM:

[Bosniensis]

My proof for what? Ask any Greek here and nobody will answer that he considers them part of our nation

If we count all Muslim Greeks in Anatolia, who do you think is more numerous? Your Orthodox group or Muslims?

In fact if Anatolian Muslims decided so, they could say to Mainland Greeks: "You have no right to call yourselves Greeks as minority"

I believe that at least 1/3 of Turks are Greeks, and that's already 25 million

Take for example Cretan Muslims (who were all Greek speakers) 500.000+, Macedonian Muslims (also expelled), Anatolian Greeks etc...

If you count them you would see that you are minority supported by Barbarians (Germanic peoples and other non Meds)

Lucky for you they identify as Turks... Your best hope is that future nations keep ignoring DNA Ancestry for true identification of peoples otherwise you are fucked.

xD

[brennus dux gallorum]

i know why they don't want to consider them as their own nation xD because your neighbors are ready to troll you for it and this will make you shame right? xD such a self hatred bunch of inferiors

Whatever the reason is, not considering a group as part of your nation is enough for this group to not be, and certainly there is no self-hatred as we are not Muslims ourselves, common logic retarded

[Böri]

If we count all Muslim Greeks in Anatolia, who do you think is more numerous? Your Orthodox group or Muslims?

In fact if Anatolian Muslims decided so, they could say to Mainland Greeks: "You have no right to call yourselves Greeks as minority"

I believe that at least 1/3 of Turks are Greeks, and that's already 25 million

Take for example Cretan Muslims (who were all Greek speakers) 500.000+, Macedonian Muslims (also expelled), Anatolian Greeks etc...

If you count them you would see that you are minority supported by Barbarians (Germanic peoples and other non Meds)

Lucky for you they identify as Turks... Your best hope is that future nations keep ignoring DNA Ancestry for true identification of peoples otherwise you are fucked.

xD

There are just a few hundreds of thousands of actual Greek Muslims from Aegean islands in Turkey.

Pontic Greeks are genetically Armenians and Assyrians above all.
They aren't even closer to Laz who are south Caucasians (60% Caucasus genetic component).

[Porn Master]

anatolians

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/cc/44/e7cc44b4530f99a6e99391b8ff99bff2.jpg


greeks

https://img.culturacolectiva.com/featured_image/2017/09/19b62261-15b8-41bc-9f75-59e145f9592e.jpg



no difference





The Sotadic Zone: Cultural paedophilia map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Sotadic_Zone.PNG

[Sealin]

Greek people suffer much from Muslims!


You can be Greek and believe in Buddhas,Zeus,Odin you can be also atheist.But Muslim never!

As for you, if you are really Pontian you become muslim by violence and not by choise.

Do you recognize our geonocide or not?


It's sad that you talk like this, but I don't blame you. We all heard stories of the Pontic people threatened badly by Hellenic-Greeks when they came there in 1923 (and the Turks in Greece were send to Turkey, it was a deal made in 1923 between Turkey and Greece). They called our people names like: ''You Turk bastard'', in general, they did everything to humiliate the Pontic people in that time in Greece. It is true that not every Pontic in Trabzon was Muslim, but act like they were, just to be able to stay in their own land.. Later, many people became Muslim by heart.

I know how hard it was in that time for our elders who were actually send to Greece. I red about it, I heard about it. All of the Pontic people there were maybe grown into hate towards their own people, just to make a normal living and fit into the society of Greece. I will never hate on my own people, no matter what religion they have and I ask you to do the same. Not many people speak the Pontian language anymore, all we have is our elders, our culture/cultural songs and each other to keep it going.

[brennus dux gallorum]

If we count all Muslim Greeks in Anatolia, who do you think is more numerous? Your Orthodox group or Muslims?

In fact if Anatolian Muslims decided so, they could say to Mainland Greeks: "You have no right to call yourselves Greeks as minority"

I believe that at least 1/3 of Turks are Greeks, and that's already 25 million

Take for example Cretan Muslims (who were all Greek speakers) 500.000+, Macedonian Muslims (also expelled), Anatolian Greeks etc...

If you count them you would see that you are minority supported by Barbarians (Germanic peoples and other non Meds)

Lucky for you they identify as Turks... Your best hope is that future nations keep ignoring DNA Ancestry for true identification of peoples otherwise you are fucked.

xD
There are roman Catholic, evangelical, paganist and atheist Greeks as well. It's Muslim part of Greek nation that doesn't exist

Secondly, We are not talking about dna here idiot, we are talking about nationality which is something social, not genetic, let alone that no genetic study proves what you say

[Böri]

I am not gonna chatt with you about this stfu!


My question goes for thalassa.

That's not the right thread to ask questions you Armenoid baboon.
Can't you see we discuss the Arab traditional image from deserts here, and their pride of their culture and desire to spread it?

[Bosniensis]

There are roman Catholic, evangelical, paganist and atheist Greeks as well

Secondly, We are not talking about dna here idiot, we are talking about nationality which is something social, not genetic, let alone that no genetic study proves what you say

Nations will die in the next 20 years, that's abomination created in the last 100 years.

Ancient Greeks cherished only Ancestry, nothing else.

As for Roman Catholics, I'll give you those Southern Italians, Sicilians... then maybe you can get close to Anatolians.

DNA will become very important in the next years due to massive influx of migrants, and that shall be only way to identify natives from migrants.

[Livin]

It's sad that you talk like this, but I don't blame you. We all heard stories of the Pontic people threatened badly by Hellenic-Greeks when they came there in 1923 (and the Turks in Greece were send to Turkey, it was a deal made in 1923 between Turkey and Greece). They called our people names like: ''You Turk bastard'', in general, they did everything to humiliate the Pontic people in that time in Greece. It is true that not every Pontic in Trabzon was Muslim, but act like they were, just to be able to stay in their own land.. Later, many people became Muslim by heart.

I know how hard it was in that time for our elders who were actually send to Greece. I red about it, I heard about it. All of the Pontic people there were maybe grown into hate towards their own people, just to make a normal living and fit into the society of Greece. I will never hate on my own people, no matter what religion they have and I ask you to do the same. Not many people speak the Pontian language anymore, all we have is our elders, our culture/cultural songs and each other to keep it going.





Locals yes dosnt treat us good,thats true!They called us Turks-Sperm!

But you didnt answer my question yet.Its a simple question!Do you recognize the geonocide yes or not?
It seems that you are afraid,but its okay.Its normal to be scared as fuck because Erdogan will kill you all.

As for Pontian Muslims in Turkey,now they are heavily mixed with Turks like we did in Greece.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Nations will die in the next 20 years, that's abomination created in the last 100 years.

Ancient Greeks cherished only Ancestry, nothing else.

As for Roman Catholics, I'll give you those Southern Italians, Sicilians... then maybe you can get close to Anatolians.

DNA will become very important in the next years due to massive influx of migrants, and that shall be only way to identify natives from migrants.

I am not talking about South Italians but native roman Catholics, bright

And even by dna, there is no study confirming your claims, there hardly is any Greek Dna in Turkey

[Livin]

That's not the right thread to ask questions you Armenoid baboon.
Can't you see we discuss the Arab traditional image from deserts here, and their pride of their culture and desire to spread it?

Chinese dump,your friend thalassa complaint to me first so i had to response!!!

[brennus dux gallorum]

Lol 4 Muslims trolling Greece the same time, and then wonder why we and the rest of Europe dislike their group

BTW to be honest I like Palestinians and Syrians

[Bosniensis]

I am not talking about South Italians but native roman Catholics, bright

And even by dna, there is no study confirming your claims, there hardly is any Greek Dna in Turkey

Roman Catholics are Barbarians, they are not Romans.

If you think that Roman Catholic Ugo Boncompagni the German is Hellene then you belong to them.

Charlemagne people are not Europeans nor Hellenes.

[Livin]

Lol 4 Muslims trolling Greece the same time, and then wonder why we and the rest of Europe dislike their group

BTW to be honest I like Palestinians and Syrians

Palestinians at least never did geonocides!!!

[Bosniensis]

Lol 4 Muslims trolling Greece the same time, and then wonder why we and the rest of Europe dislike their group

BTW to be honest I like Palestinians and Syrians

I like Syrians and Egyptians, but I dislike Arabs, Afgani and others.

[Porn Master]

syrians, egyptians, arabs, greeks, italians, turks, armenians, azeris, gypsies and other ethnikids are fucking same

[TheTraveler]

OK, a couple of things to say:

1) The pictures at the beginning of this post I think is what most people who know not too much about Islam think of when they see a Muslim. Basically terrorism and Jihadists = Muslim = BAD to most people who are not well educated or experienced in the subject. However, clearly from this discussion it is a very complicated subject in terms of the different "types" of Muslims. I know a few Muslims myself and they are very nice people.

However, from what I can see and from my experiences, I think Western culture is incompatible with Muslim culture. Clearly Sharia law is completely incompatible with Western law. I think people just need to realize this. If one migrates into a Western culture, then assimilate peacefully and respect the culture and the people where one finds themselves. If one migrates to a Muslim culture, then do the same; assimilate peacefully and respect the culture and the people. This is exactly what I do when I travel and live where ever.

But lets be clear: Terrorism and Jihadists are cowards at the highest level and evil to the core.

2) Regarding Greeks and whether they can or cannot be Muslim, I must agree that there is a strong anti-Muslim sentiment in Greece among the "true Greeks" as I would say it. Idealistically, of course, anyone should be able to follow any faith, but in practice this is not the case as culture weighs in strongly. While Johnny Ola is a little harsh in is choice of words, I must agree with his view point. "True Greeks" (for lack of a better term) are not Muslim. No!

[Livin]

syrians, egyptians, arabs, greeks, italians, turks, armenians, azeris, gypsies and other ethnikids are fucking same

I think we all have somthing in common!

We fuck russian escort/Prostitutes.... ;)

[Porn Master]

I think we all have somthing in common!

We fuck russian escort/Prostitutes.... ;)




what is greek love?


https://img.culturacolectiva.com/featured_image/2017/09/19b62261-15b8-41bc-9f75-59e145f9592e.jpg



The Sotadic Zone: Cultural paedophilia map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Sotadic_Zone.PNG

[Livin]

what is greek love?


https://img.culturacolectiva.com/featured_image/2017/09/19b62261-15b8-41bc-9f75-59e145f9592e.jpg



The Sotadic Zone: Cultural paedophilia map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Sotadic_Zone.PNG


Wanna know?

I will punish you till you love me....:D

[Porn Master]

Wanna know?

I will punish you till you love me....:D





you don't, i do. i can play with your hair ass till you love me xD



https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71vHuqY2cpL._SX355_.jpg

[Livin]

you don't, i do. i can play with your hair ass till you love me xD



https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71vHuqY2cpL._SX355_.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx66LWV-CCk
Dedicated

[Böri]

anatolians

greeks


no difference


The Sotadic Zone: Cultural paedophilia map


Look at this map instead.
Something must appear familiar to you.

Look now.

Look again.

Look carefully to the southeastern part

https://preview.ibb.co/eGvCGd/mongol.png

[Porn Master]

Look at this map instead.
Something must appear familiar to you.

Look now.

Look again.

Look carefully to the southeastern part

https://preview.ibb.co/eGvCGd/mongol.png




shit map

[Porn Master]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx66LWV-CCk
Dedicated



it was me, not you. you ethnikid. You can't handle with my black power superiority

[Sealin]

Locals yes dosnt treat us good,thats true!They called us Turks-Sperm!

But you didnt answer my question yet.Its a simple question!Do you recognize the geonocide yes or not?
It seems that you are afraid,but its okay.Its normal to be scared as fuck because Erdogan will kill you all.

As for Pontian Muslims in Turkey,now they are heavily mixed with Turks like we did in Greece.

It is offtopic (I apologize for the person who opened this topic), but to be honest; I don't want to give you a answer (after my own studies, book readings) you can't handle. I know how you would react. If you still want to know how I think, you can ask again. I will not go on in an discussion without respect towards each other, so, watch your words.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Muslims =violence, low education/civilization, welfare clients, just like gypos but with more hatred towards Europe

[Livin]

It is offtopic (I apologize for the person who opened this topic), but to be honest; I don't want to give you a answer (after my own studies, book readings) you can't handle. I know how you would react. If you still want to know how I think, you can ask again. I will not go on in an discussion without respect towards each other, so, watch your words.

Ye whatever you say!

Be care of your words because Tagip will prison you hahahaha..!!!

[Böri]

Muslims =violence, low education/civilization, welfare clients, just like gypos but with more hatred towards Europe

That's actually the global image of Muslims. I watched videos even some Japanese people (where Muslim population is less than 1/1000) say they have bad image of Muslims. The Erabs wearing long skirt and spreading backwardness with pride and part of their identity are the main responsible for this image.
Sadly that affects the image of non-desert people too. Like Turks, Malays, Nigerians and so.

[Egyptian]

You cant be muslim and greek!

I got classified Greek and yet i'm Muslim :lol:

[Egyptian]

this

Seriously, you think turks have the good reputation?

[Benyzero]

Cause the people practicing the islam tend to be fanaticize by it (not the majority probably). Also it's a strange religion to most europeans atleast where I live, and of course all the media pressure of these bombing, attacking cases are not helping the situation.

[itilvolga]

Seriously, you think turks have the good reputation?

Way better than Arabs. At least we don’t sell our honor for oils or sucking America’s somewhere. Also i am not talking about west side, we have a good reputation in east side and that’s the most important. If you are on correct way, West always tries to disqualification you. But i don’t see any Arabic country who helps Muslims more than us. Who helps Africans more than us. Who helps oppressed people more than us. If you meant Europeans’ opinion when you wrote “reputation”, sorry but it seems like you are another sold sucker.

[rein]

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/07/saudi-agrees-demand-pump-oil-180703133150335.html

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/amp/turkish-actress-investigated-over-tweet-on-rapes-in-saudi-arabia-134157

[Egyptian]

Way better than Arabs. At least we don’t sell our honor for oils or sucking America’s somewhere. Also i am not talking about west side, we have a good reputation in east side and that’s the most important. If you are on correct way, West always tries to disqualification you. But i don’t see any Arabic country who helps Muslims more than us. Who helps Africans more than us. Who helps oppressed people more than us. If you meant Europeans’ opinion when you wrote “reputation”, sorry but it seems like you are another sold sucker.

Who helps more than us who does more than us bla bla.

I don't think you fought for Palestine more than Egypt.
I don't think you fought for Algeria more than Egypt = France,England and israel attacking us in 1956
I don't think you fought for Syria more than us= gap hole of suez by jews.
I don't think you fought for kuwait= Egyptian participation in in 1991

etc

seriously stop with the propaganda.. your people have history not worth to mention except for the islamic period when constantinople was opened... other than that u should keep your mouth shut, because none accept you, you run for european union and they don't accept u, you run for the east and they don't accept you.

enough with arrogance.

[itilvolga]

Who helps more than us who does more than us bla bla.

I don't think you fought for Palestine more than Egypt.
I don't think you fought for Algeria more than Egypt = France,England and israel attacking us in 1956
I don't think you fought for Syria more than us= gap hole of suez by jews.
I don't think you fought for kuwait= Egyptian participation in in 1991

etc

seriously stop with the propaganda.. your people have history not worth to mention except for the islamic period when constantinople was opened... other than that u should keep your mouth shut, because none accept you, you run for european union and they don't accept u, you run for the east and they don't accept you.

enough with arrogance.

lol yallah arab

[Böri]

Egyptian is right. Tayip tried to be leader of the Arab world, but rich Gulf Arabs rejected his leadership xD Remember tensions last year.
He will maybe try to do like Selim I by bringing Arab scholars to Turkey and giving control of Turkey to Arabs for the Arabization. Maybe then he could have a chance. Egypt is still the strongest of Arab countries though Saudis are spreading Wahhabism very quickly there.

[Dandelion]

A slightly exaggerated image. However, to me it's just the doctrine that I find a tad too suffocating. I notice that many muslim individuals ignore rules of Islam, because they themselves can't live by them. However, they are more willing to put up with Islamic bullshit than non-muslims, which is still worrisome.

I don't want to circumcise my sons (Islam is more lenient than Judaism here, converts don't need to get circumcised and I know one person who isn't circumcised because he was ill around that age and his mother thought he should not suffer more pain; but it's still so highly recommended in Islam it's the norm there and I want that tradition to disappear rather than get imported here).
I don't believe that sex should be only after marriage (many muslims break this rule).
I don't think pork is unclean, yet Islam even goes as far as making touching a pig taboo going farther than even Jews.
Women should be allowed to get outside without a chaperone (a rule many muslims break)
Islam, strictly speaking, allows sex with slaves. No matter how you turn it, it's there in the Qur'an and I believe it's barbaric for all times. No excuse for Muhammad if he truly was a man of God and not just a warlord.

Muhammad also married a woman whose husband and brother he killed after a brutal torture and consummated the marriage one day after making her convert to Islam. Now, I can't imagine how this isn't rape. Some muslims themselves even mentioned Muhammad apologised every day to her, so at least some realise it's messed up. Hardly virtuous to me, though.

Muhammad widows weren't allowed to remarry and Muhammad took more than four wives (one is enough IMO), because he was the warlord. Hardly a man of God to me, just a warlord who got people into following him who died rich and powerful. I just can't see the virtue in him.

He's just like Genghis Khan to me, but who a group of followers of a religion revere is as the epitome of virtue.

[Marmara]

It's true that Islam spreads the Arab culture, especially in this century with fast travel and communication tools.

[Marmara]

The most ridiculous thing about Islam is that you have to pray in Arabic.

Imagine a non-Arab praying in Arabic, no idea what he's saying just spelling words he memorized.

[itilvolga]

Egyptian is right. Tayip tried to be leader of the Arab world, but rich Gulf Arabs rejected his leadership xD Remember tensions last year.
He will maybe try to do like Selim I by bringing Arab scholars to Turkey and giving control of Turkey to Arabs for the Arabization. Maybe then he could have a chance. Egypt is still the strongest of Arab countries though Saudis are spreading Wahhabism very quickly there.

We were talking about “Turks” and their reputation, not Tayyip.

[Sealin]

The most ridiculous thing about Islam is that you have to pray in Arabic.

Imagine a non-Arab praying in Arabic, no idea what he's saying just spelling words he memorized.

It's more than that. A person who learns to memorize, could also learn the meaning of what he memorize.

[Marmara]

It's more than that. A person who learns to memorize, could also learn the meaning of what he memorize.

There is absolutely no logic in praying in a foreign language, as if it's holy.

It is actually, a Muslim must accept the holyness of Arabic language and script.

[Böri]

Until recent years random Turks never interacted with Arabs over last 1200 years. That’s why Türks perceived Islam as global religion similar to Christianity however Arabs started to show their philosophy of perceiving Islam as a national religion, just as Judaism is for Hebrews and they look at Turks as if smth is missing about their religion: the Arab component. The strong wave of Arab cultural assault that is happening in Turkey created a cultural shock which even sociologists can’t explain.
Europeans and Israel support the Saudi regime for this reason too since Wahhabism fits their agenda of the backward desert religion. Wahhabism thus is the real Islam now :)

[Böri]

With Wahhabi funding and Arab propaganda in Turkey, over last 15 years firstnames typical of Hejaz Arabs, which were unseen until now, started to appear in Turkey for newborns. Like Aleyna, Enes, Yaser, Ejrin etc. There is systematic Arabization attempt of the society.

[Egyptian]

lol yallah arab

Does that even mean anything?

[itilvolga]

Does that even mean anything?

just leave, hayde :)

[Egyptian]

just leave, hayde :)

It's Yala and it's an Egyptian word means let's go.. well it's good to know the last Egyptian invasion of South Turkey left it's legacy.

[itilvolga]

With Wahhabi funding and Arab propaganda in Turkey, over last 15 years firstnames typical of Hejaz Arabs, which were unseen until now, started to appear in Turkey for newborns. Like Aleyna, Enes, Yaser, Ejrin etc. There is systematic Arabization attempt of the society.

I asked many Arabs about Aleyna, they don’t get its meaning at first. That’s also my first name (i have 2 names in my ID) and i totally hate it, not only because of it’s origin, you know there is a teenager who thinks that she is a megastar :picard1: sometimes i wanna use my second name but it’s unisex (mostly used by males) and sounds weird when a 18 years old girl uses it... im most likely going to change my name in a few months, you are totally right about names. They sound people nice and then, they wanna give them to their children before searching, my parents did same shit.

[rein]

I asked many Arabs about Aleyna, they don’t get its meaning at first. That’s also my first name (i have 2 names in my ID) and i totally hate it, not only because of it’s origin, you know there is a teenager who thinks that she is a megastar :picard1: sometimes i wanna use my second name but it’s unisex (mostly used by males) and sounds weird when a 18 years old girl uses it... im most likely going to change my name in a few months, you are totally right about names. They sound people nice and then, they wanna give them to their children before searching, my parents did same shit.

What are you gonna change it to?

[Marmara]

I asked many Arabs about Aleyna, they don’t get its meaning at first. That’s also my first name (i have 2 names in my ID) and i totally hate it, not only because of it’s origin, you know there is a teenager who thinks that she is a megastar :picard1: sometimes i wanna use my second name but it’s unisex (mostly used by males) and sounds weird when a 18 years old girl uses it... im most likely going to change my name in a few months, you are totally right about names. They sound people nice and then, they wanna give them to their children before searching, my parents did same shit.

Görkem? I had a female classmate with the name Görkem in elementary school, because of her I always associated the name with females but I found out it's unisex and even more common among males when I met with a male Görkem.

[itilvolga]

It's Yala and it's an Egyptian word means let's go.. well it's good to know the last Egyptian invasion of South Turkey left it's legacy.

Nope, we don’t use it daily, even generally. Some Kurds and Arabs (mostly Syrian refugees) use it here that’s why we also use against them, did you get what i mean? :eyes

[itilvolga]

What are you gonna change it to?

idk, but i would like to have fully Turkic name. My surname is Turkic as well

[Egyptian]

Nope, we don’t use it daily, even generally. Some Kurds and Arabs (mostly Syrian refugees) use it here that’s why we also use against them, did you get what i mean? :eyes

That's impressive, glad to know even Kurds use Egyptian words inside Turkey.

Nice photo by the way :lol:

[itilvolga]

Görkem? I had a female classmate with the name Görkem in elementary school, because of her I always associated the name with females but I found out it's unisex and even more common among males when I met with a male Görkem.

Nope, i wish it was Görkem xD

[itilvolga]

That's impressive, glad to know even Kurds use Egyptian words inside Turkey.

Nice photo by the way :lol:

duuuuuh
thanks :lol:

[Marmara]

Nope, i wish it was Görkem xD

Okay, it was a wild guess :p

[itilvolga]

Okay, it was a wild guess :p

İkinci adım aslında annemin kızlık soyadı, ayrıca genel olarak erkeklerin kullandığı unisex adlardan biri. Benim annem feministvari bi kadın olduğu için tutturmuş kızım benim de soyadımı taşısın diye, e tabii iki soyad olmuyor diye ikinci ad olarak yazdırmışlar. Ömrüm boyunca onun ceremesini çektim sınıfta iki Aleyna olurdu beni ikinci adımla çağırırlardı çıldırırdım xD

[Marmara]

İkinci adım aslında annemin kızlık soyadı, ayrıca genel olarak erkeklerin kullandığı unisex adlardan biri. Benim annem feministvari bi kadın olduğu için tutturmuş kızım benim de soyadımı taşısın diye, e tabii iki soyad olmuyor diye ikinci ad olarak yazdırmışlar. Ömrüm boyunca onun ceremesini çektim sınıfta iki Aleyna olurdu beni ikinci adımla çağırırlardı çıldırırdım xD

Yaşar mı? :D

[itilvolga]

Yaşar mı? :D

Söylemem :lol:

[Marmara]

Söylemem :lol:

Tamam söyleme :D

[Luca]

Benim annem feministvari bi kadın

Sen hıç zaman bana söyledin. Neden?:confused:

[brennus dux gallorum]

Egyptian is right. Tayip tried to be leader of the Arab world, but rich Gulf Arabs rejected his leadership xD Remember tensions last year.
He will maybe try to do like Selim I by bringing Arab scholars to Turkey and giving control of Turkey to Arabs for the Arabization. Maybe then he could have a chance. Egypt is still the strongest of Arab countries though Saudis are spreading Wahhabism very quickly there.

What more in your opinion can make turkey "arabized" than just changing its language? I mean, OK it has a turkic language and maybe share a 1/10 of other things that Arabs do not share, but to be honest I can't really make the difference about the rest 9/10 of Turkish things from next-door Syrians or Iraqis (maybe excluding skin color)

But that's maybe because I am a foreigner and oriental things tend to look all the same to me, you may know better to distinguish "turan" heritage from Arabic one and say the difference between Turkish and nearby levantine elements

[Marmara]

What more in your opinion can make turkey "arabized" than just changing its language? I mean, OK it has a turkic language and maybe share a 1/10 of other things that Arabs do not share, but to be honest I can't really make the difference about the rest 9/10 of Turkish things from next-door Syrians or Iraqis (maybe excluding skin color)

But that's maybe because I am a foreigner and oriental things tend to look all the same to me, you may know better to distinguish "turan" heritage from Arabic one and say the difference between Turkish and nearby levantine elements

Don't be funny, Greeks are oriental too.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Greek people suffer much from Muslims!


You can be Greek and believe in Buddhas,Zeus,Odin you can be also atheist.But Muslim never!

As for you, if you are really Pontian you become muslim by violence and not by choise.

Do you recognize our geonocide or not?
How about being greek and catholic?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Don't be funny, Greeks are oriental too.

I would have no problem to be oriental, but to be honest neither I see anything Turkish or other oriental things as familiar, nor I am seen as such by the others, so could you elaborate from what aspect we are oriental? Cause when we think "oriental", we think of anything east of Greece

Not to mention that the thread is about turks, not anyone else

[brennus dux gallorum]

How about being greek and catholic?

There are both Catholic and evangelical Greek communities

[Livin]

How about being greek and catholic?

By far better from being Muslim.

I know some Catholics and some Protestand Greeks.

[gıulıoımpa]

50 percent fault of some of their members

other 50 percent fault of jewish owned media

[Livin]

Don't be funny, Greeks are oriental too.

There are no orientalids in Greece.

Very rare phenotype.


Armenoids yes!!!

[Marmara]

There are no orientalids in Greece.

Very rare phenotype.


Armenoids yes!!!

I mean oriental culture.

[Livin]

I mean oriental culture.

What you mean with this?

Greece has Balkan culture not Middle East lol.


We are not Europeans but we are not Iranians....

[frankhammer]

Islam is cancer, nothing less.

[brennus dux gallorum]

What you mean with this?

Greece has Balkan culture not Middle East lol.


We are not Europeans but we are not Iranians....

Greece has Mediterranean European culture with Balkan in specific parts, not as a whole Balkan, and certainly no oriental

[brennus dux gallorum]

I mean oriental culture.

We don't have oriental culture

[brennus dux gallorum]

Kivan is obsessed with thumbing down people, rather than writing arguments as it seems

Lol not a true alpha male I guess

[Marmara]

We don't have oriental culture

Depends on where you draw the line. Orient doesn't mean Muslim or Middle-Eastern, it's simply Eastern or Non-western. Japanese culture is also oriental, just like Greek.

But apart from Greek culture being Oriental, it's also closer to Levant and Armenia.

[Livin]

We don't have oriental culture

Our culture is the best!I don’t want Greece to become Sweden or Netherlands.

But ofc we need to fix some things and be more Europeans!

Education.jobs,progress,human development,standard of living etc.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Depends on where you draw the line. Orient doesn't mean Muslim or Middle-Eastern, it's simply Eastern or Non-western. Japanese culture is also oriental, just like Greek.

But apart from Greek culture being Oriental, it's also closer to Levant and Armenia.

Are you retarded or simply can't read what people are writing?

Greek culture is not oriental, neither related to the Levant or Armenia

It's rather close to South Europe or Balkan, depending on which region we are talking about

[Marmara]

Are you retarded or simply can't read what people are writing?
Greek culture is not oriental, neither related to the Levant or Armenia, it's rather close to South Europe or Balkan, depending on which region we are talking about

Balkan culture is also oriental.

South Italy has Greek culture, so it's also Oriental.

[Livin]

Balkan culture is also oriental.

South Italy has Greek culture, so it's also Oriental.

Orientalist culture is your creation and it has probably to do with Islam.


Greece has nothing to do with Armenia or levant.

Greece is medditeranean like Spain,Italy and Balkan countries.

Greece even in the current economic situation has a better standard of living,human development from any Middle East,Caucasian or Balkan country.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Balkan culture is also oriental.

South Italy has Greek culture, so it's also Oriental.

:picard2:

Balkan is a minor culture in Greece, and it's not oriental, it's eastern European

Major culture in Greece is south European/Mediterranean, which includes everything from South Greece and the islands, to southern-half of Italy, Sardinia and most of Iberia, which is also not oriental

[Marmara]

:picard2:

Balkan is a minor culture in Greece, and it's not oriental, it's eastern European

Major culture in Greece is south European/Mediterranean, which includes everything from South Greece and the islands, to southern-half of Italy, Sardinia and most of Iberia, which is also not oriental

Mediterranean culture is similar in all of its coasts. If you have visited some Levantine or North African countries you would find many similarities that you would deny with passion.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Mediterranean culture is similar in all of its coasts. If you have visited some Levantine or North African countries you would find many similarities that you would deny with passion.

I have visited the geographically even closer bodrum, it looked nothing like normal old Greek town (see monemvasia, nafplion, dimitsana , nafpaktos corfu etc) or any south Italian city or village
Only Andalucia has some major similarities with these Mena places

[Livin]

Mediterranean culture is similar in all of its coasts. If you have visited some Levantine or North African countries you would find many similarities that you would deny with passion.

I don’t think in North Africa or levant that you can get sucked by a girl or get drunk....

Only in Israel maybe and I think alcohol is hard to found..

[Marmara]

I have visited the geographically even closer bodrum, it looked nothing like normal old Greek town (see monemvasia, nafplion, dimitsana etc) or any south Italian city or village

Bodrum is spoiled by tourism don't take there as reference, most people there aren't even locals but seasonal immigrants from Eastern Turkey.

Anyway, i see many resemblance between Greek culture and MENA culture.

[Marmara]

I don’t think in North Africa or levant that you can get sucked by a girl or get drunk....

Only in Israel maybe and I think alcohol is hard to found..

In North Africa you can find alcohol.

You wouldn't get sucked though, at least not by locals, which is a good thing for them.

[Livin]

Bodrum is spoiled by tourism don't take there as reference, most people there aren't even locals but seasonal immigrants from Eastern Turkey.

Anyway, i see many resemblance between Greek culture and MENA culture.

You are wrong!

[Livin]

In North Africa you can find alcohol.

I can give a blowjob to a girl?

And what you mean alcohol?

For tourists?yes ofc you can find.I don’t think Egyptians drinking or doing drugs....

[Marmara]

I can give a blowjob to a girl?

And what you mean alcohol?

For tourists?yes ofc you can find.I don’t think Egyptians drinking or doing drugs....

Are these part of authentic Greek culture?

Sorry then, i misjudged.

Egypt isn't entirely Mediterranean.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Bodrum is spoiled by tourism don't take there as reference, most people there aren't even locals but seasonal immigrants from Eastern Turkey.

Anyway, i see many resemblance between Greek culture and MENA culture.

You may see dead people as well, this doesn't mean the resemblance you are talking about exists

Greek culture is mostly south European, with Balkan parts

Come on, don't feel jealous, the fact that we are Christian, Europeans with higher standards of life, education, gdp per capita etc doesn't mean that we are better than you, we just don't belong to the third world like you do :D

[Marmara]

You may see dead people as well, this doesn't mean the resemblance you are talking about exists

Greek culture is mostly south European, with Balkan parts

Come on, don't feel jealous, the fact that we are Christian, Europeans with higher standards of life, education, gdp per capita etc doesn't mean that we are better than you, we just don't belong to the third world like you do :D

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/01/patients-dying-greece-public-health-meltdown

[Livin]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/01/patients-dying-greece-public-health-meltdown

You have never been in Greede I bet,and I have been in your country at least 5 times.


Greece has nothing to do with Anatolia,levant,Armenia or North Africa.


Greece is mix between Balkan and Southern Europe!

[brennus dux gallorum]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/01/patients-dying-greece-public-health-meltdown

Your post is outdated, we are exiting the program In summer 2018, but even back then we had a better quality of life, because you know, whatever happens to Europe, it remains Europe, and orient remains orient :D

[brennus dux gallorum]

You have never been in Greede I bet,and I have been in your country at least 5 times.


Greece has nothing to do with Anatolia,levant,Armenia or North Africa.


Greece is mix between Balkan and Southern Europe!

We don't negotiate with bellydancians, we just remove kebab before destroy our culture (and economy through welfare :D)

[brennus dux gallorum]

Joking aside, in spite of marmara posts retardness, I don't dislike Muslims of Arabic origins, quite the opposite, I like most of them, probably all of them except for North Africans

[Marmara]

Your post is outdated, we are exiting the program In summer 2018, but even back then we had a better quality of life, because you know, whatever happens to Europe, it remains Europe, and orient remains orient :D

You mean now you can take your money back from banks? That's good news.

Now maybe you can start buying back your docks and airports from Germany.

[Kivan]

Joking aside, in spite of marmara posts retardness, I don't dislike Muslims of Arabic origins, quite the opposite, I like most of them

Comparing us to Arabs is ridiculous and senseless to me, but at same time, sadly and unfortunatelly, you are right. We are third-worlders where a good portion of the population has backward/Mena-ish mentality and behavior. The simple fact of Erdoğan having been reelect just proves it.

[Rædwald]

Islamic ideology is not compatible with Western Civilization. This should be self-evident for anyone looking at the current economic, social, and political state of majority Islamic countries.

There are however exceptions to that rule, however, those Nations don't have the same level of individual freedom as comparable western societies.

[happycow]

Because Islam is an evil religion. Islamic followers practice Idolatry in the way they worship Muhammed. To this day I will never be able to wrap my head around the fact that non arab muslims exist. European muslims? ROFL

Islam allows its men to act like complete scumbags and anytime you call out that shitty behavior its attributed to culture, not the religion. If thats the case, then why hasn't the religion done anything to quash shitty "cultural" aspects that are widespread throughout the middle east? The funniest defense of Islam I've heard was "Did you know the arabian pagans buried their newborn daughters alive before Islam came around??" Are the muslims today any better than the Arabian pagans of the past? Uh No. lol

Islam should be left for the Arabs of the arabian peninsula and gulf.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Comparing us to Arabs is ridiculous and senseless to me, but at same time, sadly and unfortunatelly, you are right. We are third-worlders where a good portion of the population has backward/Mena-ish mentality and behavior. The simple fact of Erdoğan having been reelect just proves it.

Posting something is much better than thumbing down people :)

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with being an Arab, all Arabs I have met either in the net or irl have nothing in common with what TV shows

Anyway, do you imply that Turkish society is not homogenous? And if yes, could you say more about its "components"?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Also, let me clarify, I didn't say that turks and Arabs are the same (even though in my opinion turks should wish to be),

I said they look pretty similar from my European perspective

[Tauromachos]

Posting something is much better than thumbing down people :)

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with being an Arab, all Arabs I have met either in the net or irl have nothing in common with what TV shows



But he is right Turks are realy different from Arabs in many or all regards.

Only some parts of Turkey/Anatolia have Arab influence

[brennus dux gallorum]

But he is right Turks are realy different from Arabs in many or all regards.

Only some parts of Turkey/Anatolia have Arab influence

I would prefer to read something relevant and get enlightened by a Turkish himself (if not kivan in particular) :)

As I said I live in a society that hardly distinguishes each culture in close Asia, if Turks think the way you think I am waiting from them to elaborate

[Kivan]

Posting something is much better than thumbing down people :)

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with being an Arab, all Arabs I have met either in the net or irl have nothing in common with what TV shows

Anyway, do you imply that Turkish society is not homogenous? And if yes, could you say more about its "components"?
How not? Arabization of Turkey is one of the major problems of the country to me. All the issues that were described in the later posts is directly or indirectly related to it. As i said before, Turkey needs more Arabo-Iranian influence in the same way a healthy body needs cancer. And yes, obviously it is not homogeneous, there are those who are secular and "westernized" and those more conservative/religious/backward(these who unfortunatelly represent mostly of diaspora in Europe).


Also, let me clarify, I didn't say that turks and Arabs are the same (even though in my opinion turks should wish to be),

I said they look pretty similar from my European perspective
In your "European perspective" maybe, but in the reallity, not even close. As a group they are completely aliens to me in every aspect. Take a look in our "muslim brothers" culture:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cn0jH31Mno&t=82s

[Tauromachos]

What you mean with this?

Greece has Balkan culture not Middle East lol.


We are not Europeans but we are not Iranians....

Neither Balkan nor Oriental

Greeces orginal culture is Hellenic and Byzantine and it influenced both Balkans and Orient to some extent.
Some influences from the Orient entered Greece during the Byzantine times.

Don't forget that alot of Oriental countries have been Orthodox Christian then

And also most similarities between Greece and the other Balkan countries come from the Byzantine Era

[brennus dux gallorum]

Neither Balkan nor Oriental

Greeces orginal culture is Hellenic and Byzantine and it influenced both Balkans and Orient to some extent.
Some influences from the Orient entered Greece during the Byzantine times.

Don't forget that alot of Oriental countries have been Orthodox Christian then

And also most similarities between Greece and the other Balkan countries come from the Byzantine Era

Byzantine is a quite old term, and even though Greece is certainly byzantine influenced and originated, it's not "the byzantine culture" itself.

From my experience and what I have read, Greek major culture is euro-Mediterranean (like south Italy etc) , and minor Balkan (like Bulgaria etc) depending on region. Both cases have byzantine heritage

Also, Greece affected other people, but got affected as well. I can show many Latin or Slavic aspects of our culture with no native roots

[brennus dux gallorum]

How not? Arabization of Turkey is one of the major problems of the country to me. All the issues that were described in the later posts is directly or indirectly related to it. As i said before, Turkey needs more Arabo-Iranian influence in the same way a healthy body needs cancer. And yes, obviously it is not homogeneous, there are those who are secular and "westernized" and those more conservative/religious/backward(these who unfortunatelly represent mostly of diaspora in Europe).


In your "European perspective" maybe, but in the reallity, not even close. As a group they are completely aliens to me in every aspect. Take a look in our "muslim brothers" culture:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cn0jH31Mno&t=82s

I see what you are talking about, but this is a stereotype of what all Arabs are like. Countries like Lebanon (and Syria until very recently) are very civilized and secular

I can stay the same for Palestinians, they are very friendly and civilized

[Tauromachos]

Byzantine is a quite old term, and even though Greece is certainly byzantine influenced, it's not "the byzantine culture" itself


Byzantine comes from Greek/Roman culture mixed with Eastern Christian

Greeces have inherited alot of things from Byzantine

Its part of our history and if you don't like it i don't care

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

If everyone followed the 'golden rule' (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you) everyone would be so chill.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Byzantine comes from Greek/Roman culture mixed with Eastern Christian

Greeces have inherited alot of things from Byzantine

Its part of our history and if you don't like it i don't care

Are you here to make dialogues or to talk to others like a 15 years old complexed insecure homosexual?

Of course it's part of our history and of course I like it, but it's not the only source of our culture and identity, neither me nor you are citizens of Byzantium. We are modern Greeks, with no reason to stuck in the past

[Tauromachos]

Are you here to make dialogues or to talk to others like a 15 years old complexed insecure homosexual?

Is this what you are ?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Is this what you are ?

Judging by the way you talk, it's more likely that's what you are

Mature men don't use phrases such as "I don't care" when discussing seriously with someone, even when they disagree, that's the way only a complexed part of homosexuals discuss

[Profileid]

https://i.imgur.com/nAodnac.png

[Tauromachos]

Judging by the way you talk, it's more likely that's what you are


You know what mature men do or don't do?

Do you think your complex with anything Byzantine in Greece is mature?

Do you think simply saying all people in Asia are the same e.c.t is very mature and intelligent?

[brennus dux gallorum]

https://i.imgur.com/nAodnac.png

Third one is quite violent, the rest seem OK, even if unfamiliar for an average European or white American

[brennus dux gallorum]

You know what mature men do or don't do?

Do you think your complex with anything Byzantine in Greece is mature?

Do you think simply saying all people in Asia are the same e.c.t is very mature and intelligent?

That's your own perception and if it was true, it would be my opinion, having nothing to do with maturity/immaturity

The way you talk on the other hand, shows pretty many insecurities and immaturity. You should solve your complexes and start talking like a normal mature man

And talking about Asia, you are from a place which often is even located in Asia so you may know Asian people better, I on contrary do not,.and don't have reason

[Tauromachos]

The way you talk on the other hand, shows pretty many insecurities and immaturity

Thats your own perception^

People who always refer to the insecurities of others show alot of insecurity and immaturity

[brennus dux gallorum]

Thats your own perception^

People who always refer to the insecurities of others show alot of insecurity and immaturity

It's not my perception, but common sense that talking the way you do shows pretty many insecurities and immaturity, if not childhood traumas, (and many Greeks have mentioned the insecure and pretty homo way you talk) and you don't need to be a psychologist, like I am, to understand it

[Tauromachos]

It's not my perception, but common sense that talking the way you do shows pretty many insecurities and immaturity, if not childhood traumas, (and many Greeks have mentioned the insecure and pretty homo way you talk) and you don't need to be a psychologist, like I am, to understand it

I'm very sure that your age is less than 20

You talk and argue exactly like a teenager

[brennus dux gallorum]

I'm very sure that your age is less than 20

You talk and argue exactly like a teenager

If we ask 10 random people in the street, they will tell you that "I don't care" in a serious discussion is not used by individuals older than 15, except for some homos

On contrary i see nothing wrong with my post

[Tauromachos]

If we ask 10 random people in the street, they will tell you that "I don't care" in a serious discussion is not used by individuals older than 15, except for some homos

On contrary i see nothing wrong with my post

I'm not a homo

But if you need a Dick in your ass you can get one

[rein]

https://i.imgur.com/nAodnac.png

WTH is happening in the 3rd photo, lol?

[brennus dux gallorum]

I'm not a homo

But if you need a Dick in your ass you can get one
are you able to understand that you just admitted being a homo (which explains many things which Greek users used to say about you)? :lmao

no thanks I am not interested in young homos, I prefer women btw

[Tauromachos]

are you able to understand that you just admitted being a homo (which explains many things which Greek users used to say about you)? :lmao

no thanks I am not interested in young homos, I prefer women btw

Go fuck of you Troll

All you do is trolling and provoking and making retarded comments about things you have no idea

Your psychic games you can play with your teenage troll friends in high school

[rein]

what is greek love?


https://img.culturacolectiva.com/featured_image/2017/09/19b62261-15b8-41bc-9f75-59e145f9592e.jpg



The Sotadic Zone: Cultural paedophilia map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Sotadic_Zone.PNG

This map explains a lot.

[Böri]

How not? Arabization of Turkey is one of the major problems of the country to me. All the issues that were described in the later posts is directly or indirectly related to it. As i said before, Turkey needs more Arabo-Iranian influence in the same way a healthy body needs cancer. And yes, obviously it is not homogeneous, there are those who are secular and "westernized" and those more conservative/religious/backward(these who unfortunatelly represent mostly of diaspora in Europe).


In your "European perspective" maybe, but in the reallity, not even close. As a group they are completely aliens to me in every aspect. Take a look in our "muslim brothers" culture:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cn0jH31Mno&t=82s

Saudis recently allowed women to hold driving license and drive cars.
That's already a great step forward for Saudis.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Go fuck of you Troll

All you do is trolling and provoking and making retarded comments about things you have no idea

Your psychic games you can play with your teenage troll friends in high school

shut up homo, your ideas worth less than a sandwich with pork shoulder, no wonder why most of Greeks here consider you an idiot and only user Hellenas admires you , you always talk like a hysterical girl on her period, and I doubt if you have anything to do with Greece, cause you seem to lack even the basic knowledge about it

[Böri]

Saudi Wahhabi regime would be gone 1000 times if the West and Israel were bothered by them. They aren't. First of all, as Arab ultranationalist these Saudi Arabs recognize the Choseness status of Jews whom they view as long lost cousins. Second of all, their version of Islam is the perfect Islam: backward, desert-centric, skirt-wearing, anti-woman, violent, anti-reason, anti-science xD
So, why would Christians and Jews be bothered by these Erabs? They are just perfect. They give the perfect image of Islam :) The image of Islam displayed by these desert Erabs is the style which is the least dangerous for Christians and Jews since they easily can demonize it.
Also, they accept to share their oil incomes with US. Who can be better than them for Americans?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Saudi Wahhabi regime would be gone 1000 times if the West and Israel were bothered by them. They aren't. First of all, as Arab ultranationalist these Saudi Arabs recognize the Choseness status of Jews whom they view as long lost cousins. Second of all, their version of Islam is the perfect Islam: backward, desert-centric, skirt-wearing, anti-woman, violent, anti-reason, anti-science xD
So, why would Christians and Jews be bothered by these Erabs? They are just perfect. They give the perfect image of Islam :) Also, they accept to share their oil incomes with US. Who can be better than them for Americans?

do you imply that you would prefer a strong, unified anti-Euro/American Islamic world?

[Böri]

do you imply that you would prefer a strong, unified anti-Euro/American Islamic world?

Not necessarily. I am positive with western people. I am just explaining why Saudi Wahhabi regime still exists.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Not necessarily. I am positive with western people. I am just explaining why Saudi Wahhabi regime still exists.

Really? All you do is complaining for the fact that "erabs" (as u call them) do America's favor.

You say you are positive with the West, then your friend's (west's)friends (Arabs) should be your friends(Arabs) too, or I am wrong?

[Böri]

Really? All you do is complaining for the fact that "erabs" (as u call them) do America's favor.

You say you are positive with the West, then your friend's (west's)friends (Arabs) should be your friends(Arabs) too, or I am wrong?

Orthodox Erab,
Why do you write like you were a White Anglo-Saxon from Pittsburg or so? You are just another Greek baptised, through being almost drowned while being a baby, by another bearded, black-wearing Greek priest. Is that for you Orthodox to care so much for the West you wannabe scum?

[Tauromachos]

shut up homo, your ideas worth less than a sandwich with pork shoulder, no wonder why most of Greeks here consider you an idiot and only user Hellenas admires you , you always talk like a hysterical girl on her period, and I doubt if you have anything to do with Greece, cause you seem to lack even the basic knowledge about it

Exactly this is how hysterical girls on their period sound like^


I doubt if you have anything to do with Greece, cause you seem to lack even the basic knowledge about it


No you lack basic knowledge about Greece
In particular about the Byzantine history.

All you seem to know about Medieval Greece is the stories of Slav and Frank invasions

No go and suck some Franko/Venetian cock

Your knowledge and understanding of Greece is like that of typical Greek teenage boy grown up in

the US

[brennus dux gallorum]

Orthodox Erab,
Why do you write like you were a White Anglo-Saxon from Pittsburg or so? You are just another Greek baptised, through being almost drowned while being a baby, by another bearded, black-wearing Greek priest. Is that for you Orthodox to care so much for the West you wannabe scum?

Lol I am not pretending to be a white Anglo-Saxon (I am a white Greek myself), but I was asking seriously, I didn't expect an insecurity explosion related to white superiority over turks from your side :D

Exactly this is how hysterical girls on their period sound like^




No you lack basic knowledge about Greece
In particular about the Byzantine history.

All you seem to know about Medieval Greece is the stories of Slav and Frank invasions

No go and suck some Franko/Venetian cock

Your knowledge and understanding of Greece is like that of typical Greek teenage boy grown up in

the US

* Kingdom of Romans, stop using names that Germans used in 16th century for the first time

You are not even from Greece, therefore what's your problem girl?

Finally we agree, that you sound like hysterical girl

[Tauromachos]

Finally we agree, that you sound like hysterical girl

:picard2:

[Böri]

Lol I am not pretending to be a white Anglo-Saxon (I am a white Greek myself), but I was asking seriously, I didn't expect an insecurity explosion related to white superiority over turks from your side :D



https://preview.ibb.co/nKq8Py/greek.png

https://preview.ibb.co/jdhcHJ/BMmgoD.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

https://preview.ibb.co/nKq8Py/greek.png

https://preview.ibb.co/jdhcHJ/BMmgoD.jpg

Posting more near eastern retarded things won't make me less white dude :D relative of me have scored 100% euro so I don't need you to teach me what I am (for your information European neolithic are sards, and even Norway scores more than 30%)

Are you here to discuss seriously and express your opinion with confidence or you are going to discuss like the gay who emigrated to London above (and pretends to be Greek) but with pics?

Cause in the second case I have no time to waste

[Böri]

Posting more near eastern retarded things won't make me less white dude :D relative of me have scored 100% euro so I don't need you to teach me what I am (for your information European neolithic are sards, and even Norway scores more than 30%)

Are you here to discuss seriously and express your opinion with confidence or you are going to discuss like the gay who emigrated to London above (and pretends to be Greek) but with pics?

Cause in the second case I have no time to waste

Post your autosomal results, by stating what sort of Greek you are.

[Profileid]

WTH is happening in the 3rd photo, lol?

ashura

[Asheffar]

Im actually an agnostic,the Qur'an clearly mentions that my lack of belief should warrant my death by either stoning or chopping my head like we do to a slaughtered animal

[Joso]

Why you think they enjoy it? Muslims probably get a lot upset looking at these images

[brennus dux gallorum]

Post your autosomal results, by stating what sort of Greek you are.

I will, when I do the test

And the only sure is that my results will not be much different from this :
http://i.imgur.com/5jbkEdu.png
The way yours do
Lol all superior Europeans are grouped together, the way all people from Mena and caucasus do :D

[Watson]

Orthodox Erab,
Why do you write like you were a White Anglo-Saxon from Pittsburg or so? You are just another Greek baptised, through being almost drowned while being a baby, by another bearded, black-wearing Greek priest. Is that for you Orthodox to care so much for the West you wannabe scum?

why do you write like you are volga tatar when irl you are another mongoloid influenced middle eastern arab?

[Zroota]

Because they have a menacing and pernicious belief system. These extremist images are showcasing Islam, not Muslims as normal people. There are moderate Muslims out there who don't take their belief system seriously. Those that do, usually act out those instances in those pictures. And that shouldn't be ignored. These people are indeed dangerous. Ignoring radical Muslims will just make things worse.

[Böri]

Why you think they enjoy it? Muslims probably get a lot upset looking at these images

Arabs seem to enjoy it, that's why. When people see some things are wrong, they usually try to change or improve. The Arabs seem to turn more conservative when smth goes bad.

[Egyptian]

I will, when I do the test

And the only sure is that my results will not be much different from this :
http://i.imgur.com/5jbkEdu.png
The way yours do
Lol all superior Europeans are grouped together, the way all people from Mena and caucasus do :D

we wait ur test.

[Joso]

https://preview.ibb.co/nKq8Py/greek.png

https://preview.ibb.co/jdhcHJ/BMmgoD.jpg

Horner Africans are not related to SSA, they have different ancestors. So Horner Africans can not be considerated as "negroid", they are another race. Maybe a lot of them are mixed with SSA nowadays, but originally they were not blacks.

[brennus dux gallorum]

we wait ur test.

No problem "tanned" dude :cool:

[Egyptian]

No problem "tanned" dude :cool:

It's just an olive oil affect.

[brennus dux gallorum]

It's just an north African olive oil affect.

Fixed

[Egyptian]

Fixed

post ur pic and let's see how u look, mr.olive.

[Özgür Adam]

Because UK and USA want to impose their values debauchery, pseudo freedom and pseudo democracy in a patriarchal-monarchy Muslim world.

When people are individualistic without a single ideology. Then they are easier manipulate like european people which are colony UK

https://thenorwichradical.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/maxresdefault.jpg

[Smeagol]

They've certainly done their best to earn it.

[Kraftwerk]

Because UK and USA want to impose their values debauchery, pseudo freedom and pseudo democracy in a patriarchal-monarchy Muslim world.

When people are individualistic without a single ideology. Then they are easier manipulate like european people which are colony UK

https://thenorwichradical.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/maxresdefault.jpg

UK is not English owned since Waterloo, USA is Fed. Islam is based and a barrier against Zionists. They use Muslims as cannon fodder these days in left wings of west, but when Islam directly opposes Zionism, they will attack Islam too.

[Özgür Adam]

UK is not English owned since Waterloo, USA is Fed. Islam is based and a barrier against Zionists. They use Muslims as cannon fodder these days in left wings of west, but when Islam directly opposes Zionism, they will attack Islam too.

Well, world power does not belong to the Zionists but to the Royal family of Britain with the Windsor clan.

And they sponsored the first and second world war to weaken their colonies


https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/12/04/11/sandringham-christmas.jpg?w968

[Kraftwerk]

Well, world power does not belong to the Zionists but to the Royal family of Britain with the Windsor clan.

And they sponsored the first and second world war to weaken their colonies


https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/12/04/11/sandringham-christmas.jpg?w968

Lol Rothschilds own their ass.

[Özgür Adam]

Lol Rothschilds own their ass.

Rothschilds, Rockefellers and others monopolist these are the servant boys for Windsor family because the royal family is not only finacial monopolists but they have politic power in other countries and world what other Clans don't have it this instrument

[Petros Houhoulis]

Because UK and USA want to impose their values debauchery, pseudo freedom and pseudo democracy in a patriarchal-monarchy Muslim world.

When people are individualistic without a single ideology. Then they are easier manipulate like european people which are colony UK

https://thenorwichradical.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/maxresdefault.jpg

Canines, who have tolerated the same man who is screwing them for almost two decades now, and went as far as making a coup on himself to stay in power, suggest that Europeans are "easy to manipulate".

What was your IQ again???

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/92/32/da9232ca14a5c6fc4d61093fd62f764b.jpg

[Petros Houhoulis]

Well, world power does not belong to the Zionists but to the Royal family of Britain with the Windsor clan.

And they sponsored the first and second world war to weaken their colonies


https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/12/04/11/sandringham-christmas.jpg?w968

Yeah, the United States was very weakened after WWII... Wasn't it???

[Özgür Adam]

Canines, who have tolerated the same man who is screwing them for almost two decades now, and went as far as making a coup on himself to stay in power, suggest that Europeans are "easy to manipulate".

What was your IQ again???

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/92/32/da9232ca14a5c6fc4d61093fd62f764b.jpg

IQ test was invented by psychologists to select mediocre obedient citizens, but not for people who know how to invent and thinking independently.

When these IQ tests were popular in the USA, the majority of talented children did not receive education and went to work as ordinary workers. Because of this, the USA were to buy mathematicians from Eastern Europe and other country where these IQ test were not

[Turxanthus]

USA are de facto a British dependency. When US presidents are next to British royals, they often wear valet garments.

See Trump, valet of the Queen LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEWMaWqLQrY

The US are technically just another Canada, Australia or New Zealand.

[Özgür Adam]

Yeah, the United States was very weakened after WWII... Wasn't it???

US are closest allies of the British royal family and as a colony they carried out orders in war

[Petros Houhoulis]

IQ test was invented by psychologists to select mediocre obedient citizens, but not for people who know how to invent and thinking independently.

...And canines like you are famous for their "inventions" and "independent thinking" eh? You are Sandniggers and Camel Urine drinkers...


When these IQ tests were popular in the USA, the majority of talented children did not receive education and went to work as ordinary workers.

Ya know, those IQ tests are still popular and administered to all army recruits in the U.S. of A.


Because of this, the USA were to buy mathematicians from Eastern Europe and other country where these IQ test were not

They don't need mathematicians so much, they use computers these days...

[Petros Houhoulis]

US are closest allies of the British royal family and as a colony they carried out orders in war

...And which colonies were weakened? Australia or Canada???

[Özgür Adam]

...And which colonies were weakened? Australia or Canada???

They are not strong and do not carry any threat

[Petros Houhoulis]

They are not strong and do not carry any threat

They are stronger than Turkey, but they don't have to show it.

[Özgür Adam]

They are stronger than Turkey, but they don't have to show it.

Who is the Turkey in front of Britain with the bodyguard of the US? NOTHING

But if they destroy electricity energy on the planet, then everyone will become sovereign states with the monarchy and patriarchy

[Petros Houhoulis]

Who is the Turkey in front of Britain with the bodyguard of the US? NOTHING

But if they destroy electricity energy on the planet, then everyone will become sovereign states with the monarchy and patriarchy

You are nothing in front of Europe as well.

[Özgür Adam]

You are nothing in front of Europe as well.

I am love only my tribal family. Therefore, I for my family and tribe. I have no concept of nationalism and state government.
For me, close people are just my family and a couple of families of my tribe that are no more than 300-500 people.

All the rest people are strangers who disgust me

[Petros Houhoulis]

I am love only my tribal family. Therefore, I for my family and tribe. I have no concept of nationalism and state government.
For me, close people are just my family and a couple of families of my tribe that are no more than 300-500 people.

All the rest people are strangers who disgust me

Is that your family?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyNP3s5mxI8

[Marmara]

...And canines like you are famous for their "inventions" and "independent thinking" eh? You are Sandniggers and Camel Urine drinkers...Ya know, those IQ tests are still popular and administered to all army recruits in the U.S. of A.

They don't need mathematicians so much, they use computers these days...

He isn't Turkish, he is an Ukrainian gypsy, don't fall to his user name.

[Özgür Adam]

Is that your family?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyNP3s5mxI8


say it to the sheikhs, rich people and the royal family of Britain that this is not normal get married to cousins.
This video is made for slaves to they believe in this nonsense so as not to compete with strong Clans.

Indeed, mestizos are easier to manage than purebred aristocrats

[Özgür Adam]

Is that your family?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyNP3s5mxI8


say it to the sheikhs, rich people and the royal family of Britain that this is not normal get married to cousins.
This video is made for slaves to they believe in this nonsense so as not to compete with strong Clans.
Indeed, mestizos are easier to manage than purebred aristocrats!

[Peter Nirsch]

probably because muezzins calling for prayers can bother people who are resting.