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Austrvegr
03-23-2011, 07:02 PM
Classify the infamous Russian Czar Ivan IV


Life-time depiction

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/Ivan_Groznyi_na_ikone.jpg


Scull

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/Ivan-Groznyi2.jpg


Reconstructions

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/IoannIV_reconstruction_by_Gerasimov02.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/Rurikid_Ivan_Grozny.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/Ivan-Groznyi1.jpg

According to contemporaries' descriptions, he was very tall and strong and had a red beard with a blackish hue.


His mother, "Lithuanian" princess Elena Glinskaya

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/Rurikid_Elena_Glinskaya2.jpg


His paternal grandmother, Greek princess Sophia (Zoe) Paleologus

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/Rurikid_Sofia_Paleolog.jpg


His ethnic ancestry breakdown (not to be taken too seriously)

http://xmages.net/storage/10/1/0/5/d/upload/ed37bd89.jpg

1 Russian; 2 Swedish; 3 Greek; 4 Alanic; 5 Cuman; 6 "Lithuanian"; 7 Tatar; 8 Serbian

Peerkons
03-23-2011, 10:29 PM
North Pontid or Pontid-Nordid

Ivanushka-supertzar
03-23-2011, 10:31 PM
Scary as hell.

Peerkons
03-23-2011, 10:38 PM
I read somewhere that he had syphilis or some other disease, that is why he was so mad.

Ivanushka-supertzar
03-23-2011, 10:40 PM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/11aaabbb11/IoannIV_reconstruction_by_Gerasimov02.jpg


here he looks clearly armenoid

Smeagol
08-25-2013, 03:10 PM
North Pontid.

Peikko
08-25-2013, 03:13 PM
dinarid

Smaug
08-25-2013, 03:13 PM
Very East-Nordid nose. Some Pontid as well.

Zmey Gorynych
08-25-2013, 04:34 PM
I mean these are paintings and busts but he was probably a Nordid/Taurid mix with something mongolid. If there wasn't for the profile skull shot I would've swore he was a Caucasus man, other than that very progressive and scary.

Pegasus
08-26-2013, 04:33 PM
Armenid-nordic. Very disharmonious facial features. He was from Greek aristocracy and probably a redhead due to some sources. -

Smeagol
07-01-2014, 11:47 PM
Bump