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cyberlorian
07-05-2018, 09:48 AM
Please discuss.

cyberlorian
07-05-2018, 10:40 AM
:ranger

Maguzanci
07-09-2018, 05:52 PM
Please discuss.

Yes Native Americans do cluster very close to Altai Turkic people or slightly Eastern shifted than them in PCA charts. Both Native Americans and Turkic Altaians have very similar amounts of Western Eurasian admixture around 25% or a bit less.

Maguzanci
07-09-2018, 06:05 PM
:ranger

Also many Northern Amerindians such as those from Canada and maybe parts of Northern USA will be much more Eastern shifted than other Native Americans and Altaians due to having very significant recent Siberian admixture.

Also off topic, me have saw many Kyrgyz results that are only 25% Caucasoid or bit less (think the gedmatch kits are from eastern parts of Kyrgyzstan). I think those Kyrgyz would cluster much closer to Altaians and Native Americans on PCA charts. This is compared to the average Kyrgyz who are more around 30% Caucasoid.

Iloko
07-10-2018, 04:05 AM
Came here looking for PCA charts..

Bobby Martnen
07-10-2018, 06:15 AM
Please discuss.

Not sure, but what I am sure of is that they were barbaric and heathen savages who deserved everything they got and then some.

Maguzanci
07-10-2018, 12:20 PM
Please discuss.

Off topic again I have try to plot certain prédominantel'y Native Américain individuels with around 15 to 20 to 25% Euro admix (from Latin América) from Gedmatch on PCA charts and they cluster very close to Kazakhs, Tubalar Turkics and many Hazaras. On thé other hand, i notice that Amérindiens with 4 to 10% or even à bit more Euro admix can cluster very close to most Kyrgyzs and Khakass Turkics.

cyberlorian
07-10-2018, 12:21 PM
Off topic again I have try to plot certain prédominantel'y Native Américain individuels with around 15 to 20 to 25% Euro admix (from Latin América) from Gedmatch on PCA charts and they cluster very close to Kazakhs, Tubalar Turkics and many Hazaras. On thé other hand, i notice that Amérindiens with 4 to 10% or even à bit more Euro admix can cluster very close to most Kyrgyzs and Khakass Turkics.

Where does the West Eurasian component of them come from?

Maguzanci
07-10-2018, 12:27 PM
Where does the West Eurasian component of them come from?

You m'en for Native Américains ? Thé Western component of pure blood Amérindiens are from ANE/Ancient Nord Eurasienne. ANE were like an ancient intermédiaire population between Western Eurasienne and some indigenous ancestrale population to moderne South Asien. Also récent Western admixture from Ibériens and ôter Européennes from colonization.

cyberlorian
07-10-2018, 12:42 PM
You m'en for Native Américains ? Thé Western component of pure blood Amérindiens are from ANE/Ancient Nord Eurasienne. ANE were like an ancient intermédiaire population between Western Eurasienne and some indigenous ancestrale population to moderne South Asien. Also récent Western admixture from Ibériens and ôter Européennes from colonization.

Altai people are 57 percent East Eurasian and 43 percent West Eurasian. Their West Eurasian comes from Iranic and Slavic people as far as I know.

Maguzanci
07-10-2018, 04:18 PM
Altai people are 57 percent East Eurasian and 43 percent West Eurasian. Their West Eurasian comes from Iranic and Slavic people as far as I know.

Interesting. I thought it ouaïs Kazakh or Karakalpak peuplés that are more like 57% Est Eurasienne and 43% Ouest Eurasienne while ouille Altai peuplés are morë like 75% East Eurasienne andès 25% Ouest Eurasienne.

cyberlorian
07-10-2018, 04:20 PM
Interesting. I thought it ouaïs Kazakh or Karakalpak peuplés that are more like 57% Est Eurasienne and 43% Ouest Eurasienne while ouille Altai peuplés are morë like 75% East Eurasienne andès 25% Ouest Eurasienne.

Actually I have looked from there: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

Maguzanci
07-10-2018, 04:34 PM
Actually I have looked from there: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

Ah I see. Not sûre how accuerat the nationale géographique DNA are