Some claim, Altai people are blend of Iranic and Tungic (Northeast Asian) people. How true is that?

[cyberlorian]

In this Y DNA and MT DNA maps, it might show that the claim might be true:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups1.png
https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/7/78/Major_Y-DNA_and_mtDNA_Haplogroups-3.jpg


Is the claim true? What do you think?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

No

[Pahli]

Yes, there is definitely some Steppe admixture in Altai people, also y- and mtdna are diverse with both Caucasoid and Mongoloid ones.

[Sora]

No. They don't have any Iranic admixture. When Turks were created, they were already mixture between Caucasoid and Mongoloid race. Also Iranic never lived in Siberia.

Altai people are one of most Mongoloid Turkic groups. Also interestingly, they have 51.5 % Caucasoid Y-Dna, and most of their Mongoloid ancestry comes from maternal side as it seems.

http://i50.tinypic.com/25hirzk.jpg

[Pahli]

No. They don't have any Iranic admixture. When Turks were created, they were already mixture between Caucasoid and Mongoloid race. Also Iranic never lived in Siberia.

Altai people are one of most Mongoloid Turkic groups. Also interestingly, they have 50% Caucasoid Y-Dna, and most of their Mongoloid ancestry probably comes from maternal side

http://i50.tinypic.com/25hirzk.jpg

We have DNA from Pazyryk Scythians that show Scythians went as far as Western Mongolia and mixed with the local populations, native people of Altais were Proto-Turkic and dominantly Mongoloid if not fully, Scythians mixed with them and passed down the nomadic culture.

http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Images2/Maps/Achaemenid_and_Iranic_Peoples_in_the_Ancient_World .PNG

Where does Caucasoid DNA otherwise come from? Most of Central Asia was Iranic until Genghis Khan destroyed the region.

[Ülev]

:picard2:

all that is a fake history, in fact we had Great Deluge quite recently


https://youtu.be/wtkBY9eQI8A

https://youtu.be/ETyyIAWDOlI

:rolleyes:

[cyberlorian]

No. They don't have any Iranic admixture. When Turks were created, they were already mixture between Caucasoid and Mongoloid race. Also Iranic never lived in Siberia.

Altai people are one of most Mongoloid Turkic groups. Also interestingly, they have 51.5 % Caucasoid Y-Dna, and most of their Mongoloid ancestry comes from maternal side as it seems.

http://i50.tinypic.com/25hirzk.jpg

Where does the Caucasoid component of Altia people come from then? From Persians, from Slavs, from Celts, from Armenians, from Greeks, from Dutch, from Germans, from French, from Italians or else?

[Sora]

Where does the Caucasoid component of Altia people come from then? From Persians, from Slavs, from Celts, from Armenians, from Greeks, from Dutch, from Germans, from French, from Italians or else?

Of course not. Caucasoid components in Altai people may comes from PIE people. Well, where does Mongoloid component come from?

[cyberlorian]

Of course not. Caucasoid components in Altai people may comes from PIE people. Well, where does Mongoloid component come from?

Paleo Mongolians most probably.

[Proto-Shaman]

We have DNA from Pazyryk Scythians that show Scythians went as far as Western Mongolia and mixed with the local populations, native people of Altais were Proto-Turkic and dominantly Mongoloid if not fully, Scythians mixed with them and passed down the nomadic culture.

muuuuuh Iraniai

Just answer us one question: did the Aldy Beldians also moved east? I am sure acient Iranians were 50% Mongoloid :laugh:


Where does Caucasoid DNA otherwise come from?
Not from Persia :laugh:

[Proto-Shaman]

Where does the Caucasoid component of Altia people come from then? From Persians, from Slavs, from Celts, from Armenians, from Greeks, from Dutch, from Germans, from French, from Italians or else?
From southeast moving Corded Steppians. Altaic speakers according to Coon. 0% Iran. Arioians had BMACian farmer dna at those times.