Who are genetically more atlantomed: Coastal Croats or Romanians?

[Voskos]

Discuss.

[Voskos]

By atlantomed here i mean europid mediterranean admixture, iberian-sardinian-balkan type, not levantocaucasus.

[Bosniensis]

By atlantomed here i mean europid mediterranean admixture, iberian-sardinian-balkan type, not levantocaucasus.

It's all mixed...

Bosnia, Romania, Serbia, Croatia... are mix of Slavs and Balkan people and they are diverse as such, you can find Med. everywhere but Baltid as well.

[Voskos]

It's all mixed...

Bosnia, Romania, Serbia, Croatia... are mix of Slavs and Balkan people and they are diverse as such, you can find Med. everywhere but Baltid as well.

the adriatic sea from albania to slovenia has some extremely atlantomed phenotypes imo.they have stronger western features than romanians.

[Seya]

It's all mixed...

Bosnia, Romania, Serbia, Croatia... are mix of Slavs and Balkan people and they are diverse as such, you can find Med. everywhere but Baltid as well.

romanians are very mixed and u can find a lot of different phenotypes in here but baltid is very rare

[Voskos]

Here's an example of Croatian mediterranean phenotype who can easily pass in Iberia or North Italy:

http://www.sarajevotimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/croatia.jpg

[Voskos]

And looking at this Croat DNA result for example, the west med component is almost as high as in Greeks:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.86
2 North_Atlantic 26.09
3 West_Med 16.76
4 East_Med 12.16
5 West_Asian 8.18
6 Red_Sea 3.13
7 Oceanian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.77
9 Amerindian 0.04

[Hulu]

the adriatic sea from albania to slovenia has some extremely atlantomed phenotypes imo.they have stronger western features than romanians.

You and brennus seem to see different Albanians from each other

[Cristiano viejo]

Here's an example of Croatian mediterranean phenotype who can easily pass in Iberia or North Italy:

http://www.sarajevotimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/croatia.jpg

Why is that guy Mediterranean?

[Voskos]

You and brennus seem to see different Albanians from each other

what does he say about albanians? I havent followed.

[Voskos]

Why is that guy Mediterranean?

i mean atlantomediterranean.

[Hulu]

what does he say about albanians? I havent followed.

Ask him

[Voskos]

Ask him

why would I? Albanians are west med type people, thats my opinion regardless what brennus thinks.

[Seya]

Baltids may be rare but other Baltid-related phenotypes are quite common such as Neo-Danubian/East-Europid.

sure. i agree

[Voskos]

Baltids may be rare but other Baltid-related phenotypes are quite common such as Neo-Danubian/East-Europid.

i noticed romanians look very similar to Greeks compared to South Slavs.

[Sikeliot]

I think Croats look like Hungarians, Czechs, and Poles, not like Mediterranean people of any kind.

[Voskos]

I think Croats look like Hungarians, Czechs, and Poles, not like Mediterranean people of any kind.

many croats can pass in spain, south france,albania, north italy and even north greece in few cases. how do you explain that?

[Sikeliot]

many croats can pass in spain, south france,albania, north italy and even north greece in few cases. how do you explain that?

Northern input in those other populations.

[Voskos]

Some Romanians, yes. But generally Romanians are distinguishable from Greeks and are more similar to Serbs (both genetically and phenotypically) for example.

I have mistaken Bulgarians and Romanians for Greeks countless times. But I agree they do have an east european vibe that Greeks seem to lack.

[Sikeliot]

I have mistaken Bulgarians and Romanians for Greeks countless times. But I agree they do have an east european vibe that Greeks seem to lack.

It all depends on your perspective. For me, since my point of reference is always Sicily, I think even mainland Greeks have an East European vibe. But for a Greek person who does not set the bar for "Eastern European" as including themselves, they will see the additional Eastern European in a Bulgarian as opposed to in a Greek.

[Voskos]

It all depends on your perspective. For me, since my point of reference is always Sicily, I think even mainland Greeks have an East European vibe. But for a Greek person who does not set the bar for "Eastern European" as including themselves, they will see the additional Eastern European in a Bulgarian as opposed to in a Greek.

if you compare to italians, the only greeks who wont look east euro at all would be cypriots. island greeks from Greece, no matter how swarthy they can get, will show some affinity to northeast europe.

[Tommie]

I have mistaken Bulgarians and Romanians for Greeks countless times. But I agree they do have an east european vibe that Greeks seem to lack.
Bucharest, for some reason, has many Greek looking people. They could've probably been from there.

[Sikeliot]

if you compare to italians, the only greeks who wont look east euro at all would be cypriots. island greeks from Greece, no matter how swarthy they can get, will show some affinity to northeast europe.

Except possibly Dodecanese. Dodecanese match well Calabria and both have the smallest North European in their countries.

[Voskos]

Except possibly Dodecanese. Dodecanese match well Calabria and both have the smallest North European in their countries.

possibly. if you travel to dodecanese you really dont feel youre in a balkan country.

[Tauromachos]

romanians are very mixed and u can find a lot of different phenotypes in here but baltid is very rare

Imagine how rare it is in Greece then when it is even rare in your country despite being genetically closer to
Eastern Europe than Greece

[DarknessWin]

Croatians are mostly Dinarics while Romanians have a lot of Pontid med types.
So Romanians are closer to Atlantomed because Pontid and Atlantomed are almost the same.
Only difference that Atlantomed are Doli and Pontid are Meso