Vladimir Putin brings to Belgrade package of projects worth USD 10 billions

[Radojica]

A package for Serbian economy brought to Belgrade by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin yesterday is worth USD 10 billions, ‘Blic’ learns. Whether that package shall be utilized or not, depends mainly on our side, i.e. on skill and seriousness of domestic business people.

At the moment it is known that 3 billions are for the Army of Serbia. Also debts by the NIS to Serbian budget shall be settled (about EUR 1 billion). And finally, the enterprise ‘Southern Stream’ is going to be founded.

Our business people yesterday did not have any concrete reply to the offer so the sides were only discussing what the Russian side had offered. A large delegation of Russian business people is expected to come on March 30 when all items discussed are to be turned into contracts.

The ‘Southern Stream' gas pipeline shall definitely run through Serbia.
The issue of Russian credit worth USD 800 millions remains open since our side has not drawn it yet. Russians yesterday also expressed interest in the whole system of the ‘Elektroprivreda Srbije’.

‘There is not a single limit in our cooperation’, Serbia President Boris Tadic said yesterday pointing out confirmation of construction of the ‘Southern Stream’, additional investment of EUR 500 millions into the NIS, development of ‘Lukoil’ petrol pumps net, new investments in energy system and electric power plants and credit of USD 800 for Serbia Railways.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin arrived on one-day visit to Belgrade at noon yesterday. As said the visit should give boost to economic and political cooperation between Russia and Serbia. However, although the top political representatives of Serbia and the Russian Prime Minister spoke about unlimited possibilities of cooperation in the sphere of traffic, tourism, science, technique, culture, nuclear energy, reconstruction of railways and agreement over international policy, not much concretely was said.

The meeting between Putin and Tadic at the Palace of Serbia lasted unusually long, over an hour and a half. After that political and economic meetings with Putin followed.

‘Mr. Putin’s visit to Serbia contributes to stronger political ties and cooperation between the two countries. I also see it as a confirmation of traditional friendship between Serbia and Russia’, Serbian Prime Minister Mirko Cvetkovic said opening the meeting attended by ministers of infrastructure and energy (Milutin Mrkonjic), education and science (Zarko Obradovic), environment, mining and environmental planning (Oliver Dulic) and Belgrade City Mayor (Dragan Djilas).

The Russian side was represented by ministers for extraordinary situations (Sergei Shoigy), traffic (Igor Levitin), deputy minister for education and science (AlexeyPonamarev), Deputy Chief of Prime Minister’s cabinet (Yuri Ushakov), deputy minister for economic development (Andrei Slepnev), deputy diplomacy chief (Vladimir Titov) and Russian Ambassador to Serbia (Aleksandr Konuzin).
Meetings at the Palace of Serbia resulted in signing of four agreements. After that Serbia President and Russia Prime Minister held a joint press conference.

President Tadic said that ‘the two countries have the highest degree of accordance in all domains of international policy’. He thanked Putin for support Russia was giving to Serbia regarding Kosovo and Metohija issue, for the fact that Serbia has been included in Russian global energy plans and for the USD 200 million credit by which Russia helped Serbia a mid of the global economic crisis.

‘We agreed phase realization of Russian credit worth 800 millions for various projects, mainly in the sphere of railways. We also discussed possibilities for investing in energy sector and overhaul of our energy plants where Russian investors would work independently’, Tadic said. He also said that ‘Serbia is very much interested in export of agricultural products onto the Russian market’.
Serbia President pointed out interest by Serbian construction companies to participate in construction of objects for the Olympic Games and the world football championship.

Serbia President requested from Putin support for the initiative to the UN Security Council over conducting of an independent investigation regarding Dick Marty’s report over human body trade in Kosovo and Metohija.

Russia Prime Minister Vladimir Putin supported dialog between Belgrade and Pristina and promised Russian support to Serbia for successful finalization of that process.

‘We shall support that process and will do our best that Serbian leadership finalize that process successfully. Every talk is better than conflict, that is why we support it’, Russia Prime Minister said.


‘Southern Stream’ gas pipeline to be finished until 2015
The international gas pipeline ‘Southern Stream’ shall be constructed because it is in the interest of Russia and the EU. This was said yesterday at presentation of that large energy project in Belgrade. The gas pipeline shall be finished until December of 2015 while its construction shall begin in 2013.
The stretch running through Serbia shall cost from EUR 1.3 to 1.5 billions.

link (http://english.blic.rs/News/7495/Vladimir-Putin-brings-to-Belgrade-package-of-projects-worth-USD-10-billions)


By the way, Putin also said that he is not against Serbia entering EU, but is strongly against Serbia entering NATO as that could be seen as threat to Russia itself. One third of all 'the projects' goes for military sector of Serbia. Coincidence?

[Guapo]

Pope is nothing, Putine is everything

[Joe McCarthy]

I suppose this beats Putin's usual practice of bringing booty to various Marxist and Islamist regimes.

[The Journeyman]

Serbia has the potential to become a tiny superpower if Russia and China decide that they need a strong satellite state in Europe. If they can improve Serbia's economy well enough, they might indirectly influence other nations in the region, especially with the recent economic downturn in Europe. The major world entities in the coming decades are going to be China, India and Russia, they might be the economic and political counterweight to eu and the west.

[Joe McCarthy]

The Milosevic regime was rather friendly with the Chicoms, it alienated Europe, and its safe to assume that the more anti-Western Serbs are the more likely they will be to jump in bed with China. For the sake of Europe that better not happen. China will be the new Ottomans, and the Serbs are still living their collaboration with the Turks down. I doubt it'll happen though. Serbia is looking west.

[Osweo]

God damn Premier Lang-tzi-mao Pu-Tang, filling our West with his evil! :rage

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Joe McCarthy]

God damn Premier Lang-tzi-mao Pu-Tang, filling our West with his evil! :rage

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Needless to say, the answer to Western travails is not to break bread with China, or enable them or other non-Western-non-white powers to become stronger. That's curing cancer with machinegun therapy.

[Loki]

The Milosevic regime was rather friendly with the Chicoms, it alienated Europe, and its safe to assume that the more anti-Western Serbs are the more likely they will be to jump in bed with China. For the sake of Europe that better not happen. China will be the new Ottomans, and the Serbs are still living their collaboration with the Turks down. I doubt it'll happen though. Serbia is looking west.

I blame the "West" for not embracing Russia when it was still time. They have effectively alienated the biggest European ally. But, Russia will still choose to ally itself with Europe rather than anything else. The West's governments are really short-sighted.

[The Ripper]

The West = American global hegemony and its satellites.

Europeans = those footing the bill of "the West's" wars for global American dominance.

[Joe McCarthy]

The West = American global hegemony and its satellites.

Europeans = those footing the bill of "the West's" wars for global American dominance.

The West is Western Civilization - the historically Catholic and Protestant nations of Europe and their New World offshoots. It takes a particularly fringe and cynical outlook to define it as 'American capitalism and their lackeys'. In fact, that is rather close to the old Soviet view.

In any case, even the way you define it makes it better than China, India, the Third World, Islam, or even Russia for that matter.

[The Ripper]

The West is Western Civilization - the historically Catholic and Protestant nations of Europe and their New World offshoots. It takes a particularly fringe and cynical outlook to define it as 'American capitalism and their lackeys'. In fact, that is rather close to the old Soviet view.

America does not serve "Western Civilization". Also Russia and the Orthodox countries are part of the Occident. I was commenting on your perception of the West, which is clearly defined as American hegemony and its supporters. All those against American hegemony cease to be Western in your perception. Which is why you exclude Russia.

[Joe McCarthy]

Originally Posted by Riipumatto
America does not serve "Western Civilization".

It leads Western Civilization, though I know that fact drives you crazy.


I was commenting on your perception of the West, which is clearly defined as American hegemony and its supporters. All those against American hegemony cease to be Western in your perception.

American hegemony is a good thing, yes. And those most apt to oppose it typically like non-Western and outlaw regimes, e.g., the real tendency for many 'nationalists' to worship people like Qadhafi, Chavez, Kim-Jong-Il, Ahmadinejad, etc.


Which is why you exclude Russia.

It's not a matter of me excluding Russia. They've never been a Western state.

[The Ripper]

It leads Western Civilization, though I know that fact drives you crazy.

If by lead you mean corrupts.


American hegemony is a good thing, yes. And those most apt to oppose it typically like non-Western and outlaw regimes, e.g., the real tendency for many 'nationalists' to worship people like Qadhafi, Chavez, Kim-Jong-Il, Ahmadinejad, etc.

American hegemony is a terrible thing. Those apt to support it usually also support the annihilation of a European Europe.


It's not a matter of me excluding Russia. They've never been a Western state.

Of course they are Western in a global perspective, since they are European. Only when speaking from an intra-European perspective can they be deemed Eastern.

[The Lawspeaker]

America ? Western Civilisation ? Since when ?

Well they do lead a plutocratic powerblock but they are sure as hell not the leader of the Western Civilisation. Because America lacks that ingredient you need for civilisation: culture. Normal human decency.

Judeo-American hegemony actually did a lot more damage to Western Civilisation then the British and French hegemonies before. At least the two brought in culture and influenced nations positively as well as negatively and it would be very brutally honest to conclude that American influence has been overtly negative in values and ethics, the cultural diversity (yes - American "cultural" influence produces a monoculture) of both European and other countries, it devastated much of the natural life planet on a scale the British and the French did never dream off. It destroyed the actual sovereignty and actual dignities of countries the world over on a scale the British Empire could never have achieved.

Russia not part of the Western Civilisation ? At least Russia is something the U.S is not: European. We consider it to be part of us here and you would find few Europeans that wouldn't.

[Gaztelu]

Perhaps the Serbs may have the money to reconquer Kosovo and Constantinople*.

























*In the name of Orthodox Christianity

[Osweo]

The Milosevic regime was rather friendly with the Chicoms, it alienated Europe,
Oh yes, EVERYONE I know was feeling so dreadfully alienated when that bastard Blair was planning to besmirch our reputation by dragging us into that filthy business. :rolleyes2:


and its safe to assume that the more anti-Western Serbs are the more likely they will be to jump in bed with China.
This China thing's become a worrying mania with you, Joe. :ohwell: Is this pretty much a consensus in certain circles over Beyond, now? As I've said before, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, this sort of 'us and them' talk. I worry it'll drag us all down into shit even more despicable than the bombing of fellow Europeans that we were part of twelve years ago. :(

But how the Fuck do you get from Putin to China?! Russian and the Middle Kingdom periodically go through phases of outward mutual good will, but they go out of them again quickly enough. You really think that Serbia will try to play one off against the other, especially when religious and cultural links are borne in mind?!

For the sake of Europe that better not happen. China will be the new Ottomans, and the Serbs are still living their collaboration with the Turks down. I doubt it'll happen though. Serbia is looking west.
WTF. 'Collaboration'... :eek: How the FUCK do you 'reason' THAT out?!?!

Ladies and Gents, is THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Tower) collaboration?!?
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What the FUCK are you talking about, Joe?

Needless to say, the answer to Western travails is not to break bread with China, or enable them or other non-Western-non-white powers to become stronger. That's curing cancer with machinegun therapy.
China will grow in power no matter what. The only way to prevent this is to actively hamper their development, thereby making them hate us. Which is folly anyway, as it will NOT WORK. All you will achieve is bad blood between us.

It's a small fucking planet, and there's fuck all else place to go, so we need to work with our neighbours no matter what, and we're ALL neighbours now, and the Chinese have to be allowed to take their natural place as a great power. The same was true of Germany before 1914. It took two world wars to stamp her down, and ALL that we achieved was to almost fatally cripple OURSELVES. Rising powers must be accommodated, for our OWN good. We are still in competition, but instead of trying to trip up our rivals, it would be better if we concentrated on improving our own performance.

THe sort of action you advocate, Joe, is more similar to the spiteful lashings-out of a corrupt old empire on the wane, exactly like the Ottoman who built the Tower of Skulls, than any healthy strong great power. You are the 'Sick Man' of our time, and refuse to retire gracefully, determined to take us all down with you if you must fall. :....

I blame the "West" for not embracing Russia when it was still time. They have effectively alienated the biggest European ally. But, Russia will still choose to ally itself with Europe rather than anything else. The West's governments are really short-sighted.
Fucking nail on the HEAD. We are lucky that no matter what, Russia will still continue to approach us as a brother. A people brought up on Shakespeare, Conan Doyle, Dumas and Jack London will never leave us.

The West = American global hegemony and its satellites.
When 'The West' comes out of Joe's mouth, and the Anglophone mainstream media, yes.

The West is Western Civilization - the historically Catholic and Protestant nations of Europe and their New World offshoots. It takes a particularly fringe and cynical outlook to define it as 'American capitalism and their lackeys'. In fact, that is rather close to the old Soviet view.
Like it or not, the USA has gone off on a very peculiar trajectory in comparison with the heartland of the west. It may spin off into its own destruction. I don't wish that on my ethnic kin and friends there, but a GREAT deal of effort is required to get that superpower back in kilter with the rest of us. :(

In any case, even the way you define it makes it better than China, India, the Third World, Islam, or even Russia for that matter.
The Han in the PRC are guaranteed that the future will belong to them. Each and every Muslim is hailed by his civilisation's ideology as a guardian of the very will of God, entrusted with a divine mission to spread His domain. The Russian state has always glorified the achievements of the Russian people whenever it has shrugged off the paralysis brought on it from without (by Polsko-Lithuanian Interventionists, German sponsored Bolshevik terrorists, and most recently by the adherents of 'Western' predatory wild Capitalism), and again we are dealing with a sense of divine Mission and Destiny. I know nothing of India, but the position of the Englishman in his 'West' is one of impending genocide by mongrelisation, murder and outright replacement.

Of all the blocs you mention, the native of the 'West' is in by FAR the worst position. :....


Perhaps the Serbs may have the money to reconquer Kosovo and Constantinople*.

*In the name of Orthodox ChristianityFuck that, let's get old Celtic GALATIA back. ;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/8/81/20060109002639!Galatia_Map.png

Trebizond and Lake Van too! To the TAURUS! :viking

[Loki]

Fuck that, let's get old Celtic GALATIA back. ;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/8/81/20060109002639!Galatia_Map.png


A good reason to be an atheist ... despite Saint Paul's fervent intercession for the Christians in Asia Minor, they still fell to the Turks eventually. ;)

[poiuytrewq0987]

Serbia becoming a satellite state of Russia in the Balkans is a lot more realistic than Bulgaria becoming such since corruption is not a big problem as it is in Bulgaria. There needs to be some sort of program for Serbs to increase population growth though since we are sitting in the low 7 million in the Balkans right now. I think to be a significant force we need to pull that number up from 7 to 10 then 15 and finally 20 million. I foresee with intensive economic investment by the Russians would provide quicker economic growth and thus making it easier to boost demographic growth rather than sit on flat to negative demographic growth as it is the case today.

We shouldn't ignore Greece since it is also another major player in the Balkans. It's in a bit of a tough position today. For a long time it had been America's ally whose partnership started to dissolve after Greece became part of the EU and Turkey embracing closer ties with the USA. I think for Greece to survive into the future it has to abandon America and align with its traditional Orthodox Christian ally, Russia who is more than capable of helping Greece economically and militarily.

Russia really need to invest into the two countries if it wants a counterweight against a strong Turkey in the near future and form a bulwark and sponge against possible American/NATO incursions.

[Joe McCarthy]

Originally Posted by Osweo
Oh yes, EVERYONE I know was feeling so dreadfully alienated when that bastard Blair was planning to besmirch our reputation by dragging us into that filthy business.

That 'filthy business' was necessary to stop the war from widening into WW3, but your determination to trash your own in favor of others is well known to moi (little different from the multicultural left in its own way), and the interesting thing is the inconsistency of it all. Take this:


It's a small fucking planet, and there's fuck all else place to go, so we need to work with our neighbours no matter what, and we're ALL neighbours now, and the Chinese have to be allowed to take their natural place as a great power. The same was true of Germany before 1914. It took two world wars to stamp her down, and ALL that we achieved was to almost fatally cripple OURSELVES.

In other words, the West must both not act because it may start a major war, and must not act to prevent a major war. But mainly it must not act.


This China thing's become a worrying mania with you, Joe. Is this pretty much a consensus in certain circles over Beyond, now?

Well, what can I say. We Americans are funny that way. We'd prefer not to be at China's mercy. Go figure.


WTF. 'Collaboration'... How the FUCK do you 'reason' THAT out?!?!



Serb collaboration with the Turks is well known to anyone familiar with the history in question.


The Russian state has always glorified the achievements of the Russian people whenever it has shrugged off the paralysis brought on it from without (by Polsko-Lithuanian Interventionists, German sponsored Bolshevik terrorists, and most recently by the adherents of 'Western' predatory wild Capitalism), and again we are dealing with a sense of divine Mission and Destiny.

Russia is a backward state, despite its vast resources, and at one time was seriously threatened by Sweden. Even post-USSR it STILL continues to support all of the worst regimes, and I'm not even going to bother mentioning all of the damage they did in the Communist era. I've covered that well enough elsewhere.

[Osweo]

That 'filthy business' was necessary to stop the war from widening into WW3, but your determination to trash your own in favor of others is well known to moi (little different from the multicultural left in its own way), and the interesting thing is the inconsistency of it all. Take this:
Can you explain how an internal Serbian matter could have led to WWIII? :confused: No great power has anything to gain from such a catastrophe.

The only thing that causes World Wars is when superpowers get trigger happy. :tsk:


In other words, the West must both not act because it may start a major war, and must not act to prevent a major war. But mainly it must not act.
'We' act, act and ACT, and HOW does our situation improve?! Not a jot. :shrug:


Well, what can I say. We Americans are funny that way. We'd prefer not to be at China's mercy. Go figure.
So the Chairman of the CCP is gunna start ordering you around in your own home if we don't keep on flinging bombs around the world?!

You forget that your own state is almost a continent in itself. Even if China took over Europe and Africa directly (which will not happen), you'd still be largely unassailable.



You ignored the MOST important part of my post, of course. The native citizen of the nations that have been swallowed up into your 'West' are in the WORST DEMOGRAPHIC SITUATION of ANY OF THEIR CONTEMPORARIES in the other major world blocs. And the enemy of these natives, the agency responsible for their impending doom, is their own political class - the very group whose plans you are supporting here.

[Joe McCarthy]

At this point I feel like I'm beating my head against the wall, but this item DID get my attention:


You ignored the MOST important part of my post, of course. The native citizen of the nations that have been swallowed up into your 'West' are in the WORST DEMOGRAPHIC SITUATION of ANY OF THEIR CONTEMPORARIES in the other major world blocs. And the enemy of these natives, the agency responsible for their impending doom, is their own political class - the very group whose plans you are supporting here.

First, there is much more to the immigration mess than politicians simply letting them in. Your country has a million illegals by one estimate, and the fact is that since the end of colonialism, when European powers could control the borders of colonies, illegals have been flooding in.

Second, several European governments, most notably Germany, PAY people to have kids, yet they still don't reproduce. That can hardly be said to be the fault of politicians.

Lastly, it makes NO sense to oppose EVERY politicial initiative, in this case military intervention, because certain politicians take OTHER positions one doesn't like. In fact, I will gladly take the Sarkozys and Camerons on matters of securing resources and safeguarding hegemony, over the nationalist niggers like Griffin who bewail neo-colonialism and ANY military action.

[Hess]

Russia is a backward state, despite its vast resources, and at one time was seriously threatened by Sweden. Even post-USSR it STILL continues to support all of the worst regimes, and I'm not even going to bother mentioning all of the damage they did in the Communist era. I've covered that well enough elsewhere.

Catherine II was threatened by Sweden because she was already engaged in a number of other conflicts at the time, the war against the Turks being the primary one. She simply spread herself too thin. I fail to see how that could make Russia "backwards" in your eyes.

And you are one to talk concerning regimes. The support for Mexican Leader Venustiano Carranza (when all the other European countries supported Huerta), support for Pinochet, Videla, Mubarak, The Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Etc( All murderous dictators).

And before you accuse me of it (which you will), no, this is not Soviet propaganda. These are facts that you can look up for yourself.

The Germans and Italians caused plenty of damage with Nazism, The French Revolution, while doing a some good, also caused quite a bit of harm. European History is littered with examples of failed ideologies and doctrines. By your standard, almost every European country would have to be considered backwards.

To be honest, there are plenty of Pro- America forums where you can senselessly (and might I add, quite distastefully) Insult Russia and other "backwards" European countries. This happens to be a European preservationist forum, made for people who love and seek to preserve the culture of all European countries- A goal that you obviously don't have, judging by your uncalled for attacks on Russia simply because it, like every other country in history, made some mistakes.

[Osweo]

First, there is much more to the immigration mess than politicians simply letting them in. Your country has a million illegals by one estimate, and the fact is that since the end of colonialism, when European powers could control the borders of colonies, illegals have been flooding in.
What is the point of this statement at all? :shrug: The most dangerous part of our foreign population is that segment that aren't even regarded by some as 'immigrants', given the fact that they were born here. What are you talking about illegals for!?


Second, several European governments, most notably Germany, PAY people to have kids, yet they still don't reproduce. That can hardly be said to be the fault of politicians.
My gran had five kids, all of which survived infancy. Should each one of them have five kids?! How on earth is that sustainable, when we no longer have colonies to ship spare people to? Why multiply for the sake of it? With the technology we have now, we could well afford to let the population shrink a bit. A 1.5 average of children per couple wouldn't be a terrible catastrophe, were it not for treasonous politicians intent on replacing us with foreigners.

When it comes to a population race with immigrants, it just becomes even more insane. The very fact that our society has lost cohesion and safety due to immigration is a factor preventing some from having kids, indeed.

Lastly, it makes NO sense to oppose EVERY politicial initiative, in this case military intervention, because certain politicians take OTHER positions one doesn't like. In fact, I will gladly take the Sarkozys and Camerons on matters of securing resources and safeguarding hegemony, over the nationalist niggers like Griffin who bewail neo-colonialism and ANY military action.
I didn't even know Griffin's exact position till I read Fortis's post today. I simply oppose any military adventure in which I see the damage as far greater than the gains.

The money we piss away on controlling oil could have been put to making oil obsolete by now anyway. The Chinks could have as much as they damn well pleased, then. :rolleyes2:

[Radojica]

soQlx19SKjc

"Старији брате, пољуби мајку нашу и кажи јој, кажи, да смо је достојни, и да се боримо и да ћемо се борити, и да је волимо.''


Older brother, kiss our mother and tell her, tell that we are worth her and that we fight and that we will continue to fight, and that we love her.:thumbs up

YITZEiT4skk

"You are Zvezda's chetnik, Putine, Putine" :icon_cool:

and "Save Serbia and kill yourself, Borise, Borise" :eusa_shifty:

[Joe McCarthy]

Emil, I'd suggest you look into Charles XII's activities in Russia as I'm in no mood to correct your poor recitation of history. The larger point, that Russia is backward, is not controversial. It has a per capita GDP lower than many Third World countries... As for US support for various strongmen, that was done to counter Soviet influence or block Islamists from coming to power. Meanwhile, Russia continues to sell China weapons, among other anti-Western regimes, while both the EU and US maintain an arms embargo on China. In other words, I will take our foreign policy over Russia's any day.

[Марко Краљевић]

soQlx19SKjc

"Старији брате, пољуби мајку нашу и кажи јој, кажи, да смо је достојни, и да се боримо и да ћемо се борити, и да је волимо.''

:thumbs up

YITZEiT4skk

"You are Zvezda's chetnik, Putine, Putine" :icon_cool:

and "Save Serbia and kill yourself, Borise, Borise" :eusa_shifty:

Great footage. Putin was indeed warm heartily welcomed by us. In one banner opinion of Putin and "our" American stooge of president. Priceless.:thumb001:

[poiuytrewq0987]

http://www.rtv.rs/sr_lat/politika/slike/2011/02/20/putin-tadic_500x300.jpg


I think if Russia wants to get back at the NATO for invading Libya... Russia should assist us in the retaking of Kosovo from Turkoillyrian invaders in the 2011 Serbian Liberation War of Kosovo.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Photo op:

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[Radojica]

Serbia Army has over a long period of time a problem with the Air Force since majority of jets are older than 20 years. The jets are mainly of MiG-21 type but there are also of MiG-29 type. At the beginning of 2010 Serbian Ministry of Defense sent to the USA requests for information for F-16 and F-18 jets, to Sweden for ‘Gripen’, France for ‘Rafal’, European Consortium for ‘Eurofighter’ and Russia for MiG-29M and Sukhoi 30.

There was also an option that the existing jets are sent to Israel for overhaul and introduction of the NATO standards, however, that idea was given up. After Putin’s visit, the alternative of purchase in Russia has got concrete details. Apart from MiG-29M and Sukhoi 30 jets, the system of anti-missile defense of S300 range is also being mentioned.

‘For some time already the ‘MiG’ does not have production and does not have any special reputation any more. Sukhoi, however, is in a different position. Those are exceptional jets but with obsolete electronic equipment. With this credit Serbia could buy a strong escadrilla of 18 jets as well as several divisions of anti-missile defense. For me it is more important what Russia’s motif to make such offer is than what the offered package contains’, Radic says.

Aleksandar Dragisic of the International Institute for Security says for ‘Blic’ that our Air Force has been until so far based on Russian arms. ‘From that aspect such purchase would be more suitable for us, but from political aspect it has disadvantages. This purchase needs not necessarily mean definite going away from the NATO since considerable number of the NATO members have Russian armament’, Dragisic pointed out.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Sukhoi_Su-30_inflight.jpg/800px-Sukhoi_Su-30_inflight.jpg

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[Adrian]

I think if Russia wants to get back at the NATO for invading Libya... Russia should assist us in the retaking of Kosovo from Turkoillyrian invaders in the 2011 Serbian Liberation War of Kosovo.



If you love Russia so much why don't you go to live there?

Remember:
'stone weighs more on its soil' :D

Turkoillyrians?!

Turks and Illyrians were enemies for 500 years. Today Turkey is our ally because thay are a part of NATO.

We kick serbian asses out of Kosova together ;)

[Radojica]

Turkoillyrians?!

Turks and Illyrians were enemies for 500 years. Today Turkey is our ally because thay are a part of NATO.

We kick serbian asses out of Kosova together ;)

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