Romani Dna Tests more Middle Eastern than Indian

[Pidis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysIyzzKf1GA&t=24s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7jyJNnG_1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTdjm5R1njA
This girl had like 6% south asian
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The question is why they have more middle eastern dna than indian dna?I know they guy in the video said that could be because an indian could had more middle eastern dna but I've seen indian dna results on youtube and they barely get middle eastern dna with a lot almost 100% indian dna.

[Kukushka]

Make sense. Romas look more like some afghans and even kurds then indians.

[Hadouken]

Make sense. Romas look more like some afghans and even kurds then indians.

romas dont look like kurds

[Kukushka]

romas dont look like kurds

Yeah not regular kurds, but picture of yezidis remind a lot of them also the kalash from pakistan. But it could also be just to ”inbreeding” (sorry for my lack of better english word :))

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3E4ZXEKWQDANat7wZ2oo1RaueZD25D 5wh6eoS1XlLi4iPl5YJxw
Kalash:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFWfMjkRlMxfahEjfNg32e5r8bDBAkX c7Uf0IyhwBs-Pr8JuzcnA

[Hadouken]

Yeah not regular kurds, but picture of yezidis remind a lot of them also the kalash from pakistan. But it could also be just to ”inbreeding” (sorry for my lack of better english word :))

many dubious pics of kurds and "kurds" are floating around so I am not surprised :bored: but I can tell you most roma dont pass as kurdish

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Although gipsies in Iberia have the same roots as the ones found in Eastern Europe (they came from North-western India) it is speculated that they arrived here through a different route (through the North of Africa) rather than just crossing Europe. It is just an hypothesis though.

[rein]

Not all of these gypsies are Romani. Especially not that one with 97% European and high British percentage.

[Pidis]

romas dont look like kurds

Either way a lot of romas (maybe the more mixed ones?)have very low indian dna they are more close to middle eastern than indians. Maybe the darker romas could have more indian dna but I am not sure how much white or dark those guys in those dna results were

[Hadouken]

Either way a lot of romas (maybe the more mixed ones?)have very low indian dna they are more close to middle eastern than indians. Maybe the darker romas could have more indian dna but I am not sure how much white or dark those guys in those dna results were

roma score 20% or even 25% south asian on gedmatch like on eurogenes k13

[Pidis]

many dubious pics of kurds and "kurds" are floating around so I am not surprised :bored: but I can tell you most roma dont pass as kurdish

You can pass easily for a roma actually reminds me of a lot of romani albanian

[Hadouken]

You can pass easily for a roma actually reminds me of a lot of romani albanian

said the "new" member :laugh:

another sockaccount for the record

[Impaler]

LOL! And some trolls called me a Gypsy with 0,6% South Asia on 23andme and 5-6% on GEDmatch.

[Impaler]

You can pass easily for a roma actually reminds me of a lot of romani albanian

No, he looks exactly like what he is, a Turkish Kurd. He pass also as Armenian, Georgian.

[Hadouken]

No, he looks exactly like what he is, a Turkish Kurd. He pass also as Armenian, Georgian.

most people from balkans and east europe including Seya told me I dont look Roma at all . and I dont . Mortimer also said I dont

OP is a sockaccount from : jamalkazai , pashtunstar , frequency15 etc. he had several sockaccounts . he is probably indian because on anthroscape it was said that the troll is an indian . I think he is now trying to make Romani middle easternish because he wants to disassociate romas from indians

and lol at the second video 42% south asian , third video the woman is not pure gypsy obviously

ban this idiot

[Kukushka]

LOL! And some trolls called me a Gypsy with 0,6% South Asia on 23andme and 5-6% on GEDmatch.
Didnt u have much higher west-asian/middle east as well?

[Impaler]

Didnt u have much higher west-asian/middle east as well?

0% Middle East, just West Asian on 23andme.

[Kukushka]

0% Middle East, just West Asian on 23andme.

Isnt it the same? Anyway it could be a distant ancestors. Afghans also have more south asians but they considered as ”aryans” on these forums unlike much whiter gypsies.

[Hodar]

most people from balkans and east europe including Seya told me I dont look Roma at all . and I dont . Mortimer also said I dont

OP is a sockaccount from : jamalkazai , pashtunstar , frequency15 etc. he had several sockaccounts . he is probably indian because on anthroscape it was said that the troll is an indian . I think he is now trying to make Romani middle easternish because he wants to disassociate romas from indians

and lol at the second video 42% south asian , third video the woman is not pure gypsy obviously

ban this idiot

I doubt he's Indian. Most Indians don't know that much about Romas.

[Pidis]

LOL! And some trolls called me a Gypsy with 0,6% South Asia on 23andme and 5-6% on GEDmatch.
Probably some roma ancestor from your family but it's fine I think it's cool actually

most people from balkans and east europe including Seya told me I dont look Roma at all . and I dont . Mortimer also said I dont

OP is a sockaccount from : jamalkazai , pashtunstar , frequency15 etc. he had several sockaccounts . he is probably indian because on anthroscape it was said that the troll is an indian . I think he is now trying to make Romani middle easternish because he wants to disassociate romas from indians

and lol at the second video 42% south asian , third video the woman is not pure gypsy obviously

ban this idiot

Reported

[Hadouken]

Reported

no.... I reported you

stop creating sockaccounts already

[Hadouken]

I doubt he's Indian. Most Indians don't know that much about Romas.

many indians on forums try to disassociate roma from indians . they even call roma "poor europeans" and stuff

and many trolls are indian anyway

[Hadouken]

Isnt it the same? Anyway it could be a distant ancestors. Afghans also have more south asians but they considered as ”aryans” on these forums unlike much whiter gypsies.

afghans dont have more south asian than roma . dont say things you dont know anything about please

here eurogenes k13 from roma and afghans .

ROMA


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.17
2 East_Med 16.66
3 West_Asian 15.93
4 Baltic 13.71
5 West_Med 13.51
6 North_Atlantic 9.15
7 Red_Sea 3.04
8 Siberian 1.74
9 Amerindian 0.8
10 East_Asian 0.3


----


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 21.21
2 West_Asian 18.36
3 East_Med 18.06
4 Baltic 13.5
5 West_Med 11.89
6 North_Atlantic 11.7
7 Red_Sea 2.04
8 Siberian 2.03
9 East_Asian 0.78
10 Amerindian 0.38
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05


-------------------

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 26.04
2 East_Med 21.47
3 West_Asian 15.87
4 West_Med 13.35
5 North_Atlantic 8.62
6 Baltic 6.74
7 Red_Sea 3.7
8 East_Asian 3.5
9 Northeast_African 0.71


-------------


AFGHANS

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.06
2 South_Asian 25.82
3 Baltic 10.51
4 East_Med 8.02
5 Siberian 7.45
6 North_Atlantic 6.19
7 East_Asian 3.5
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 West_Med 1.26
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.34

----

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.15
2 South_Asian 26.91
3 East_Med 9.51
4 Baltic 9.12
5 North_Atlantic 6.67
6 Siberian 2.73
7 East_Asian 2.42
8 Red_Sea 1.08
9 Amerindian 0.9
10 Northeast_African 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.2


----

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.22
2 South_Asian 25.74
3 Baltic 10.76
4 East_Med 8.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.64
6 Siberian 2.92
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 Amerindian 1.29
9 Northeast_African 1
10 West_Med 0.07

----

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 42.24
2 South_Asian 24.56
3 Baltic 10.13
4 East_Med 9.91
5 North_Atlantic 4.98
6 Siberian 3.33
7 Amerindian 1.48
8 West_Med 1.22
9 Sub-Saharan 1.1

[Kukushka]

afghans dont have more south asian than roma . dont say things you dont know anything about please

here eurogenes k13 from roma and afghans .

ROMA


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.17
2 East_Med 16.66
3 West_Asian 15.93
4 Baltic 13.71
5 West_Med 13.51
6 North_Atlantic 9.15
7 Red_Sea 3.04
8 Siberian 1.74
9 Amerindian 0.8
10 East_Asian 0.3


----


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 21.21
2 West_Asian 18.36
3 East_Med 18.06
4 Baltic 13.5
5 West_Med 11.89
6 North_Atlantic 11.7
7 Red_Sea 2.04
8 Siberian 2.03
9 East_Asian 0.78
10 Amerindian 0.38
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05


-------------------

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 26.04
2 East_Med 21.47
3 West_Asian 15.87
4 West_Med 13.35
5 North_Atlantic 8.62
6 Baltic 6.74
7 Red_Sea 3.7
8 East_Asian 3.5
9 Northeast_African 0.71


-------------


AFGHANS

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.06
2 South_Asian 25.82
3 Baltic 10.51
4 East_Med 8.02
5 Siberian 7.45
6 North_Atlantic 6.19
7 East_Asian 3.5
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 West_Med 1.26
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.34

----

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.15
2 South_Asian 26.91
3 East_Med 9.51
4 Baltic 9.12
5 North_Atlantic 6.67
6 Siberian 2.73
7 East_Asian 2.42
8 Red_Sea 1.08
9 Amerindian 0.9
10 Northeast_African 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.2


----

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.22
2 South_Asian 25.74
3 Baltic 10.76
4 East_Med 8.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.64
6 Siberian 2.92
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 Amerindian 1.29
9 Northeast_African 1
10 West_Med 0.07

----

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 42.24
2 South_Asian 24.56
3 Baltic 10.13
4 East_Med 9.91
5 North_Atlantic 4.98
6 Siberian 3.33
7 Amerindian 1.48
8 West_Med 1.22
9 Sub-Saharan 1.1

Cool. They are more or less the same in regards to south asian then. Difference is romas have more euro.

[Hadouken]

Cool. They are more or less the same in regards to south asian then. Difference is romas have more euro.

a little yeah . which is no surprise since they live in the balkans

but even though they are so long away from india they still score 20-26% south asian as you see

thats TWICE the amount of what iranians have ....yet you see indians disassociate from roma and have them saying roma are europeans but at the same time they obsess over iran and iranians even though they neither look iranian nor cluster with iranians nor border iranians etc etc. ...what a tragedy indeed

btw. if I am not wrong the south asian in roma is mostly south indian like while the south asian in afghans is mostly ANI

[Kukushka]

a little yeah . which is no surprise since they live in the balkans

but even though they are so long away from india they still score 20-26% south asian as you see

thats TWICE the amount of what iranians have ....yet you see indians disassociate from roma and have them saying roma are europeans but at the same time they obsess over iran and iranians even though they neither look iranian nor cluster with iranians nor border iranians etc etc. ...what a tragedy indeed

btw. if I am not wrong the south asian in roma is mostly south indian like while the south asian in afghans is mostly ANI

Yeah the Afghan president looks kind of North Indian while no gypsy does. On the other some (non-mongoloid) afghans can pass as gypsy.

[Hadouken]

Yeah the Afghan president looks kind of North Indian while no gypsy does. On the other some (non-mongoloid) afghans can pass as gypsy.

most afghans dont look indian . many afghans actually pass in the caucasus

gypsies have their own kind of look somewhat . some can pass as other ethnicities but they have their own look mostly

[Kukushka]

most afghans dont look indian . many afghans actually pass in the caucasus

gypsies have their own kind of look somewhat . some can pass as other ethnicities but they have their own look mostly

I ageee. Could be that the unique look is result of inbreeding. I only know only hazara and tajik afghans and they are darker then iranians at least, but do not look indian still. No idea about pashtun but their pres. looks indian.

[rein]

Many Indians disassociate themselves from aroma because they’re generally not displaced Dalits.

[CommonSense]

Make sense. Romas look more like some afghans and even kurds then indians.

Not true. This is how most of them look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6HfenInNEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4dY0XyuL8

Maybe some of them can pass for Afghans, but they don't look like Kurds at all. Some Gypsy/Serbian mixes can look West Asian and a whole lot of other things, but that's a different matter.

[CommonSense]

most people from balkans and east europe including Seya told me I dont look Roma at all . and I dont . Mortimer also said I dont

OP is a sockaccount from : jamalkazai , pashtunstar , frequency15 etc. he had several sockaccounts . he is probably indian because on anthroscape it was said that the troll is an indian . I think he is now trying to make Romani middle easternish because he wants to disassociate romas from indians

and lol at the second video 42% south asian , third video the woman is not pure gypsy obviously

ban this idiot

Agree. Maybe some members won't like what I'm about to say, but I believe most people here would guess you as Turkish.

[Hadouken]

Not true. This is how most of them look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6HfenInNEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4dY0XyuL8

Maybe some of them can pass for Afghans, but they don't look like Kurds at all. Some Gypsy/Serbian mixes can look West Asian and a whole lot of other things, but that's a different matter.

of course they dont look kurdish bro . I posted 10000 kurdish faces and people should be able to see reality by now

but I have a question . I wonder how well our kurdish gypsies would pass as balkan gypsies

like this family for example (read bottom left )

http://up.picr.de/31854209zk.jpg

[CommonSense]

of course they dont look kurdish bro . I posted 10000 kurdish faces and people should be able to see reality by now

but I have a question . I wonder how well our kurdish gypsies would pass as balkan gypsies

like this family for example (read bottom left )

http://up.picr.de/31854209zk.jpg

The only thing that makes them unusal for a Balkan Gypsy family is too few kids in the photo ;)

[Thambi]

afghans dont have more south asian than roma . dont say things you dont know anything about please

here eurogenes k13 from roma and afghans .



Below is my World-22 calc. It doesnt have many indian populations so it shows both romas and pashtuns on my oracle and I cluster closer to pashtuns and even parsis before Romas. However, you're right regarding the actual indian mix from dalits in romas whereas afghans have more shared relations with indians rather than actual mixture. Thats why you see some indid/veddoid looking people pop up among Romas whereas its quite rare among pashtuns or any other populations north/west to them to see indian looking folks.

MDLP World-22 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Indian 50.77
2 West-Asian 29.84
3 Indo-Iranian 7.37
4 East-South-Asian 4.17
5 Indo-Tibetan 2.28
6 Austronesian 1.4
7 Samoedic 1.27
8 Near_East 0.82
9 Paleo-Siberian 0.72
10 South-America_Amerind 0.62
11 Pygmy 0.27
12 North-European-Mesolithic 0.21
13 Melanesian 0.12
14 South-African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hindu (derived) 9.1
2 Jew_India (derived) 10.24
3 Indian (derived) 17.4
4 Sindhi (derived) 18.74
5 Burusho (derived) 21.25
6 Pathan (derived) 24.38
7 Balochi (derived) 27.82
8 Brahui (derived) 32.46
9 Pashtun (derived) 32.68
10 Makrani (derived) 32.74
11 Parsi (derived) 34.43
12 Roma (derived) 36.56
13 Tadjik (derived) 39.74
14 Turkmen (derived) 42.85
15 Uzbek (derived) 44.53
16 Hazara (derived) 44.62
17 Iranian (derived) 47.44
18 Uygur (derived) 49.43
19 Azeri (derived) 49.94
20 Kurd (derived) 50.89

[Hadouken]

^ it doesnt matter what you get in the oracles . even more so because we dont know what kind of roma the maker of the calc used for his calculator . there is a thread with romani kit numbers

pasthuns dont score more south asian than roma

btw. you get all of them at distance 30+ lol so it doesnt matter

[Thambi]

^ it doesnt matter what you get in the oracles . even more so because we dont know what kind of roma the maker of the calc used for his calculator . there is a thread with romani kit numbers

pasthuns dont score more south asian than roma

btw. you get all of them at distance 30+ lol so it doesnt matter

yeah I'm really far from all of them in general but I was just saying that we're genetically equidistant to both populations, with a slight edge towards pashtuns.

they more or less have about the same amount of south asian but Romas have lower gedrosian, higher euro, higher mediterranean etc due to mix from locals. Pashtuns are fairly similar unlike Romas, who have a huge amount of diversity.

[Mortimer]

The second test says 42% southasian but only 14% westasian

[Thambi]

The second test says 42% southasian but only 14% westasian

yeah its counterintuitive to what the thread title states. But gedmatch will show how much actual south asian they score. there are jatts who get almost 100% south asian on 23andme and AncestryDNA tests but they end up scoring scoring in upper 20s and lower 30s for south asian. The south asian component is quite vague on these tests.

[Hodar]

a little yeah . which is no surprise since they live in the balkans

but even though they are so long away from india they still score 20-26% south asian as you see

thats TWICE the amount of what iranians have ....yet you see indians disassociate from roma and have them saying roma are europeans but at the same time they obsess over iran and iranians even though they neither look iranian nor cluster with iranians nor border iranians etc etc. ...what a tragedy indeed

btw. if I am not wrong the south asian in roma is mostly south indian like while the south asian in afghans is mostly ANI

:picard1:
Most Indians don't obsess over Iran. We don't even know much about them except that it's a country in Asia and that there was an ancient Persian civilization similar to ancient Greeks. But that's about it. In real life 99% of Indians don't know or care about how they look or how close or far they are to Indians. Probably most Iranians don't know much about us either. Only some Indians on the Internet behave like West Asian wannabes or Aryan wannabes, and they are cringeworthy, but they don't represent the majority of Indians in real life.

Most Indians don't know about Romanis either, so they don't have either a positive or negative opinion about them. So once again you can't generalize what average Indians think based on what a few random people on the Internet said.


yeah its counterintuitive to what the thread title states. But gedmatch will show how much actual south asian they score. there are jatts who get almost 100% south asian on 23andme and AncestryDNA tests but they end up scoring scoring in upper 20s and lower 30s for south asian. The south asian component is quite vague on these tests.

23andme and AncestryDNA tells you how much actual South Asian you are. Jatts are close to 100% South Asian, just differ from other South Asians in how much of it is ANI and ASI. Gedmatch breaks down your ancient ancestry and nobody (even Tamil Dalits) gets more than 90% South Asian on it, so that isn't your actual South Asian percentage.

[Hadouken]

:picard1:
Most Indians don't obsess over Iran. We don't even know much about them except that it's a country in Asia and that there was an ancient Persian civilization similar to ancient Greeks. But that's about it. In real life 99% of Indians don't know or care about how they look or how close or far they are to Indians. Probably most Iranians don't know much about us either. Only some Indians on the Internet behave like West Asian wannabes or Aryan wannabes, and they are cringeworthy, but they don't represent the majority of Indians in real life.

Most Indians don't know about Romanis either, so they don't have either a positive or negative opinion about them. So once again you can't generalize what average Indians think based on what a few random people on the Internet said.




sorry man but I cant believe you . in many forums in threads about west asians you have many indians storming it and ruining the thread with their bullshit . especially with iranians haha . they used to do it with us kurds too but after I posted my genetic results and many kurdish faces they slowed down . with iran they still continue :picard1:

also go to youtube and search something about iran . in many videos you have indians comment on it a lot . it is really just fucking weird

indians must learn that they dont overlap with iranians and are a very different people . enough is enough . I mean human is human but thats another matter . they dont overlap with iranians and should leave them alone already


member Thambi I consider to be a good anthro indian and even he is interested a lot in iranians and opened a thread about them asking if they look more italian or indian .... I mean ....come on

[Hodar]

sorry man but I cant believe you . in many forums in threads about west asians you have many indians storming it and ruining the thread with their bullshit . especially with iranians haha . they used to do it with us kurds too but after I posted my genetic results and many kurdish faces they slowed down . with iran they still continue :picard1:

also go to youtube and search something about iran . in many videos you have indians comment on it a lot . it is really just fucking weird

indians must learn that they dont overlap with iranians and are a very different people . enough is enough . I mean human is human but thats another matter . they dont overlap with iranians and should leave them alone already


member Thambi I consider to be a good anthro indian and even he is interested a lot in iranians and opened a thread about them asking if they look more italian or indian .... I mean ....come on

Really? Where are these threads?

I googled some popular threads of Iranians on TheApricity, there don't seem to be many (if any) Indian users posting there:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187867-Iranians-who-look-greek!
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?159531-Iranians-looks-more-Mexican-or-Spanish
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?31950-Can-Iranians-pass-as-Europeans
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?61252-IRANIANS-random-Iranians
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75154-Iranian-Nordoid-examples

And yeah these people on the Internet, no matter how numerous they appear do represent a small minority of Indians in real life. If you walked into any city in India and ask a random person if they consider Iranians similar to them, they wouldn't know what you're talking about.

[Seya]

Yeah the Afghan president looks kind of North Indian while no gypsy does. On the other some (non-mongoloid) afghans can pass as gypsy.

afgans don't look gypsy or indian or mongoloid. i don't know from where u take such ideas. i actually consider afgans one of the best looking people

[Hadouken]

Really? Where are these threads?

I googled some popular threads of Iranians on TheApricity, there don't seem to be many (if any) Indian users posting there:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187867-Iranians-who-look-greek!
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?159531-Iranians-looks-more-Mexican-or-Spanish
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?31950-Can-Iranians-pass-as-Europeans
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?61252-IRANIANS-random-Iranians
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75154-Iranian-Nordoid-examples

And yeah these people on the Internet, no matter how numerous they appear do represent a small minority of Indians in real life. If you walked into any city in India and ask a random person if they consider Iranians similar to them, they wouldn't know what you're talking about.

I have seen many threads where this happened and many comments on videos

but ok at least you are not such a person

having interest in other peoples is nothing bad or to be ashamed about anyway but the way certain indians are behaving is just fucked up

dont take what I say as an attack against you or indians in general

[Mortimer]

yeah its counterintuitive to what the thread title states. But gedmatch will show how much actual south asian they score. there are jatts who get almost 100% south asian on 23andme and AncestryDNA tests but they end up scoring scoring in upper 20s and lower 30s for south asian. The south asian component is quite vague on these tests.

I posted a guy who is 65% southasian on ancestryDNA. 40-70% would be majority. Well 23andme is the only which gives so much middle eastern for roma and european no other does. On ancestryDNA they are more southasian.

[Mortimer]

btw. if I am not wrong the south asian in roma is mostly south indian like while the south asian in afghans is mostly ANI

not all of the southasian in roma is ASI. Thats wrong. ASI is not more then 12%, 10-12% and I score 5-7%

[Mortimer]

The question is why they have more middle eastern dna than indian dna?I know they guy in the video said that could be because an indian could had more middle eastern dna but I've seen indian dna results on youtube and they barely get middle eastern dna with a lot almost 100% indian dna.

only on 23andme and thats bullshit.

[Mortimer]

23andme and AncestryDNA tells you how much actual South Asian you are. Jatts are close to 100% South Asian, just differ from other South Asians in how much of it is ANI and ASI. Gedmatch breaks down your ancient ancestry and nobody (even Tamil Dalits) gets more than 90% South Asian on it, so that isn't your actual South Asian percentage.

but how can they be 20% southasian on gedmatch but only 9% on 23andme? something is wrong. sure 23andme is wrong. ancestrydna gives them much higher percent of southasian

[Krivich]

afgans don't look gypsy or indian or mongoloid. i don't know from where u take such ideas. i actually consider afgans one of the best looking people
Very beautiful European people
https://c.radikal.ru/c11/1807/aa/91ddaa04375a.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

[Kukushka]

afgans don't look gypsy or indian or mongoloid. i don't know from where u take such ideas. i actually consider afgans one of the best looking people

Many actually look part mongoloid (hazaras, uzbeks) but those are the better-looking ones to me.

I mean a few can pass as gypsies, certainly not the majority.

[Thambi]

Many actually look part mongoloid (hazaras, uzbeks) but those are the better-looking ones to me.

I mean a few can pass as gypsies, certainly not the majority.

lol so the indian or gypsy shifted ones are unappealing?

[Kukushka]

lol so the indian or gypsy shifted ones are unappealing?

For women I think the mongoloid looking ones are better looking because they have softer feautures. For example lot of iranian girls do nose-jobs because they want to look more feminine - afghans dont need that usually.

[StonyArabia]

For women I think the mongoloid looking ones are better looking because they have softer feautures. For example lot of iranian girls do nose-jobs because they want to look more feminine - afghans dont need that usually.

Yes, Iranids have hooked noses. Real Semites like Yemenites, Bedouins, and Saudis don't have it. Some Iraqis have it due to Persian influence.

[Kukushka]

Yes, Iranids have hooked noses. Real Semites like Yemenites, Bedouins, and Saudis don't have it. Some Iraqis have it due to Persian influence.

Syrians and assyrians also have, yemenis + north africans don’t. Still ”levantines” considered more attractive in MENA because they are ”whiter” (OWD ;))

[StonyArabia]

Syrians and assyrians also have, yemenis + north africans don’t. Still ”levantines” considered more attractive in MENA because they are ”whiter” (OWD ;))

In some regions, but not ours or among Bedouins. Actually light skin is seen as feminine trait, for males they always have to be brownish. Plus Arabian beauty standards somehow changed due to Levantine and Turkish media influence and of course globalist influence. However traditional Arabian beauty standards are large black eyes, raven black hair, and light brown skin. This still exist in large numbers. Also ours is more shaped by beauty standards, than some sick colonial mentality that's seen among Latinos or even South Asians. Some Levantines can be attractive but those for me are usually more Bedouin/Arabian influenced. Levantines were influenced by Anatolian admix as well. It's not that we think their attractive, they just have more liberal culture than us, and they dominate the media. Originally it was the Egyptians, but this has fallen greatly, but Egypt also had similar standards and were very liberal. For example Iraq and the peninsula still have a conservative base. This why a lot of models there are often half-breeds, and if they are full their usually from outside places. There only now some of the natives of this area now entering the entertainment business. Honestly acting and modeling are seen as prostitution in Arabian culture. Now they have eased up on the acting though. This is the main reason why it's skewed toward Levantines, and also the dialect they speak is very soft and conducive to entertainment. I think Yemenis in general look better than a lot of Levantines especially Lebanese. Since Yemenite women often have very feminine features.

[arkas]

Gypsies have lived in the Middle East for longer than Europe, there are many Gypsies in countries like Turkey, with that knowledge, I don't find it surprising at all. I am more shocked that gypsies have actually retained even small amounts of Indian dna.

[Thambi]

yeah its surprising that gypsies still have indian/south asian in them regardless of leaving over thousand years ago.

[mashail]

LOL! And some trolls called me a Gypsy with 0,6% South Asia on 23andme and 5-6% on GEDmatch.

lol you look 100% arab idk how you are European or even gypsy LOL!
Edit:i was trying to be honest with you come to ME and see how you resemble them very well !!! even in Egypt.
I am not trolling btw thanks for the thump down. :confused:

[Impaler]

lol you look 100% arab idk how you are European or even gypsy LOL!

You need to buy some glasses! Do no try to be a smartass.

[mashail]

In some regions, but not ours or among Bedouins. Actually light skin is seen as feminine trait, for males they always have to be brownish. Plus Arabian beauty standards somehow changed due to Levantine and Turkish media influence and of course globalist influence. However traditional Arabian beauty standards are large black eyes, raven black hair, and light brown skin. This still exist in large numbers. Also ours is more shaped by beauty standards, than some sick colonial mentality that's seen among Latinos or even South Asians. Some Levantines can be attractive but those for me are usually more Bedouin/Arabian influenced. Levantines were influenced by Anatolian admix as well. It's not that we think their attractive, they just have more liberal culture than us, and they dominate the media. Originally it was the Egyptians, but this has fallen greatly, but Egypt also had similar standards and were very liberal. For example Iraq and the peninsula still have a conservative base. This why a lot of models there are often half-breeds, and if they are full their usually from outside places. There only now some of the natives of this area now entering the entertainment business. Honestly acting and modeling are seen as prostitution in Arabian culture. Now they have eased up on the acting though. This is the main reason why it's skewed toward Levantines, and also the dialect they speak is very soft and conducive to entertainment. I think Yemenis in general look better than a lot of Levantines especially Lebanese. Since Yemenite women often have very feminine features.

اغلب البدو الي بشمال السعوديه وجنوب السعوديه مثل ابها بيض ليسو تان ابدا حتي عندهم عيون ملونه مثل
الغامدي،القحطاني،الشهري،المالكي وكثير قبايل اسال اي سعودي
وهذا بفضل الجو البارد في جنوب السعوديه بمنتصف فصل الصيف درجه الحراراه هي ١٥ او ١٩ واحيانا ثلوج بالصيف.
ليست كل البدو تان هذا اذا كان من منطقه حار طبيعي جدا يكون
(suntanned)
اليمنين هم تان كثير كثير بس عيونهم عسليه وخضرا ليست سودا اليمنين بالجبل بيض شعر لونه فاتح وعيون كمان ملونه
غلط لمن تتحجي ان ١٠٠٪ البدو تان غلط
it depends on their location and the weather!
اهل امي شمر ١٠٠٪ محد تان منهم ابدا لكن شقر او شعر احمر وبيض جدا وعيون ملونه بنشبهه اليزيدين والسورين بشكل عام

[Congolese Rice]

the white guy who scored 30% middle eastern doesnt look middle eastern AT ALL. so it's probably levantine or iranian influence again XD even my ass looks more arab than he is

[Congolese Rice]

lol you look 100% arab idk how you are European or even gypsy LOL!
Edit:i was trying to be honest with you come to ME and see how you resemble them very well !!! even in Egypt.
I am not trolling btw thanks for the thump down. :confused:


i dont think he looks arab either though xD i've seen the back of his skull he's definitely not dolicho-mesocephalic, and also his features look more levantine or iranian/turkish to me, maybe its the angle his profile picture is taken at.

[Kukushka]

i dont think he looks arab either though xD i've seen the back of his skull he's definitely not dolicho-mesocephalic, and also his features look more levantine or iranian/turkish to me, maybe its the angle his profile picture is taken at.

Not iranian or levantine with that petite nose. Probably ”indian” and turkic ancestors which explains the exotic look.

[Pumking_tats]

What you guys do not understand is that 23andme and AncestryDNA assign ancestry differently. For instance, AncestryDNA uses a method that pics ancient ancestry and displays what a person is mixed with. On the other hand, 23adnme provides ancestry report valid from 300 to 500 years back. What would that mean I will show in the example below:

A person from Persia or Armenia would score around 99% western Asian on 23andme, but the same person would score 10 to 12% South Asian on Ancestry along with other minor ancestries that make them Middle Eastern.

In the instance of Roma those of them who have indeed more Middle Eastern ancestry, I say those who have, because I have seen Romani people score low as around 10-17% of western Asian ( on 23andme) and much more European and South Asian. The highest % of South Asian that I saw in some Romani is around 40 to 50% on 23andme. Those who have 10, 20 or 30% South Asian simply are more mixed than others.

So a Romani with a relevant amount of Middle Eastern would appear with more South Asian on Ancestry, because of their Middle Eastern that already has some South Asian ancient DNA (probably ANI), 23andme would detect this part of South Asian ancestry present in Persians and Armenians and it would assign it to their Middle Estern ancestry. Where AncestryDNA will have everything splited up like a GEDMATCH Calc.

I personally do not find the AncestryDNA calculator accurate, because many Brits score 7-10% British and extreme amount of Western and Central European. However, on 23andme they are more British and Broadly NW European than any other. AncestryDNA is aware of this issue so they are making an update of their ancestry. I have seen some beta testers who have received the update and are from a Persian and Armenian descent. The 10-12% of their South Asian is now gone and is replaced by Persian or Turkey and the Caucasus.

Romani people are like South Americans. They come in all colors, depending on what they are mixed with and what part of their ancestry is more visible than other. I really dislike the propaganda of dumping all Romani to India, as not all of them have a significant amount of Indian DNA. In fact, Indian ancestry is just one component of their own unique ethnicity. We cannot say that all Latino people are Spanish or Native at the most, because there is diversity in their proportional composition. And for the record, as Romani people come in all color and can look as any ethnicity and for the most they can pass for Kurdish or Persian due to the fact those groups both have Middle Eastern and South Asian ancestry just like them!

[Purohit ji]

most afghans dont look indian . many afghans actually pass in the caucasus

gypsies have their own kind of look somewhat . some can pass as other ethnicities but they have their own look mostly

Lol https://goo.gl/images/PeQPkY

[Hadouken]

Lol https://goo.gl/images/PeQPkY

whats wrong gorilla

[Purohit ji]

whats wrong gorilla
Nothing angry boxer bhai
https://goo.gl/images/Af7xJz

[Hadouken]

Nothing angry boxer bhai
https://goo.gl/images/Af7xJz

:lol:

still better than being you tbh

[Purohit ji]

:lol:

still better than being you tbh

I agree

[Hadouken]

I agree

jk

[Purohit ji]

jk

I know . You are not as bad as you want to show

[Hadouken]

I know . You are not as bad as you want to show

I dont want to show myself bad . I hope to be a good human

[Purohit ji]

I dont want to show myself bad . I hope to be a good human

Best of luck

[Seya]

lol you look 100% arab idk how you are European or even gypsy LOL!
Edit:i was trying to be honest with you come to ME and see how you resemble them very well !!! even in Egypt.
I am not trolling btw thanks for the thump down. :confused:

u have to be jk, right?

[Seya]

Very beautiful European people
https://c.radikal.ru/c11/1807/aa/91ddaa04375a.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

did i miss the joke?

[Hadouken]

Yes, Iranids have hooked noses. Real Semites like Yemenites, Bedouins, and Saudis don't have it. Some Iraqis have it due to Persian influence.

really ?

[Kukushka]

really ?

look at ur own, lol

[Hadouken]

look at ur own, lol

I dont have a hooked nose you subanimal troll

and I am not iranid either

are you that romanian dude btw

[StonyArabia]

They have Anatolian and Iranian admixture yes

[CommonSense]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWUphFYpQaQ