Post your Y-DNA prediction

[Myanthropologies]

Post your y-DNA prediction from MorleyDNA.com: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal?d=2018-07-06T16:02:47.303Z and describe the distribution/origins of each haplogroup if you can

This is me:

- G2b1a (most likely). (Semitic/Jewish related)
- N1a (N-P189) (mostly found in old Europeans. Not much info available).
- J2a1i (appears to be semitic/Jewish).
- I1 (North European).
- I2a (North European).

[Kamal900]

Either J1e(Arabian), G2 or R1a(Jewish levite)

[Kaspias]

Q1a2a1 - Hunnic (Most likely)
R1b1a2a1a2b1~2 - Northern Europe.

[Norb]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77624&d=1530897323
this was before I paid YSEQ to find my subclade

[IncelSlayer]

Same as in my avatar, j2a1....->z8096 which is the roman ydna.

[Thambi]

L1a(most likely) (south/west india, southern pakistan)
N1a
J2a1i
J2a1~2~2??? not sure what the 2~2 is.
I1

[Bornoz]

Some sort of J2 ever since it comes from father but if it would come from mother, my expectation range would be a lot wider.

[Gründig]

It's the same as what 23andme gave me:

R1b-l2 - it's found heavily in southern Germany, Switzerland and tirol area of Austria (amongst other areas) Makes sense cause that's where my paternal side is from. Seems to be Celtic.

[rein]

Not different from 23andme.

[Impaler]

J2-J-M67. I guess it's a Caucasian haplogroup.

[CYKA]

R2a2a India

[Ritz06]

https://i.imgur.com/yWKso2H.png

[Porn Master]

Post your y-DNA prediction from MorleyDNA.com: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal?d=2018-07-06T16:02:47.303Z and describe the distribution/origins of each haplogroup if you can

This is me:

- G2b1a (most likely). (Semitic/Jewish related)
- N1a (N-P189) (mostly found in old Europeans. Not much info available).
- J2a1i (appears to be semitic/Jewish).
- I1 (North European).
- I2a (North European).



bullshit

I2a is ancient balkan (farmers and defenders)
I1 is ancient scandinavian (barbarians and hunters)
J2 is ancient mesopotamian (magicians and mystics)
N1a is ancient uralic (reindeer herders and badass survivors)
G2 is ancient west caucasus (philosophers and blacksmiths)

[happycow]

G2a3

[Profileid]

I regret not testing my brother

[Kamal900]

I regret not testing my brother

Pretty sure it's gonna be R1b or something. You can ask your dad.

[Ülev]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207511-Happy-I-m-not-R1a

[Profileid]

Pretty sure it's gonna be R1b or something. You can ask your dad.

He's been dead for 15 years. I thought as much with R1b since his side goes back to England.
Anyway, here is the data. I'm not sure what sense to make of this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423210727411810337/464877811409354762/Screenshot_4.png

[Kamal900]

He's been dead for 15 years. I thought as much with R1b since his side goes back to England.
Anyway, here is the data. I'm not sure what sense to make of this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423210727411810337/464877811409354762/Screenshot_4.png

Oh. Sorry to hear that.

[Profileid]

B2a1a-SubSaharan African haplogroup
The other two, M1 and M3 seem to be Papuan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_M-P256#Phylogenetic_structure
This really doesn't seem very accurate for females.

[Dick]

It predicted my I1 but not subclade

[Larali]

Can someone convince me that that site is trustworthy?

[de Burgh II]

R1b-U106 ------> Western/Northern Germanic; downstream is +L48

https://s22.postimg.cc/jf4fmaskh/Untitled.jpg

[magicalM]

J-M172 .Caucasian haplogroup. Later it can be trased back to Spain and Basque as a direct paternal linuage in my case.

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[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

J-M172 .Caucasian haplogroup. Later it can be trased back to Spain and Basque as a direct paternal linuage in my case.

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U cant trace it far back enough. Probably greek colonists, italian roman invaders or carthagenians. Basque are r1b. Not j2 really. You basque are not caucasians

Notice how the majority of j2 in here are new worlder spanish people. Caucasian people rarely ever have j2. Its a anatolian group and east medditeranean/balkan

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/BasqueDNA?iframe=yresults

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

J-M172 .Caucasian haplogroup. Later it can be trased back to Spain and Basque as a direct paternal linuage in my case.

Sent fra min Moto G (5) Plus via TapatalkYour profile says hungarian.

[magicalM]

Your profile says hungarian.Yes. Thats true, I am Hungarian but the direct paternal with a distance of 0 can be traced back to some people in spain.

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[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Yes. Thats true, I am Hungarian but the direct paternal with a distance of 0 can be traced back to some people in spain.

Sent fra min Moto G (5) Plus via TapatalkThat sucks. At least the rest of you is hungarian. Glad i have 0 iberian matches.

[magicalM]

It did not originate in Spain. That for sure. I do also have matches in Caucasus with a distance of one. Others are spread around Europe. What their genetic makeup was is also a question to be raised. Nobel families often married into other families.....

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[Porn Master]

Caucasian people rarely ever have j2. Its a anatolian group and east medditeranean/balkan






you mislead now people with this bullcrap. J2 is east northcaucasus and j2 in mesopotamia is its cousin

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

you mislead now people with this bullcrap. J2 is east northcaucasus and j2 in mesopotamia is its cousinJ2 is not north caucus. Stop fooling yourself.
Caicasians are usually r1b and g. Not j.

[Porn Master]

J2 is not north caucus. Stop fooling yourself.
Caicasians are usually r1b and g. Not j.




you know nothing, nigga

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

you know nothing, niggahttps://www.familytreedna.com/public/Caucasus/default.aspx?section=yresults

Were both somewhat right and wrong

Haplogroup g is the most common. They have less r1a and r1b than i thought.

They dont have that much j2. They have alot of j1 though. There j2 seems to be mostly j2a. Not j2b

[Porn Master]

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Caucasus/default.aspx?section=yresults

Were both somewhat right and wrong

Haplogroup g is the most common. They have less r1a and r1b than i thought.

They dont have that much j2. They have alot of j1 though. There j2 seems to be mostly j2a. Not j2b





you know everything, nigga

[Pausanias]

(most likely)
E1b
E-CTS1545
(E-CTS119, E-CTS1446)


EV13

[alnortedelsur]

J1a2b

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

J1a2bIn jordan
You dont even decend from europeans

[alnortedelsur]

In jordan
You dont even decend from europeans

Of course. Because an Halogroup that only corresponds to 1% or less of all my genome determines all my Ancestry right? :rolleyes:

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Of course. Because an Halogroup that only corresponds to 1% or less of all my genome determines all my Ancestry right? :rolleyes:It means you dont directly decend from europeans. Your fathers father father father ect. And so on, non european.
Autosomal dna can easily be washed out in just a few generations.
You are a middle eastern / north african decendant. Probably berbers. But it shames you.

[alnortedelsur]

It means you dont directly decend from europeans. Your fathers father father father ect. And so on, non european.
Autosomal dna can easily washed out in just a few generations.

I already know all that LOL

It doesn't override that I am vastly European, autosomaly, period.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I already know all that LOL

It doesn't override that I am vastly European, autosomaly, period.But you are still not european decended. Your offspring will forever he marked by your berber lineage. Well you have euro mtdna so you get a pass. But Remember your berber ancestors were proud warriors who helped civilized spanish people. Remember when spanish were being opressed by romans. Who helped? Berber carthagenians. Who ruled them for hundreds of years and taught them to be civilized? Berbers. Be proud. To bad spanish hated basic hygeine. But berbers advanced their science and math.


https://youtu.be/SRDYwqC0rS4

[Dick]

It means you dont directly decend from europeans. Your fathers father father father ect. And so on, non european.
Autosomal dna can easily be washed out in just a few generations.
You are a middle eastern / north african decendant. Probably berbers. But it shames you.

Makes sense. It's always western Europeans on geneaology forums that say paternal line/Ydna dosnt matter. No wonder the west is crumbling with this cuck attitude. "But it's only 0.00003345% of my genome bla bla bla". It's your fucking paternal lineage, faggots.

[alnortedelsur]

But you are still not european decended. Your offspring will forever he marked by your berber lineage. Well you have euro mtdna so you get a pass. But Remember your berber ancestors were proud warriors who helped civilized spanish people. Remember when spanish were being opressed by romans. Who helped? Berber carthagenians. Who ruled them for hundreds of years and taught them to be civilized? Berbers. Be proud. To bad spanish hated basic hygeine. But berbers advanced their science and math.


https://youtu.be/SRDYwqC0rS4

The paternal father of my paternal father (ie the father of the father of the father of my father) was an Italian immigrant.

With this said, my paternal Halo group have nothing to do with my Spanish heritage, just saying.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

The paternal father of my paternal father (ie the father of the father of the father of my father) was an Italian immigrant.

With this said, my paternal Halo group have nothing to do with my Spanish heritage, just saying.They invaded italy too.

Amazigh pride my friend.


https://youtu.be/rAO50-gcZZA


https://youtu.be/UHDhXzJ9OCg

[Thot Whisperer]

But you are still not european decended. Your offspring will forever he marked by your berber lineage. Well you have euro mtdna so you get a pass. But Remember your berber ancestors were proud warriors who helped civilized spanish people. Remember when spanish were being opressed by romans. Who helped? Berber carthagenians. Who ruled them for hundreds of years and taught them to be civilized? Berbers. Be proud. To bad spanish hated basic hygeine. But berbers advanced their science and math.


https://youtu.be/SRDYwqC0rS4

Jm267 is a West Asian haplogroup, it has nothing to do with Berbers..

[alnortedelsur]

Jm267 is a West Asian haplogroup, it has nothing to do with Berbers..

Yeah. I think you're right:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J1_Y-DNA.shtml

And my subclade has nothing to do with Northern Africa.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Yeah. I think you're right:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J1_Y-DNA.shtml

And my subclade has nothing to do with Northern Africa.Its actually lebanese. The ones in italy come from phonecian invaders. So maybe not berbers but phonecians nonethless who also created carthage and settled to intermix with berbers and other medditeranean areas.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Yep its middle eastern and lebanese

J1a2b is J-p58

Be proud

https://youtu.be/Hv_J_U0RJr8

[StonyArabia]

For me
T-M70 (T-PAGE78)(most likely) Which I am btw

M 3M-P117 (M-P118)

K K-PF5504 (K-PF5493, K-PF5480)

T T-PF5589 (T-CTS4201, T-PF5609)

N1a N-M96 (N-CTS7095, N-P189)

[Kriptc06]

doesnt work ith ftdna, but I did many YDNA tests there, I'm E-V13 - Z16242

[someonenotyou]

I1a2b1~1

I1-Z58

Anyone know where this is generally located?

[Dick]

I1a2b1~1

I1-Z58

Anyone know where this is generally located?


Z58+ is chiefly West Germanic, with a very strong presence in Germany, the Low Countries and Britain. It is also found to a lower extent in Nordic countries and throughout Continental Europe. Its age has been estimated around 4,600 years before present.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml

[Axios]

E1b
E-CTS1545 (E-CTS119, E-CTS1446)

[Ayetooey]

I2a1b3
I2-CTS1027 (I2-CTS1846, I2-CTS4012)

[Rgvgjhvv]

E1b
E-CTS1545 (E-CTS119, E-CTS1446)

Exact same as mine (most likely)

But I also got:

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)


R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)


F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)


^ No idea where these are from lol

[Kaspias]

It predicted my haplogroup true.

Q1a2a1c
Q-L330

Known as Hunnic.

Mostly found in Siberia, except there:

Hungary(4 Sample) Slovakia (2 Sample) Russia-Baltic(1 Sample) Ukraine (1 Sample)


https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/


https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Q1a-tree.png

[GreentheViper]

Q1a2a1a1 (Most likely)
K
A1
N1a
R1

[Leto]

It predicted my haplogroup true.

Q1a2a1c
Q-L330

Known as Hunnic.

Mostly found in Siberia, except there:

Hungary(4 Sample) Slovakia (2 Sample) Russia-Baltic(1 Sample) Ukraine (1 Sample)


https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/


https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Q1a-tree.png
Based on what raw data? MyHeritage?

[Kaspias]

Based on what raw data? MyHeritage?

Yup.

[Axios]

Exact same as mine (most likely)

But I also got:

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)


R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)


F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)


^ No idea where these are from lol


(most likely) E1b
E-CTS1545 (E-CTS119, E-CTS1446)

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)

R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)

F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)


these are mine

[Axios]

(most likely) E1b
E-CTS1545 (E-CTS119, E-CTS1446)

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)

R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)

F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)


these are mine

this is weird, i got the exact same results as you, is this page reliable?

[MiloshN]

E1b1b>Z5017>Z16988>BY34282 50%
I2-CTS10228 35%
R1a 15%

[Axios]

Exact same as mine (most likely)

But I also got:

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)


R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)


F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)


^ No idea where these are from lol

Ok so i found out on Gedmatch that i have Thessaly Greek and Central Greek heritage, that might explain why we got the same results.

[tipirneni]

Exact same as mine (most likely)

But I also got:

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)


R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)


F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)


^ No idea where these are from lol
I got these 2 in the Morley tool, but FTDNA classified me as H1a1a (H-M82) haplogroup H-M36-

R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)


F
F-F2048 (F-PF2745, F-F2075)

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/hG5ryTjw/Screenshot-2018-08-03-at-23-54-42.png

[Dick]

https://i.postimg.cc/hG5ryTjw/Screenshot-2018-08-03-at-23-54-42.png

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/723/mah-nigga.jpg

[Rædwald]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/723/mah-nigga.jpg

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AngryDapperAfricanaugurbuzzard-max-1mb.gif

[Ayetooey]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AngryDapperAfricanaugurbuzzard-max-1mb.gif

Is your Y dna A or I1 lol.

[Rædwald]

Is your Y dna A or I1 lol.

Yeah A, cause Adam is my dad :lol:

[Ayetooey]

Yeah A, cause Adam is my dad :lol:

I thought A was only found in Black Africans lol.

[MiloshN]

Yeah A, cause Adam is my dad :lol:

:eek:

[Imperator Biff]

https://i.imgur.com/rWfOoqTl.jpg

Confirms what I already know.

[dosas]

Mine:

81867

I must say I was expecting something else. And I am not sure which one of the R1bs predicted is the most likely one (R1b-L265, R1b-M269, R1b-M520).

I've ordered a ftdna Y-test but it seems to be taking forever to arrive.

[Stefanos.tasidis]

Your data has:
70 Y-DNA position(s) lacking mutations recognised by the genetic genealogy community. These Y-DNA positions may not be very useful.
138 recognised mutation(s) with positive calls.
685 recognised mutation(s) with negative calls.
1030 recognised mutation(s) with no-calls.

this is the final result i got.
what does this mean ?

[Axios]

Mine:

81867

I must say I was expecting something else. And I am not sure which one of the R1bs predicted is the most likely one (R1b-L265, R1b-M269, R1b-M520).

I've ordered a ftdna Y-test but it seems to be taking forever to arrive.

hmm Weird, almost all Thessaly Greeks from Gedmatch forums have some sort of E1B including me.

[dosas]

hmm Weird, almost all Thessaly Greeks from Gedmatch forums have some sort of E1B including me.

It might be that the r1b is of Arvanite and/or Vlach ancestry, according to some posters. Until I get the specific subclade from ftdna, I can't be very sure. Maybe I have some Latin Crusader ancestry or something.

[xripkan]

R1a1a1b2a1~1
R1a-F1345 (R1a-F2935, R1a-F2997) most likely, actually R1a-F2935 is my 23andme haplogroup result

R1a1a1b2
R1a-Z93

K
K-PF5504 (K-PF5493, K-PF5480)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

R1b1a
R1b-PF6438 (R1b-L407, R1b-PF6506)

[Kaspias]

R1a1a1b2a1~1
R1a-F1345 (R1a-F2935, R1a-F2997) most likely, actually R1a-F2935 is my 23andme haplogroup result

R1a1a1b2
R1a-Z93

K
K-PF5504 (K-PF5493, K-PF5480)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

R1b1a
R1b-PF6438 (R1b-L407, R1b-PF6506)

Steppes whispering you.

R1a's spreading mostly among Slavs. Not necessarily though.

[xripkan]

Steppes whispering you.

R1a's spreading mostly among Slavs. Not necessarily though.

Actually R-F2935 is a subclade of R-Z93 in which belonged Indo-Iranians, Scythians, Thracians and Mycaneaens. The Slavs belong to another branch of R1a.

[Lemgrant]

R1a1a1b1a2b3 (R1a-CTS3402)

[Dick]

I1

[Kaspias]

Is there any Q?

[Rædwald]

I1

https://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/jeremiah_johnson_nodding-Robert-Redford.gif

[Luke35]

This seems to be from an old tree (2013). 23andMe assigned me N-M2783 and I am sure I am actually even further downstream than that. I will do the YSEQ N-VL29 panel soon.

Examine Suggested terminal subclade
Long name
Short name(s)


(most likely) N1c1a1a1a~1
N-M46

N1c1a1a1
N-CTS10760 (N-VL29)

N1c1a1
N-L708 (N-L839)

K
K-PF5504 (K-PF5493, K-PF5480)

N1~1
N-F3436 (N-F963, N-F3312)

[Kyp]

(most likely) R1a1a1

R1a-M417 (Page 7)

[Leto]

(most likely) R1a1a1

R1a-M417 (Page 7)
Wow, you're an Aryan. That's very cool! :thumb001: I guess it's Z93 (Asian branch).

[Matxe92]

I1-Z140 (I1-Z141) (most likely)
I1-L759 (2nd most likely)
https://i.imgur.com/WwFcwrZ.jpg

[Kyp]

Wow, you're an Aryan. That's very cool! :thumb001: I guess it's Z93 (Asian branch).

That's pretty cool indeed.
r1a M417 isnt very precise isnt it?. How did it came to Northwestern Iran? Early Iranians from Central Asia most likely but could also arrived later right? (Scythians, Turks..)

[Leto]

That's pretty cool indeed.
r1a M417 isnt very precise isnt it?. How did it came to Northwestern Iran? Early Iranians from Central Asia most likely but could also arrived later right? (Scythians, Turks..)
Well, Iran is an IE speaking West Asian nation, there is nothing surprising about some of them being R1a, is there? I believe between 10 and 20% of Iranians are R1a.

[Adamm]

E1b1b1b1a2~2
E-V168 (E-V221)

E1b1b1a1b7
E-L250 (E-L251, E-L252)

E1b1b1a1b~1~3
E-PF1917 (E-PF1919, E-PF1921)

E1b1b~1
E-PF1454 (E-PF1913, E-CTS10184)

E1a2
E-P110

[Ayetooey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491704559228551192/598875673934954536/unknown.png

[Ikol]

(most likely) E1b
E-CTS1545 (E-CTS119, E-CTS1446)

E
E-PF1796 (E-PF1476, E-PF1557)

R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)

[OrhanU]

Y-DNA haplogroup: E-V13.

Born in Turkey. Dominantly Balkan roots.

[Kaspias]

Y-DNA haplogroup: E-V13.

Born in Turkey. Dominantly Balkan roots.

Where are you from? Can you give me your Gedmatch number?

[Hapanuwa]

Most likely: E1b1b1a1b~1~3
E-PF1917 (E-PF1919, E-PF1921)

My parents are originally from Turkey and I have no known ancestry outside of Turkey

[OrhanU]

Biga/Çanakkale born. Mother side: from Bulgaria (Shumen, Plovdiv, Targovishte); father side: granda - great grandpa from Serbia (Prijepolje), great grandma from Bosna (not sure about city, possibly around Sarajevo); grandma: Mardin

QP4256199


E1b1b1a1b~1~3
E-PF1917 (E-PF1919, E-PF1921)

[Kaspias]

Biga/Çanakkale born. Mother side: from Bulgaria (Shumen, Plovdiv, Targovishte); father side: granda - great grandpa from Serbia (Prijepolje), great grandma from Bosna (not sure about city, possibly around Sarajevo); grandma: Mardin

QP4256199


E1b1b1a1b~1~3
E-PF1917 (E-PF1919, E-PF1921)

Foruma hoşgeldin.

Sonuçların bana yakın. DNA veya Balkan kökenlerin ile ilgili herhangi bir konuda yardıma ihtiyacın olursa yardım etmeyi deneyebilirim. Ayrıca baya uzakta olsa eşleştik:

Largest segment = 4.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 9.8 cM (0.274 Pct)

[andre]

I2a2a1~1 CTS10057, CTS10100, Z162, Z175, Z181, Z184

[nittionia]

My dad:
https://i.imgur.com/5mVBUwq.png

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/FzBY8wGY/1.png

Left to right AncestryDNA, 23andMe.

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

(most likely) R1a1a1b1a2a
R1a-CTS456 (R1a-Z92, R1a-Z660)

paternal line from Lithuania/Poland

[Jana]

(most likely) R1a1a1b1a2a
R1a-CTS456 (R1a-Z92, R1a-Z660)

paternal line from Lithuania/Poland

Typical Baltic subclade.

[altaic]

23andme V5: R-M269 (R1b1a1a2) < R-L23 (R1b1a1a2a)

Morley DNA via 23andme V5: (most likely) R1b1a2a1a2b3b | R1b-S47

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S47/

So is this an Italian hablo? Formed 4100 years ago... Any feedback?


Details:
R1b1a2 L265/PF6431, M269, M520, PF6485/S3, PF6399/S10, S13, S17
R1b1a2a L150/PF6274R, L23/PF6534/S141, L49/S349R
R1b1a2a~1 L478, PF6404
R1b1a2a1 M412/L51/PF6536/S167
R1b1a2a1a L11/PF6539/S127, L151/PF6542, YSC0000082, YSC0000191, L52/PF6541, PF6546/P310/S129
R1b1a2a1a2 P312/S116
R1b1a2a1a2b U152/PF6570/S28
R1b1a2a1a2b3 Z56/PF6601
R1b1a2a1a2b3~1 Z46/S259, Z47, Z48/S484
R1b1a2a1a2b3b S47

[Nassbean]

J1a2b (most likely)
J2a1i
A1

[Epirus DNA]

Post your y-DNA prediction from MorleyDNA.com: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal?d=2018-07-06T16:02:47.303Z and describe the distribution/origins of each haplogroup if you can

This is me:

- G2b1a (most likely). (Semitic/Jewish related)
- N1a (N-P189) (mostly found in old Europeans. Not much info available).
- J2a1i (appears to be semitic/Jewish).
- I1 (North European).
- I2a (North European).

J2a1 Y-DNA is also Mycenaean and Minoan.

I9041 Mycenaean, 1700-1200 BCE
mtDNA: X2
Y-DNA: J2a1

I0070 Minoan, 2000-1700 BCE
mtDNA: H13a1
Y-DNA: J2a1d

I0073 Minoan, 2000-1700 BCE
mtDNA: H
Y-DNA: J2a1

[Epirus DNA]

J2a1i
J2-L88 (J2-L198)
Most Likely

J1a
J1-Z2215

J2a
J2-M410 (J2-L152, J2-L212)

A1
A-L985 (A-L986, A-L989)

I2a2a
I2-L34 (I2-L36, I2-L59)

[altaic]

23andme V5: R-M269 (R1b1a1a2) < R-L23 (R1b1a1a2a)

Morley DNA via 23andme V5: (most likely) R1b1a2a1a2b3b | R1b-S47

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S47/

So is this an Italian hablo? Formed 4100 years ago... Any feedback?

Looks like there is already thread about my question. This result may not be reliable from my understanding for R-S47. I am not sure though...
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?15561-Warning-about-S47-in-the-23andme-v5-test-MorleyDNA-com-Y-SNP-and-WeGene

[tipirneni]

H-M69 -> H-M82 -> SK1225 -> H-Z5888 -> H-Z5890 -> H-CTS8144 [CTS8144/PF1741/M5498] -> Z34531 (H1a1a4b3b1a8~)


Ancient migration along coast during 7th Mill found in Jiroft 3rd Mill, IVC 2nd Mill, BMAC 2nd Mill, Swat Iron Age

or

R-M173 (moreley predictor) or F
Arab clad of R

[Leto]

So the predictor is usually correct? I wonder how it works with the latest MH data. Asking for a friend :)

[WeirdLookingFellow]

E1b1b1a1b~1~3 PF1917, PF1919, PF1921, PF1923, PF1924

I can't find anything about these specific PF YDNA clades to see if anyone else has them and from which countries but it's a E-V13/36 subclade.

[Impaler]

J2a1b

J2-CTS6372 (J2-M67, J2-PF5120)

Mostly found in Caucasus.

[Bakha]

E-CTS1273 (ukraine, russia - scythian/aryan)

<tbody>



Most likely
E1b1b1a1bE-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)



E1b1b1b1a2~2E-V168 (E-V221)



E1b1b~1E-PF1454 (E-PF1913, E-CTS10184)



A1A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)



E1b1a1~1E-L433 (E-L88, E-CTS1001)

</tbody>

[OrhanU]

Hoşbulduk.

Kafamda sonuçlara göre şöyle bir soru var (My heritage sonucum % 80 Avrupa):

Babamın baba tarafı Sancak tarafından, anneannem Pomak. Bu ikisinin Türklük bağı gözükmüyor zaten. Anne dedem ise Şumnu tarafından olmasına karşın Osmanlı tarafından Bulgaristan'a yollanan Karaman Türklerinden olduğunu anlatırdı. Babaannem ise Mardinli, Arap, Kürt veya Türk olabilir, emin değilim. Türk olduğunu savunurdu ama Mardin'den Biga'ya gelin gelmiş olması sebepli farklı olmanın getirdiği psikolojiye bağlı olduğunu düşünüyorum.

GEDMATCH ya da başka bir siteden babaannem ya da anne dedeme dair daha detaylı sonuca ulaşma imkanı var mıdır?

[Kaspias]

Hoşbulduk.

Kafamda sonuçlara göre şöyle bir soru var (My heritage sonucum % 80 Avrupa):

Babamın baba tarafı Sancak tarafından, anneannem Pomak. Bu ikisinin Türklük bağı gözükmüyor zaten. Anne dedem ise Şumnu tarafından olmasına karşın Osmanlı tarafından Bulgaristan'a yollanan Karaman Türklerinden olduğunu anlatırdı. Babaannem ise Mardinli, Arap, Kürt veya Türk olabilir, emin değilim. Türk olduğunu savunurdu ama Mardin'den Biga'ya gelin gelmiş olması sebepli farklı olmanın getirdiği psikolojiye bağlı olduğunu düşünüyorum.

GEDMATCH ya da başka bir siteden babaannem ya da anne dedeme dair daha detaylı sonuca ulaşma imkanı var mıdır?

Eşleşmelerine göz attım. Şumnu'lu tarafın Türk. Hatta muhtemelen eşleşmelerin arasında Türk olan tek kesim onlar. Mardinli tarafının Türki karışımı var mıdır bilmiyorum ama eşleşmeler Arap/Süryani olduğunu gösteriyor. Gözüme takılan Kürt eşleşmen yok. Öte yandan Assyrian ve Suud var.

Direk Boşnak ile eşleştiğini görmedim ama bir kaç Sırp vardı. Onlarda Bosna Sırplarıydı. Bu konuda bir soru işareti yok zaten, Boşnak oldukları kesin. Mardin karışımı olmasına rağmen sonucunun dengelendiğini görüyoruz eğer Boşnak değilde farklı bir halk olsa East Med ve Red Sea skorun çok yüksek olurdu.

Sadece tesadüf mü bir şey ifade ediyor mu bilmiyorum ama bir tane Ged Arnavut'a rastladım.

Pomak göremedim ama çokça Bulgar gördüm. Şumnu'lu taraftan da kaynaklanabilir. Pomak tarafın nereli?


MyHeritage sonucuna takılma, bir anlam ifade etmiyor. Algoritması oldukça zayıf.

[altaic]

https://i.ibb.co/4PvqgWn/hablo.jpg

Italiano? Non capisco...

[TheBalkanite]

I-PH908

[OrhanU]

Şumnu'lu tarafım annemin babası. 15 yy'de Osmanlı tarafından Karaman'dan Bulgaristan'a yollanmışız derdi dedem.

Babaannem Mardin'li, Kürt olmadığı söylerdi ama Arap olduğunu da kabul etmezdi :) Aile geneli dış görünüş Arap'a en çok benziyor.

Babamın babasının baba tarafı Sancak, anne tarafı Bosna diye biliniyor. Boşnak'ız deseler de oralar malum, karışık. Arnavut'luk hiç duymadım açıkçası, ama kesin yok da diyemem.

Anneannem Pomak diye biliyorum ama Pomak-Bulgar farkı nasıl anlaşılır onu da tam bilemedim açıkçası. Anneannem tamamen Plovdiv (Filibe) gözüküyor. Biga'da etnik kökenler iyi bilinir, pek karışmaz, o yüzden eminim diyebilirim.

[OrhanU]

Eşleşmelerine göz attım. Şumnu'lu tarafın Türk. Hatta muhtemelen eşleşmelerin arasında Türk olan tek kesim onlar. Mardinli tarafının Türki karışımı var mıdır bilmiyorum ama eşleşmeler Arap/Süryani olduğunu gösteriyor. Gözüme takılan Kürt eşleşmen yok. Öte yandan Assyrian ve Suud var.

Direk Boşnak ile eşleştiğini görmedim ama bir kaç Sırp vardı. Onlarda Bosna Sırplarıydı. Bu konuda bir soru işareti yok zaten, Boşnak oldukları kesin. Mardin karışımı olmasına rağmen sonucunun dengelendiğini görüyoruz eğer Boşnak değilde farklı bir halk olsa East Med ve Red Sea skorun çok yüksek olurdu.

Sadece tesadüf mü bir şey ifade ediyor mu bilmiyorum ama bir tane Ged Arnavut'a rastladım.

Pomak göremedim ama çokça Bulgar gördüm. Şumnu'lu taraftan da kaynaklanabilir. Pomak tarafın nereli?


MyHeritage sonucuna takılma, bir anlam ifade etmiyor. Algoritması oldukça zayıf.


Şumnu'lu tarafım annemin babası. 15 yy'de Osmanlı tarafından Karaman'dan Bulgaristan'a yollanmışız derdi dedem.

Babaannem Mardin'li, Kürt olmadığı söylerdi ama Arap olduğunu da kabul etmezdi :) Aile geneli dış görünüş Arap'a en çok benziyor.

Babamın babasının baba tarafı Sancak, anne tarafı Bosna diye biliniyor. Boşnak'ız deseler de oralar malum, karışık. Arnavut'luk hiç duymadım açıkçası, ama kesin yok da diyemem.

Anneannem Pomak diye biliyorum ama Pomak-Bulgar farkı nasıl anlaşılır onu da tam bilemedim açıkçası. Anneannem tamamen Plovdiv (Filibe) gözüküyor. Biga'da etnik kökenler iyi bilinir, pek karışmaz, o yüzden eminim diyebilirim.

[OrhanU]

E1b1b1a1b~1~3 PF1917, PF1919, PF1921, PF1923, PF1924

I can't find anything about these specific PF YDNA clades to see if anyone else has them and from which countries but it's a E-V13/36 subclade.

Mine is by tree version experimental: E1b1b1a1b~1~3
E-PF1917 (E-PF1919, E-PF1921)

By ISOGG Tree version it is like this: E1b1b1a1b7
E-L250 (E-L251, E-L252)

[altaic]

https://i.ibb.co/4PvqgWn/hablo.jpg

Italiano? Non capisco...

So I am R1b L-23 and subclade seems most likely S47. How do we interpret this?
What about all other 3 of the R1b predictions below “most likely” , is it something to consider?

[Zroota]

Experimental tree:

BT
BT-M139 (BT-M42, BT-M94)

R1b1a2
R1b-L265 (R1b-M269, R1b-M520)

R1b1a2a1a1c2b1a1a
R1b-L45 (R1b-L164, R1b-L237)

R1a1a1b1a2b3~2
R1a-PF6506

R1b1
R1b-L506 (R1b-L278, R1b-M415)

ISOGG tree:

R1b1a2
R1b-L265 (R1b-M269, R1b-M520)

R1b1
R1b-L278 (R1b-M415, R1b-P25)

R1a
R1a-M513 (R1a-M511, R1a-M449)

K
K-M9 (K-PF5504, K-PF5493)

BT
BT-L413 (BT-L418, BT-L438)

Okay, now which one is more accurate?

[PaleoEuropean]

I2a1b2
I2-L161

I2
I2-PF3634 (I2-PF3623, I2-PF3664)

I2a2a
I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

I1a2b1~1
I1-Z58

[Mortimer]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310754-Y-DNA-Serbian-DNA-Project

[Euroindo]

R1a1a
R1a-L168 (R1a-M17, R1a-M198)

[Impaler]

J2a1b.

[Elias.99]

G2a
G-CTS11463 (G-F1554, G-F1975)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

S1c
S-P83

J2a1i
J2-L88 (J2-L198)

N1a
N-M96 (N-CTS7095, N-P189)

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

interesting, got R1a-Z92 with 23andme raw data and R1a-Z282 with ancestry.

[JohnnyP]

(most likely)
I2-PF3573 (I2-PF3876, I2-L460)

I
I-PF3618 (I-CTS10058, I-CTS11441)

R1
R-PF6007 (R-F211, R-F378)

Someone know origin of I2-PF3573 (I2-PF3876, I2-L460) and where is common ?

[Cumansky]

Ancient Balkans ^

[PaleoEuropean]

https://i.imgur.com/RD2R3yI.jpg

[JohnnyP]

Ancient Balkans ^

Who are you?

[Cumansky]

Who are you?

Vlad Tepes 2020

94759

[JohnnyP]

Vlad Tepes 2020

94759

You r beautiful?

[Cumansky]

You r beautiful?

I dont know ask your girl

[JohnnyP]

I dont know ask your girl

Single :picard2:
But i can ask ur girl.

[**JC**]

MorleyDNA

(most likely) R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a2~1

R1b-Z344

Down stream

R1b1a2a1a1 M405/S21/U106
R1b1a2a1a1c Z381/S263
R1b1a2a1a1c2 Z301
R1b1a2a1a1c2b L48/S162
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2 Z28, Z348, Z9/S268, Z10
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a Z2, Z30
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1 Z31, Z7/S272
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a Z24, Z20, Z23, Z25, Z26, Z29, Z8/S515, Z22, Z5
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a2 Z1
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a2b Z346/S512
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a2b1 Z343/S387
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a2b1~1 CTS7080
R1b1a2a1a1c2b2a1a2~1 Z344


Wegene

R1b1a1a2a1a1c2b2a1b1a4a
S514/Z344

Frankly I'm pretty Germanic.
Or Frank.

[Yamnaya]

R1a , I1

[SkyBurn]

It's the same as what 23andme gave me - I2 with no further subtype. Lame.

[Kyp]

It's the same as what 23andme gave me - I2 with no further subtype. Lame.

Welcome to the club. I get R1a1a1 without subtype.

[gixajo]

Welcome to the club. I get R1a1a1 without subtype.

Me too, most likely r1a1a1 , r1a-M417.

I am from Spain and I got : MyHeritage: 95,2% Iberian, 4,8% Northwestern European
DnaLand 96% Iberian, 4% North and Center Europe
FTDNA 86% Iberian, 11% Northwestern European, 3% East European

So I expected the typical r1b.

[gixajo]

Welcome to the club. I get R1a1a1 without subtype.

Me too, most likely r1a1a1 , r1a-M417.

I am from Spain and I got : MyHeritage: 95,2% Iberian, 4,8% Northwestern European
DnaLand 96% Iberian, 4% North and Center Europe
FTDNA 86% Iberian, 11% Northwestern European, 3% East European

So I expected the typical r1b.

[Kyp]

Me too, most likely r1a1a1 , r1a-M417.

I am from Spain and I got : MyHeritage: 95,2% Iberian, 4,8% Northwestern European
DnaLand 96% Iberian, 4% North and Center Europe
FTDNA 86% Iberian, 11% Northwestern European, 3% East European

So I expected the typical r1b.

Interesting. R1a in Spain is only like 2% am I right?

[gixajo]

Interesting. R1a in Spain is only like 2% am I right?

I´ve seen that in Cantabric zone ( the northeastern coast and mountanious zone of north east Spain, Asturias, Cantabria and northwest of Basque Country zone) is about 8,5 % but practically inexistent in the rest of Iberian peninsula.

[Rocinante]

For experts using Morley, what means the red colour in the subclades and the gray colour?

[InfamousAngel99]

I don't have one, of course, but I'm posting the results I got for my dad's DNA:

1. R1b1a2a1a2c
2. A1
3. J2a1i
4. J2a
5. I2a2a

[OrhanU]

E1b1b1a1b~1~3 PF1917, PF1919, PF1921, PF1923, PF1924

I can't find anything about these specific PF YDNA clades to see if anyone else has them and from which countries but it's a E-V13/36 subclade.

Could you find some extra information? I couldn't reach anything concrete.

[JohnnyP]

Someone knows something about I2a [I2-PF3573 (I2-PF3876, I2-L460)]?
https://i.imgur.com/5aUhR53.jpg

[porpozontokonto]

already took the y test but whatever

-R1a1a1b2a2 (R-Z2124) (most likely)
-N1a
-J2a
-K

[Freeroostah]

E1b1b1a1b = EV13

[Rokhan]

With the ISOGG tree :

https://zupimages.net/up/20/16/4j1q.png (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/16/4j1q.png)

With the Experimental tree :

https://zupimages.net/up/20/16/yanb.png (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/16/yanb.png)


I don't know which of the two is more reliable ?

[Kaspias]

I realized I have a new prediction with 23andme data. (I'm confirmed Q-L330 btw, just having fun)

There is also N now! :D

https://i.ibb.co/DDtj9VM/IMG-20200521-060144.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I2a1b2

I2-PF3634 (I2-PF3623, I2-PF3664)

I2a2a
I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

I1a2b1~1
I1-Z58

[Axios]

https://i.imgur.com/gg88hv9.jpg

[Hapanuwa]

I am confirmed African

https://i.postimg.cc/NjVQjJBq/Screenshot-20200525-153331-Chrome.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Axios]

I am confirmed African

https://i.postimg.cc/NjVQjJBq/Screenshot-20200525-153331-Chrome.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Why in yours it shows full E1b1b1a1b but mine only E1B cts whatever

[Hapanuwa]

Why in yours it shows full E1b1b1a1b but mine only E1B cts whatever

It's because I am a true Riffian Amazigh. But on the real, I have no clue

[TheLigurian]

https://i.imgur.com/gg88hv9.jpg

Hahahahahaha, there you go little boy, you are european now, like E albanians.

[Axios]

Hahahahahaha, there you go little boy, you are european now, like E albanians.

I never claimed to be full european u mongrel. Btw get a life and stop mentioning me.

[TheLigurian]

I never claimed to be full european u mongrel. Btw get a life and stop mentioning me.

But you are the real mongrel monkey immigrant here, you should go to your european country, Albania. Don't worry, is like going to Morocco more or less.

[Axios]

But you are the real mongrel monkey immigrant here, you should go to your european country, Albania. Don't worry, is like going to Morocco more or less.

I said yesterday i would ignore ur retarded ass, and so i will. Blocked.

[TheLigurian]

I said yesterday i would ignore ur retarded ass, and so i will. Blocked.

I'm expecting that, but are you as brave as your legit african E1b1b father?

[Axios]

https://i.imgur.com/CMFclXP.jpg

Don't bother answering as i dont see ur stupid comments anymore.

[TheLigurian]

Don't bother answering as i dont see ur stupid comments anymore.

What a pity... I'm so sad right now, the immigrant blocked me :(

[Kerem_turc]

G2a3b1i or G-L140

I don't know what branch it is but if there are people who knows tell me

[Rocinante]

G2a3b1i or G-L140

I don't know what branch it is but if there are people who knows tell me

I think some celts carried that haplogroup (i'm not sure), but G2a it's a predominantly neolithic farmer haplo.

[Adamm]

I think some celts carried that haplogroup (i'm not sure), but G2a it's a predominantly neolithic farmer haplo.

They were wiped out by R1B right?

[Rocinante]

They were wiped out by R1B right?

Yep, R1b-P312 literally wiped them (G2a, J2 and E1b1) from Iberia, but still some of them exist among the iberian population, we can see the user Endovelicus from Portugal has G2a, also we can see the user Ruderico and Defcon2 that has E1b1. Gixajo is even more invasor than the R1bs because he is R1a xD.

[Adamm]

Yep, R1b-P312 literally wiped them (G2a, J2 and E1b1) from Iberia, but still some of them exist among the iberian population, we can see the user Endovelicus from Portugal has G2a, also we can see the user Ruderico and Defcon2 that has E1b1. Gixajo is even more invasor than the R1bs because he is R1a xD.

Tfw when E1b1 is more indigenous in Iberia than R1b :rolleyes: :rofl:

[Rocinante]

Tfw when E1b1 is more indigenous in Iberia than R1b :rolleyes: :rofl:

You can see in my thread of Y-DNA in Iberia that in fact there is an E1b1 before the arrive of the Bell Beakers that carried R1b, it is in a map.

[Adamm]

You can see in my thread of Y-DNA in Iberia that in fact there is an E1b1 before the arrive of the Bell Beakers that carried R1b, it is in a map.

Yeah, E-M78 was spread in Europe more than 7000 years ago. R1B invasion must have been horrific...

[Mixdguy17]

I am R-L23

[**JC**]

Repost with my Y-DNA group chart
R1B-U106 R-Z344
100174

Added extra families and royal descent.

[Leto]

I'd like to bump this for Universe :cool:

[Adamm]

https://i.imgur.com/jAKqN5r.png

[Scandal]

I'd like to bump this for Universe :cool:

Already done this: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327592-Universe-Myheritage-result&p=6795094&viewfull=1#post6795094

However I posted only the most likely hg, I2.

This is the whole result:

* I2 [I2-PF3634 (I2-PF3623, I2-PF3664)]
* A1 [A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)]
* I2a2a [I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)]
* I1 [I1-L759 (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338)]
* S1c [S-P83]

[Scandal]

https://i.imgur.com/KQdgM93.jpg

[Rocinante]

Already done this: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327592-Universe-Myheritage-result&p=6795094&viewfull=1#post6795094

However I posted only the most likely hg, I2.

This is the whole result:

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/