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StonyArabia
07-26-2018, 04:59 AM
Here is a Western Iraqi result:

1 Saudis @ 1.045
2 Yemen_Jews@ 2.375
3 Bedouin@ 3.573
4 Yemense@5.6713
4 Palestinian @9.1924
5 Jordanian @10.081
6. Egyptian @11.11
7.Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.317
8.Syrian @ 15.516
9.Lebanese_Christian@ 15.675
10. Iranian @14.43






50% Saudi 50% Yemen_ Jew
25% Egyptian 25% Yemense 50% Palestinian
25% Lebanese Muslim 25% Palestinian 25% Jordanian
25% Yemeni 25% Palestinian 50% Lebanese Muslim

1 Yemen_Jew+ Saudi + Saudis + Saudi @ 1.657
2 Bedouin + Bedouin+ Bedouin+ Jordanians @ 1.724
3 Palestinian+ Saudi+ Bedouin+ Yemen_Jew@ 1.746
4 Bedouin + Lebanese_Muslim+ Bedouin+ Yemenese @ 1.772
5 Bedouin + Jordanian+ Egyptian+ Saudi @ 1.978
6.Syrian+ Saudi+ Lebanese_Muslim+ Yemenese @ 3.016


No Iranian to be found lol. She is pretty much a true Arabian Bedouin

Dick
07-26-2018, 05:01 AM
Maybe she belongs to the Shammar tribe. Iraq is made up of different ethnicites/tribes or whatever though, eh?

Gangrel
07-26-2018, 05:13 AM
'here is ONE result'

Lol at myth. North Iraq was literally impregnated by Iran

StonyArabia
07-27-2018, 01:22 AM
'here is ONE result'

Lol at myth. North Iraq was literally impregnated by Iran

Yes the North has Kurds who are from Iran but not all of Iraq. The western region is quite Arabian.

Aren
07-27-2018, 01:29 AM
This is not up for discussion. An Iraqi Arab tested 50+ Iraqi citizens, with most being Iraqi Arabs and uploaded the samples to Gedmatch. Here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245352-Random-GEDmatch-kits/page5) are the kits and as you can see the overwhelming majority of the Arabs score significant amount of Iranian/Kurdish in the mixed modes. Usually Bedouin + Iranian.

zarzian
07-27-2018, 01:51 AM
This is not up for discussion. An Iraqi Arab tested 50+ Iraqi citizens, with most being Iraqi Arabs and uploaded the samples to Gedmatch. Here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245352-Random-GEDmatch-kits/page5) are the kits and as you can see the overwhelming majority of the Arabs score significant amount of Iranian/Kurdish in the mixed modes. Usually Bedouin + Iranian.

You can’t deny gradients, western Iraq might be, and probably is %95 Arabic. But eastern Iraq is Iranic shifted just how Ahwaz has arabic component because those regions are parts of gradients. Infact 90% of anthroautism is caused by gradients.

Aren
07-27-2018, 02:05 AM
You can’t deny gradients, western Iraq might be, and probably is %95 Arabic. But eastern Iraq is Iranic shifted just how Ahwaz has arabic component because those regions are parts of gradients. Infact 90% of anthroautism is caused by gradients.

The overwhelming majority of all Iraqis live in the Eastern part of Iraq though.

Sikeliot
07-27-2018, 02:28 AM
Iraqi Arabs are genetically intermediate between Assyrian/Armenian and Arabian.

Aren
07-27-2018, 02:46 AM
Iraqi Arabs are genetically intermediate between Iranian/Kurds and Arabian.

Fixed
This is what we know from the numerous amounts of Iraqi Arab samples on Gedmatch. Stick with facts please.

Sikeliot
07-27-2018, 02:56 AM
Fixed
This is what we know from the numerous amounts of Iraqi Arab samples on Gedmatch. Stick with facts please.


What you are calling "Iranian" or "Kurdish" is just their native Mesopotamian ancestry.

Aren
07-27-2018, 02:59 AM
What you are calling "Iranian" or "Kurdish" is just their native Mesopotamian ancestry.

xD
Iranian and Kurds are significantly different from Assyrians. They are partly derived from the same source of ancestry but different in many ways.

Mixed mode for the Iraqi Arabs from certain ancient Assyrian strongholds in Iraq

Tikrit Z280729
1 58% Kurdish + 42% Bedouin @ 1.9

Tikrit T520577
1 56.7% Kurdish + 43.3% Bedouin @ 2.61

Mosul A430262
1 56.2% Kurdish + 43.8% Palestinian @ 2.3

Mosul T476435
1 50.7% Iranian + 49.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.7

Mosul T712507
1 60.9% Azeri + 39.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.67

If they were partly Mesopotamian they would not get Kurdish or Iranian, but instead Assyrian or Kurdish Jewish/Georgian Jewish.