Is there more Turkish input in the Levant or Semitic/Levantine input in Turkey?

[Haider]

As we know, Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian genetically, but on the other hand there's a lot of Anatolian input in the Levant, but it's hard to grasp how much of that is ancient or due to the Ottomans. So the question remains.

[Marmara]

Assyrians don't have Turkish admixture logically, neither do Druzes, so the Levantine-Anatolian connection is ancient.

[Sikeliot]

Anatolian input in the Levant.

[Teucer]

As we know, Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian genetically, but on the other hand there's a lot of Anatolian input in the Levant, but it's hard to grasp how much of that is ancient or due to the Ottomans. So the question remains.

Would probably be more clear if you said Anatolian rather than Turkish in the title.

Regardless, I think there is more Anatolian in the Levant now. Old Canaanite samples have way more Red Sea than modern Levantine populations

[Gangrel]

As we know, Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian genetically, but on the other hand there's a lot of Anatolian input in the Levant, but it's hard to grasp how much of that is ancient or due to the Ottomans. So the question remains.

Proof?

[StonyArabia]

Anatolian input in the Levant

[Kivan]

As we know, Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian genetically, but on the other hand there's a lot of Anatolian input in the Levant, but it's hard to grasp how much of that is ancient or due to the Ottomans. So the question remains.

Is that a joke? :D

[Haider]

Poll added. And the question is about recent input, not ancient.

[Marmara]

Eggyolk is right, Turks aren't modeled half Syrian but Half Cypriot or Lebanese, and that's for Central Anatolia.

A southeastern like me would plot close to Syrians though.

[Teucer]

Assyrians don't have Turkish admixture logically, neither do Druzes, so the Levantine-Anatolian connection is ancient.

It can't be ancient when Canaanites had more Red Sea and less West Asian than they do today

[Marmara]

Poll added. And the question is about recent input, not ancient.

Genetic link is ancient, if we're talking about recent input, many Turks settled in Levant.

[Marmara]

It can't be ancient when Canaanites had more Red Sea and less West Asian than they do today

Okay then maybe Turks and some Caucasians later changed genetics there.

[Haider]

Is that a joke? :D

No, check any Gedmatch calculator. Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian, half Nogay; half Lebanese half Turkmens etc

[Gangrel]

No, check any Gedmatch calculator. Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian, half Nogay; half Lebanese half Turkmens etc

It is usually half cypriot, sometimes half lebanese. I've never seen half syrian

[Kivan]

No, check any Gedmatch calculator. Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian, half Nogay; half Lebanese half Turkmens etc

Not really. Cherry picking results of some mixed Easterner doesn't count. And i have never seen Syrian, but Cypriot or Lebanese(as Marmara said). Here one sample of a Western Turk i found:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.74
2 South_Central_Asian 11.53
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.25
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.71
5 Tungus-Altaic 6.55
6 Near_East 5.53
7 East_Siberian 4.73
8 Arctic 3.48
9 Ancestral_Altaic 2.95
10 North_African 2.41
11 South_East_Asian 1.61
12 Melano_Polynesian 1.30
13 Australoid 1.01

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.885062
2 Turk_Balikesir @ 8.318324
3 Turk_Istanbul @ 8.869559
4 Turk @ 10.355407
5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12.021833
6 Azov_Greek @ 12.157321
7 Nogai @ 12.231788
8 Turk_Kayseri @ 13.440648
9 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.851104
10 Turk_Adana @ 13.981258
11 Cirkassian @ 14.427249
12 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 16.548096
13 Cretan @ 16.682146
14 Georgian_Jew @ 16.721102
15 Circassian @ 17.177387
16 Kumyk @ 17.458357
17 Greek_Macedonia @ 17.539604
18 Romanian_Jew @ 17.566490
19 Greek @ 17.602461
20 Kabardin @ 17.636078

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogai +50% Turk_Balikesir @ 4.635275


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Circassian +25% Sicilian_Agrigento +25% Tatar-Siberian @ 4.058968

[Sikeliot]

Would probably be more clear if you said Anatolian rather than Turkish in the title.

Regardless, I think there is more Anatolian in the Levant now. Old Canaanite samples have way more Red Sea than modern Levantine populations

Red Sea is Basal Eurasian, and it is high in Arabians, North Africans, and Horn Africans. It may be better to call it "Afroasiatic".

[Rgvgjhvv]

As we know, Turks are usually modelled as half Syrian genetically, but on the other hand there's a lot of Anatolian input in the Levant, but it's hard to grasp how much of that is ancient or due to the Ottomans. So the question remains.

This really bugs me about this stuff