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Token
07-24-2018, 10:47 PM
Andronovo - RISE500

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.41
2 Baltic 38.28
3 West_Asian 15.04
4 South_Asian 1.59
5 Amerindian 0.59
6 West_Med 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 12.86
2 Swedish 14.06
3 Southwest_Finnish 15.54
4 North_German 15.66
5 Norwegian 16.01
6 Danish 17.1
7 North_Dutch 17.51
8 East_German 18.09
9 Finnish 18.27
10 South_Polish 18.31
11 Polish 18.86
12 Austrian 19.06
13 Estonian 19.65
14 Irish 19.69
15 La_Brana-1 19.85
16 Hungarian 19.88
17 Orcadian 19.93
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.42
19 Russian_Smolensk 20.45
20 West_Scottish 20.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% North_Swedish + 15.1% Tabassaran @ 10.34
2 86.1% North_Swedish + 13.9% Lezgin @ 10.58
3 86.8% North_Swedish + 13.2% Chechen @ 10.84
4 90.3% North_Swedish + 9.7% Balochi @ 10.98
5 90.7% North_Swedish + 9.3% Brahui @ 11.06
6 89.7% North_Swedish + 10.3% Kalash @ 11.18
7 89.2% North_Swedish + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 11.29
8 91.1% North_Swedish + 8.9% Makrani @ 11.33
9 89.1% North_Swedish + 10.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.33
10 89.3% North_Swedish + 10.7% Adygei @ 11.37
11 89.1% North_Swedish + 10.9% Kabardin @ 11.46
12 90% North_Swedish + 10% Ossetian @ 11.48
13 91.6% North_Swedish + 8.4% Abhkasian @ 11.55
14 91.2% North_Swedish + 8.8% Georgian @ 11.56
15 89.6% North_Swedish + 10.4% Kumyk @ 11.61
16 90.1% North_Swedish + 9.9% Balkar @ 11.64
17 68.6% Swedish + 31.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 11.68
18 89.4% North_Swedish + 10.6% Tadjik @ 11.72
19 91.5% North_Swedish + 8.5% Pathan @ 11.72
20 61% Norwegian + 39% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 11.73

Sintashta

1 North_Atlantic 47.31
2 Baltic 38.38
3 West_Asian 11.65
4 West_Med 2.16
5 Sub-Saharan 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 10.02
2 Swedish 10.91
3 Norwegian 12.9
4 North_German 13.45
5 Southwest_Finnish 14.04
6 Danish 14.47
7 North_Dutch 14.75
8 East_German 16.91
9 Irish 17.06
10 Orcadian 17.2
11 Finnish 17.78
12 West_Scottish 17.89
13 Austrian 18.06
14 South_Polish 18.26
15 Polish 18.75
16 Southeast_English 18.98
17 La_Brana-1 19.11
18 Estonian 19.21
19 Hungarian 19.67
20 Southwest_English 20.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Swedish + 21.9% Lithuanian @ 9.23
2 69.7% Norwegian + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 9.24
3 92.5% North_Swedish + 7.5% Tabassaran @ 9.27
4 72.9% Swedish + 27.1% Finnish @ 9.34
5 75% Swedish + 25% Estonian @ 9.36
6 93.3% North_Swedish + 6.7% Lezgin @ 9.37
7 63.1% Norwegian + 36.9% Finnish @ 9.39
8 65.5% Norwegian + 34.5% Estonian @ 9.41
9 78.3% Swedish + 21.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.47
10 93.9% North_Swedish + 6.1% Chechen @ 9.49
11 82.9% Swedish + 17.1% Erzya @ 9.6
12 78% Swedish + 22% Belorussian @ 9.6
13 95.9% North_Swedish + 4.1% Balochi @ 9.61
14 79% Swedish + 21% East_Finnish @ 9.61
15 78.2% Swedish + 21.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 9.62
16 96.2% North_Swedish + 3.8% Brahui @ 9.65
17 69.4% Norwegian + 30.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.67
18 95.4% North_Swedish + 4.6% North_Ossetian @ 9.67
19 95.6% North_Swedish + 4.4% Adygei @ 9.7
20 96.1% North_Swedish + 3.9% Kalash @ 9.73

Kashkarchi_BA

1 Baltic 37.39
2 North_Atlantic 35.93
3 West_Asian 17.85
4 South_Asian 4.85
5 Amerindian 3.97

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 17.15
2 North_Swedish 17.36
3 Southwest_Finnish 17.7
4 Polish 17.73
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.79
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.98
7 Russian_Smolensk 18.75
8 Ukrainian 18.75
9 Hungarian 18.78
10 East_German 18.83
11 Southwest_Russian 18.87
12 Finnish 18.9
13 Swedish 19.24
14 North_German 19.64
15 Austrian 19.67
16 Belorussian 19.76
17 Estonian 19.77
18 Croatian 19.92
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.11
20 Estonian_Polish 20.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Southwest_Finnish + 28.6% Tabassaran @ 9.74
2 79.2% Southwest_Finnish + 20.8% Balochi @ 10.1
3 79.8% Southwest_Finnish + 20.2% Brahui @ 10.27
4 72.5% North_Swedish + 27.5% Tabassaran @ 10.36
5 73.3% Southwest_Finnish + 26.7% Lezgin @ 10.49
6 77.2% Southwest_Finnish + 22.8% Kalash @ 10.63
7 70.3% Finnish + 29.7% Tabassaran @ 10.83
8 74.3% North_Swedish + 25.7% Lezgin @ 10.85
9 73.7% Southwest_Finnish + 26.3% Chechen @ 10.86
10 78% North_Swedish + 22% Kalash @ 10.87
11 80% Southwest_Finnish + 20% Makrani @ 10.88
12 75.3% Southwest_Finnish + 24.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 10.88
13 80.4% North_Swedish + 19.6% Balochi @ 10.95
14 69.1% Estonian + 30.9% Tabassaran @ 11.05
15 81% North_Swedish + 19% Brahui @ 11.08
16 74.6% North_Swedish + 25.4% Chechen @ 11.18
17 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Balochi @ 11.34
18 76.3% North_Swedish + 23.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.34
19 79.1% Finnish + 20.9% Brahui @ 11.53
20 81.2% North_Swedish + 18.8% Makrani @ 11.62

Srubnaya M217196:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 44.75
2 Eastern_Euro 17.27
3 Atlantic 14.28
4 Baltic 12.68
5 West_Asian 10.02
6 South_Asian 0.48
7 West_Med 0.34
8 Amerindian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 12.8
2 Swedish 12.99
3 West_Norwegian 13.39
4 Norwegian 13.4
5 North_Dutch 16.41
6 Danish 16.58
7 North_German 17.7
8 Orcadian 17.95
9 West_German 18.27
10 Southwest_Finnish 18.52
11 Finnish 18.54
12 West_Scottish 18.85
13 Irish 19.47
14 Southeast_English 19.93
15 East_German 20.44
16 Southwest_English 20.49
17 South_Dutch 21.56
18 Hungarian 22.16
19 East_Finnish 22.33
20 Estonian 23.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% West_Norwegian + 16.2% Tabassaran @ 10.9
2 85.6% West_Norwegian + 14.4% Lezgin @ 11.26
3 86.4% Swedish + 13.6% Tabassaran @ 11.36
4 87.8% North_Swedish + 12.2% Tabassaran @ 11.52
5 87% West_Norwegian + 13% Chechen @ 11.59
6 85.7% Norwegian + 14.3% Tabassaran @ 11.61
7 88.5% Swedish + 11.5% Lezgin @ 11.73
8 89.9% North_Swedish + 10.1% Lezgin @ 11.85
9 87.6% Norwegian + 12.4% Lezgin @ 11.96
10 89% West_Norwegian + 11% Adygei @ 11.97
11 90.9% North_Swedish + 9.1% Chechen @ 11.98
12 88.6% West_Norwegian + 11.4% Kabardin @ 11.98
13 89.9% Swedish + 10.1% Chechen @ 11.98
14 88.1% West_Norwegian + 11.9% Kumyk @ 11.99
15 89.4% West_Norwegian + 10.6% Ossetian @ 12.02
16 89.5% West_Norwegian + 10.5% North_Ossetian @ 12.04
17 88.6% West_Norwegian + 11.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 12.04
18 89.8% West_Norwegian + 10.2% Kalash @ 12.05
19 89.2% West_Norwegian + 10.8% Balkar @ 12.08
20 91.1% West_Norwegian + 8.9% Abhkasian @ 12.12

Srubnaya M472767:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.53
2 Atlantic 19.79
3 Eastern_Euro 19.03
4 Baltic 16.73
5 West_Asian 11.25
6 South_Asian 2.69

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 11.08
2 North_Swedish 11.58
3 Finnish 12.06
4 East_German 12.79
5 North_German 13.41
6 Swedish 13.89
7 Hungarian 14.38
8 East_Finnish 14.68
9 Norwegian 14.77
10 South_Polish 14.86
11 Danish 14.93
12 Austrian 15.18
13 Polish 15.45
14 North_Dutch 15.68
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.96
16 Ukrainian 16.01
17 Estonian 16.1
18 West_Norwegian 16.67
19 Croatian 16.76
20 West_German 17.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% Southwest_Finnish + 19.6% Tabassaran @ 6.69
2 79.5% North_Swedish + 20.5% Tabassaran @ 6.8
3 80.3% North_Swedish + 19.7% Lezgin @ 6.81
4 81% North_Swedish + 19% Chechen @ 6.81
5 81.9% Southwest_Finnish + 18.1% Lezgin @ 7.17
6 82.6% Southwest_Finnish + 17.4% Chechen @ 7.26
7 82.9% North_Swedish + 17.1% Adygei @ 7.32
8 82.2% North_Swedish + 17.8% Kabardin @ 7.4
9 83.5% North_Swedish + 16.5% North_Ossetian @ 7.45
10 83% North_Swedish + 17% Balkar @ 7.67
11 83.9% North_Swedish + 16.1% Ossetian @ 7.76
12 82.1% North_Swedish + 17.9% Kumyk @ 7.84
13 86.3% North_Swedish + 13.7% Abhkasian @ 7.86
14 85.2% Southwest_Finnish + 14.8% Ossetian @ 7.89
15 84.8% Southwest_Finnish + 15.2% Adygei @ 7.9
16 87.4% Southwest_Finnish + 12.6% Abhkasian @ 7.96
17 85.8% North_Swedish + 14.2% Georgian @ 8
18 82.8% North_Swedish + 17.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 8.03
19 85.4% Southwest_Finnish + 14.6% North_Ossetian @ 8.04
20 86.9% Southwest_Finnish + 13.1% Georgian @ 8.05

Böri
07-24-2018, 10:49 PM
Swede first?
So, they gave their language to anyone from Ossetians in Caucasus to Bangladeshis to the east, and went extinct right?

cyberlorian
07-24-2018, 10:50 PM
Huh? Are you sure that you have posted the right Gedmatch results? I ask because North Atlantic and North Sea are the highest componenst and they sound to be very distant to Indo Iranians.

Marmara
07-24-2018, 10:50 PM
Tr00 Aryans.

Marmara
07-24-2018, 10:51 PM
Huh? Are you sure that you have posted the right Gedmatch results? I ask because North Atlantic and North Sea are the highest componenst and they sound to be very distant to Indo Iranians.

It is true, original Indo-Iranians were North European by genetics.

cyberlorian
07-24-2018, 10:53 PM
It is true, original Indo-Iranians were North European by genetics.

:confused:

Babak
07-24-2018, 10:53 PM
Andronovo:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 55.73
2 West_Asia 17.68
3 SW_Europe 17.59
4 South_Asia 4.08
5 Siberia 2.47
6 Americas 2.4
7 Oceania 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovian 10.44
2 Russian 12.06
3 Belarusian 13.22
4 Ukrainian 13.46
5 Polish 13.99
6 Estonian 16.06
7 Slovak 16.19
8 German_North 16.64
9 Lithuanian 16.76
10 Latvian 16.94
11 Swedish 17.14
12 Norwegian 17.21
13 Moldavian 17.91
14 Slovene 18.04
15 Tatar 18.27
16 Hungarian 19.13
17 Irish 19.81
18 Utahn_European 20.09
19 Scottish 20.11
20 Orcadian 20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Lithuanian + 26.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.71
2 70.4% Latvian + 29.6% Tadjik @ 4.77
3 70.7% Lithuanian + 29.3% Tadjik @ 4.79
4 73.6% Latvian + 26.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.79
5 74.8% Estonian + 25.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.98
6 74.8% Lithuanian + 25.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.1
7 74.6% Latvian + 25.4% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.16
8 71.8% Estonian + 28.2% Tadjik @ 5.22
9 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Pathan @ 5.25
10 75.8% Estonian + 24.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.34
11 77.5% Lithuanian + 22.5% Balochi @ 5.4
12 75.3% Latvian + 24.7% Pathan @ 5.4
13 76.4% Estonian + 23.6% Pathan @ 5.41
14 77.3% Latvian + 22.7% Balochi @ 5.45
15 78.1% Lithuanian + 21.9% Brahui @ 5.49
16 77.9% Latvian + 22.1% Brahui @ 5.56
17 77.9% Lithuanian + 22.1% Makrani @ 5.63
18 78.4% Estonian + 21.6% Balochi @ 5.66
19 79% Estonian + 21% Brahui @ 5.74
20 78.8% Estonian + 21.2% Makrani @ 5.78


Scythian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 47.19
2 West_Asia 24.04
3 SW_Europe 13.65
4 Siberia 6.75
5 South_Asia 3.11
6 Americas 3.02
7 NE_Asia 1.25
8 SE_Asia 0.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 13.67
2 Chuvash 18.02
3 Mordovian 18.65
4 Moldavian 20.39
5 Ukrainian 20.91
6 Slovak 21.29
7 Russian 21.49
8 Aluet 22
9 Slovene 22.5
10 Belarusian 22.63
11 Bosnian 22.88
12 Hungarian 23.42
13 German_North 23.45
14 Croatian 24.21
15 Polish 24.37
16 Romanian 24.4
17 Serbian 24.51
18 Montenegrin 25.27
19 Norwegian 25.31
20 Scottish 25.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Mordovian + 37.7% Tadjik @ 7.16
2 51.8% Latvian + 48.2% Tadjik @ 7.24
3 51.9% Lithuanian + 48.1% Tadjik @ 7.38
4 58.5% Russian + 41.5% Tadjik @ 7.41
5 67.8% Mordovian + 32.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 7.44
6 50.3% Tadjik + 49.7% Finnish @ 7.58
7 50.8% Chechen + 49.2% Finnish @ 7.66
8 52.7% Estonian + 47.3% Tadjik @ 7.72
9 70.3% Mordovian + 29.7% Pathan @ 7.93
10 69.6% Mordovian + 30.4% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 8.08
11 64.4% Russian + 35.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 8.18
12 73.7% Mordovian + 26.3% Makrani @ 8.21
13 73.2% Mordovian + 26.8% Balochi @ 8.25
14 74% Mordovian + 26% Brahui @ 8.3
15 62.3% Mordovian + 37.7% Chechen @ 8.39
16 55.2% Polish + 44.8% Tadjik @ 8.43
17 50.2% Kumyk + 49.8% Finnish @ 8.44
18 55.7% Finnish + 44.3% Dagestan_Azeri @ 8.53
19 53.7% Finnish + 46.3% Adygei @ 8.73
20 67% Russian + 33% Pathan @ 8.81

Marmara
07-24-2018, 10:55 PM
:confused:

Why are you so confused? Indo-Iranians originate from somewhere in Northeast Europe, they were blonde blue eyed nordics. They migrated in Central Asia and from there invaded India and Iran, mixed with native populations.

Aren
07-24-2018, 10:55 PM
Huh? Are you sure that you have posted the right Gedmatch results? I ask because North Atlantic and North Sea are the highest componenst and they sound to be very distant to Indo Iranians.

Even Yamnaya scores highest of North Sea. It's no surprise Norwegians have the most Steppe input of all modern ethnicities I believe. North Sea component is based on Southern Norwegians.

happycow
07-24-2018, 10:55 PM
interesting...

Böri
07-24-2018, 10:56 PM
:confused:

No room for confusion. First speakers of Kurdish were people like you see in Vikings series, later they moved south and assimilated natives who were farmers everywhere from Sri Lanka to Transcaucasus and they simply melted down.
You were lusting on the Swedish girl from Finland last month through threads, maybe this was result of a hidden-backyard psychology of a milleniums-long Elite Dominance effect xD

Token
07-24-2018, 10:57 PM
Swede first?
So, they gave their language from Ossetians in Caucasus to Bangladeshis to the east, and went extinct right?

Most Indo-Iranians today can be modelled as less than 20% early Indo-Iranian (Sintashta, Srubna, Steppe_MLBA in general). Some Tajiks and Pashtuns can score up to 50% though.

Token
07-24-2018, 10:57 PM
Huh? Are you sure that you have posted the right Gedmatch results? I ask because North Atlantic and North Sea are the highest componenst and they sound to be very distant to Indo Iranians.

Yes, original Indo-Iranians were pretty much Northern Europeans.

cyberlorian
07-24-2018, 10:58 PM
Why are you so confused? Indo-Iranians originate from somewhere in Northeast Europe, they were blonde blue eyed nordics. They migrated in Central Asia and from there invaded India and Iran, mixed with native populations.

Were the natives mostly Iranid?

Marmara
07-24-2018, 10:58 PM
No room for confusion. First speakers of Kurdish were people like you see in Vikings series, later they moved south and assimilated natives who were farmers everywhere from Sri Lanka to Transcaucasus and they simply melted down.
You were lusting on the Swedish girl from Finland last month through threads, maybe this was result of a psychology of a milleniums long Elite Dominance effect xD

"First speakers of Kurdish"

There was no distinct Kurdish identity or language back then, but yes, Kurdish language originates from these people as well as partial ancestry of Kurds. Also partial ancestry of Turks.

Marmara
07-24-2018, 10:59 PM
Were the natives mostly Iranid?

I think Iranid is result of mixing

cyberlorian
07-24-2018, 11:02 PM
You were lusting on the Swedish girl from Finland last month through threads, maybe this was result of a hidden-backyard psychology of a milleniums-long Elite Dominance effect xD

I don’t remember they have dominated Turkish people :confused:

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:03 PM
Most Indo-Iranians today can be modelled as less than 20% early Indo-Iranian (Sintashta, Srubna, Steppe_MLBA in general). Some Tajiks and Pashtuns can score up to 50% though.

Yaghnobis / Pamiris score up to 60%, but the real descendants of early Indo-Iranians were the Scytho-Sarmatians, they're long gone now though.

Böri
07-24-2018, 11:06 PM
Not among the Iranians, but among the Hindi branch this can be seen even in the religion.
In Hindu culture, they worship white, thin, tall people. They received those migrants 5k years ago, they worshipped them as gods and those PIE Aryans disappeared among them.

The Aryan theory was right after all.

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:10 PM
Pamiri samples;

Ishkashim:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 34.74
2 NE_Europe 26.65
3 South_Asia 19.01
4 SW_Europe 7.85
5 Siberia 4.62
6 NE_Asia 2.56
7 Americas 1.55
8 Oceania 1.4
9 West_Africa 1.28
10 SW_Asia 0.29
11 South_Africa 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 9.67
2 Afghan_Pashtun 12.14
3 Pakistan_Pashtun 13.99
4 Pathan 15.39
5 Afghan_Uzbeki 16.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.1% Pakistan_Pashtun + 19.9% Finnish @ 4.83
2 82.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 17.3% Finnish @ 4.97
3 76.6% Pakistan_Pashtun + 23.4% Mordovian @ 5.33
4 74.6% Pathan + 25.4% Mordovian @ 5.39
5 77.7% Pakistan_Pashtun + 22.3% Russian @ 5.43

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 36.74
2 NE_Europe 26
3 South_Asia 16.02
4 SW_Europe 6.05
5 Siberia 5.76
6 NE_Asia 3.8
7 SW_Asia 2.35
8 Americas 2.14
9 East_Africa 0.62
10 South_Africa 0.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 7.91
2 Afghan_Pashtun 11.79
3 Pakistan_Pashtun 14.36
4 Afghan_Uzbeki 14.8
5 Pathan 14.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.8% Chuvash @ 5.21
2 83.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 16.4% Finnish @ 5.43
3 79.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 20.9% Aluet @ 5.58
4 74.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 25.2% Tatar @ 5.67
5 72% Pathan + 28% Chuvash @ 5.72

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 34.93
2 NE_Europe 24.47
3 South_Asia 18.86
4 SW_Europe 8.53
5 Siberia 4.67
6 NE_Asia 3.38
7 Americas 1.48
8 East_Africa 1.47
9 SW_Asia 1.13
10 South_Africa 0.7
11 Oceania 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 7.94
2 Afghan_Pashtun 10.6
3 Pakistan_Pashtun 12.55
4 Pathan 13.84
5 Afghan_Uzbeki 14.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Pakistan_Pashtun + 27.4% Tatar @ 4.14
2 79.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 20.8% Chuvash @ 4.42
3 76.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 23.5% Tatar @ 4.43
4 70.5% Pathan + 29.5% Tatar @ 4.44
5 75.7% Pakistan_Pashtun + 24.3% Chuvash @ 4.44

Rushan:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 36.21
2 NE_Europe 27.63
3 South_Asia 11.8
4 SW_Europe 9.79
5 Siberia 5.04
6 Americas 2.97
7 SW_Asia 2.77
8 SE_Asia 1.43
9 NE_Asia 1.36
10 South_Africa 0.62
11 East_Africa 0.3
12 West_Africa 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 8.25
2 Afghan_Pashtun 14.46
3 Chechen 15.22
4 Kumyk 15.23
5 Afghan_Uzbeki 16.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Tadjik + 11.4% Latvian @ 5.34
2 89% Tadjik + 11% Finnish @ 5.35
3 88.6% Tadjik + 11.4% Lithuanian @ 5.4
4 74.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 25.2% Mordovian @ 5.47
5 88.6% Tadjik + 11.4% Estonian @ 5.49

Shugnan:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 33.77
2 NE_Europe 27.96
3 South_Asia 14.64
4 SW_Europe 11.15
5 Siberia 3.9
6 NE_Asia 2.91
7 Americas 2.89
8 SW_Asia 1.77
9 East_Africa 0.63
10 South_Africa 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 8.8
2 Afghan_Pashtun 14.61
3 Afghan_Uzbeki 16.3
4 Kumyk 16.66
5 Pakistan_Pashtun 17.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 26.6% Mordovian @ 3.62
2 74.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 25.3% Russian @ 3.84
3 76.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 23.1% Estonian @ 4.16
4 77.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.8% Lithuanian @ 4.23
5 77.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.7% Latvian @ 4.27

Yaghnobi:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 38.48
2 NE_Europe 24.22
3 SW_Europe 12.03
4 South_Asia 7.06
5 SW_Asia 6.43
6 Siberia 4.55
7 NE_Asia 2.34
8 Americas 1.88
9 East_Africa 1.78
10 South_Africa 0.92
11 West_Africa 0.16
12 Oceania 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 8.73
2 Kumyk 9.6
3 Chechen 10.05
4 Adygei 13.69
5 Dagestan_Azeri 13.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.5% Tadjik + 45.5% Chechen @ 4.37
2 64.8% Chechen + 35.2% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5.34
3 75.5% Chechen + 24.5% Burusho @ 6.01
4 66.5% Tadjik + 33.5% Adygei @ 6.2
5 54.5% Tadjik + 45.5% Kumyk @ 6.33

Babak
07-24-2018, 11:13 PM
Not among the Iranians, but among the Hindi branch this can be seen even in the religion.
In Hindu culture, they worship white, thin, tall people. They received those migrants 5k years ago, they worshipped them as gods and those PIE Aryans disappeared among them.

The Aryan theory was right after all.

The Kurgan theory? Of course its right. In fact, its the only theory thats becoming more and more accepted by forensic anthropologists.

Böri
07-24-2018, 11:16 PM
I don’t remember they have dominated Turkish people :confused:

They didn't dominate proto-Turks. Actuallly the other way around. Some Afanesovans migrated among Turks 4500 years ago. Archeologists think that they were 2000 people, they melted inside the 3000 native Siberian Turks in some isolated place in middle taigas in southern Siberia.

Turks don't have backyard psychology for Aryas. :naughty:

Most Turkish nationalist kids use photos like this on their Facebook as background profile picture. That reminds them how we were thousands of years ago.

https://preview.ibb.co/c7uGJo/sbr.png

Token
07-24-2018, 11:18 PM
Not among the Iranians, but among the Hindi branch this can be seen even in the religion.
In Hindu culture, they worship white, thin, tall people. They received those migrants 5k years ago, they worshipped them as gods and those PIE Aryans disappeared among them.

The Aryan theory was right after all.

AIT was always obvious, but genetics finally proved it. Here's a excerpt from the Vedas, describing a war between the coming Vedic Aryans and the Dasyu, an aboriginal people. Note the destruction of water canals and fortresses, present in the IVC.

He spread the wide earth out and firmly fixed it, smote with his thunderbolt and loosed the waters.
Maghavan with his puissance struck down Ahi, rent Rauhiṇa to death and slaughtered Vyaṁsa.
armed with his bolt and trusting in his prowess he wandered shattering the forts of Dāsas. Cast thy dart, knowing, Thunderer, at the Dasyu; increase the Ārya's might and glory, Indra.

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:19 PM
They didn't dominate proto-Turks. Actuallly the other way around. Some Afanesovans migrated among Turks 4500 years ago. Archeologists think that they were 2000 people, they melted inside the 3000 native Siberian Turks.

Turks don't have backyard psychology for Aryas. :naughty:

Most Turkish nationalist kids use photos like this on their Facebook as background profile picture.

https://preview.ibb.co/c7uGJo/sbr.png

That's Siberia and Siberians.

Those are not Turks, you have serious identity complexes. So yes, Indo-Iranian nomads dominated the Siberian like Proto-Turks, thats how your "ancestors" learned to ride a horse and shoot arrows from a bow, there is nothing that points towards the opposite Turks weren't shit until they learned the nomadic culture introduced to them by Scythians :laugh:

Babak
07-24-2018, 11:19 PM
I don’t remember they have dominated Turkish people :confused:

They migrated to siberia, had fun with the women there and created the Turkic identity.

So to break it down for you:

Proto-IE people+Yamnaya=Proto-indo iranian

Proto-Indo-Iranians+Native siberian=Proto-Turkic identity

Proto-Indo-Iranian+Bmac=Iranic identity

Böri
07-24-2018, 11:21 PM
Those are not Turks, you have serious identity complexes. So yes, Indo-Iranian nomads dominated the Siberian like Proto-Turks, thats how your "ancestors" learned to ride a horse and shoot arrows from a bow, there is nothing that points towards the opposite Turks weren't shit until they learned the nomadic culture introduced to them by Scythians :laugh:

Why aren't we Indo-Aryan speakers then?
We didn't worship them, they just became like us :naughty: They were subjugated to Turks in that case.

We can't say same for the folks from Transcaucasus all the way to Bangladesh xD

Hadouken
07-24-2018, 11:21 PM
we wuz nordic n shiet

cyberlorian
07-24-2018, 11:22 PM
They migrated to siberia, had fun with the women there and created the Turkic identity.

So to break it down for you:

Proto-IE people+Yamnaya=Proto-indo iranian

Proto-Indo-Iranians+Native siberian=Proto-Turkic identity

Proto-Indo-Iranian+Bmac=Iranic identity

What is Bmac?

Hadouken
07-24-2018, 11:23 PM
What is Bmac?

bring me a chick

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:24 PM
Why aren't we Indo-Aryan speakers then?
We didn't worship them, they just became like us :naugthy:

We can't say same for the folks from Transcaucasus all the way to Bangladesh xD

Iranians didn't worship them either, instead they just carried on the legacy, as for Turks, they just learned the culture and ran around East Asia for over a millenia before migrating to Europe. There's no specific evidence that shows Afansievo admixture in Proto-Turks you OWD retard, Afansievo were first of all proto-Tocharians that ended up in the Tarim Basin, and you are the last to be associated with them. Your identification with Tocharians and Gökturks would equal to me claiming Scytho-Sarmatians were the ancestors of Kurds and Persians.

Good thing I saved all your brainless comments in my signature, just a reminder of how stupid you actually are :laugh:

Babak
07-24-2018, 11:26 PM
Iranians didn't worship them either, instead they just carried on the legacy, as for Turks, they just learned the culture and ran around East Asia for over a millenia before migrating to Europe. There's no specific evidence that shows Afansievo admixture in Proto-Turks you OWD retard, Afansievo were first of all proto-Tocharians that ended up in the Tarim Basin, and you are the last to be associated with them. Your identification with Tocharians and Gökturks would equal to me claiming Scytho-Sarmatians were the ancestors to Kurds.

Good thing I saved all your brainless comments in my signature, just a reminder of how stupid you actually are :laugh:

lmao ran around

Babak
07-24-2018, 11:26 PM
What is Bmac?

Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:27 PM
lmao ran around

Its so cringe to see some mongrel mix of Laz and Turkmen claim onto Afansievo and other people that are totally unrelated to him, its really fucking cringe.

Böri
07-24-2018, 11:27 PM
Iranians didn't worship them either, instead they just carried on the legacy, as for Turks, they just learned the culture and ran around East Asia for over a millenia before migrating to Europe. There's no specific evidence that shows Afansievo admixture in Proto-Turks you OWD retard, Afansievo were first of all proto-Tocharians that ended up in the Tarim Basin, and you are the last to be associated with them. Your identification with Tocharians and Gökturks would equal to me claiming Scytho-Sarmatians were the ancestors of Kurds and Persians.

Good thing I saved all your brainless comments in my signature, just a reminder of how stupid you actually are :laugh:

Are you blond, 190cm tall, blue eyed? If not, language you speak doesn't match with your look xD

I didn't claim ancestry from Afanesovan. That's a genetic flow. There is no cultural effect, since Turks didn't assimilate into them like all the mass from Transcaucasus to Sri Lanka did ;)

Babak
07-24-2018, 11:30 PM
Are you blond, 190cm tall, blue eyed? If not, language you speak doesn't match with your look xD

I didn't claim ancestry from Afanesovan. That's a genetic flow. There is no cultural effect, since Turks didn't assimilate into them like all the mass from Transcaucasus to Sri Lanka did ;)

Since when did turks look like gokturks? They were 70% mongoloid for fucks sake.

Token
07-24-2018, 11:31 PM
Early Turks were, in fact, partly Sintashta-derived, so modern Turkics still score a good chunk of early Indo-Iranian ancestry.

Karluk_Medieval
"Scythian_Pazyryk" 42.6
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" 21.8
"Mongola" 17.05
"Srubnaya_MLBA" 13.55
"Nganassan" 3.75
"Sintashta_MLBA" 1.2
"Yukagir_Tundra" 0.05
"Sarmatian_Pokrovka" 0

Modern Turkmen
"Karluk_Medieval" 54
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" 21.35
"Sintashta_MLBA" 19.9
"Mongola" 4.7

Modern Turkmens owe around 25% of their genome to early Indo-Iranians, which was probably absorbed by their ancestors from the Scythians.

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:31 PM
Are you blond, 190cm tall, blue eyed? If not, language you speak doesn't match with your look xD

I didn't claim ancestry from Afanesovan. That's a genetic flow. There is no cultural effect, since Turks didn't assimilate into them like all the mass from Transcaucasus to Sri Lanka did ;)

There is no genetical flow from Afansiveo to Turks, thats something you claim but cannot backup, no samples or whatsoever.

I am actually 190cm, but no, I don't happen to have light eyes or hair nor do I care, but the same could be applied to you my confused Turkish friend, you are neither fully Mongoloid, nor have any of the features you just listed.

Most of the Turkic genepool in Central Asia is assimilated, you can't deny that. Even Turks of Turkey and especially Azeris are assimilated with almost no genetical contribution from actual Turkic people, instead its a linguistic shift.

The same applies for some Tatars and Chuvash people, assimilated people.


Early Turks were, in fact, partly Sintashta-derived, so modern Turkics still score a good chunk of early Indo-Iranian ancestry.

Karluk_Medieval
"Scythian_Pazyryk" 42.6
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" 21.8
"Mongola" 17.05
"Srubnaya_MLBA" 13.55
"Nganassan" 3.75
"Sintashta_MLBA" 1.2
"Yukagir_Tundra" 0.05
"Sarmatian_Pokrovka" 0

Modern Turkmen
"Karluk_Medieval" 54
"Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" 21.35
"Sintashta_MLBA" 19.9
"Mongola" 4.7

Modern Turkmens owe around 25% of their genome to early Indo-Iranians, which was probably absorbed by their ancestors from the Scythians.

Modern Turkmens are partially East Iranian of ancestry, same goes for Uzbeks.

Böri
07-24-2018, 11:36 PM
There is no genetical flow from Afansiveo to Turks, thats something you claim but cannot backup, no samples or whatsoever.

I am actually 190cm, but no, I don't happen to have light eyes or hair nor do I care, but the same could be applied to you my confused Turkish friend, you are neither fully Mongoloid, nor have any of the features you just listed.

Most of the Turkic genepool in Central Asia is assimilated, you can't deny that. Even Turks of Turkey and especially Azeris are assimilated with almost no genetical contribution from actual Turkic people, instead its a linguistic shift.

The same applies for some Tatars and Chuvash people, assimilated people.


You are Iranian just as Jamaican Usain Bolt is Anglo-Saxon. xD

Worry not, Sardinians are in even worse situation than you. They score almost no PIE Yamna. They are fully native farmers.

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:39 PM
You are Iranian just as Jamaican Usain Bolt is Anglo-Saxon. xD

Worry not, Sardinians are in even worse situation than you. They score almost no PIE Yamna. They are fully native farmers.

Guess what, I don't care :)

The problem is when an assimilated Kavazian starts claiming left and right when he doesn't have anything to do with mentioned cultures / populations :cool:

Böri
07-24-2018, 11:55 PM
Where is butlerking ? In tears now?

Aren
07-24-2018, 11:57 PM
You are Iranian just as Jamaican Usain Bolt is Anglo-Saxon. xD

Worry not, Sardinians are in even worse situation than you. They score almost no PIE Yamna. They are fully native farmers.

Kurds only have slightly less Sintashta related ancestry than Anatolian Turks have actual Turkic input.
But if we use the Iron Age/Late Bronze Age samples from Turan who seem to be 50% Sintashta + 50% BMAC as a proxy for early Iranian speakers then Kurds have almost 30% of that kind of admix.

Pahli
07-24-2018, 11:59 PM
Kurds only have slightly less Sintashta related ancestry than Anatolian Turks have actual Turkic input.
But if we use the Iron Age/Late Bronze Age samples from Turan who seem to be 50% Sintashta + 50% BMAC as a proxy for early Iranian speakers then Kurds have almost 30% of that kind of admix.

Exactly, Modern West Iranians like Persians or Kurds never had direct Indo-Iranian ancestry like Tajiks, Pamiris or Pashtuns, so it makes it perfect sense that we have less Steppe admix.

People have to consider the fact that those tribes were outnumbered by the native populations of Iran, otherwise the story would have been different today.

Hadouken
07-25-2018, 12:01 AM
what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

Böri
07-25-2018, 12:01 AM
Kurds only have slightly less Sintashta related ancestry than Anatolian Turks have actual Turkic input.
But if we use the Iron Age/Late Bronze Age samples from Turan who seem to be 50% Sintashta + 50% BMAC as a proxy for early Iranian speakers then Kurds have almost 30% of that kind of admix.

That’s the ancestral OWD which native Mesopotamian people like you had. You wanted to become Arya now see the result.
That’s not just Kurds in fact. That applies from Spain to Bangladesh including Greeks, Albanians and Armenians.

Pahli
07-25-2018, 12:01 AM
Everyone is OWD except Böri, wow xD

Hadouken
07-25-2018, 12:02 AM
what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

Aren
07-25-2018, 12:06 AM
Exactly, Modern West Iranians like Persians or Kurds never had direct Indo-Iranian ancestry like Tajiks, Pamiris or Pashtuns, so it makes it perfect sense that we have less Steppe admix.

People have to consider the fact that those tribes were outnumbered by the native populations of Iran, otherwise the story would have been different today.

Pretty much same scenario in Europe. Which is why Scandinavias and Brits have preserved the Steppe admix in much higher percentages than Southern Europeans. And Balts/Finns preserved the local HG admix to a much higher degree than say Albanians or Greeks. There were already proto-cities in the Balkans before the IE migrations.

Pahli
07-25-2018, 12:09 AM
Pretty much same scenario in Europe. Which is why Scandinavias and Brits have preserved the Steppe admix in much higher percentages than Southern Europeans. And Balts/Finns preserved the local HG admix to a much higher degree than say Albanians or Greeks. There were already proto-cities in the Balkans before the IE migrations.

The HGs of Southern Europe got absorbed into the farmers from Anatolia, even after the Steppe invasion they are still dominantly more farmer than HG today.

Aren
07-25-2018, 12:12 AM
That’s the ancestral OWD which native Mesopotamian people like you had. You wanted to become Arya now see the result.
That’s not just Kurds in fact. That applies from Spain to Bangladesh including Greeks, Albanians and Armenians.

LIKE ME?! HAHA
If we wanted to be "Arya" we would've been by now. We've been living in close proximity to Iranic speakers for maybe two millenias yet we are not nearly as Persianfied as you Turks and especially your ancestors who adopted everything Persian.
Also Assyrians have no Steppe admix.

Hadouken
07-25-2018, 12:13 AM
so what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

pahli

Pahli
07-25-2018, 12:14 AM
so what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

pahli

I am not sure to be honest, isn't there an explanation for the different components on their website?

Hadouken
07-25-2018, 12:16 AM
I am not sure to be honest, isn't there an explanation for the different components on their website?

I mean how much relation does it have to this thread . because I noticed that allmost all iranics have some of it at least

mine :

http://up.picr.de/32099843if.jpg

Pahli
07-25-2018, 12:20 AM
I mean how much relation does it have to this thread . because I noticed that allmost all iranics have some of it at least

mine :

http://up.picr.de/32099843if.jpg

I assume Indo-Iranian is Steppe like ancestry while Indus Valley is some kind of Gedrosian admixture.

Makes sense if you get 12% Steppe, I'll post mine:

https://i.imgur.com/Y2eM6P5.png

But it doesn't make sense, I get 24% Indo-Iranian??? Something doesn't match up here, I generally don't like DNA.land because of its bad results

Babak
07-25-2018, 01:17 AM
I assume Indo-Iranian is Steppe like ancestry while Indus Valley is some kind of Gedrosian admixture.

Makes sense if you get 12% Steppe, I'll post mine:

https://i.imgur.com/Y2eM6P5.png

But it doesn't make sense, I get 24% Indo-Iranian??? Something doesn't match up here, I generally don't like DNA.land because of its bad resultsIndo iranian is south asian. You are 24% steppe bro

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Hadouken
07-25-2018, 01:26 AM
Indo iranian is south asian. You are 24% steppe bro

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no it's not

dravidian and bengali are south asian

Pahli
07-25-2018, 01:27 AM
Indo iranian is south asian. You are 24% steppe bro

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Its not South Asian, I don't have 24% South Asian xD

Hadouken
07-25-2018, 01:28 AM
Its not South Asian, I don't have 24% South Asian xD

:lol:

Babak
07-25-2018, 01:34 AM
Its not South Asian, I don't have 24% South Asian xD

gedrosia? idk

zarzian
07-25-2018, 01:37 AM
Andronovans were Iranicised Europeans, Original Aryans were Brown Haired andbrown Eyed and were from south of the caucasus. Some of them went north, crossing the caucasus some of them dispersed into Northern Forest Steppes and assimilated blonde hunter gatherers some of their remnants became andronovo and the like.

Pahli
07-25-2018, 01:45 AM
Andronovans were Iranicised Europeans, Original Aryans were Brown Haired andbrown Eyed and were from south of the caucasus. Some of them went north, crossing the caucasus some of them dispersed into Northern Forest Steppes and assimilated blonde hunter gatherers some of their remnants became andronovo and the like.

It was a cultural fusion between a EHG and Iran_CHL like populations, although they were all paternally EHG as seen from y-dna, question is which population was the most influential linguistically.

Thambi
07-25-2018, 02:01 AM
gedrosia? idk

yeah its gedrosian. indo-iranian on dnaland includes balochi, brahui, makrani

Aren
07-25-2018, 02:03 AM
Andronovans were Iranicised Europeans, Original Aryans were Brown Haired andbrown Eyed and were from south of the caucasus. Some of them went north, crossing the caucasus some of them dispersed into Northern Forest Steppes and assimilated blonde hunter gatherers some of their remnants became andronovo and the like.

No R1b-M269 or R1a-M417 has been found in the numerous amounts of samples from Armenia, Iran, Anatolia or Central Asia from the Chalcolithic and the Neolithic period. Only one dubious sample from Hajji Firuz tepe which has EHG admix and will probably be dated to around the same period as the 50% Yamnaya-like Bronze Age sample from the same site once it's carbon dated. Meanwhile both of the mentioned haplogroups have been found in Eastern Europe prior to Yamnaya.
And neither Maykop, Kura-Axes or Iran_Chl can be ancestral to Yamnaya cause they had way too much Anatolia/Levant input. So the CHG-like input in the Steppe predates those cultures and were entirely female mediated.
Not to mention most linguists place Early PIE somewhere in close proximity to Proto-Uralic ie somewhere on the Pontic-Caspian Steppe.

Also how strange would it be for PIE to originate somewhere around Armenia or NW Iran yet from all of the written records of the Sumerians, Assyrians etc tell us that the area was inhabited by non-IE speakers by atleast the early 3rd millenia until Iranian speakers show up. And why would pre-proto Indo-Iranian start of in say Armenia, head north of the Caucasus mountains onto the Steppes then migrate east of the Caspian sea and then make it's way down south to the Iranian plateau instead of just simply staying put lol.

zarzian
07-25-2018, 02:16 AM
It was a cultural fusion between a EHG and Iran_CHL like populations, although they were all paternally EHG as seen from y-dna, question is which population was the most influential linguistically.

Paternally EHG? No, Western Iranians were J2 and R1b Z2013 and this Haplogroup has never been found in a Pure EHG population but has been dound in Haji firuz Iran in the Chalcolithic age, before Yamnaya.

Babak
07-25-2018, 01:08 PM
no it's not

dravidian and bengali are south asian

lol its gedrosia, my bad

Babak
07-25-2018, 01:10 PM
LIKE ME?! HAHA
If we wanted to be "Arya" we would've been by now. We've been living in close proximity to Iranic speakers for maybe two millenias yet we are not nearly as Persianfied as you Turks and especially your ancestors who adopted everything Persian.
Also Assyrians have no Steppe admix.

I heard somewhere that you guys have up to 15% steppe(from ancient mitanis), but I don't believe it.

Pahli
07-25-2018, 01:14 PM
I heard somewhere that you guys have up to 15% steppe(from ancient mitanis), but I don't believe it.

Some Assyrians have Steppe, but its lower than the Kurds.

Kamal900
07-25-2018, 01:21 PM
Some Assyrians have Steppe, but its lower than the Kurds.

How much is it among Levantines and Arabians if such admixture exist in such populations at all? I don't think Arabians got it, but the Shammari Arabians seem to have high frequency of R1a which is weird. The same goes to the Jewish Levites.

Pahli
07-25-2018, 01:23 PM
How much is it among Levantines and Arabians if such admixture exist in such populations at all? I don't think Arabians got it, but the Shammari Arabians seem to have high frequency of R1a which is weird. The same goes to the Jewish Levites.

Up to half of what Kurds have I think, but I am not sure.

Kamal900
07-25-2018, 01:25 PM
Up to half of what Kurds have I think, but I am not sure.

Which calculator should I use to show you my steppe ancestry?

Pahli
07-25-2018, 01:37 PM
Which calculator should I use to show you my steppe ancestry?

There was one calculator that showed Steppe admix.

I got 12% on it, but I don't remember which one it was but its not on Gedmatch AFAIK

Token
07-25-2018, 01:53 PM
Which calculator should I use to show you my steppe ancestry?

You should try to model your ancestry with Globe25 or ask someone to do it for you, there are no calculators that can accurately detect steppe ancestry.

Myanthropologies
07-25-2018, 01:58 PM
I mean how much relation does it have to this thread . because I noticed that allmost all iranics have some of it at least

mine :

http://up.picr.de/32099843if.jpg


I assume Indo-Iranian is Steppe like ancestry while Indus Valley is some kind of Gedrosian admixture.

Makes sense if you get 12% Steppe, I'll post mine:

https://i.imgur.com/Y2eM6P5.png

But it doesn't make sense, I get 24% Indo-Iranian??? Something doesn't match up here, I generally don't like DNA.land because of its bad results


Indo iranian is south asian. You are 24% steppe bro

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Indo-Iranian is neither steppe nor proper South Asian, but based off of Balochi. Indus Valley is based off of Pakistani Pashtuns and Kalash/Burusho

whatamidoinghere
07-25-2018, 02:02 PM
This makes a lot of sense.
North Swedes doesn't have as high Yamnaya admixture as Highland Scots and Irish or West Norwegians, but they do have a fair amount and higher amount of ANE, this is from non-Yamnaya admixture as well as from Yamnaya admixture.
Anyway, i think it is the same case with the Early Indo Iranians as well.

Also you can see North Caucasian populations in the Mixed Mode Population Sharing, i think it is to make up for the rest of the Yamnaya admixture.

Arhat
07-25-2018, 07:14 PM
Andronovo:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 55.73
2 West_Asia 17.68
3 SW_Europe 17.59
4 South_Asia 4.08
5 Siberia 2.47
6 Americas 2.4
7 Oceania 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovian 10.44
2 Russian 12.06
3 Belarusian 13.22
4 Ukrainian 13.46
5 Polish 13.99
6 Estonian 16.06
7 Slovak 16.19
8 German_North 16.64
9 Lithuanian 16.76
10 Latvian 16.94
11 Swedish 17.14
12 Norwegian 17.21
13 Moldavian 17.91
14 Slovene 18.04
15 Tatar 18.27
16 Hungarian 19.13
17 Irish 19.81
18 Utahn_European 20.09
19 Scottish 20.11
20 Orcadian 20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Lithuanian + 26.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.71
2 70.4% Latvian + 29.6% Tadjik @ 4.77
3 70.7% Lithuanian + 29.3% Tadjik @ 4.79
4 73.6% Latvian + 26.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.79
5 74.8% Estonian + 25.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.98
6 74.8% Lithuanian + 25.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.1
7 74.6% Latvian + 25.4% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.16
8 71.8% Estonian + 28.2% Tadjik @ 5.22
9 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Pathan @ 5.25
10 75.8% Estonian + 24.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.34
11 77.5% Lithuanian + 22.5% Balochi @ 5.4
12 75.3% Latvian + 24.7% Pathan @ 5.4
13 76.4% Estonian + 23.6% Pathan @ 5.41
14 77.3% Latvian + 22.7% Balochi @ 5.45
15 78.1% Lithuanian + 21.9% Brahui @ 5.49
16 77.9% Latvian + 22.1% Brahui @ 5.56
17 77.9% Lithuanian + 22.1% Makrani @ 5.63
18 78.4% Estonian + 21.6% Balochi @ 5.66
19 79% Estonian + 21% Brahui @ 5.74
20 78.8% Estonian + 21.2% Makrani @ 5.78


Scythian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 47.19
2 West_Asia 24.04
3 SW_Europe 13.65
4 Siberia 6.75
5 South_Asia 3.11
6 Americas 3.02
7 NE_Asia 1.25
8 SE_Asia 0.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 13.67
2 Chuvash 18.02
3 Mordovian 18.65
4 Moldavian 20.39
5 Ukrainian 20.91
6 Slovak 21.29
7 Russian 21.49
8 Aluet 22
9 Slovene 22.5
10 Belarusian 22.63
11 Bosnian 22.88
12 Hungarian 23.42
13 German_North 23.45
14 Croatian 24.21
15 Polish 24.37
16 Romanian 24.4
17 Serbian 24.51
18 Montenegrin 25.27
19 Norwegian 25.31
20 Scottish 25.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Mordovian + 37.7% Tadjik @ 7.16
2 51.8% Latvian + 48.2% Tadjik @ 7.24
3 51.9% Lithuanian + 48.1% Tadjik @ 7.38
4 58.5% Russian + 41.5% Tadjik @ 7.41
5 67.8% Mordovian + 32.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 7.44
6 50.3% Tadjik + 49.7% Finnish @ 7.58
7 50.8% Chechen + 49.2% Finnish @ 7.66
8 52.7% Estonian + 47.3% Tadjik @ 7.72
9 70.3% Mordovian + 29.7% Pathan @ 7.93
10 69.6% Mordovian + 30.4% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 8.08
11 64.4% Russian + 35.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 8.18
12 73.7% Mordovian + 26.3% Makrani @ 8.21
13 73.2% Mordovian + 26.8% Balochi @ 8.25
14 74% Mordovian + 26% Brahui @ 8.3
15 62.3% Mordovian + 37.7% Chechen @ 8.39
16 55.2% Polish + 44.8% Tadjik @ 8.43
17 50.2% Kumyk + 49.8% Finnish @ 8.44
18 55.7% Finnish + 44.3% Dagestan_Azeri @ 8.53
19 53.7% Finnish + 46.3% Adygei @ 8.73
20 67% Russian + 33% Pathan @ 8.81

Andronovans seem to be similar to me

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cossack_Zaporozhie @ 10.835595
2 Belarusian_East_EastBelarus @ 11.850058
3 Ukrainians_north_NorthUkraine @ 12.070934
4 Belarusian_West_WestBelarus @ 12.210099
5 Russian_SouthRussia @ 12.622813
6 Mishar-Tatar_Mordovia @ 12.926311
7 Russian_CentralRussia @ 12.958581
8 Russian_Tver @ 13.056159
9 Russian_cossack_Kuban @ 13.101100
10 Cossack_Kuban @ 13.102342
11 Pole_Wroclaw @ 13.282867
12 Ukrainian_Ukraine @ 13.439185
13 Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 13.492621
14 Erzya_Moksha_Mordovia @ 13.546583
15 Dane_Denmark @ 13.601009
16 Pole_Poland @ 13.623476
17 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest @ 13.788994
18 Belarusian_Belarus @ 13.982770
19 Czech_Czechia @ 13.995476
20 Pole_EastPoland @ 14.020331

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Latvian_Dobele_Dobele +50% Yaghnobi_Zarafshan @ 5.548567


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Belarus +25% Pashtun_Pakistan +25% Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.440655

Least-squares method.


puntDNAL K12 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 7.223065
2 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 7.299742
3 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 8.588803
4 Potapovka_I0419 @ 8.666283
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 8.681982
6 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 9.751555
7 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 10.266750
8 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 10.840664
9 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 10.953977
10 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 11.032297
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 13.007627
12 Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 13.453195
13 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 13.946106
14 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 14.313983
15 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 14.779659
16 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 15.065624
17 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 15.547799
18 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 15.582636
19 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 19.016632
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 22.365128

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +50% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
1 Potapovka_I0419 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.928871
2 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962
3 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.014722
4 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.116191
5 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.123157

Babak
07-25-2018, 07:16 PM
Andronovans seem to be similar to me

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cossack_Zaporozhie @ 10.835595
2 Belarusian_East_EastBelarus @ 11.850058
3 Ukrainians_north_NorthUkraine @ 12.070934
4 Belarusian_West_WestBelarus @ 12.210099
5 Russian_SouthRussia @ 12.622813
6 Mishar-Tatar_Mordovia @ 12.926311
7 Russian_CentralRussia @ 12.958581
8 Russian_Tver @ 13.056159
9 Russian_cossack_Kuban @ 13.101100
10 Cossack_Kuban @ 13.102342
11 Pole_Wroclaw @ 13.282867
12 Ukrainian_Ukraine @ 13.439185
13 Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 13.492621
14 Erzya_Moksha_Mordovia @ 13.546583
15 Dane_Denmark @ 13.601009
16 Pole_Poland @ 13.623476
17 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest @ 13.788994
18 Belarusian_Belarus @ 13.982770
19 Czech_Czechia @ 13.995476
20 Pole_EastPoland @ 14.020331

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Latvian_Dobele_Dobele +50% Yaghnobi_Zarafshan @ 5.548567


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Belarus +25% Pashtun_Pakistan +25% Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.440655

Least-squares method.


puntDNAL K12 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 7.223065
2 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 7.299742
3 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 8.588803
4 Potapovka_I0419 @ 8.666283
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 8.681982
6 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 9.751555
7 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 10.266750
8 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 10.840664
9 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 10.953977
10 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 11.032297
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 13.007627
12 Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 13.453195
13 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 13.946106
14 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 14.313983
15 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 14.779659
16 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 15.065624
17 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 15.547799
18 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 15.582636
19 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 19.016632
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 22.365128

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +50% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
1 Potapovka_I0419 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.928871
2 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962
3 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.014722
4 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.116191
5 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.123157
6 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.128452
7 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Poltavka_I0440 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.134131
8 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.163544
9 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.169954
10 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.194356
11 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.200688
12 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.201467
13 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Poltavka_I0440 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.202596
14 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.224353
15 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.238539
16 Yamnaya_Samara_I0231 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.244189
17 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Yamnaya_Kalmykia_SG_RISE552 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.254797
18 Potapovka_I0419 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.257424

Yea i remember you are half pashtun

Myanthropologies
07-25-2018, 07:17 PM
This makes a lot of sense.
North Swedes doesn't have as high Yamnaya admixture as Highland Scots and Irish or West Norwegians, but they do have a fair amount and higher amount of ANE, this is from non-Yamnaya admixture as well as from Yamnaya admixture.
Anyway, i think it is the same case with the Early Indo Iranians as well.

Also you can see North Caucasian populations in the Mixed Mode Population Sharing, i think it is to make up for the rest of the Yamnaya admixture.

recently, Anatolian-farmer related ancestry was found in Yamnaya, too.

Peterski
07-28-2018, 09:17 AM
Kashkarchi_BA

1 Baltic 37.39
2 North_Atlantic 35.93
3 West_Asian 17.85
4 South_Asian 4.85
5 Amerindian 3.97

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 17.15
(...)

Amazing! Uzbekistan still has a Polish minority of over 5,000 people today!:

https://www.rosjapl.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6745

http://www.bip.udskior.gov.pl/Pielgrzymka,do,polskich,mogil,w,Uzbekistanie,365.h tml

So ancient DNA shows, that Poles have been living in Uzbekistan since the Bronze Age! This sample of Andronovo culture from the Ferghana Valley (Kashkarchi BA) resembles modern Southern Poles, interestingly already inscriptions from Penjikent Murals mentioned the ancient Indo-European kingdom known as Polouna (the name strikingly similar to Poland!) located in Ferghana Valley in Uzbekistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjakent

Eurogenes K13 (GEDmatch kit: Z596095):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.77
2 North_Atlantic 34.33
3 West_Asian 19.42
4 South_Asian 7.85
5 Amerindian 2.42
6 Oceanian 0.61
7 Siberian 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 18.64
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.17
3 Hungarian 19.26
4 North_Swedish 19.28
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.39
6 East_German 19.63
7 Polish 19.7
8 Southwest_Finnish 20.07
9 Austrian 20.18
10 Ukrainian 20.18
11 Croatian 20.44
12 North_German 20.44
13 Southwest_Russian 20.49
14 Russian_Smolensk 20.65
15 Swedish 20.69
16 Moldavian 21.15
17 Finnish 21.21
18 Kargopol_Russian 21.56
19 Belorussian 21.84
20 Estonian_Polish 22.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.1% Southwest_Finnish + 25.9% Balochi @ 8.65
2 72.1% North_Swedish + 27.9% Kalash @ 8.86
3 74.8% Southwest_Finnish + 25.2% Brahui @ 8.87
4 75.3% North_Swedish + 24.7% Balochi @ 9.14
5 71.3% Southwest_Finnish + 28.7% Kalash @ 9.17
6 76% North_Swedish + 24% Brahui @ 9.32
7 68.8% Southwest_Finnish + 31.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 9.61
8 66% Southwest_Finnish + 34% Tabassaran @ 9.64
9 69.9% North_Swedish + 30.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 9.65
10 74.8% Southwest_Finnish + 25.2% Makrani @ 9.75
11 67.2% North_Swedish + 32.8% Tabassaran @ 9.78
12 73.4% Finnish + 26.6% Balochi @ 10
13 76% North_Swedish + 24% Makrani @ 10.14
14 74.1% Finnish + 25.9% Brahui @ 10.25
15 73.9% North_Swedish + 26.1% Pathan @ 10.34
16 69.3% North_Swedish + 30.7% Lezgin @ 10.47
17 68.1% Southwest_Finnish + 31.9% Lezgin @ 10.61
18 72.5% Estonian + 27.5% Balochi @ 10.64
19 74.2% North_Swedish + 25.8% Burusho @ 10.66
20 73.8% North_Swedish + 26.2% Punjabi_Jat @ 10.68

4-Ancestors Oracle:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_Finnish +50% Tabassaran @ 14.463137

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Kalash +25% Norwegian @ 9.119610

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Balochi + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Norwegian @ 8.370392
2 Balochi + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Swedish @ 8.432461
3 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 8.480879
4 Balochi + Finnish + La_Brana-1 + Norwegian @ 8.552832
5 Balochi + Finnish + La_Brana-1 + Swedish @ 8.559880
6 Balochi + Estonian + Finnish + Norwegian @ 8.569458
7 Balochi + Finnish + Finnish + Norwegian @ 8.593864
8 Brahui + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Norwegian @ 8.629576
9 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Swedish @ 8.667940
10 Balochi + Finnish + Finnish + Swedish @ 8.683908
11 Balochi + Estonian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 8.691397
12 Brahui + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Swedish @ 8.698501
13 Balochi + Estonian + Finnish + Swedish @ 8.719524
14 Balochi + Estonian + Estonian + Norwegian @ 8.737104
15 Brahui + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 8.754449
16 Balochi + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 8.761224
17 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish @ 8.806540
18 Balochi + Finnish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 8.806760
19 Balochi + Estonian + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish @ 8.817391
20 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + North_Swedish + Southwest_Finnish @ 8.825765

Aren
07-28-2018, 09:21 AM
recently, Anatolian-farmer related ancestry was found in Yamnaya, too.

But coming from an farmer group rich in WHG though. Likely from the neighbouring European farmers of GAC or Trypillia.

Gangrel
07-28-2018, 12:15 PM
I got mad high steppe yo

Gangrel
07-28-2018, 12:16 PM
I got mad high steppe yo

https://i.imgur.com/hnyJwCg.png

Myanthropologies
07-28-2018, 04:20 PM
But coming from an farmer group rich in WHG though. Likely from the neighbouring European farmers of GAC or Trypillia.

Yes, Global Amphora was likely the source.

Pahli
08-31-2018, 04:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hnyJwCg.png

white af, wheres your wimenz

Gangrel
08-31-2018, 05:31 PM
white af, wheres your wimenz

Wtf are you talking about you KIRO

This proves that Scythians were 100% Turan

Pahli
08-31-2018, 05:40 PM
Wtf are you talking about you KIRO

This proves that Scythians were 100% Turan

gtfo turan is an iranian word, fkin imposer, which side u on kardesh?

Leto
09-14-2018, 05:36 PM
From the recent Central/South Asian paper. Credit to @LukaszM for uploading these guys to GM

Kit No.: Z092581
Y-DNA: R1a1
mtDNA: U2e1
Date: 1611-1503 BCE
SNP count: 270,236

Kit No.: Z303460
Y-DNA: R1a1a1b
mtDNA: H1
Date: 1610-1454 BCE
SNP count: 376,263

Kit No.: Z740946
Y-DNA: -
mtDNA: J1c2
Date: 1640-1527 BCE
SNP count: 392,006

Kit No.: Z523705
Y-DNA: -
mtDNA: U5b2b
Date: 1736-1621 BCE
SNP count: 410,359

Leto
09-14-2018, 05:47 PM
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:


Kit Z092581

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 49.12
2 Atlantic_Med 21.16
3 Gedrosia 18.34
4 Caucasus 4.9
5 Siberian 4.62
6 East_African 1.02
7 South_Asian 0.68
8 Southeast_Asian 0.16


Kit Z303460

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 52.91
2 Gedrosia 18.5
3 Atlantic_Med 18.31
4 South_Asian 3.05
5 Siberian 2.86
6 Caucasus 1.99
7 East_Asian 0.84
8 Southeast_Asian 0.6
9 Sub_Saharan 0.57
10 East_African 0.37


Kit Z740946

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 46.7
2 Gedrosia 20.75
3 Atlantic_Med 18.84
4 Siberian 5.4
5 Caucasus 5.16
6 South_Asian 1.58
7 East_Asian 1.02
8 Sub_Saharan 0.55


Kit Z523705

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 54.5
2 Atlantic_Med 19.46
3 Gedrosia 19.22
4 Siberian 2.99
5 South_Asian 2.21
6 Caucasus 0.99
7 Sub_Saharan 0.43
8 Southeast_Asian 0.19

Proto-Shaman
01-01-2019, 12:54 AM
gtfo turan is an iranian word,
nice one :rotfl::rotfl:

Leto
02-26-2019, 04:08 PM
From the recent Central/South Asian paper. Credit to @LukaszM for uploading these guys to GM

Kit No.: Z092581
Y-DNA: R1a1
mtDNA: U2e1
Date: 1611-1503 BCE
SNP count: 270,236

Kit No.: Z303460
Y-DNA: R1a1a1b
mtDNA: H1
Date: 1610-1454 BCE
SNP count: 376,263

Kit No.: Z740946
Y-DNA: -
mtDNA: J1c2
Date: 1640-1527 BCE
SNP count: 392,006

Kit No.: Z523705
Y-DNA: -
mtDNA: U5b2b
Date: 1736-1621 BCE
SNP count: 410,359
Why have they been deleted? The two BA Fergana samples (Kashkarchi) are also gone...

Token
02-26-2019, 10:33 PM
Why have they been deleted? The two BA Fergana samples (Kashkarchi) are also gone...

For some reason a llot of kits were deleted out of nowhere.

Kamal900
02-26-2019, 10:55 PM
For some reason a llot of kits were deleted out of nowhere.

They took out the ancient Egyptian ones as well.

Proto-Shaman
02-27-2019, 12:05 PM
They took out the ancient Egyptian ones as well.
becoz zey want to haid äncent Turishka empaya

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 02:57 AM
Andronovo - RISE500

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.41
2 Baltic 38.28
3 West_Asian 15.04
4 South_Asian 1.59
5 Amerindian 0.59
6 West_Med 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 12.86
2 Swedish 14.06
3 Southwest_Finnish 15.54
4 North_German 15.66
5 Norwegian 16.01
6 Danish 17.1
7 North_Dutch 17.51
8 East_German 18.09
9 Finnish 18.27
10 South_Polish 18.31
11 Polish 18.86
12 Austrian 19.06
13 Estonian 19.65
14 Irish 19.69
15 La_Brana-1 19.85
16 Hungarian 19.88
17 Orcadian 19.93
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.42
19 Russian_Smolensk 20.45
20 West_Scottish 20.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% North_Swedish + 15.1% Tabassaran @ 10.34
2 86.1% North_Swedish + 13.9% Lezgin @ 10.58
3 86.8% North_Swedish + 13.2% Chechen @ 10.84
4 90.3% North_Swedish + 9.7% Balochi @ 10.98
5 90.7% North_Swedish + 9.3% Brahui @ 11.06
6 89.7% North_Swedish + 10.3% Kalash @ 11.18
7 89.2% North_Swedish + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 11.29
8 91.1% North_Swedish + 8.9% Makrani @ 11.33
9 89.1% North_Swedish + 10.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.33
10 89.3% North_Swedish + 10.7% Adygei @ 11.37
11 89.1% North_Swedish + 10.9% Kabardin @ 11.46
12 90% North_Swedish + 10% Ossetian @ 11.48
13 91.6% North_Swedish + 8.4% Abhkasian @ 11.55
14 91.2% North_Swedish + 8.8% Georgian @ 11.56
15 89.6% North_Swedish + 10.4% Kumyk @ 11.61
16 90.1% North_Swedish + 9.9% Balkar @ 11.64
17 68.6% Swedish + 31.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 11.68
18 89.4% North_Swedish + 10.6% Tadjik @ 11.72
19 91.5% North_Swedish + 8.5% Pathan @ 11.72
20 61% Norwegian + 39% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 11.73

Sintashta

1 North_Atlantic 47.31
2 Baltic 38.38
3 West_Asian 11.65
4 West_Med 2.16
5 Sub-Saharan 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 10.02
2 Swedish 10.91
3 Norwegian 12.9
4 North_German 13.45
5 Southwest_Finnish 14.04
6 Danish 14.47
7 North_Dutch 14.75
8 East_German 16.91
9 Irish 17.06
10 Orcadian 17.2
11 Finnish 17.78
12 West_Scottish 17.89
13 Austrian 18.06
14 South_Polish 18.26
15 Polish 18.75
16 Southeast_English 18.98
17 La_Brana-1 19.11
18 Estonian 19.21
19 Hungarian 19.67
20 Southwest_English 20.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Swedish + 21.9% Lithuanian @ 9.23
2 69.7% Norwegian + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 9.24
3 92.5% North_Swedish + 7.5% Tabassaran @ 9.27
4 72.9% Swedish + 27.1% Finnish @ 9.34
5 75% Swedish + 25% Estonian @ 9.36
6 93.3% North_Swedish + 6.7% Lezgin @ 9.37
7 63.1% Norwegian + 36.9% Finnish @ 9.39
8 65.5% Norwegian + 34.5% Estonian @ 9.41
9 78.3% Swedish + 21.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.47
10 93.9% North_Swedish + 6.1% Chechen @ 9.49
11 82.9% Swedish + 17.1% Erzya @ 9.6
12 78% Swedish + 22% Belorussian @ 9.6
13 95.9% North_Swedish + 4.1% Balochi @ 9.61
14 79% Swedish + 21% East_Finnish @ 9.61
15 78.2% Swedish + 21.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 9.62
16 96.2% North_Swedish + 3.8% Brahui @ 9.65
17 69.4% Norwegian + 30.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.67
18 95.4% North_Swedish + 4.6% North_Ossetian @ 9.67
19 95.6% North_Swedish + 4.4% Adygei @ 9.7
20 96.1% North_Swedish + 3.9% Kalash @ 9.73

Kashkarchi_BA

1 Baltic 37.39
2 North_Atlantic 35.93
3 West_Asian 17.85
4 South_Asian 4.85
5 Amerindian 3.97

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 17.15
2 North_Swedish 17.36
3 Southwest_Finnish 17.7
4 Polish 17.73
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.79
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.98
7 Russian_Smolensk 18.75
8 Ukrainian 18.75
9 Hungarian 18.78
10 East_German 18.83
11 Southwest_Russian 18.87
12 Finnish 18.9
13 Swedish 19.24
14 North_German 19.64
15 Austrian 19.67
16 Belorussian 19.76
17 Estonian 19.77
18 Croatian 19.92
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.11
20 Estonian_Polish 20.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Southwest_Finnish + 28.6% Tabassaran @ 9.74
2 79.2% Southwest_Finnish + 20.8% Balochi @ 10.1
3 79.8% Southwest_Finnish + 20.2% Brahui @ 10.27
4 72.5% North_Swedish + 27.5% Tabassaran @ 10.36
5 73.3% Southwest_Finnish + 26.7% Lezgin @ 10.49
6 77.2% Southwest_Finnish + 22.8% Kalash @ 10.63
7 70.3% Finnish + 29.7% Tabassaran @ 10.83
8 74.3% North_Swedish + 25.7% Lezgin @ 10.85
9 73.7% Southwest_Finnish + 26.3% Chechen @ 10.86
10 78% North_Swedish + 22% Kalash @ 10.87
11 80% Southwest_Finnish + 20% Makrani @ 10.88
12 75.3% Southwest_Finnish + 24.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 10.88
13 80.4% North_Swedish + 19.6% Balochi @ 10.95
14 69.1% Estonian + 30.9% Tabassaran @ 11.05
15 81% North_Swedish + 19% Brahui @ 11.08
16 74.6% North_Swedish + 25.4% Chechen @ 11.18
17 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Balochi @ 11.34
18 76.3% North_Swedish + 23.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.34
19 79.1% Finnish + 20.9% Brahui @ 11.53
20 81.2% North_Swedish + 18.8% Makrani @ 11.62

Srubnaya M217196:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 44.75
2 Eastern_Euro 17.27
3 Atlantic 14.28
4 Baltic 12.68
5 West_Asian 10.02
6 South_Asian 0.48
7 West_Med 0.34
8 Amerindian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 12.8
2 Swedish 12.99
3 West_Norwegian 13.39
4 Norwegian 13.4
5 North_Dutch 16.41
6 Danish 16.58
7 North_German 17.7
8 Orcadian 17.95
9 West_German 18.27
10 Southwest_Finnish 18.52
11 Finnish 18.54
12 West_Scottish 18.85
13 Irish 19.47
14 Southeast_English 19.93
15 East_German 20.44
16 Southwest_English 20.49
17 South_Dutch 21.56
18 Hungarian 22.16
19 East_Finnish 22.33
20 Estonian 23.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% West_Norwegian + 16.2% Tabassaran @ 10.9
2 85.6% West_Norwegian + 14.4% Lezgin @ 11.26
3 86.4% Swedish + 13.6% Tabassaran @ 11.36
4 87.8% North_Swedish + 12.2% Tabassaran @ 11.52
5 87% West_Norwegian + 13% Chechen @ 11.59
6 85.7% Norwegian + 14.3% Tabassaran @ 11.61
7 88.5% Swedish + 11.5% Lezgin @ 11.73
8 89.9% North_Swedish + 10.1% Lezgin @ 11.85
9 87.6% Norwegian + 12.4% Lezgin @ 11.96
10 89% West_Norwegian + 11% Adygei @ 11.97
11 90.9% North_Swedish + 9.1% Chechen @ 11.98
12 88.6% West_Norwegian + 11.4% Kabardin @ 11.98
13 89.9% Swedish + 10.1% Chechen @ 11.98
14 88.1% West_Norwegian + 11.9% Kumyk @ 11.99
15 89.4% West_Norwegian + 10.6% Ossetian @ 12.02
16 89.5% West_Norwegian + 10.5% North_Ossetian @ 12.04
17 88.6% West_Norwegian + 11.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 12.04
18 89.8% West_Norwegian + 10.2% Kalash @ 12.05
19 89.2% West_Norwegian + 10.8% Balkar @ 12.08
20 91.1% West_Norwegian + 8.9% Abhkasian @ 12.12

Srubnaya M472767:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.53
2 Atlantic 19.79
3 Eastern_Euro 19.03
4 Baltic 16.73
5 West_Asian 11.25
6 South_Asian 2.69

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 11.08
2 North_Swedish 11.58
3 Finnish 12.06
4 East_German 12.79
5 North_German 13.41
6 Swedish 13.89
7 Hungarian 14.38
8 East_Finnish 14.68
9 Norwegian 14.77
10 South_Polish 14.86
11 Danish 14.93
12 Austrian 15.18
13 Polish 15.45
14 North_Dutch 15.68
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.96
16 Ukrainian 16.01
17 Estonian 16.1
18 West_Norwegian 16.67
19 Croatian 16.76
20 West_German 17.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% Southwest_Finnish + 19.6% Tabassaran @ 6.69
2 79.5% North_Swedish + 20.5% Tabassaran @ 6.8
3 80.3% North_Swedish + 19.7% Lezgin @ 6.81
4 81% North_Swedish + 19% Chechen @ 6.81
5 81.9% Southwest_Finnish + 18.1% Lezgin @ 7.17
6 82.6% Southwest_Finnish + 17.4% Chechen @ 7.26
7 82.9% North_Swedish + 17.1% Adygei @ 7.32
8 82.2% North_Swedish + 17.8% Kabardin @ 7.4
9 83.5% North_Swedish + 16.5% North_Ossetian @ 7.45
10 83% North_Swedish + 17% Balkar @ 7.67
11 83.9% North_Swedish + 16.1% Ossetian @ 7.76
12 82.1% North_Swedish + 17.9% Kumyk @ 7.84
13 86.3% North_Swedish + 13.7% Abhkasian @ 7.86
14 85.2% Southwest_Finnish + 14.8% Ossetian @ 7.89
15 84.8% Southwest_Finnish + 15.2% Adygei @ 7.9
16 87.4% Southwest_Finnish + 12.6% Abhkasian @ 7.96
17 85.8% North_Swedish + 14.2% Georgian @ 8
18 82.8% North_Swedish + 17.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 8.03
19 85.4% Southwest_Finnish + 14.6% North_Ossetian @ 8.04
20 86.9% Southwest_Finnish + 13.1% Georgian @ 8.05

Big time related to that last kit.

Largest segment = 4.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 103.2 cM (2.878 Pct)

62 shared segments found for this comparison.

574479 SNPs used for this comparison.

55.807 Pct SNPs are full identical