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DarknessWin
07-20-2018, 09:48 PM
http://www.sdna.gr/files/1/Images/gkomenes-afierwmata/emmanuela%20kouklinou/6.jpg

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https://lifeviews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/emanouela-kouklonou-13.jpg

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https://lifeviews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/emanouela-kouklonou-23.jpg

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jobodwannaa
07-20-2018, 09:53 PM
Nose job?

DarknessWin
07-20-2018, 10:06 PM
Nose job?

No , it have photos from very young age and its the same.

Kivan
07-20-2018, 10:07 PM
Pontid with dyed hair.

Tauromachos
07-20-2018, 10:09 PM
Seems Pontid

Hadouken
07-20-2018, 10:10 PM
pontid + alpine

DarknessWin
07-20-2018, 10:11 PM
Pontid with dyed hair.

Pontids have long face

Kivan
07-20-2018, 10:24 PM
Pontids have long face

Alpinized Pontid.

Pribislav
07-20-2018, 11:45 PM
Pontid+Alpine.

Slavic invader. :cool:

Pahli
07-20-2018, 11:48 PM
Looks Albanian tbh

frdfgcg
07-20-2018, 11:48 PM
AlpinoPontid.
Looks Balkan Slavic.

Pribislav
07-20-2018, 11:49 PM
AlpinoPontid.
Looks Balkan Slavic.

+1

kleenex
07-20-2018, 11:51 PM
To me she's gracile like. Finer med like features, larger eyes. I would guess that isn't her natural hair color. Nothing about her is Slavic.

kleenex
07-20-2018, 11:54 PM
AlpinoPontid.
Looks Balkan Slavic.

Very little Slavic input in Crete.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 12:04 AM
Pontid+Alpine.

Slavic invader. :cool:

So slavs were 100% Med people (Pontids?) LOOOOL
Slavic invaders were Baltids and Gorids ,
and they never made it to Crete.

You are a fucking troll

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 12:09 AM
AlpinoPontid.
Looks Balkan Slavic.

Where are you all idiots came from???

https://i.imgur.com/ztiMlTI.png

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 12:10 AM
Looks Albanian tbh

Out of Greece she pass better in Bulgaria and Romania.
Albania are dinaric land the total opposite of her phenotype

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 12:35 AM
So slavs were 100% Med people (Pontids?) LOOOOL
Slavic invaders were Baltids and Gorids ,
and they never made it to Crete.

You are a fucking troll

Calm down and take a look at the percentage of R1a in Greece including Crete. R1a and I2a1b are did not fell from the sky in Greece. :coffee:
http://i.imgur.com/2QMprx2.png

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 12:45 AM
Calm down and take a look at the percentage of R1a in Greece including Crete. R1a and I2a1b are did not fell from the sky in Greece. :coffee:
http://i.imgur.com/2QMprx2.png

I am pissed of more and more with this crap Haplogroups every day from clueless new users here.

Haplogroups are not even 0.0001% of the dna, Also R1a and I2 existed here in Ancient Greeks too.
You tell me that ancient greeks were slavs???

I am I2 but my DNA are pure south european without slavic or northeast influence.

Let alone the haplogroups because mean NOTHING and lets compare phenotypes.
The girl is not Gorid and its not Baltid . Also he have zero Asian mix like north slavs
but she is Pontid-Alpine.
Nothing slavic

Dick
07-21-2018, 12:49 AM
I am pissed of more and more with this crap Haplogroups every day from clueless new users here.

Haplogroups are not even 0.0001% of the dna, Also R1a and I2 existed here in Ancient Greeks too.
You tell me that ancient greeks were slavs???

I am I2 but my DNA are pure south european without slavic or northeast influence.

Let alone the haplogroups because mean NOTHING and lets compare phenotypes.
The girl is not Gorid and its not Baltid . Also he have zero Asian mix like north slavs
but she is Pontid-Alpine.
Nothing slavic

Sure, bud.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 12:50 AM
Sure, bud.

You disagree ???

Zroota
07-21-2018, 12:52 AM
Alpine Pontid.

Dick
07-21-2018, 12:52 AM
You disagree ???

That you're basal I2, yes. There is not one test out there anymore that will give someone a basal Ydna. Even if you tested with 23andme then it will give you some kind of subcalde with their update.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 12:55 AM
Pontid+Alpine.

Slavic invader. :cool:

Slavs did never invade Crete

At best some Slavs may have come to the Island as friends or soldiers assisting the Cretans in their revolts against Ottomans
in the later case mainly Balkan Slavs.

They were then assimilated and became part of the locals

Invasion of Slavs in Crete
No way!

Cretans are tough,wild and independent people resistance against any kind of invadors has a long tradtion in Crete

But on the other side they are very hospitable and generous to visitors and assimilate you quickly if you don't take
care they turn you into a Cretan :cool:

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 12:56 AM
I am pissed of more and more with this crap Haplogroups every day from clueless new users here.

Haplogroups are not even 0.0001% of the dna, Also R1a and I2 existed here in Ancient Greeks too.
You tell me that ancient greeks were slavs???

I am I2 but my DNA are pure south european without slavic or northeast influence.

Let alone the haplogroups because mean NOTHING and lets compare phenotypes.
The girl is not Gorid and its not Baltid . Also he have zero Asian mix like north slavs
but she is Pontid-Alpine.
Nothing slavic

Vast majority of Greek I2 and R1a is Slavic heritage.

Are you I-CTS10228?

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 01:47 AM
So slavs were 100% Med people (Pontids?) LOOOOL
Slavic invaders were Baltids and Gorids ,
and they never made it to Crete.

You are a fucking troll

This girl is atypical for Greece but very typical for Serbia and Croatia.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 01:52 AM
Vast majority of Greek I2 and R1a is Slavic heritage.

Are you I-CTS10228?


Wait before you get a boner you don't even know if this girl has any of these haplogroups.

Phenotypically i agree that she would fit in regions like Serbia or Croatia

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 01:54 AM
Very little Slavic input in Crete.

Yes, and very few such girls in Greece.

Livin
07-21-2018, 01:54 AM
Looks alpine to me.

Her face look mesoprosopic not very long for med

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 01:55 AM
Vast majority of Greek I2 and R1a is Slavic heritage.

Are you I-CTS10228?

bla bla bla again haplogroup bullshit

We have not asian mix in Greece so not Slavs here

I like to speak with Phenotypes and DNA , let aside haplogroups

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 01:56 AM
Looks alpine to me.

Her face look mesoprosopic not very long for med

Thats why we classify her as Alpine-Pontid

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 01:58 AM
Yes, and very few such girls in Greece.

Few??? Pontids are the base of Greek population idiot and Alpines are like the 1/4

Sikeliot
07-21-2018, 02:00 AM
She looks Slavic to me. Like Ivanka Trump kind of.

Livin
07-21-2018, 02:04 AM
She looks Slavic to me. Like Ivanka Trump kind of.

No way!

The only reason that she gives a slavic vibe is the dyed hair nothing else.

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:08 AM
bla bla bla again haplogroup bullshit

We have not asian mix in Greece so not Slavs here

I like to speak with Phenotypes and DNA , let aside haplogroups

Slavs are not Asians.

You probably are not I2, but claim that you are because you have fetish on Cro-Magnons.
In reality you Greeks are one of the least CM influences nations in Europe.
The most CM influenced people in the Balkans are southwestern Slavs. That's logical, they have the most I2 (Cro-Magnons were I haplogroup). Most common phenotype in Herzegovina is Dinarid+CM. I2a reaches peak in Herzegovina. The difference between southwestern Slavic and Albanian/Greek Dinarids is the fact that southwestern Dinarids are heavy CM influenced. Albanian and Greek Dinarid are without CM (they often have Med influence), and in general Albanians and Greeks are very weak in CM type.
Scandinavians are most CM influenced people on the world, escecially Norwegians.

Livin
07-21-2018, 02:10 AM
Slavs are not Asians.

You probably are not I2, but claim that you are because you have fetish on Cro-Magnons.
In reality you Greeks are one of the least CM influences nations in Europe.
The most CM influenced people in the Balkans are southwestern Slavs. That's logical, they have the most I2 (Cro-Magnons were I haplogroup). Most common phenotype in Herzegovina is Dinarid+CM. I2 reaches peak in Herzegovina. The difference between southwestern Slavic ans Albanian/Greek Dinarids is the fact that southwestern Dinarids are heavy CM influenced. Albanian and Greek Dinaric are without CM, and in general Albanians and Greek are very weak in CM type.
Scandinavians are most CM influenced people on the world, escecially Norwegians.



I agree that Greeks are rare on Cro-magnon phenotypes but Albanians are heavily cromanoid influenced.


As for I2 is not exactly slavic but it comes with Slavs.

Its a mix between paleolithic populations,neolithics and indoeuropeans.

R1a in Greece is the pure slavic haplo.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:17 AM
She looks Slavic to me. Like Ivanka Trump kind of.

Dude this is the Slavic type and you need to notice the CHEEKBONES

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/david100_photo/1-3.jpg

http://www.mixonline.hu/System/Articles/Images/88af518e-a30f-40fd-9498-41e6b30147f8.jpg

https://pp.vk.me/GqX3MVSNnu0A2w-8NdFtPizRwcw5cMBwjgDhnQ/A_gkoZwDfXU.jpg

Marmara
07-21-2018, 02:22 AM
Slavs are not Asians.

You probably are not I2, but claim that you are because you have fetish on Cro-Magnons.
In reality you Greeks are one of the least CM influences nations in Europe.
The most CM influenced people in the Balkans are southwestern Slavs. That's logical, they have the most I2 (Cro-Magnons were I haplogroup). Most common phenotype in Herzegovina is Dinarid+CM. I2a reaches peak in Herzegovina. The difference between southwestern Slavic and Albanian/Greek Dinarids is the fact that southwestern Dinarids are heavy CM influenced. Albanian and Greek Dinarid are without CM (they often have Med influence), and in general Albanians and Greeks are very weak in CM type.
Scandinavians are most CM influenced people on the world, escecially Norwegians.

He probably didn't even take the test, but he's from a Slavic town in Greece, his town is next to Republic of Macedonia.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 02:22 AM
Dude this is the Slavic type and you need to notice the CHEEKBONES


Cheekbones are never mentioned in this forum when Slavic looks are discussed.

And i wonder why since they are a distinct trait for Slavs in particular for people from the Slavic homeland regions

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:22 AM
I agree that Greeks are rare on Cro-magnon phenotypes but Albanians are heavily cromanoid influenced.


As for I2 is not exactly slavic but it comes with Slavs.

Its a mix between paleolithic populations,neolithics and indoeuropeans.

R1a in Greece is the pure slavic haplo.

In the Balkans CM influence is most common in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
I see a lot of CM influenced people every day. Except Dinarid+CM, in Dinaric Alps very common phenotype is Balkan Borreby (Borreby is CM type).
Albanians are weak in I haplogroup, their CM influence is probably more conected with autosomal. Tosks have very few CM (almost does not exist). Ghegs have more CM than Tosks.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:23 AM
Slavs are not Asians.

You probably are not I2, but claim that you are because you have fetish on Cro-Magnons.
In reality you Greeks are one of the least CM influences nations in Europe.
The most CM influenced people in the Balkans are southwestern Slavs. That's logical, they have the most I2 (Cro-Magnons were I haplogroup). Most common phenotype in Herzegovina is Dinarid+CM. I2a reaches peak in Herzegovina. The difference between southwestern Slavic and Albanian/Greek Dinarids is the fact that southwestern Dinarids are heavy CM influenced. Albanian and Greek Dinarid are without CM (they often have Med influence), and in general Albanians and Greeks are very weak in CM type.
Scandinavians are most CM influenced people on the world, escecially Norwegians.

LOL idiot the most common to Cromagnon are Greeks ancient and modern skulls.
Both

And this because Greeks have a chin while SLavs are people without Chin = Asians

No chin and hyge Cheekbones with round faces and you speak about cromagnon.'
Brachy as Hell and you speak about cromagnon

You dare you fucking Beta males, that's why we fuck your girls every summer and speak to them like whores


Educate yourself :

https://i.imgur.com/Y4fU1k0.jpg

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:24 AM
I agree that Greeks are rare on Cro-magnon phenotypes but Albanians are heavily cromanoid influenced.


As for I2 is not exactly slavic but it comes with Slavs.

Its a mix between paleolithic populations,neolithics and indoeuropeans.

R1a in Greece is the pure slavic haplo.

wrong Greeks are more Cromagnon people along with Spaniards and France

Those Baltid no chin pedomorphic betas have nothing to do with cromagnons

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:30 AM
He probably didn't even take the test, but he's from a Slavic town in Greece, his town is next to Republic of Macedonia.

You are probably right.
He has a fetish on CM (paleo-Europeans) and he wannabe I2. :picard1:
CM influence among Greeks is weak, even Pontids are not so common among Greeks as he claim.

Livin
07-21-2018, 02:30 AM
In the Balkans CM influence is most common in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
I see a lot of CM influenced people every day. Except Dinarid+CM, in Dinaric Alps very common phenotype is Balkan Borreby (Borreby is CM type).
Albanians are weak in I haplogroup, their CM influence is probably more conected with autosomal. Tosks have very few CM (almost does not exist). Ghegs have more CM than Tosks.

I2 in albanian reaches 10-12% if i remember well.

Its not very rare i guess...

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:31 AM
Slavs are not Asians.

You probably are not I2, but claim that you are because you have fetish on Cro-Magnons.
In reality you Greeks are one of the least CM influences nations in Europe.
The most CM influenced people in the Balkans are southwestern Slavs. That's logical, they have the most I2 (Cro-Magnons were I haplogroup). Most common phenotype in Herzegovina is Dinarid+CM. I2a reaches peak in Herzegovina. The difference between southwestern Slavic and Albanian/Greek Dinarids is the fact that southwestern Dinarids are heavy CM influenced. Albanian and Greek Dinarid are without CM (they often have Med influence), and in general Albanians and Greeks are very weak in CM type.
Scandinavians are most CM influenced people on the world, escecially Norwegians.

LOL idiot Dinarids are the total opposite of Cromagnons.
Cromagnons = Doli , Dinarid = More Brachy than Asians
Cromagnons = Greek nose , Dinarids = Armenoid nose
Cromagnons = Hemicranic , Dinarids = Hypsycranic
Cromagnons = Strong body , Dinarids = Ectomorphic

Want more ??? Haplogroup mean nothing and you new users start
every time with the fucking haplos.
I2 is just a marker and nothing more, no DNA,no phenotype, no Cromagnon NOTHING

Livin
07-21-2018, 02:32 AM
wrong Greeks are more Cromagnon people along with Spaniards and France

Those Baltid no chin pedomorphic betas have nothing to do with cromagnons

I dont agree here.

Cromanoids are rare comparing to other balkan nations.

Marmara
07-21-2018, 02:32 AM
You are probably right.
He has a fetish on CM (paleo-Europeans) and he wannabe I2. :picard1:
CM influence among Greeks is weak, even Pontids are not so common among Greeks as he claim.

He also claims to be Pontid+CM but no one has ever actually seen him.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:33 AM
You are probably right.
He has a fetish on CM (paleo-Europeans) and he wannabe I2. :picard1:
CM influence among Greeks is weak, even Pontids are not so common among Greeks as he claim.

sureeee
https://i.imgur.com/Dbdl2ii.png

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 02:33 AM
In the Balkans CM influence is most common in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
I see a lot of CM influenced people every day. Except Dinarid+CM, in Dinaric Alps very common phenotype is Balkan Borreby (Borreby is CM type).
Albanians are weak in I haplogroup, their CM influence is probably more conected with autosomal. Tosks have very few CM (almost does not exist). Ghegs have more CM than Tosks.

And who told you that someone has to have I haplogroup to be CM in phenotype?

Is this a scientific established fact or a product of your own imagination?

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:34 AM
He also claims to be Pontid+CM but no one has ever actually seen him.

Older members and especially Albos know me , even they had my facebook.
Notice that noone came to meet me

And you pussy Turks are the worst here, more cowards than you dont exist

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 02:35 AM
Few??? Pontids are the base of Greek population idiot and Alpines are like the 1/4

Maybe you are right.
Just compare.
This is average Baltic girl.
I can't say that she is hot.
Just regular Slavic girls.
https://cdn.fishki.net/upload/post/2016/07/01/1999976/doc6gwr02e6fw65swt84vy-800-480.jpg

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:35 AM
LOL idiot Dinarids are the total opposite of Cromagnons.
Cromagnons = Doli , Dinarid = More Brachy than Asians
Cromagnons = Greek nose , Dinarids = Armenoid nose
Cromagnons = Hemicranic , Dinarids = Hypsycranic
Cromagnons = Strong body , Dinarids = Ectomorphic

Want more ??? Haplogroup mean nothing and you new users start
every time with the fucking haplos.
I2 is just a marker and nothing more, no DNA,no phenotype, no Cromagnon NOTHING

You are a very big idiot.
Dinarid nose have nothing to do with Armenoid nose.

Dinarid is not same thing as CM. I said most common phenotype in Herzegovina is mix of Dinarid and CM, not pure Dinarid.

In Bosnia and Herzegovina there is a tons of CM influenced people.

Have you ever heard for Balkan Borreby (CM type)? Balkan Borreby is the most common in Montenegro, western Serbia and Bosnia.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:38 AM
I dont agree here.

Cromanoids are rare comparing to other balkan nations.

Other Balkan nations are Braqchy as hell ,
where you see Cromagnoids among them.

I can post many CM Greeks but they have noone.
Lets speak with photos

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:39 AM
And who told you that someone has to have I haplogroup to be CM in phenotype?

Is this a scientific established fact or a product of your own imagination?

Dude, you don't know average look of people from Bosnia and Herzegovina. CM influence is very common in B&H.
The fact is that I2a reaches peak in Herzrgovina and southern/central Dalmatia.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:39 AM
You are a very big idiot.
Dinarid nose have nothing to do with Armenoid nose.

Dinarid is not same thing as CM. I said most common phenotype in Herzegovina is mix of Dinarid and CM, not pure Dinarid.

In Bosnia and Herzegovina there is a tons of CM influenced people.

Have you ever heard for Balkan Borreby (CM type)? Balkan Borreby is the most common in Montenegro, western Serbia and Bosnia.


You have not even one Cromagnon, in Greece have millions.
I can post photos. You can?
search among your brachy people to find cromagnon

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:40 AM
Maybe you are right.
Just compare.
This is average Baltic girl.
I can't say that she is hot.
Just regular Slavic girls.
https://cdn.fishki.net/upload/post/2016/07/01/1999976/doc6gwr02e6fw65swt84vy-800-480.jpg

Yeah , The asian mix is obvious

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:43 AM
Other Balkan nations are Braqchy as hell ,
where you see Cromagnoids among them.

I can post many CM Greeks but they have noone.
Lets speak with photos

Bulgarians and Macedonians are predominantly Brachy.

Serbs are predomimamtly Doly.
In the west sterootypes about Serbs are as about robust people with long heads. There is a loth of thruth in that.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 02:45 AM
Dude, you don't know average look of people from Bosnia and Herzegovina. CM influence is very common in B&H.
The fact is that I2a reaches peak in Herzrgovina and southern/central Dalmatia.

You confusing two things

I never said the CM isn't common for the people in Bosnia or Herzegovina or people with I2a

i said that its not selfevident to me that exclusivly people with I2a haplo can look CM.

Any one worked out a Scientific method linking phenotypes with 1 to 1 with haplogroups?

Never heard that such a science exists.

Would you argue then that all Pontid phenotypes also belong to one and the same haplogroup?

Ruggery
07-21-2018, 02:46 AM
Maybe you are right.
Just compare.
This is average Baltic girl.
I can't say that she is hot.
Just regular Slavic girls.
https://cdn.fishki.net/upload/post/2016/07/01/1999976/doc6gwr02e6fw65swt84vy-800-480.jpg

The Baltics are not as attractive as the Mediterraneans or the Nordics.The same for the Slavs they are not competition either.:thumb001:

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:49 AM
Bulgarians and Macedonians are predominantly Brachy.

Serbs are predomimamtly Doly.
In the west sterootypes about Serbs are as about robust people with long heads. There is a loth of thruth in that.

Bulgarians are Mesocephalic with a lot Doli like Greeks.
Fyromians are Albanians and Brachy.
Bust Serbians and Bosnians are more brachy that anyone

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:51 AM
This Serbian guy has very Serbian look (he is Doly as fuck). I would never confused him for a Bulgarians, Macedonians, Albanians, Romanians, Greeks...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NplMcjjVixo/maxresdefault.jpg

Dick
07-21-2018, 02:54 AM
You confusing two things

I never said the CM isn't common for the people in Bosnia or Herzegovina or people with I2a

i said that its not selfevident to me that exclusivly people with I2a haplo can look CM.

Any one worked out a Scientific method linking phenotypes with 1 to 1 with haplogroups?

Never heard that such a science exists.


Yes it has been scientifically proven of a correlation between Ydna and physical appearance as you can see here:

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royopensci/4/4/161054/F5.medium.gif

And here from World cup. Serbs are mostly haplogroup I

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdXAjWDUQAAsR-x.jpg

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:57 AM
Bulgarians and Macedonians are predominantly Brachy.

Serbs are predomimamtly Doly.
In the west sterootypes about Serbs are as about robust people with long heads. There is a loth of thruth in that.

I post one Greek man and one Greek woman from Cromagnoid type.
Want you to beat them with people from Bosnia .
I wait to laugh because you cant find more Cromagnoid that this not even in Germany

http://media.interactive.netuse.gr/filesystem/images/20160819/engine/newego_LARGE_t_1401_106997704_type12905.jpg

https://www.tlife.gr/files/Image/NEWS/2015/FEBRUARY/21-02/faidwnkefaleas1.jpg

http://cdn2.yupiii.gr/images/resized/icemax_700_a721bdff3a702646be41d02cdfce4c07.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.nikosonline.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/13256799_487010748163156_1403892191_n.jpg?resize=3 50%2C350

http://www.followme.gr/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_image/public/330_0.jpg?itok=zYweVEA0

https://www.youweekly.gr/photos/w_800px/articles/201807/8829dd_.jpg

http://files.missbloom.gr/2017/11/icemax_700_44fdb0c53f28d491deb2003d6a0ba873.jpg

http://viralcity.gr/uploads/posts/2016-04-11/mairh-synatsakh-ki-o-744x_.jpeg?token=0313a4b51fe26edb909e2fa69235781f

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:58 AM
Yes it has been scientifically proven of a correlation between Ydna and physical appearance as you can see here:

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royopensci/4/4/161054/F5.medium.gif

And here from World cup. Serbs are mostly haplogroup I

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdXAjWDUQAAsR-x.jpg

Have no connection , people from Montenegro are taller and EV13

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:00 AM
This Serbian guy has very Serbian look (he is Doly as fuck). I would never confused him for a Bulgarians, Macedonians, Albanians, Romanians, Greeks...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NplMcjjVixo/maxresdefault.jpg

Clueless fuck long face dont mean Doli , we speak for occupital bone :picard1:

This is PURE DINARIC FACE

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:02 AM
Have no connection , people from Montenegro are taller and EV13

People from the part of Montenegro with more E-V13 are shorter on average than people from areas in Montenegro where I2a is most dominant.

Most of Montenegrins who are E-V13 are taller than Albanians who are E-V13, because Montegrins who carry E-V13 are heavy mixed with I2a autosomally.

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:05 AM
The Baltics are not as attractive as the Mediterraneans or the Nordics.The same for the Slavs they are not competition either.:thumb001:

In Greece there are not true Meds. True Meds are in Iberia and Italia only.
:)

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:05 AM
Clueless fuck long face dont mean Doli , we speak for occupital bone :picard1:

This is PURE DINARIC FACE

Of course that he is Dinarid.
Dinarids have long faces. Stereotypes about Serbs as people with long faces is because of Dinarid type.

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:09 AM
Have no connection , people from Montenegro are taller and EV13

You're either blind or dumb or both.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:10 AM
People from parts of Montenegro with more E-V13 are shorter on average than people from areas in Montenegro where I2a is most dominant.

Most of Montenegrins who are E-V13 are taller than Albanians who are E-V13, because Montegrins who carry E-V13 are heavy mixed with I2a autosomally.

Dude stop this crap with Haplogroups, its only fucking 0.0001 % of DNA.
And Montenegrins are mostly EV13 and the taller in Europe

I wait for Cromagnoids from Bosnia, i posted one man and one woman from Greece
which i believe they are the most cromagnoids ever.

The cromagnoid influence in Greece is huge.
I dont even understand why people still claim that Baltids are cromagnoids
when they dont even have a chin and they are pedomorphic

Ruggery
07-21-2018, 03:12 AM
In Greece there are not true Meds. True Meds are in Iberia and Italia only.
:)

The Mediterranean do not exist in Greece? I discover it now.

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:14 AM
The Mediterranean do not exist in Greece? I discover it now.

Pontids.
They mixed with Slavic.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:14 AM
You're either blind or dumb or both.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg

I wait for study and dna tests that prove connection between haplogroup and height.
You people are fucking idiots , also the stats are wrong because Montenegro are taller around 185

Haplogroup have no conection to dna and especially height.
All this shit is pseudoscience

Also Kosovars are tall as Montenegrins and not I2 either

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:15 AM
Pontids.
They mixed with Slav.

Pontids are 100% med type similar to Atlantomed

Slavs are not Pontids ffs.

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:15 AM
Pontids are 100% med type similar to Atlantomed

Slavs are not Pontids ffs.

This true Med.
Girls like that atypical for Greece.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?252596-Classify-Brazilian-model-Talita-Correa

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:16 AM
Of course that he is Dinarid.
Dinarids have long faces. Stereotypes about Serbs as people with long faces is because of Dinarid type.

So this man is Brachy and not Doli ,
thats what i am saying

I ask for Doli man and you post a brachy Dinarid with long face.
Are you clueless

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:17 AM
This true Med.
Girls like that atypical for Greece.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?252596-Classify-Brazilian-model-Talita-Correa

atypical ??? If you say so lol

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:18 AM
This Pontid from Greece.
She looks Slavic or Albanian.
http://i.imgur.com/xux9qGc.jpg

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:19 AM
I wait for study and dna tests that prove connection between haplogroup and height.
You people are fucking idiots , also the stats are wrong because Montenegro are taller around 185

Haplogroup have no conection to dna and especially height.
All this shit is pseudoscience

Also Kosovars are tall as Montenegrins and not I2 either

:rotfl: Here it is once again


http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:23 AM
Dude stop this crap with Haplogroups, its only fucking 0.0001 % of DNA.
And Montenegrins are mostly EV13 and the taller in Europe

I wait for Cromagnoids from Bosnia, i posted one man and one woman from Greece
which i believe they are the most cromagnoids ever.

The cromagnoid influence in Greece is huge.
I dont even understand why people still claim that Baltids are cromagnoids
when they dont even have a chin and they are pedomorphic

Montenegrins are predominantly I2a, and E-V13 is on the second place.
The tallest people on the world are Herzegovinians https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/04/12/move-over-dutch-men-herzegovinians-may-be-tallest-world-11122
https://www.acsh.org/sites/default/files/Herzegovinians.jpg

2 Bosnian actor with CM influence (first one is Bosnian muslim or Bosniak, second one is Bosnian Serb)
https://www.jabuka.tv/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/enis-beslagic-810x486.jpeg
https://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/tinypic10/Kostic/ae359778.jpg

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:23 AM
:rotfl: Here it is once again


http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg


I know this from over 4 years before but this didnt prove the connection between I2 and height.
They are tall because of the phenotype and not because of the haplogroup

Haplgroup have nothing to do with height

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:25 AM
Montenegrins are predominantly I2a, and E-V13 is on the second place.
The tallest people on the world are Herzegovinians https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/04/12/move-over-dutch-men-herzegovinians-may-be-tallest-world-11122
https://www.acsh.org/sites/default/files/Herzegovinians.jpg

2 Bosnian actor with CM influence (first one is Bosnian mujslim or Bosnia, second one is Bosnian Serb)
https://www.jabuka.tv/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/enis-beslagic-810x486.jpeg
https://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/tinypic10/Kostic0656e25b.jpg

Ok man i let it here you are clueless or trolling.
This man have nothing Cromagnoid in him.

He even have triangle shape face without strong chin like the greek man i posted

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:27 AM
I know this from over 4 years before but this didnt prove the connection between I2 and height.
They are tall because of the phenotype and not because of the haplogroup

It's a study from last year, not 4 years ago.


Published 12 April 2017


Haplgroup have nothing to do with height

Obviously it does.

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:27 AM
Another Pontid girl.
She looks Balkan Slavic.
http://joytv.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/anna.jpg

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:28 AM
It's a study from last year.





Obviously it does.


The parts of the DNA that give the height have nothing to do with Phenotype.
And you know that the most tall in the World are a tribe of Africa

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:29 AM
Ok man i let it here you are clueless or trolling.
This man have nothing Cromagnoid in him.

He even have triangle shape face without strong chin like the greek man i posted

Wrong, he has CM influence.

Same as second Bosnian actor
https://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/tinypic10/Kostic/ae359778.jpg

nightrider+
07-21-2018, 03:29 AM
Calm down and take a look at the percentage of R1a in Greece including Crete. R1a and I2a1b are did not fell from the sky in Greece. :coffee:
http://i.imgur.com/2QMprx2.pngLmao, this map is completely false. More than 20% r1a in Crete? Point me to the study that shows that.

The girl is med-negroid btw.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:29 AM
Another Pontid girl.
She looks Balkan Slavic.
http://joytv.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/anna.jpg

Nope , this girl look Greek or Italian but no way SLavic

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:31 AM
The parts of the DNA that give the height have nothing to do with Phenotype.

Yes it does according to this study


And you know that the most tall in the World are a tribe of Africa
We're talking about Europe here.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:32 AM
Nope , this girl look Greek or Italian but no way SLavic

Edit .
and yes she is Greek Anna-Maria Velli

You are Albanian troll, catch you biatch

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:33 AM
Nope , this girl look Greek or Italian but no way SLavic

I just want to say I don't know what real Greek look is.
Those who have the NE or SE phenotypes look like Balkan Slavs.
Other Greeks look Turk or MENA.

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:34 AM
Edit .
and yes she is Greek Anna-Maria Velli

Is she fully Cretan or did her family move there from the mainland or somewhere else?

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:34 AM
Yes it does according to this study


We're talking about Europe here.


I see no study just they post taller countries they see their haplogroup and make a
connection. This is ridiculous

They must compare all people from the same country and their haplo with height
to see if this is correct or just happened.

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:36 AM
I see no study just they post taller countries they see their haplogroup and make a
connection. This is ridiculous

They must compare all people from the same country and their haplo with height
to see if this is correct or just happened.

Everything is ridiculous to you if you dont agree with it.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:37 AM
Is she fully Cretan or did her family move there from the mainland or somewhere else?

Nope she is Pelloponesian lived in Athens

She is famous in Greece and yes indeed she is Pontid but she doesnt look Slavic to me.
And with Slavic i mean Baltic Slavic regions not the Balkans countries like Bulgaria.
She pass in Bulgaria because they have thracian Med roots

Pure med Girl and hot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFavaG7hE0g

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:39 AM
Nope she is Pelloponesian lived in Athens

She is famous in Greece and yes indeed she is Pontid but she doesnt look Slavic to me.
And with Slavic i mean Baltic Slavic regions not the Balkans countries like Bulgaria.
She pass in Bulgaria because they have thracian Med roots

Pure med Girl and hot


No man not her, the girl in the OP Emmanuela Koulinou

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:40 AM
Nope she is Pelloponesian lived in Athens

She is famous in Greece and yes indeed she is Pontid but she doesnt look Slavic to me.
And with Slavic i mean Baltic Slavic regions not the Balkans countries like Bulgaria.
She pass in Bulgaria because they have thracian Med roots

Pure med Girl and hot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFavaG7hE0g

She looks Balkan Slavic.

Marmara
07-21-2018, 03:40 AM
She isn't hot. She has flat chest and flat ass.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:41 AM
I just want to say I don't know what real Greek look is.
Those who have the NE or SE phenotypes look like Balkan Slavs.
Other Greeks look Turk or MENA.

Only Cypriots and Pontic Greeks look mena

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 03:41 AM
Nope she is Pelloponesian lived in Athens

She is famous in Greece and yes indeed she is Pontid but she doesnt look Slavic to me.
And with Slavic i mean Baltic Slavic regions not the Balkans countries like Bulgaria.
She pass in Bulgaria because they have thracian Med roots

Pure med Girl and hot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFavaG7hE0g

She can pass as native in Cyprus without any trouble imo

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:41 AM
She isn't hot. She has flat chest and flat ass.

That's what i Like bitch.
Stop follow my threads

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:42 AM
Albanians and Greeks are 12-13% I haplogroup (Cro-Magnon haplo).

South Slavs have quite more I than Albanians/Greeks.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 03:46 AM
Albanians and Greeks are 12-13% I haplogroup (Cro-Magnon haplo).

South Slavs have quite more I than Albanians.

Again this Haplogroup bullshit.
I am out

Dick
07-21-2018, 03:47 AM
Again this Haplogroup bullshit.
I am out

Wait...before you go

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg

http://en.protothema.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/se.jpg

Livin
07-21-2018, 03:52 AM
This Pontid from Greece.
She looks Slavic or Albanian.
http://i.imgur.com/xux9qGc.jpg

I am in love!

We have her name btw?

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 03:52 AM
Albanians and Greeks are 12-13% I haplogroup (Cro-Magnon haplo).
South Slavs have quite more I than Albanians/Greeks.

This is true

And?

It only proves that both Albanians and Greeks are genetically different populations from South Slavic ones

Thanks for proving Greeks are not South Slavs

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:53 AM
Yeah , The asian mix is obvious

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?252331-Can-these-girls-pass-as-half-Japanese-in-Japan

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:55 AM
Again this Haplogroup bullshit.
I am out

Cro-Magnons were I2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M438#Origin_&_prehistoric_presence

You are from counrty where is most dominant neolitic genetic, and you can only dream to be descendant of Cro-Magons.

Which country is the most paleo-European?
https://aryanity.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/chapter-3-figure3.jpg

Livin
07-21-2018, 03:55 AM
Albanians and Greeks are 12-13% I haplogroup (Cro-Magnon haplo).

South Slavs have quite more I than Albanians/Greeks.

I2 is not only Cro-magnon haplo but combine paleolithic,neolithic and indoeuropean(paleobalkan thraco-dacian).

Both albania and greece took it from Yugoslavs.

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:57 AM
This is true

And?

It only proves that both Albanians and Greeks are genetically different populations from South Slavic ones

Thanks for proving Greeks are not South Slavs

Which idiot claim nonsense that Albanians and Greeks are genetically similar to south Slavs?

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 03:58 AM
Cro-Magnons were I2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M438#Origin_&_prehistoric_presence

You are from counrty where is most dominant neolitic genetic, and you can only dream to be descendant of Cro-Magons.

Which country is the most paleo-European?
https://aryanity.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/chapter-3-figure3.jpg

All modern Caucasoid people of Europe and Asia are a mix of major Cromagnon ancestry and minor Neanderthal.

How where all Cromagnons I2?

Do you understand that Cromagnid was the prototype from which most other Caucasoid phenotypes

Meds,Nordics... developed?

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:59 AM
I am in love!

We have her name btw?

I took her photo from this thread.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?174860-Classify-Greek-girl

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 03:59 AM
Which idiot claim nonsense that Albanians and Greeks are genetically similar to south Slavs?

You^

Dick
07-21-2018, 04:00 AM
All modern Caucasoid people of Europe and Asia are a mix of major Cromagnon ancestry and minor Neanderthal.

How where all Cromagnons I2?

Do you understand that Cromagnid was the prototype from which most other Caucasoid phenotypes

Meds,Nordics... developed?

No. Cromagnons were WHG. For example Loschbour man was I2. Meds, nords were neolithic and steppe

Dick
07-21-2018, 04:02 AM
Cro-Magnons were I2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M438#Origin_&_prehistoric_presence

You are from counrty where is most dominant neolitic genetic, and you can only dream to be descendant of Cro-Magons.

Which country is the most paleo-European?

This is a better map

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gysum13GQwE/maxresdefault.jpg

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 04:05 AM
No. Cromagnons were WHG. For example Loschbour man was I2. Meds, nords were neolithic and steppe

Hm ok..

Will do some research about it

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 04:05 AM
You^

I never claimed such a thing.
Genetically Greeks and Albanians are close relatives and both are quite different from the south Slavs (easpecially southwestern Slavs).

Dick
07-21-2018, 04:08 AM
Hm ok..

Will do some research about it

Loschbour man from Luxembourg. I2


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/12/0c/37/120c372347597b806c0b0377e03d0295.jpg

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 04:08 AM
I never claimed such a thing.
Genetically Greeks and Albanians are close relatives and both are quite different from the south Slavs (easpecially southwestern Slavs).

By claiming there was big Slavic influence in Continental Greece or that there were Slavic invasions and alot of such settlements
using for example toponyms as a evidence for your claimes,what you often did in the past,
you implicitly did

Are you aware of it?

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 04:09 AM
This is a better map

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gysum13GQwE/maxresdefault.jpg

:thumb001:

I is only real European haplogroup, only one which is in Europe from the beginning of the beginning.

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 04:11 AM
By claiming there was big Slavic influence in Continental Greece or that there were Slavic invasions and alot of such settlements
using for example toponyms as a evidence for your claimes,what you often did in the past,
you implicitly did

Are you aware of it?

Slavic influence exist in Greece. The strongest is in Greek Macedonia.
But Slavic element is minority in Greek gene pool, it's not even dominant in Greek Macedonia where is the strongest.
Slavic input in Greece is something like Germanic input in Italy and Spain.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 04:17 AM
Slavic influence exist in Greece. The strongest is in Greek Macedonia.

Yes but not to the extend you and others fabled it to be in some discussions here^



But Slavic element is minority in Greeke gene poole, it's not even dominant in Greek Macedonia where is the strongest.


Exactly this^



Slavic input in Greece i something like Germanic input in Italy and Spain.

Very roughly though i would speculate given historical sources also that Germanic presence and influence in Northern Italy
was much stronger and persistent than Slavic in Greece.

Second,Greece has NW influence be it Germanic or Celtic too not only Slavic.
Not all Northern influence or ancestry in Greeks is Slavic or NE unlike what some people believe

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 04:25 AM
Yes but not to the extend you and others fabled it to be in some discussions here^




Exactly this^



Very roughly though i would speculate given historical sources also that Germanic presence and influence in Northern Italy
was much stronger and persistent than Slavic in Greece.

Second,Greece has NW influence be it Germanic or Celtic too not only Slavic.
Not all Northern influence or ancestry in Greeks is Slavic or NE unlike what some people believe

I thought whole Italy might have roughly similar Germanic influence as whole Greece Slavic influence.
Northern Italy might have similar Germanic influence such as Greek Macedonia have Slavic influence.

I don't know whether Italians are more Germanic or Greeks are more Slavic influenced on average.
Italians are more Germanic and Greeks are more Slavic than Spaniards are Germanic. Germanic influence is Spain is very weak.

Dick
07-21-2018, 04:30 AM
Haplgroup have nothing to do with height

Listen bud, it's pretty simple and straightforward without doing a study at all. Baltics have the most WHG autosmal dna(original haplogroup I men) but they do not have a lot of haplogroup I(mostly R1 and N) and are not one of the tallest in Europe for that matter. Lithuania does have a good basketball team though. The tallest men in Europe are Nordics and Southwest Slavs which have the most haplogroup I % in Europe so there is obviously a correlation.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 04:34 AM
I thought whole Italy might have roughly similar Germanic influence as whole Greece Slavic influence.
Northern Italy might have similar Germanic influence such as Greek Macedonia have Slavic influence.

I don't know whether Italians are more Germanic or Greeks are more Slavic influenced on average.
I think that Italians are more Germanic and Greeks are more Slavic than Spaniards are Germanic. Germanic influence is Spain is very very weak.


Well we don't have whole regions such as Lombardy in Italy named after Slavic tribes.

What we have maybe toponyms resembling those of Slavic places and some Slavified Greek toponym
like Anastasova for example.

What they mean exactly and how they arised is a multi facetted quest since after Slavs establishing some permanent presence in the Balkan regions
which are now South Slavic and after primarily clashes with the Byzantines they adopted Orthodox religion and Roman Byzantine type administration
and their cultures merged more with that of the Byzantines.

nightrider+
07-21-2018, 09:37 AM
Pure med


:rotfl:

Trilecce
07-21-2018, 09:54 AM
http://www.sdna.gr/files/1/Images/gkomenes-afierwmata/emmanuela%20kouklinou/6.jpg

http://www.sdna.gr/files/1/Images/gkomenes-afierwmata/emmanuela%20kouklinou/1.jpg

http://www.sdna.gr/files/1/Images/gkomenes-afierwmata/emmanuela%20kouklinou/11.jpg

https://lifeviews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/emanouela-kouklonou-13.jpg

http://menshouse.gr/media/2016/10/12509372_776022772531003_3580454837916055013_n-700x700.jpg

http://menshouse.gr/media/2016/10/10996674_633727166760565_1223472406640482894_n-700x642.jpg

https://lifeviews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/emanouela-kouklonou-23.jpg

https://cdn4.bbend.net/media/com_news/galleries/2015/04/13/25981/photos/full/14.jpg

https://cdn4.bbend.net/media/com_news/galleries/2015/04/13/25981/photos/full/12.jpg

Poutanoid with a large amount of malakismenoid.

Livin
07-21-2018, 10:51 AM
Poutanoid with a large amount of malakismenoid.


Indeed.

She looks like an escort or golddiger...


Btw i would fuck her to death.!

buxoro
07-21-2018, 10:58 AM
Pontid.


F8331 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi

Trilecce
07-21-2018, 01:31 PM
Indeed.

She looks like an escort or golddiger...


Btw i would fuck her to death.!

I really dont get it why women want to present themselves in this fashion. Especially in Greece where such a woman can be bought for 20€.

Trilecce
07-21-2018, 01:32 PM
Indeed.

She looks like an escort or golddiger...


Btw i would fuck her to death.!

I really dont get it why women want to present themselves in this fashion. Especially in Greece where such a woman can be bought for 20€.

Papastratosels26
07-21-2018, 01:33 PM
Pontid-Alpine.

Kamal900
07-21-2018, 01:46 PM
Pontid and Alpine. Nothing Slavic about her. She just dyed her hair.

averagedude
07-21-2018, 02:09 PM
Pontid with dyed hair.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:15 PM
I2 is not only Cro-magnon haplo but combine paleolithic,neolithic and indoeuropean(paleobalkan thraco-dacian).

Both albania and greece took it from Yugoslavs.

Basal I2* (I-M438*) has been found in ancient remains from Frankthi cave, in the eastern Peloponnese region of Greece. Along with its modern presence in Crete and Sicily, this may suggest that the haplogroup originated in the Eastern Mediterranean

Alii
07-21-2018, 02:23 PM
:rotfl: Here it is once again


http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg

The study is totally outdated and nonsense. It doesn't serve any proof whatsoever, it just picks certain areas that are tall and happen to be hg I while leaving out areas that are tall and lack hg I or even areas that are short and have a lot of hg I and somehow presents it as evidence.

We know the frequency of ydna's in modern populations are due to bottleneck effects. A people that are high in I doesn't mean they are autosomally hunter gatherers for example, take Sardinians as an example.

Height and physical characteristics are more related to race and diet which can be seen if you study anthropology. Certain races are biologically taller than others.

Those nations are tall because they have Nordic influence and also Borreby and Atlanto Meditenarrean which are biologically tall races and not because their ydna is hg I which can be due to a bottle neck.

Alpines are biologically short and probably were hg I.

You can also see some people from Afghanistan are tall due to a Meditarrean element called Irano Afghan.

The study, which isn't even a study, is absolutely nonsense and easily debunked.

You can even find ''studies'' that argue smoking is healthy.

Some of those nations have also high intake of meat and dairy products which contain growth hormones and make you taller but they are also cancer promoting which is why some of those tallest nations also have the highest rates of cancer in the world , such as Norway , Sweden , Netherlands are good examples.


Even Montenegro was like in the top 30 of highest cancer rates if my memory serves well.

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:36 PM
The study is totally outdated and nonsense. It doesn't serve any proof whatsoever, it just picks certain areas that are tall and happen to be hg I while leaving out areas that are tall and lack hg I or even areas that are short and have a lot of hg I and somehow presents it as evidence.

We know the frequency of ydna's in modern populations are due to bottleneck effects. A people that are high in I doesn't mean they are autosomally hunter gatherers for example, take Sardinians as an example.

Height and physical characteristics are more related to race and diet which can be seen if you study anthropology. Certain races are biologically taller than others.

Those nations are tall because they have Nordic influence and also Borreby and Atlanto Meditenarrean which are biologically tall races and not because their ydna is hg I which can be due to a bottle neck.

Alpines are biologically short and probably were hg I.

You can also see some people from Afghanistan are tall due to a Meditarrean element called Irano Afghan.

The study, which isn't even a study, is absolutely nonsense and easily debunked.

You can even find ''studies'' that argue smoking is healthy.

Some of those nations have also high intake of meat and dairy products which contain growth hormones and make you taller but they are also cancer promoting which is why some of those tallest nations also have the highest rates of cancer.


+1 , disagree only about Nordic race in them.
They are tall because they are Dinaric race and this race are taller than Nordics

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:41 PM
Cro-Magnons were I2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M438#Origin_&_prehistoric_presence

You are from counrty where is most dominant neolitic genetic, and you can only dream to be descendant of Cro-Magons.

Which country is the most paleo-European?
https://aryanity.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/chapter-3-figure3.jpg

Look idiot when i say CM i see it only in Phenotype with strong chin and deep set eyes in Doli skull individuals.
People like this dont exist in west balkans or they are very few.

If cromagnons look like the man you posted , then its better to keep them there . LOL

Gangrel
07-21-2018, 02:43 PM
Pontid

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 02:45 PM
The study is totally outdated and nonsense. It doesn't serve any proof whatsoever, it just picks certain areas that are tall and happen to be hg I while leaving out areas that are tall and lack hg I or even areas that are short and have a lot of hg I and somehow presents it as evidence.

We know the frequency of ydna's in modern populations are due to bottleneck effects. A people that are high in I doesn't mean they are autosomally hunter gatherers for example, take Sardinians as an example.

Height and physical characteristics are more related to race and diet which can be seen if you study anthropology. Certain races are biologically taller than others.

Those nations are tall because they have Nordic influence and also Borreby and Atlanto Meditenarrean which are biologically tall races and not because their ydna is hg I which can be due to a bottle neck.

Alpines are biologically short and probably were hg I.

You can also see some people from Afghanistan are tall due to a Meditarrean element called Irano Afghan.

The study, which isn't even a study, is absolutely nonsense and easily debunked.

You can even find ''studies'' that argue smoking is healthy.

Some of those nations have also high intake of meat and dairy products which contain growth hormones and make you taller but they are also cancer promoting which is why some of those tallest nations also have the highest rates of cancer in the world , such as Norway , Sweden , Netherlands are good examples.


Even Montenegro was like in the top 30 of highest cancer rates if my memory serves well.

I2 reaches peak in Herzegovina, and Herzegovinians are the tallast people in the world. Deal with it!
http://bosnjackidnk.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/osnovna-bez-autorskih-prava-I2.jpg
https://www.acsh.org/sites/default/files/Herzegovinians.jpg

I is superior haplogroup. :coffee:

DarknessWin
07-21-2018, 02:56 PM
Wrong, he has CM influence.

Same as second Bosnian actor
https://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/tinypic10/Kostic/ae359778.jpg

Where his chin ??? Chin not found

frdfgcg
07-21-2018, 03:00 PM
Pontid and Alpine. Nothing Slavic about her. She just dyed her hair.

Wannabe Baltic girl.
In Greece there are many true Baltic girls from Ukraine.
She just loses them the competition.
Just compare.
This true Baltic girl.
https://24smi.org/public/media/2017/3/1/01_hztDqof.jpg

Pribislav
07-21-2018, 03:54 PM
Where his chin ??? Chin not found


You are realy blind.
His photo from the younger days, here CM influence is more visible
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/tinypic10/Kostic/0656e25b.jpg

Bosnian footballer with clearly CM influence (very common face in Bosnia)
https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/250012196.jpg
https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01621/asmir-begovic_1621228c.jpg

Alii
07-21-2018, 09:53 PM
+1 , disagree only about Nordic race in them.
They are tall because they are Dinaric race and this race are taller than Nordics

Dinaric is a hybrid type. Some Dinarics are tall because they are Nordic or Atlanto Mediterranean, but in a Dinaricized form. Dinaricization itself doesn't make you tall neither is it a race or phenotype. Actually the ultimate Dinaricized person is only of average height. You can disagree all you want but it is the truth backed up by legitimate anthropology and not pseudoscience like humanphenotypes.com.

Tauromachos
07-21-2018, 11:44 PM
Wannabe Baltic girl.

She is not Wannabe Baltic no Greek here claimed her Baltic or Slavic looking only
some of your Slavic cousins from the Balkans did



In Greece there are many true Baltic girls from Ukraine.


Exactly^

There are many Baltics in Greece and they are from Ukraine,Russia and Poland.
Baltics among Greek Natives don't exist or are very rare

DarknessWin
07-22-2018, 12:37 AM
You are realy blind.
His photo from the younger days, here CM influence is more visible
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/tinypic10/Kostic/0656e25b.jpg

Bosnian footballer with clearly CM influence (very common face in Bosnia)
https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/250012196.jpg
https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01621/asmir-begovic_1621228c.jpg

The most common there are the Dinarics , i see not cromagnoids.
Also dont forget that CroMagnon 1 was exactly the same skull with Greece Bronze age
and closer to modern Greece too

p.s. The cromagnon mix in modern humans are also just speculation and pseudoscience.
Actually we call CM mixed every phenotype with strong chin

DarknessWin
07-22-2018, 12:40 AM
Wannabe Baltic girl.
In Greece there are many true Baltic girls from Ukraine.
She just loses them the competition.
Just compare.
This true Baltic girl.
https://24smi.org/public/media/2017/3/1/01_hztDqof.jpg


The cretan girl look 10 times better than this asian cheekbones whore

frdfgcg
07-22-2018, 12:50 AM
The cretan girl look 10 times better than this asian cheekbones whore

Actually she looks worse than any average Baltic girl.
A fake can't be better than the original.
:)

kleenex
07-22-2018, 01:31 AM
Actually she looks worse than any average Baltic girl.
A fake can't be better than the original.
:)

She's not Baltic looking. That's why this morphology thing is so ridiculous at times. If we saw her genetic results she would have less than 5% Baltic.

frdfgcg
07-22-2018, 02:04 AM
She's not Baltic looking. That's why this morphology thing is so ridiculous at times. If we saw her genetic results she would have less than 5% Baltic.

Of course not.
She has dark eyes, dyed hair and she has no Asian cheekbones.
These girls are true Baltic girls.
https://st.kp.yandex.net/im/kadr/3/0/0/kinopoisk.ru-Yelena-Olkina-3002349.jpg
http://m.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/1073/381142.jpg
http://tvperson.ru/2015/11/anastasija-stezhko-013-682x1024.jpg
http://cp16.nevsepic.com.ua/269/26852/1462292320-031.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/df/69/42df695d9f12dfc81c0168e1efe6d241.jpg

kleenex
07-22-2018, 02:09 AM
Of course not.
She has dark eyes, dyed hair and she has no Asian cheekbones.
These girls are true Baltic girls.
https://st.kp.yandex.net/im/kadr/3/0/0/kinopoisk.ru-Yelena-Olkina-3002349.jpg
http://m.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/1073/381142.jpg
http://tvperson.ru/2015/11/anastasija-stezhko-013-682x1024.jpg
http://cp16.nevsepic.com.ua/269/26852/1462292320-031.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/df/69/42df695d9f12dfc81c0168e1efe6d241.jpg

I agree. Those seem more like typical Baltids. On the mainland the Baltic input is slightly higher but there are no true Baltids in a phenotypical sense.

DarknessWin
07-22-2018, 02:14 AM
Actually she looks worse than any average Baltic girl.
A fake can't be better than the original.
:)

First of all the girl dont try to look Baltid idiot ,
and yes she is way hotter

Tauromachos
07-22-2018, 02:14 AM
I agree. Those seem more like typical Baltids. On the mainland the Baltic input is slightly higher but there are no true Baltids in a phenotypical sense.

Correct^
The Mainland Greek people that some people perceive as Slavic or Eastern European looking are mostly
light Pontid types"North Pontids" and sometimes Alpine types

kleenex
07-22-2018, 02:23 AM
Correct^
The Mainland Greek people that some people perceive as Slavic or Eastern European looking are mostly
light Pontid types"North Pontids" and sometimes Alpine types

Yes you're right.

Odin
08-03-2018, 11:23 AM
Pontid + Alpine.

arkas
08-03-2018, 12:15 PM
She can pass in Crete I think, it's just her dyed hair that throws people off. Greeks sometimes have dark golden blonde hair but not this light.

Med + Alpinid

CommonSense
08-03-2018, 01:03 PM
Pontid + Alpine

Zeno
11-29-2019, 02:12 PM
Vast majority of Greek I2 and R1a is Slavic heritage.

Are you I-CTS10228?

No, it is not. R1a and I2 frequencies are 25% and 15% respectively, while Slavic influence is at <10% in total.

Zeno
11-29-2019, 02:13 PM
She can pass in Crete I think, it's just her dyed hair that throws people off. Greeks sometimes have dark golden blonde hair but not this light.

Med + Alpinid

They can have, but less than 10% have light blond hair.

As for the girl, Pontid+Alpine.

Davy Jones's Locker
12-01-2019, 12:26 PM
Alpine-Mediterranean.

21993
12-01-2019, 12:30 PM
Pontid

Zeno
12-01-2019, 12:37 PM
Her hair, now that I've examined the eyebrows and roots, are naturally light brown to dark blonde. She just dyed it platinum blonde.