haplogroup P

[Harkonnen]

What race is haplogroup P??

[Kamal900]

Does it even exist?

[Pahli]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_P_(Y-DNA)

Its Eurasian but apparently originated in SouthEast Asia, they found it in one West Iranian individual from the Chalcolithic era. It might be related to ANE.

[Harkonnen]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_P_(Y-DNA)

Its Eurasian but apparently originated in SouthEast Asia, they found it in one West Iranian individual from the Chalcolithic era. It might be related to ANE.

I'm pretty sure it's related to the East Asian ancestry in Mal'ta boy. It's either mongoloid or negrito in race.

[Pahli]

I'm pretty sure it's related to the East Asian ancestry in Mal'ta boy. It's either mongoloid or negrito in race.

Mongoloid of origin probably, P is the ancestor of R and Q anyway but the question is who it was carried by since you can also find it in the Middle East

[Harkonnen]

Mongoloid of origin probably, P is the ancestor of R and Q anyway but the question is who it was carried by since you can also find it in the Middle East

I'm pretty sure you are talking out of your ass when you say it's found in the middle east.

[Pahli]

I'm pretty sure you are talking out of your ass when you say it's found in the middle east.

Its found among Iranians, go read the link you stubborn Finn :laugh:

[Pahli]

Early Neolithic Iranian with P1, so go shove your shit up your ass again please;

https://i.imgur.com/0rNweEj.jpg

He is even from my region lul

[Kamal900]

Early Neolithic Iranian with P1, so go shove your shit up your ass again please;

https://i.imgur.com/0rNweEj.jpg

My GP is from that region, lol. Yeah, he's a Persian.

[Pahli]

My GP is from that region, lol. Yeah, he's a Persian.

That area is dominantly Kurdish though, but very close to where my parents come from. I got 80% similarity with one Iranian that lived 6000 - 7000 years ago.

[Kamal900]

That area is dominantly Kurdish though, but very close to where my parents come from. I got 80% similarity with one Iranian that lived 6000 - 7000 years ago.

Yeah, but I guess there are some Persians living there. My doctor was also an Iranian Kurd till she left the hospital.

[Harkonnen]

Its found among Iranians, go read the link you stubborn Finn :laugh:

Of you mean those wikipedia numbers. If you check a little closer all of those numbers are from papers from 10 years ago. It was pretty common in those days to test only some few basic snippets, which meant you got Ks etc popping up all over the place from Germany to China. If they test those same samples today I'm pretty sure they come out as R1b or something like that. Well it's of course not wrong to call R1b as P1b1b1b1b1b1b1b1... or some shit like that, but I'm pretty confident those Ps in Iran are not any kind of basal Ps.

[Krivich]

Undifferentiated race. The early representatives of R1a had the features of all races at once. Later representatives of this haplogroup became the basis of the European race and the first carriers of the Indo-European language. It also remained in Asia, in the supermongholoid Yakuts R1a 80%

[Pahli]

Of you mean those wikipedia numbers. If you check a little closer all of those numbers are from papers from 10 years ago. It was pretty common in those days to test only some few basic snippets, which meant you got Ks etc popping up all over the place from Germany to China. If they test those same samples today I'm pretty sure they come out as R1b or something like that. Well it's of course not wrong to call R1b as P1b1b1b1b1b1b1b1... or some shit like that, but I'm pretty confident those Ps in Iran are not any kind of basal Ps.

What would R1b do that early in Iran and that far South? AFAIK there was EHG intrusions into Northern Iran coming from the Kura Araxes culture, however that occured at least 2000 years later at least. I'm not denying it could be R1b or whatever, but nothing is certain yet.

It still puzzles me they found one individual with P1, although its Early Neolithic.

[Harkonnen]

Early Neolithic Iranian with P1, so go shove your shit up your ass again please;

https://i.imgur.com/0rNweEj.jpg

He is even from my region lul

That does not mean it's basal P. It's just means that the sample is either Q or some clade of R1a or R1b but they are not sure so they jut named it P1 until further investigation.

[Pahli]

That does not mean it's basal P. It's just means that the sample is either Q or some clade of R1a or R1b but they are not sure so they jut named it P1 until further investigation.

Then there's very few individuals with P, I can't find much info about it, maps with Q and R shows up instead

[Harkonnen]

Early Neolithic Iranian with P1, so go shove your shit up your ass again please;

https://i.imgur.com/0rNweEj.jpg

He is even from my region lul

Apparently this guy was actually R2a-Y3399

[Harkonnen]

i think they are caucasian. native americans, turks, koreans, japans, chinese split from europeans and they mixed with mongolians and tibet peoples. this is why they are looks like asian phenotype and some asians have white skin. this is my theory.

i think Q, O, N looking white. later they mixing with tibet D and mongolian C this is reason why they are looking asian.

only real early asians are D (Tibetian) C (Mongolian) Native American also have C hablogroup too. but they not looking so much asian? they have big nose and their eyes not so slanted. why?

To be honest your argumentation doesn't appear very convincing.

[Pahli]

Apparently this guy was actually R2a-Y3399

The question is where R2 originated then, its a descendant of P

[Harkonnen]

https://s15.postimg.cc/t6qdg0ybf/LMAO.jpg

[Harkonnen]

Can someone prove haplogroup P (and by extension haplogroup R) is not a mongoloid haplogroup?

[Krivich]

Can someone prove haplogroup P (and by extension haplogroup R) is not a mongoloid haplogroup?

Haplogroup R is the cousin of N. And they are far from haplogroup I

[Harkonnen]

Haplogroup R is the cousin of N. And they are far from haplogroup I

Haplogroup R has nothing to do with N. The connection is far too back in time to be meaningful at all.

[Krivich]

Haplogroup R has nothing to do with N. The connection is far too back in time to be meaningful at all.

The connection with the "I" was even earlier. However, our dear Poles consider "R" and "I" to be European haplogroup, and "N" is Mongolian. I want to say that haplogroups are not a sign of race.

[Harkonnen]

The connection with the "I" was even earlier. However, our dear Poles consider "R" and "I" to be European haplogroup, and "N" is Mongolian. I want to say that haplogroups are not a sign of race.

Haplogroup indeed signs race.

Haplogroup R close relatives are haplogroups M & S

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_S-M230
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_M-P256

[Harkonnen]

Since there is no opposition we can now all agree that haplogroup R is a mongoloid haplogroup.

[Dick]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/P/

[Harkonnen]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/P/


Indeed, there is really no doubt that R is a mongoloid haplogroup.

[Harkonnen]

Bumped for Kis Kocos

[Ayetooey]

Bumped for Kis Kocos

Indo "Europeans".

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2680/4112342328_a5b605e44d_b.jpg

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

R the ultimate conquerors haplogroup.

[Harkonnen]

R the ultimate conquerors haplogroup.

From South East Asia.