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Babak
07-23-2018, 12:10 AM
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 30.68
2 Southwest_Asian 25.72
3 Mediterranean 22.68
4 West_European 5.27
5 South_Asian 4.95
6 East_African 3.28
7 Northwest_African 2.90
8 Southeast_Asian 1.51
9 Neo_African 1.30
10 Palaeo_African 1.21

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians @ 6.561443
2 Palestinian @ 7.495962
3 Jordanians_19 @ 8.072948
4 Lebanese @ 8.883910
5 Georgia_Jews @ 10.365720
6 Samaritians @ 12.490030
7 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 12.741411
8 Iranian_Jews @ 12.874392
9 Iraq_Jews @ 13.507172
10 Druze @ 15.687428
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 16.252089
12 Egypt @ 16.604977
13 Kurd @ 17.222393
14 Kurd @ 18.470303
15 Yemenese @ 18.584024
16 Iranians @ 20.212643
17 Bedouin @ 20.216969
18 Morocco_Jews @ 20.550797
19 Egyptans @ 21.420206
20 Turkish @ 22.252321

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bedouin +50% Kurd @ 4.122725

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bedouin +25% Kurd +25% Turkish @ 3.427567


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bedouin + Iranians + Morocco_Jews + Syrians @ 2.341725
2 Bedouin + Iranians + Jordanians_19 + Morocco_Jews @ 3.085062
3 Bedouin + Jordanians_19 + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 3.138575
4 Bedouin + Palestinian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 3.140055
5 Bedouin + Jordanians_19 + Kurd + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 3.219998

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 43.19
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 36.73
3 Atlantic_Baltic 9.42
4 African 4.85
5 South_Asian 3.32
6 East_Asian 1.23


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians @ 2.374043
2 Lebanese @ 3.678474
3 Druze @ 6.310318
4 Jordanians @ 7.021169
5 Palestinian @ 8.461926
6 Georgia_Jews @ 9.429297
7 Cypriots @ 12.466741
8 Iraq_Jews @ 12.942451
9 Assyrian @ 13.448526
10 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 13.615542
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 13.900473
12 Samaritians @ 14.874146
13 Iranian_Jews @ 15.018031
14 Armenian @ 15.352442
15 Armenians @ 16.196079
16 Turkish @ 17.509266
17 Turks @ 17.655180
18 Armenians @ 17.905697
19 Iranians @ 18.323597
20 Saudis @ 18.871210

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrians +50% Syrians @ 2.374043


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian +25% Iranians +25% Lebanese @ 1.767196


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Iranian + Cypriots + Samaritians + Yemenese @ 1.630852
2 Iranian + Bedouin + Lebanese + Lebanese @ 1.631962
3 Palestinian + Palestinian + Iranians + Lebanese @ 1.767196
4 Turkish + Palestinian + Iranians + Saudis @ 1.899837
5 Turkish + Egyptans + Iranians + Samaritians @ 1.928868
6 Iranian + Bedouin + Lebanese + Syrians @ 1.931456
7 Turkish + Bedouin + Palestinian + Iranians @ 1.933484

3-MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.72
2 Near_East 23.20
3 South_Central_Asian 15.20
4 North_African 8.74
5 European_Early_Farmers 7.55
6 East_African 2.47
7 South_East_Asian 1.78
8 Amerindian 1.23
9 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.08



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Muslim_Arabs_Israel @ 4.845485
2 Syrian @ 5.934178
3 Lebanese @ 8.248902
4 Iraki @ 9.029829
5 Samaritian @ 9.063564
6 Palestinian @ 9.321225
7 Jordanian @ 9.532074
8 Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.767141
9 Iraqi_Mandean @ 10.233442
10 Iraqi_Chaldean @ 10.810952
11 Iranian_Jew @ 11.943400
12 Kurd_Jew @ 11.964556
13 Iraqi_Jew @ 12.392058
14 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 13.429757
15 BedouinA @ 13.459680
16 Syrian_Jew @ 13.505630
17 Turk_Adana @ 13.739388
18 Uzbekistani_Jew @ 14.185684
19 Lebanese_Druze @ 14.304486
20 Ain_Touta_WGA @ 14.586428

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% BedouinA +50% Iraqi_Mandean @ 4.201091


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% BedouinA +25% Iraqi_Mandean +25% Kurd @ 3.244366
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 BedouinA + Iranian + Muslim_Arabs_Israel + Samaritian @ 3.151374
2 BedouinA + BedouinA + Iraqi_Mandean + Kurd @ 3.244366
3 BedouinA + BedouinA + Iraqi_Mandean + Kurd_South @ 3.258976
4 BedouinA + BedouinA + Iraqi_Mandean + Kurd_East @ 3.268077
5 BedouinA + Kurd + Muslim_Arabs_Israel + Muslim_Arabs_Israel @ 3.295685

4-MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 33.11
2 Near_East 31.37
3 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 21.09
4 Sub-Saharian 3.44
5 North-East-European 2.51
6 Indian 1.89
7 Indo-Tibetan 1.81
8 Indo-Iranian 1.71
9 Mesoamerican 1.38


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrian @ 3.396160
2 Lebanese @ 4.640185
3 Druze @ 7.322930
4 Iraqi @ 7.989832
5 Jordanian @ 8.988935
6 Palestinian @ 9.941213
7 Jew_Georgia @ 10.603319
8 Jew_Syria @ 11.059001
9 Jew-Iraqi @ 13.121327
10 Jew_Iraqi @ 13.585979
11 Samaritian @ 14.282506
12 Cypriot @ 14.546145
13 Jew_Kurd @ 14.803508
14 Jew-Iran @ 14.867816
15 Jew-Uzbekistan @ 15.472799
16 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 16.092585
17 Jew_Tat @ 17.113186
18 Jew_Tunisia @ 17.285900
19 Jew_Libya @ 17.438995
20 Turk @ 17.926947

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +50% Syrian @ 3.396160


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian +25% Syrian +25% Turk @ 2.866558


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Iraqi + Kurd @ 2.406818
2 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Azerbaijan + Kurd @ 2.517558
3 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Iranian + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.652926
4 Armenian + Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.679335
5 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Kurd + Kurd @ 2.745589
6 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Tat + Kurd @ 2.751144
7 Iranian + Jew_Libya + Palestinian + Syrian @ 2.752105
8 Ashkenazim + Jew-Iran + Jew_Iraqi + Yemen @ 2.759728
9 Ashkenazim + Egyptian + Jew_Kurd + Jew_Kurd @ 2.763937
10 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew-Iraqi + Kurd @ 2.770139

Joso
07-23-2018, 12:11 AM
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 30.68
2 Southwest_Asian 25.72
3 Mediterranean 22.68
4 West_European 5.27
5 South_Asian 4.95
6 East_African 3.28
7 Northwest_African 2.90
8 Southeast_Asian 1.51
9 Neo_African 1.30
10 Palaeo_African 1.21

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians @ 6.561443
2 Palestinian @ 7.495962
3 Jordanians_19 @ 8.072948
4 Lebanese @ 8.883910
5 Georgia_Jews @ 10.365720
6 Samaritians @ 12.490030
7 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 12.741411
8 Iranian_Jews @ 12.874392
9 Iraq_Jews @ 13.507172
10 Druze @ 15.687428
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 16.252089
12 Egypt @ 16.604977
13 Kurd @ 17.222393
14 Kurd @ 18.470303
15 Yemenese @ 18.584024
16 Iranians @ 20.212643
17 Bedouin @ 20.216969
18 Morocco_Jews @ 20.550797
19 Egyptans @ 21.420206
20 Turkish @ 22.252321

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bedouin +50% Kurd @ 4.122725

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bedouin +25% Kurd +25% Turkish @ 3.427567


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bedouin + Iranians + Morocco_Jews + Syrians @ 2.341725
2 Bedouin + Iranians + Jordanians_19 + Morocco_Jews @ 3.085062
3 Bedouin + Jordanians_19 + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 3.138575
4 Bedouin + Palestinian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 3.140055
5 Bedouin + Jordanians_19 + Kurd + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 3.219998

2-Dodecad World9 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 43.19
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 36.73
3 Atlantic_Baltic 9.42
4 African 4.85
5 South_Asian 3.32
6 East_Asian 1.23


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrians @ 2.374043
2 Lebanese @ 3.678474
3 Druze @ 6.310318
4 Jordanians @ 7.021169
5 Palestinian @ 8.461926
6 Georgia_Jews @ 9.429297
7 Cypriots @ 12.466741
8 Iraq_Jews @ 12.942451
9 Assyrian @ 13.448526
10 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 13.615542
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 13.900473
12 Samaritians @ 14.874146
13 Iranian_Jews @ 15.018031
14 Armenian @ 15.352442
15 Armenians @ 16.196079
16 Turkish @ 17.509266
17 Turks @ 17.655180
18 Armenians @ 17.905697
19 Iranians @ 18.323597
20 Saudis @ 18.871210

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrians +50% Syrians @ 2.374043


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian +25% Iranians +25% Lebanese @ 1.767196


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Iranian + Cypriots + Samaritians + Yemenese @ 1.630852
2 Iranian + Bedouin + Lebanese + Lebanese @ 1.631962
3 Palestinian + Palestinian + Iranians + Lebanese @ 1.767196
4 Turkish + Palestinian + Iranians + Saudis @ 1.899837
5 Turkish + Egyptans + Iranians + Samaritians @ 1.928868
6 Iranian + Bedouin + Lebanese + Syrians @ 1.931456
7 Turkish + Bedouin + Palestinian + Iranians @ 1.933484

3-MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.72
2 Near_East 23.20
3 South_Central_Asian 15.20
4 North_African 8.74
5 European_Early_Farmers 7.55
6 East_African 2.47
7 South_East_Asian 1.78
8 Amerindian 1.23
9 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.08



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Muslim_Arabs_Israel @ 4.845485
2 Syrian @ 5.934178
3 Lebanese @ 8.248902
4 Iraki @ 9.029829
5 Samaritian @ 9.063564
6 Palestinian @ 9.321225
7 Jordanian @ 9.532074
8 Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.767141
9 Iraqi_Mandean @ 10.233442
10 Iraqi_Chaldean @ 10.810952
11 Iranian_Jew @ 11.943400
12 Kurd_Jew @ 11.964556
13 Iraqi_Jew @ 12.392058
14 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 13.429757
15 BedouinA @ 13.459680
16 Syrian_Jew @ 13.505630
17 Turk_Adana @ 13.739388
18 Uzbekistani_Jew @ 14.185684
19 Lebanese_Druze @ 14.304486
20 Ain_Touta_WGA @ 14.586428

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% BedouinA +50% Iraqi_Mandean @ 4.201091


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% BedouinA +25% Iraqi_Mandean +25% Kurd @ 3.244366
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 BedouinA + Iranian + Muslim_Arabs_Israel + Samaritian @ 3.151374
2 BedouinA + BedouinA + Iraqi_Mandean + Kurd @ 3.244366
3 BedouinA + BedouinA + Iraqi_Mandean + Kurd_South @ 3.258976
4 BedouinA + BedouinA + Iraqi_Mandean + Kurd_East @ 3.268077
5 BedouinA + Kurd + Muslim_Arabs_Israel + Muslim_Arabs_Israel @ 3.295685

4-MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 33.11
2 Near_East 31.37
3 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 21.09
4 Sub-Saharian 3.44
5 North-East-European 2.51
6 Indian 1.89
7 Indo-Tibetan 1.81
8 Indo-Iranian 1.71
9 Mesoamerican 1.38


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrian @ 3.396160
2 Lebanese @ 4.640185
3 Druze @ 7.322930
4 Iraqi @ 7.989832
5 Jordanian @ 8.988935
6 Palestinian @ 9.941213
7 Jew_Georgia @ 10.603319
8 Jew_Syria @ 11.059001
9 Jew-Iraqi @ 13.121327
10 Jew_Iraqi @ 13.585979
11 Samaritian @ 14.282506
12 Cypriot @ 14.546145
13 Jew_Kurd @ 14.803508
14 Jew-Iran @ 14.867816
15 Jew-Uzbekistan @ 15.472799
16 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 16.092585
17 Jew_Tat @ 17.113186
18 Jew_Tunisia @ 17.285900
19 Jew_Libya @ 17.438995
20 Turk @ 17.926947

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +50% Syrian @ 3.396160


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian +25% Syrian +25% Turk @ 2.866558


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Iraqi + Kurd @ 2.406818
2 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Azerbaijan + Kurd @ 2.517558
3 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Iranian + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.652926
4 Armenian + Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.679335
5 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Kurd + Kurd @ 2.745589
6 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew_Tat + Kurd @ 2.751144
7 Iranian + Jew_Libya + Palestinian + Syrian @ 2.752105
8 Ashkenazim + Jew-Iran + Jew_Iraqi + Yemen @ 2.759728
9 Ashkenazim + Egyptian + Jew_Kurd + Jew_Kurd @ 2.763937
10 Ashkenazim + Bedouin + Jew-Iraqi + Kurd @ 2.770139

Cool! Are a lot of bedouins mixed with jews?

Babak
07-23-2018, 12:12 AM
Cool! Are a lot of bedouins mixed with jews?

It looks like theyve mixed with Iranians and kurds instead This is someone from Southern Iraq btw

Aren
07-23-2018, 12:24 AM
It looks like theyve mixed with Iranians and kurds instead This is someone from Southern Iraq btw

Indeed even Bedouins from Southern Iraq seem Iranian shifted, interesting. Post his/her Eurogenes K13.

Hadouken
07-23-2018, 12:26 AM
He comes out syrian mostly

there is no iranian shift . Only because he gets iranian here and there in the mixed mode it doesnt mean that he has iranian ancestry

Edit; nevermind i checked again he does have it

Babak
07-23-2018, 12:26 AM
Indeed even Bedouins from Southern Iraq seem Iranian shifted, interesting. Post his/her Eurogenes K13.

Couldn't find her K13. This is all there is.

Also, heres this: Iraqi bedouin from Southern Iraq.

T644104 Mustafa Alsa3idi (IQ-Maysan)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.03
2 West_Asian 23.07
3 Red_Sea 19.73
4 South_Asian 8.08
5 West_Med 4.43
6 Northeast_African 3.05
7 Sub-Saharan 2.76
8 Baltic 1.94
9 Oceanian 0.8
10 Siberian 0.1

51.2% Iranian + 48.8% Saudi @ 3.6

Ahmad Nima Alhasnawi (IQ-Maysan)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.35
2 West_Asian 24.44
3 Red_Sea 17.39
4 South_Asian 7.56
5 West_Med 6.2
6 Northeast_African 4.48
7 North_Atlantic 2.89
8 Sub-Saharan 0.58
9 East_Asian 0.11

55.5% Iranian + 44.5% Saudi @ 4.7

StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 12:28 AM
It's clear he is not pure Bedouin. My mom has very different result and is genetically identical to Saudis and Yemenite Jews.

Babak
07-23-2018, 12:30 AM
It's clear he is not pure Bedouin. My mom has very different result and is genetically identical to Saudis and Yemenite Jews.

Wanna see more?

T762886 J-Z1842 Z. Shabana (IQ-Diwaniya)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.44
2 West_Asian 21.84
3 Red_Sea 17.18
4 West_Med 7.13
5 South_Asian 6.86
6 Northeast_African 4.9
7 Baltic 3.73
8 Sub-Saharan 1.65
9 Oceanian 0.27

66.4% Bedouin + 33.6% Iranian @ 3.58


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Al-Qadisiyyah_in_Iraq.svg/471px-Al-Qadisiyyah_in_Iraq.svg.png

StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 12:30 AM
It looks like theyve mixed with Iranians and kurds instead This is someone from Southern Iraq btw

Najaf, Karbala and khanakin but not western Iraq.

StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 12:34 AM
Wanna see more?

T762886 J-Z1842 Z. Shabana (IQ-Diwaniya)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.44
2 West_Asian 21.84
3 Red_Sea 17.18
4 West_Med 7.13
5 South_Asian 6.86
6 Northeast_African 4.9
7 Baltic 3.73
8 Sub-Saharan 1.65
9 Oceanian 0.27

66.4% Bedouin + 33.6% Iranian @ 3.58


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Al-Qadisiyyah_in_Iraq.svg/471px-Al-Qadisiyyah_in_Iraq.svg.png

You realize some of the tribes there are Iranian ? Shabana is not an Arabian tribal name for example. Real Bedouins don't score Iranian. They are mixed. Explain my mom's result why she is close to Saudis and shows no Iranian but rather Egyptian and Yemeni like shift ?

Babak
07-23-2018, 12:36 AM
You realize some of the tribes there are Iranian ? Shabana is not an Arabian tribal name for example. Real Bedouins don't score Iranian. They are mixed. Explain my mom's result why she is close to Saudis and shows no Iranian but rather Egyptian and Yemeni like shift ?

So like this one?

Western Iraqi:

1 East_Med 36.81
2 West_Asian 22.72
3 Red_Sea 13.92
4 West_Med 8.95
5 South_Asian 5.51
6 North_Atlantic 3.39
7 Sub-Saharan 2.35
8 Baltic 1.85
9 Siberian 1.68
10 Northeast_African 1.41
11 East_Asian 1.19
12 Oceanian 0.13
13 Amerindian 0.1

Syrian 5.29

64.4% Palestinian + 35.6% Iranian @ 3.58

happycow
07-23-2018, 12:39 AM
Palestinian in top 10 interesting...

zarzian
07-23-2018, 12:44 AM
You realize some of the tribes there are Iranian ? Shabana is not an Arabian tribal name for example. Real Bedouins don't score Iranian. They are mixed. Explain my mom's result why she is close to Saudis and shows no Iranian but rather Egyptian and Yemeni like shift ?

Iranians have been in Iraq way before Bedouins, you know better then most that bedouins are new arrivals in Iraq, only since mongol Invasion.

Aren
07-23-2018, 12:45 AM
The samples from the Iraqi Project, sampled and tested by an Iraqi Arab himself btw most of them show clear Iranian shift, some are even more Iranian than Bedouin in the mixed mode and it's not few samples either.
Iraqi Bedouins are insignificant in this context, they make up less than 5% of the total Arab population in Iraq.

Mani
07-23-2018, 12:45 AM
Here are my results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.55
2 West_Asian 29.96
3 Red_Sea 11.86
4 West_Med 8.44
5 South_Asian 7.75
6 North_Atlantic 4.21
7 Baltic 2.79
8 Northeast_African 2.56

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri @ 9.863974
2 Turkish @ 10.285886
3 Georgian_Jewish @ 11.178029
4 Assyrian @ 11.380733
5 Iranian @ 11.423591
6 Iranian_Jewish @ 11.522337
7 Kurdish_Jewish @ 12.245466
8 Kurdish @ 12.628536
9 Syrian @ 12.739319
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.304923
11 Armenian @ 13.656355
12 Jordanian @ 17.516115
13 Cyprian @ 19.704109
14 Palestinian @ 19.944553
15 Lebanese_Druze @ 20.613678
16 Lebanese_Christian @ 21.121506
17 Bedouin @ 21.216579
18 Samaritan @ 21.340792
19 Turkmen @ 21.684717
20 Kumyk @ 23.381710

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 3.525931

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +25% Saudi +25% Turkish @ 3.448715

I can provide 23andme results if you are interested.

Aren
07-23-2018, 12:47 AM
Iranians have been in Iraq way before Bedouins, you know better then most that bedouins are new arrivals in Iraq, only since mongol Invasion.

The bulk of the population of modern day Iraq is post-Mongol invasions. Which is why Iraqi Arabs turn out as a mix of Iranians/Kurds + Bedouins and not say Mandean/Assyrian/Iraqi Jewish + Bedouin. There's no Mesopotamian blood in modern Iraqi Arabs, not even those from around Mosul and Tigrit.

Babak
07-23-2018, 12:47 AM
The samples from the Iraqi Project, sampled and tested by an Iraqi Arab himself btw most of them show clear Iranian shift, some are even more Iranian than Bedouin in the mixed mode and it's not few samples either.
Iraqi Bedouins are insignificant in this context, they make up less than 5% of the total Arab population in Iraq.

We can safely say they're a mix of Iranians and natives.

Mani
07-23-2018, 12:48 AM
Iranians have been in Iraq way before Bedouins, you know better then most that bedouins are new arrivals in Iraq, only since mongol Invasion.

Exactly, thank you :)

StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 12:53 AM
So like this one?

Western Iraqi:

1 East_Med 36.81
2 West_Asian 22.72
3 Red_Sea 13.92
4 West_Med 8.95
5 South_Asian 5.51
6 North_Atlantic 3.39
7 Sub-Saharan 2.35
8 Baltic 1.85
9 Siberian 1.68
10 Northeast_African 1.41
11 East_Asian 1.19
12 Oceanian 0.13
13 Amerindian 0.1

Syrian 5.29

64.4% Palestinian + 35.6% Iranian @ 3.58

No this guy or girl has some Iranian ancestry, and probably Kurdish.

It would be more like this:

50% Saudi 50% Yemenite Jew
60% Yemenite Jew 30% Palestinian
50% Saudi 25% Lebanese Muslim 25% Palestinian
49% Egyptian 25% Yemeni 26% Palestinian
50% Yemeni 25% Yemenite Jew 25% Lebanese Muslim

This would be more accurate and this how my mom scores lol.

Babak
07-23-2018, 12:54 AM
Using Iraqi bedouins to generalize the entire Iraqi population isn't very accurate anyways since they're very little in number and live in isolated locations. Its like using Persian lurs to determine the average Iranian dna lmao. There's no denying strong Iranian influence all over Iraq culturally, genetically, and even to an extent, linguistically.

Dude, even sunni arabs score some type of Iranian ancestry lol.

zarzian
07-23-2018, 01:00 AM
The bulk of the population of modern day Iraq is post-Mongol invasions. Which is why Iraqi Arabs turn out as a mix of Iranians/Kurds + Bedouins and not say Mandean/Assyrian/Iraqi Jewish + Bedouin. There's no Mesopotamian blood in modern Iraqi Arabs, not even those from around Mosul and Tigrit.

I don't believe that the Mongols exterminated 100% of the population, surely there still exists some Mesopotamian blood in Iraq.

StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 01:12 AM
Using Iraqi bedouins to generalize the entire Iraqi population isn't very accurate anyways since they're very little in number and live in isolated locations. Its like using Persian lurs to determine the average Iranian dna lmao. There's no denying strong Iranian influence all over Iraq culturally, genetically, and even to an extent, linguistically.

Dude, even sunni arabs score some type of Iranian ancestry lol.

It's highly doubtful Sunni Arabs are hostile to anything Persian to be honest. If there is some Iranian ancestry it came via the Black and White sheep, Safavid, and Afshars. The Persian impact is probably from those times, and not from earlier times, especially considering the Mongol invasion. Of course my mom could be an outlier but she seems to be very pure Arabian.

Iranian influence exist in the center and east, but not in the West, Levantine and Arabian influence exist more so, well in the far south the people are culturally very similar to the Gulfers.

zarzian
07-23-2018, 01:29 AM
It's highly doubtful Sunni Arabs are hostile to anything Persian to be honest. If there is some Iranian ancestry it came via the Black and White sheep, Safavid, and Afshars. The Persian impact is probably from those times, and not from earlier times, especially considering the Mongol invasion. Of course my mom could be an outlier but she seems to be very pure Arabian.

Iranian influence exist in the center and east, but not in the West, Levantine and Arabian influence exist more so, well in the far south the people are culturally very similar to the Gulfers.

Iraqi territory was heavily Persianized during the Sassanian era, Tisfun (Baghdad) was the Sassanian capital. So Persian presence predates Bedouin.

Babak
07-23-2018, 01:35 AM
It's highly doubtful Sunni Arabs are hostile to anything Persian to be honest. If there is some Iranian ancestry it came via the Black and White sheep, Safavid, and Afshars. The Persian impact is probably from those times, and not from earlier times, especially considering the Mongol invasion. Of course my mom could be an outlier but she seems to be very pure Arabian.

Iranian influence exist in the center and east, but not in the West, Levantine and Arabian influence exist more so, well in the far south the people are culturally very similar to the Gulfers.Persians were already present in Iraq though.

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StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 02:07 AM
Here are my results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.55
2 West_Asian 29.96
3 Red_Sea 11.86
4 West_Med 8.44
5 South_Asian 7.75
6 North_Atlantic 4.21
7 Baltic 2.79
8 Northeast_African 2.56

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri @ 9.863974
2 Turkish @ 10.285886
3 Georgian_Jewish @ 11.178029
4 Assyrian @ 11.380733
5 Iranian @ 11.423591
6 Iranian_Jewish @ 11.522337
7 Kurdish_Jewish @ 12.245466
8 Kurdish @ 12.628536
9 Syrian @ 12.739319
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.304923
11 Armenian @ 13.656355
12 Jordanian @ 17.516115
13 Cyprian @ 19.704109
14 Palestinian @ 19.944553
15 Lebanese_Druze @ 20.613678
16 Lebanese_Christian @ 21.121506
17 Bedouin @ 21.216579
18 Samaritan @ 21.340792
19 Turkmen @ 21.684717
20 Kumyk @ 23.381710

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 3.525931

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish +25% Saudi +25% Turkish @ 3.448715

I can provide 23andme results if you are interested.

You are basically Iranian with some Turko-Anatolian shift with some some Arabian ancestry. This why you are closer to Azeris than proper Persians/Iranians and also seem to be Arabian/Semitic shifted. I believe you are an outlier in the Iraqi context especially given your regional background.

Joso
07-23-2018, 02:08 AM
It's clear he is not pure Bedouin. My mom has very different result and is genetically identical to Saudis and Yemenite Jews.

cool

Pahli
07-23-2018, 02:09 AM
Many of those Iraqi Project samples might not even be from ethnic Iraqis but also Kurds, there's a good possibility that some of them are Feyli Kurdish samples, because some of those samples were almost non-Arab admixed Iranians / Kurds.

Babak
07-23-2018, 02:11 AM
Many of those Iraqi Project samples might not even be from ethnic Iraqis but also Kurds, there's a good possibility that some of them are Feyli Kurdish samples, because some of those samples were almost non-Arab admixed Iranians / Kurds.Then why do some of them score jordanian first? They must be very mixed then lmao because ive seen tons more than shows all of them have some sort of Iranian admix.

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Pahli
07-23-2018, 02:14 AM
Then why do some of them score jordanian first? They must be very mixed then lmao because ive seen tons more than shows all of them have some sort of Iranian admix.

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The Arab samples are also mixed, not denying that. But a fair amount of them are non-Arab but haven't been labeled so.

Aren
07-23-2018, 02:18 AM
The Arab samples are also mixed, not denying that. But a fair amount of them are non-Arab but haven't been labeled so.

In the 50+ samples who are basically all "mixed" in your opinion? Keep in mind they were sampled by an Iraqi Arab.

Pahli
07-23-2018, 02:25 AM
In the 50+ samples who are basically all "mixed" in your opinion? Keep in mind they were sampled by an Iraqi Arab.

They aren't mixed, but barely half of them are Ethnic Arab, I match with few of them on Gedmatch and they come out as Kurds usually (not labeled btw), I'll give you two examples here;

(IQ-BGD)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.85
2 Mediterranean 20.68
3 SW_Asian 11.51
4 S_Indian 9.41
5 NE_European 7.71
6 Horn_Of_Africa 3.75
7 E_Asian 0.69
8 Amerindian 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 3.18
2 Kurdish 6.59
3 Azerbaijani 8.59
4 Turk_Istanbul 10.78
5 Armenian 13.1
6 Turk_Kayseri 13.23
7 Assyrian 14.03
8 Kumyk 14.32
9 Balkar 15.85
10 North_Ossetian 16.04
11 Lebanese 16.51
12 Chechen 16.87
13 Iraqi_Jew 17.14
14 Turk_Trabzon 17.36
15 Syrian 17.9
16 Druze 18.18
17 Abkhasian 18.37
18 Lezgin 18.88
19 Palestinian 18.95
20 Pashtun 19.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.5% Iranian + 5.5% Yemenite_Jew @ 2.43
2 89.4% Iranian + 10.6% Iraqi_Jew @ 2.46
3 92.4% Iranian + 7.6% Romani @ 2.47
4 94.6% Iranian + 5.4% Libyan @ 2.51
5 94.2% Iranian + 5.8% Egyptian @ 2.52
6 91.2% Iranian + 8.8% Jordanian @ 2.52
7 90.2% Iranian + 9.8% Syrian @ 2.54
8 90.8% Iranian + 9.2% Palestinian @ 2.55
9 89.9% Iranian + 10.1% Lebanese @ 2.6
10 96.7% Iranian + 3.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.63
11 94.4% Iranian + 5.6% Yemenese @ 2.65
12 93.3% Iranian + 6.7% Samaritian @ 2.67
13 96.7% Iranian + 3.3% Moroccan @ 2.68
14 94.5% Iranian + 5.5% Bedouin_A @ 2.73
15 98% Iranian + 2% Paniya @ 2.76
16 97.9% Iranian + 2.1% Malayan @ 2.76
17 96.9% Iranian + 3.1% Saudi @ 2.76
18 92.1% Iranian + 7.9% Druze @ 2.78
19 97.8% Iranian + 2.2% Sakilli @ 2.79
20 97.9% Iranian + 2.1% North_Kannadi @ 2.8

Just (IQ) but with last name Yazeedi???;


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.73
2 Mediterranean 22.27
3 NE_European 9.65
4 SW_Asian 9.39
5 S_Indian 7.98
6 Horn_Of_Africa 2.3
7 Siberian 1.67
8 W_African 0.55
9 S_African 0.18
10 Oceanian 0.14
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 3.73
2 Kurdish 4.65
3 Azerbaijani 6.78
4 Turk_Istanbul 7.95
5 Turk_Kayseri 10.75
6 Kumyk 11.44
7 Armenian 11.52
8 Assyrian 12.99
9 Balkar 13.16
10 North_Ossetian 13.25
11 Chechen 14.15
12 Turk_Trabzon 15.81
13 Lezgin 16.54
14 Abkhasian 16.65
15 Lebanese 16.84
16 Iraqi_Jew 18.16
17 Druze 18.37
18 Syrian 18.93
19 Palestinian 19.3
20 Turkmen 19.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.6% Iranian + 5.4% Basque @ 1.92
2 91.5% Iranian + 8.5% Tuscan @ 2.02
3 93.8% Iranian + 6.2% Portuguese @ 2.05
4 94.5% Iranian + 5.5% Sardinian @ 2.06
5 90.5% Iranian + 9.5% Sicilian @ 2.09
6 91.9% Iranian + 8.1% Albanian @ 2.1
7 90.7% Iranian + 9.3% Greek_Central @ 2.12
8 92.9% Iranian + 7.1% Italian @ 2.14
9 94.1% Iranian + 5.9% Spaniard @ 2.16
10 90.6% Iranian + 9.4% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 2.16
11 90.1% Iranian + 9.9% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.17
12 91.4% Iranian + 8.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.17
13 57.6% Iranian + 42.4% Kurdish @ 2.18
14 93.1% Iranian + 6.9% Montenegrin @ 2.29
15 78.3% Iranian + 21.7% Turk_Kayseri @ 2.34
16 93.4% Iranian + 6.6% Romanian @ 2.36
17 93.3% Iranian + 6.7% Bulgarian @ 2.37
18 85.4% Kurdish + 14.6% Makrani @ 2.38
19 94.7% Iranian + 5.3% French @ 2.44
20 93.9% Iranian + 6.1% Brazilian @ 2.44

Aren
07-23-2018, 02:31 AM
They aren't mixed, but barely half of them are Ethnic Arab, I match with few of them on Gedmatch and they come out as Kurds usually (not labeled btw)

They are labeled quite accurately, there are Assyrians, Kurds and Yzidis labeled and score close to the Assyrian/Kurdish averages like one would imagine.
Sure lets say less than half are ethnic Arabs even though I doubt that. Then why are they still so uniformly Iranian + either Bedouin or Syrian/Palestinian?
If the ethnic Arabs were that different from the samples you think are mixed we would see this.

Pahli
07-23-2018, 02:33 AM
Another sample just labeled (IQ), what a fucking scam tbh:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.42
2 Mediterranean 24.04
3 SW_Asian 10.06
4 S_Indian 7.98
5 NE_European 7.58
6 Horn_Of_Africa 2.65
7 Siberian 1.41
8 Beringian 0.65
9 Wht_Nile_River 0.59
10 E_Asian 0.37
11 Omo_River 0.21
12 S_African 0.03
13 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 3.46
2 Iranian 5.13
3 Azerbaijani 5.52
4 Turk_Istanbul 7.87
5 Turk_Kayseri 9.52
6 Armenian 10.19
7 Assyrian 10.94
8 Kumyk 13.56
9 Turk_Trabzon 14.26
10 Lebanese 14.92
11 North_Ossetian 14.96
12 Balkar 15
13 Druze 16
14 Iraqi_Jew 16.19
15 Chechen 16.43
16 Syrian 17.13
17 Palestinian 17.18
18 Abkhasian 17.2
19 Lezgin 19.04
20 Jordanian 19.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Iranian + 8.3% Sardinian @ 2.08
2 73.5% Assyrian + 26.5% Pathan @ 2.2
3 81.7% Iranian + 18.3% Cypriot @ 2.23
4 64% Kurdish + 36% Iranian @ 2.33
5 91.4% Kurdish + 8.6% Makrani @ 2.54
6 66.4% Assyrian + 33.6% Pashtun @ 2.54
7 93.7% Kurdish + 6.3% Burusho @ 2.57
8 85.6% Iranian + 14.4% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.59
9 92.6% Kurdish + 7.4% Brahui @ 2.62
10 94.2% Kurdish + 5.8% Sindhi @ 2.62
11 76.4% Assyrian + 23.6% Burusho @ 2.66
12 92.3% Kurdish + 7.7% Balochi @ 2.66
13 94.2% Kurdish + 5.8% Kashmiri @ 2.69
14 96.1% Kurdish + 3.9% Bengali @ 2.7
15 93.2% Kurdish + 6.8% Pathan @ 2.71
16 96.6% Kurdish + 3.4% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 2.71
17 96.3% Kurdish + 3.7% Tharus @ 2.72
18 95.8% Kurdish + 4.2% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.73
19 95.7% Kurdish + 4.3% UP_Muslim @ 2.73
20 96.7% Kurdish + 3.3% Uttar_Pradesh_SC @ 2.75

And yet again;


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.23
2 Mediterranean 18.81
3 S_Indian 10.91
4 NE_European 10.43
5 SW_Asian 10.12
6 Horn_Of_Africa 1.25
7 Siberian 1.16
8 Omo_River 1.16
9 E_Asian 0.86
10 Oceanian 0.56
11 Beringian 0.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 5.04
2 Kurdish 8.64
3 Azerbaijani 10.57
4 Turk_Istanbul 11.82
5 Kumyk 13.04
6 Turk_Kayseri 14.06
7 Chechen 14.97
8 Balkar 14.98
9 North_Ossetian 15.59
10 Armenian 15.76
11 Pashtun 16.04
12 Tadjik 16.55
13 Assyrian 16.86
14 Lezgin 17.38
15 Turkmen 17.45
16 Lebanese 18.41
17 Iraqi_Jew 19.29
18 Syrian 19.93
19 Turk_Trabzon 20.03
20 Abkhasian 20.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Iranian + 16.1% Romani @ 2.7
2 79.1% Iranian + 20.9% Pashtun @ 2.83
3 91.2% Iranian + 8.8% UP_Brahmin @ 3
4 91.8% Iranian + 8.2% UP_Muslim @ 3.19
5 88.7% Iranian + 11.3% Kashmiri @ 3.22
6 92% Iranian + 8% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 3.25
7 95.1% Iranian + 4.9% Paniya @ 3.26
8 86.4% Iranian + 13.6% Pathan @ 3.27
9 95% Iranian + 5% Malayan @ 3.3
10 93% Iranian + 7% Kanjar @ 3.34
11 94.7% Iranian + 5.3% North_Kannadi @ 3.38
12 94% Iranian + 6% Uttar_Pradesh_SC @ 3.38
13 94.6% Iranian + 5.4% Sakilli @ 3.41
14 93% Iranian + 7% Bengali @ 3.45
15 93.4% Iranian + 6.6% Tharus @ 3.45
16 94% Iranian + 6% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 3.48
17 89.3% Iranian + 10.7% Burusho @ 3.61
18 82.3% Iranian + 17.7% Tadjik @ 3.66
19 71% Azerbaijani + 29% Pathan @ 3.69
20 90.5% Iranian + 9.5% Sindhi @ 3.76

And again :laugh:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 47.14
2 Mediterranean 20.7
3 SW_Asian 11.77
4 S_Indian 7.54
5 NE_European 5.76
6 Horn_Of_Africa 3.88
7 Siberian 1.45
8 Amerindian 0.92
9 Oceanian 0.84

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 3.37
2 Kurdish 7.07
3 Azerbaijani 7.72
4 Turk_Istanbul 10.42
5 Armenian 12.16
6 Assyrian 13.11
7 Turk_Kayseri 13.48
8 Kumyk 14.52
9 North_Ossetian 15.83
10 Balkar 16.14
11 Turk_Trabzon 16.42
12 Lebanese 16.68
13 Abkhasian 17.17
14 Iraqi_Jew 17.23
15 Chechen 17.66
16 Druze 17.69
17 Syrian 17.95
18 Palestinian 19.01
19 Lezgin 19.31
20 Jordanian 20.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.6% Iranian + 10.4% Druze @ 2.69
2 94.6% Iranian + 5.4% Yemenite_Jew @ 2.72
3 89.7% Iranian + 10.3% Iraqi_Jew @ 2.74
4 92.4% Iranian + 7.6% Samaritian @ 2.75
5 90.3% Iranian + 9.7% Syrian @ 2.78
6 91.4% Iranian + 8.6% Jordanian @ 2.79
7 94.4% Iranian + 5.6% Egyptian @ 2.79
8 91% Iranian + 9% Palestinian @ 2.8
9 93.7% Iranian + 6.3% Bedouin_A @ 2.8
10 95.1% Iranian + 4.9% Libyan @ 2.86
11 90.6% Iranian + 9.4% Lebanese @ 2.9
12 88.3% Iranian + 11.7% Assyrian @ 2.91
13 94.7% Iranian + 5.3% Yemenese @ 2.92
14 96.9% Iranian + 3.1% Saudi @ 2.98
15 94.5% Iranian + 5.5% Cypriot @ 3.07
16 97.5% Iranian + 2.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.09
17 93% Iranian + 7% Turk_Trabzon @ 3.14
18 97.7% Iranian + 2.3% Moroccan @ 3.15
19 91.1% Iranian + 8.9% Armenian @ 3.17
20 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Bedouin_B @ 3.18


They are labeled quite accurately, there are Assyrians, Kurds and Yzidis labeled and score close to the Assyrian/Kurdish averages like one would imagine.
Sure lets say less than half are ethnic Arabs even though I doubt that. Then why are they still so uniformly Iranian + either Bedouin or Syrian/Palestinian?
If the ethnic Arabs were that different from the samples you think are mixed we would see this.

There's no ethnic label, just the (IQ) even though they aren't Arab at all, those samples are almost identical to me, those that I also match with on gedmatch

Babak
07-23-2018, 02:33 AM
They aren't mixed, but barely half of them are Ethnic Arab, I match with few of them on Gedmatch and they come out as Kurds usually (not labeled btw), I'll give you two examples here;

(IQ-BGD)

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Caucasian45.85
2Mediterranean20.68
3SW_Asian11.51
4S_Indian9.41
5NE_European7.71
6Horn_Of_Africa3.75
7E_Asian0.69
8Amerindian0.41

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Iranian3.18
2Kurdish6.59
3Azerbaijani8.59
4Turk_Istanbul10.78
5Armenian13.1
6Turk_Kayseri13.23
7Assyrian14.03
8Kumyk14.32
9Balkar15.85
10North_Ossetian16.04
11Lebanese16.51
12Chechen16.87
13Iraqi_Jew17.14
14Turk_Trabzon17.36
15Syrian17.9
16Druze18.18
17Abkhasian18.37
18Lezgin18.88
19Palestinian18.95
20Pashtun19.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 94.5%Iranian+5.5%Yemenite_Jew@2.43
2 89.4%Iranian+10.6%Iraqi_Jew@2.46
3 92.4%Iranian+7.6%Romani@2.47
4 94.6%Iranian+5.4%Libyan@2.51
5 94.2%Iranian+5.8%Egyptian@2.52
6 91.2%Iranian+8.8%Jordanian@2.52
7 90.2%Iranian+9.8%Syrian@2.54
8 90.8%Iranian+9.2%Palestinian@2.55
9 89.9%Iranian+10.1%Lebanese@2.6
10 96.7%Iranian+3.3%Mozabite_Berber@2.63
11 94.4%Iranian+5.6%Yemenese@2.65
12 93.3%Iranian+6.7%Samaritian@2.67
13 96.7%Iranian+3.3%Moroccan@2.68
14 94.5%Iranian+5.5%Bedouin_A@2.73
15 98%Iranian+2%Paniya@2.76
16 97.9%Iranian+2.1%Malayan@2.76
17 96.9%Iranian+3.1%Saudi@2.76
18 92.1%Iranian+7.9%Druze@2.78
19 97.8%Iranian+2.2%Sakilli@2.79
20 97.9%Iranian+2.1%North_Kannadi@2.8

Just (IQ) but with last name Yazeedi???;


Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Caucasian45.73
2Mediterranean22.27
3NE_European9.65
4SW_Asian9.39
5S_Indian7.98
6Horn_Of_Africa2.3
7Siberian1.67
8W_African0.55
9S_African0.18
10Oceanian0.14
11Wht_Nile_River0.13

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Iranian3.73
2Kurdish4.65
3Azerbaijani6.78
4Turk_Istanbul7.95
5Turk_Kayseri10.75
6Kumyk11.44
7Armenian11.52
8Assyrian12.99
9Balkar13.16
10North_Ossetian13.25
11Chechen14.15
12Turk_Trabzon15.81
13Lezgin16.54
14Abkhasian16.65
15Lebanese16.84
16Iraqi_Jew18.16
17Druze18.37
18Syrian18.93
19Palestinian19.3
20Turkmen19.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 94.6%Iranian+5.4%Basque@1.92
2 91.5%Iranian+8.5%Tuscan@2.02
3 93.8%Iranian+6.2%Portuguese@2.05
4 94.5%Iranian+5.5%Sardinian@2.06
5 90.5%Iranian+9.5%Sicilian@2.09
6 91.9%Iranian+8.1%Albanian@2.1
7 90.7%Iranian+9.3%Greek_Central@2.12
8 92.9%Iranian+7.1%Italian@2.14
9 94.1%Iranian+5.9%Spaniard@2.16
10 90.6%Iranian+9.4%Ashkenazy_Jew@2.16
11 90.1%Iranian+9.9%Sephardic_Jew@2.17
12 91.4%Iranian+8.6%Greek_Thessaly@2.17
13 57.6%Iranian+42.4%Kurdish@2.18
14 93.1%Iranian+6.9%Montenegrin@2.29
15 78.3%Iranian+21.7%Turk_Kayseri@2.34
16 93.4%Iranian+6.6%Romanian@2.36
17 93.3%Iranian+6.7%Bulgarian@2.37
18 85.4%Kurdish+14.6%Makrani@2.38
19 94.7%Iranian+5.3%French@2.44
20 93.9%Iranian+6.1%Brazilian@2.44Idk man. Western iraqis seem to be outliers, but everyone else are mutts lmao.

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Hadouken
07-23-2018, 02:34 AM
any southern iraqi results ?

Babak
07-23-2018, 02:35 AM
any southern iraqi results ?Some i posted are south iraqi

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StonyArabia
07-23-2018, 02:39 AM
The samples are most likely of Iraqi Kurds. Iraqi Kurds usually show slight Arab shift which makes sense, but otherwise it's very different. I doubt most of these Iraqi Arabs are Bedouins. They might be some Iraqi Arabs. Iraqi Bedouins especially those from Western Iraq would be closer to Yemenite Jews and show slight Levantine influence rather than Iranic one. I also believe that Iraqis from the deep south would also score more Arabian, but those in the center for sure will have strong Iranian influence due to historical reasons.

Pahli
07-23-2018, 02:40 AM
The samples are most likely of Iraqi Kurds. Iraqi Kurds usually show slight Arab shift which makes sense, but otherwise it's very different. I doubt most of these Iraqi Arabs are Bedouins. They might be some Iraqi Arabs. Iraqi Bedouins especially those from Western Iraq would be closer to Yemenite Jews and show slight Levantine influence rather than Iranic one. I also believe that Iraqis from the deep south would also score more Arabian, but those in the center for sure will have strong Iranian influence due to historical reasons.

I'm pretty sure there isn't many samples of Bedouin Iraqis and those I've seen were 2/3 Saudi and 1/3 Iranian at most.