How to figure out MENA ancestry's origins based on test results?

[Congolese Rice]

disclaimer: if yous coming to this thread to troll my ass i will ignore your comments and just block you cuz i aint in the mood for childish trolling as per usual on this forum.


now lets get 2 it lmao, on many tests i score higher west asian than SW asian or north african at all.


On many one on one comparisons i also cluster close to Georgian jews, armenians, cypriots, and Lebanese christians.


like with around cm's of 29 cM to 40 cM. which is pretty damn high


so here for my test results:




Gedrosia K12 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.79
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.56
4 CAUCASUS 8.63
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 3.96
7 E_AFRICAN 2.23
8 S_INDIAN 1.81
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.09


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.219196
2 Norwegian @ 36.381535
3 Sicilian @ 37.193859
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.075687
5 Russian @ 41.206917
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.296894
7 Uzbek @ 41.709469
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.990959
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.604202
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808521
11 Kurds_C @ 45.098789
12 Finnish @ 45.211155
13 Kurds_N @ 45.991249
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.464764
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.733707
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.897259
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.049088
18 Kurds_F @ 47.279957
19 Estonian @ 48.021648
20 Kurds_E @ 48.111187

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
6 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
7 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
8 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
9 BA_Sintashta + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
10 Corded_Ware_LN + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
11 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
12 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
13 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801
14 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801
15 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.655050
16 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.655050
17 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.735190
18 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.735190
19 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.747951
20 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.747951


^ someone else noticed, called "Chaos One" that i persistently score 1.20% - 1.80% south asian on every test, on my doug mc donald chromosome painting i also score some very minor south asian


https://i.imgur.com/KqP5Oli.png


as you can see theres 1 or 2 greyish spots on my chromosomes but that's about it.


now for my eurasia K6

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gedrosia K6 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.45
2 Natufian 27.76
3 Sub_Saharan 23.28
4 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 14.74
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.42
6 East_Asian 1.34


Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
6 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moroccan @ 19.881178
2 Algerian @ 20.177343
3 Saharawi @ 23.123322
4 GoyetQ116 @ 26.824112
5 Libyan @ 26.871412
6 Bulgarian @ 27.774874
7 Hungarian @ 27.984194
8 Ukrainian @ 28.123915
9 Croatian @ 28.133266
10 Romanian @ 28.206146
11 Russian @ 28.245659
12 Spanish @ 28.378586
13 Steppe_MLBA @ 28.516495
14 Czech @ 28.744583
15 Scottish @ 28.818592
16 Norwegian @ 28.908331
17 English @ 28.919888
18 French @ 28.978497
19 Finnish @ 29.012388
20 Europe_LNBA @ 29.401033

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +50% Somali @ 6.784506


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Mota +25% Motala12 @ 1.296267


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BedouinA + Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_ChL @ 0.000000
2 BedouinA + Hadza + Iran_ChL + WHG @ 0.000000
3 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian @ 0.000000
4 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.000000
5 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_F @ 0.422032
6 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_F + WHG @ 0.422032
7 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + SHG @ 0.481609
8 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian @ 0.488010
9 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.488010
10 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_LN + Jordanian @ 0.575826
11 Hadza + Iran_LN + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.575826
12 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_C @ 0.598981
13 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_C + WHG @ 0.598981
14 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + Motala12 @ 0.673160
15 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Lebanese @ 0.680161
16 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Lebanese + WHG @ 0.680161
17 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Jordanian @ 0.743273
18 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.743273
19 Kumyk + Libyan + Masai + SHG @ 0.778317
20 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Kurd_C + Palestinian @ 0.802877


^ once again, very high west asian and iranian admixture in there.

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MDLP World 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 29.36
2 North_and_East_European 27.39
3 Sub_Saharian 21.84
4 Caucaus_Parsia 7.70
5 Middle_East 5.33
6 Paleo_African 3.86
7 Mesoamerican 2.11
8 Arctic_Amerind 1.03


Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lumbee @ 8.783614
2 Puerto-Rican @ 22.101797
3 Bosnian @ 28.201881
4 Macedonian @ 28.351553
5 Bulgarian @ 28.510197
6 Serbian @ 28.558668
7 Colville @ 28.774231
8 Gagauz @ 28.780857
9 Hungarian @ 28.949675
10 Latvian_V @ 28.965096
11 Croatian @ 29.021526
12 Montenegrin @ 29.137178
13 Romania @ 29.433310
14 Croatian_V @ 29.473038
15 Swiss @ 29.598436
16 Austrian @ 30.128340
17 Tatar_Kryashen @ 30.135967
18 Slovenian @ 30.255627
19 Ashkenazim_V @ 30.462284
20 German @ 30.496473


^ some ashkenazi and tatar/gagauz influence in my pops. probably west asian admix showing i guess

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africa 9 dodecad:

Africa9 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Europe 46.71
2 SW_Asia 21.84
3 W_Africa 21.07
4 NW_Africa 5.17
5 S_Africa 2.20
6 San 1.83
7 Biaka 1.18



Using 1 population approximation:
1 Morocco_Jews @ 27.378761
2 North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 31.523413
3 Tuscan @ 32.231964
4 North_Italian @ 34.155674
5 Druze @ 39.301552
6 Egypt @ 39.909996
7 Jordanians @ 40.360577
8 Egyptans @ 42.036186
9 Yemenese @ 44.171303
10 Libya @ 46.390274
11 North_African_Dodecad @ 47.745167
12 Algeria @ 53.506958
13 Bedouin @ 57.382694
14 Morocco_N @ 59.759953
15 French_Basque @ 60.481731
16 Yemen_Jews @ 62.802704
17 Moroccans @ 63.570690
18 Morocco_S @ 63.636944
19 Luhya @ 64.830467
20 Bantu_N.E. @ 65.287796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Fulani +50% Tuscan @ 19.305805


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Morocco_Jews +25% North_Italian +25% Yoruba @ 5.560930


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Brong + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.292991
2 French_Basque + Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.523308
3 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.658659
4 Brong + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.698521
5 French_Basque + Igbo + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.975921
6 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.985883
7 French_Basque + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.000863
8 Brong + French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 3.191340
9 French_Basque + Igbo + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.200177
10 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.284655

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and for my last gedmatch test:


EthioHelix Africa + French

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 58.53
2 West-Africa 20.48
3 North-Africa 14.17
4 Eastern-Bantu 2.94
5 Biaka-Pygmy 1.96


Finished reading population data. 59 populations found.
10 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 egypt @ 28.436947
2 egyptans @ 29.843468
3 libya @ 37.148422
4 french @ 48.514793
5 algeria @ 51.793137
6 morocco-n @ 53.296841
7 EtA @ 58.839912
8 EtT @ 59.205017
9 ethiopian-jews @ 59.574738
10 moroccans @ 59.989388
11 morocco-s @ 62.576019
12 EtT-P @ 63.774693
13 EtA-P @ 66.219421
14 EtO-P @ 67.785980
15 Afar @ 67.821465
16 fulani @ 67.871010
17 hema @ 69.191284
18 EtO @ 69.218773
19 fang @ 73.385963
20 sahara-occ @ 73.605812

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% french +50% fulani @ 10.784990


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% french +25% morocco-n +25% yoruba @ 2.858610


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 algeria + bambaran + french + french @ 1.866526
2 bambaran + french + french + morocco-n @ 1.937596
3 algeria + brong + french + french @ 2.001741
4 brong + french + french + morocco-n @ 2.077469
5 brong + french + french + moroccans @ 2.676510
6 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
7 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
8 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
9 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
10 bambaran + french + french + moroccans @ 2.894958
11 french + french + moroccans + yoruba @ 3.262558
12 french + french + moroccans + yoruba @ 3.262558
13 dogon + french + french + morocco-n @ 3.613788
14 algeria + french + french + mandenka @ 3.645414
15 french + french + mandenka + morocco-n @ 3.725548
16 algeria + dogon + french + french @ 3.743774
17 dogon + french + french + moroccans @ 4.410098
18 algeria + french + french + hausa @ 4.434712
19 french + french + mandenka + moroccans @ 4.485708
20 french + french + hausa + morocco-n @ 4.611527


^ this clearly shows that i am quarter MENA and quarter yoruba.


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now last test outside of gedmatch:

yourDNAportal Eurogenes K7 ANE:


Population Percentage
Sub Saharan 25.68%
Oceanian 0.30%
Amerindian 2.27%
Euro Hunter Gatherer 42.32%
Siberian 0.26%
South East Asian 1.46%
Near Eastern 27.70%


^ gives very similar near eastern like my eurasia K6 results, only a 00.06% difference.


also what i notice is very low european admix.


so what do you guys think? Is my MENA more Iranian/Persian based because i also score South asian on some tests? or is it more Berber/Maghreb. I'll leave yall 2 vote


thanks for reading lmao

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

You wont figure it out this way. Just find mena members you share centimorgans with

[Gangrel]

Loooooool you are a joke! Even people who have your gedmatch kit are saying you barely have any MENA and you are still nitpicking shitty niche calcs LOL

[Congolese Rice]

Loooooool you are a joke! Even people who have your gedmatch kit are saying you barely have any MENA and you are still nitpicking shitty niche calcs LOL



Ppl who have my kit nr: aren and alessio

What do these 2 ppl have in common?

They hate my ass, and they are both retarded. Im not gonna listen to them or you.

Bye son ur blockt xd

[Congolese Rice]

You wont figure it out this way. Just find mena members you share centimorgans with

i have already did one on one comparisons with my DNA and many middle easterners, i share most centimorgans with Armenians, Lebanese, Iranics/Iranians, and Cypriots (for the cypriot i got 6.2 centimorgans, 7.3 centimorgans, and 9.2 centimorgans + some smaller 5 cMs) so i think thats definitely a match XD and i am not partially greek so that says enough.


a Armenian:



Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 150 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 21,104,419 27,066,030**** 5.5 459
2 129,692,426 132,916,869 4.3 166
4 148,730,175 154,134,453 4.3 378
6 3,426,312 5,006,579 4.4 277
9 37,416,152 70,633,360**** 5.6 256
10 2,422,266 4,028,347********** 7.3 322********
12 3,613,736 5,315,483 5.5 338
12 128,770,673 129,708,275 4.0 236
14 100,273,988 102,478,372**** 4.8 249
16 17,976,966 21,130,442***** 5.4 282
16 77,701,484 78,896,215 4.4 264
22 43,031,920 44,051,238 4.3 255
Largest segment = 7.3 cM
Total of segments > 4 cM = 59.8 cM
12 matching segments

298659 SNPs used for this comparison.

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Half Iranian half American:


Half Iranian/Kurd, half WASP??? whatever that is.




Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 150 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 239,931,842 242,061,664 4.9 232
6 41,577,049 43,909,856 5.1 310
6 134,410,646 137,647,320 4.8 333
10 2,466,773 3,472,498 4.3 209
10 129,848,286 130,809,932 4.1 214
13 35,395,103 38,059,716 4.5 312
14 99,236,053 100,641,462 4.0 171
16 17,976,386 22,627,867 7.2 333
17 68,155,160 69,362,200 4.8 266
18 62,853,023 65,290,233 4.3 330
20 9,915,527 11,739,094 4.4 292
21 35,358,485 36,997,183 4.2 192
Largest segment = 7.2 cM
Total of segments > 4 cM = 56.6 cM
12 matching segments



292477 SNPs used for this comparison.

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Jewish Armenian:


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 150 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 242,571,940 243,720,615 4.3 253
6 167,139,147 168,774,965 5.2 335
12 125,487,124 127,067,851 6.0 403
21 13,591,802 15,272,356 5.5 231

Largest segment = 6.0 cM
Total of segments > 4 cM = 20.9 cM
4 matching segments

402741 SNPs used for this comparison.

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Egyptian Non-Copt:


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 150 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 4,917,512 7,328,597 4.9 359
1 158,086,115 159,943,181 4.0 232
7 134,732,927 137,828,762 4.7 333
13 22,653,127 24,684,848 4.5 351
13 99,430,096 101,117,007 4.1 253
17 75,780,051 78,457,146 5.8 182
18 8,848,086 10,804,804 6.7 372
19 52,081,210 53,745,118 4.3 180
20 5,249,501 6,364,132 4.6 190
21 16,713,622 19,459,532 7.2 394
Largest segment = 7.2 cM
Total of segments > 4 cM = 50.6 cM
10 matching segments

292130 SNPs used for this comparison.

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A Cypriot:


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 150 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 233,161,554 234,888,470 4.6 178
4 83,872,992 88,753,089 5.0 416
4 186,025,756 187,344,843 5.3 248
8 11,894,726 13,449,206 4.2 192
9 2,185,846 3,948,355 4.8 353
10 2,124,606 4,459,878 9.2 436
10 129,851,891 130,824,769 4.1 202
12 123,546,539 125,118,874 4.6 246
14 101,064,620 104,919,936 5.3 276
17 74,912,218 77,627,732 8.7 223
19 54,028,375 55,847,334 4.8 191
21 15,739,809 17,846,930 4.6 268
22 46,319,572 47,451,552 6.8 242
Largest segment = 9.2 cM
Total of segments > 4 cM = 71.8 cM
13 matching segments

298502 SNPs used for this comparison.



^ largest segment "9.2 centimorgans"


aren, eggyolk, and alessio are just completely retarded. they see 70% european in a mixed oracle they think its factual. go fuck urselves is my message to them <3

[Congolese Rice]

anyone else have a clue on it's origins according to my DNA comparisons? im trying to look for more iranian kit numbers but i cant find them lol. sad lyfe

[Armenian Bishop]

Interesting, but I'm no better at reading it. I came here primarily as a historian and observer of political events. I find our DNA ancestry fascinating, and I always want to learn more.

[mashail]

West Asia is Jordan Lebanon Syria iraq Iran Palestine Israel Armenia Azerbaijan turkey.
SW Asia is the gulf such as central and southern Iran,Saudi Arabia,Qatar,Kuwait,Bahrain, Oman, UAE, Yemen.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5296e41fb6a39db940e9fae11d7c26fd

[Congolese Rice]

West Asia is Jordan Lebanon Syria iraq Iran Palestine Israel Armenia Azerbaijan turkey.
SW Asia is the gulf such as central and southern Iran,Saudi Arabia,Qatar,Kuwait,Bahrain, Oman, UAE, Yemen.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5296e41fb6a39db940e9fae11d7c26fd

thanks haha, but would you say only looking at my dna comparisons and test results that my MENA is most definitely arabian, or Iranian/Persian? i think the last as i score very strong west asian and west asiatic populations. in total in many tests i score like 12-13% west asian, 4-5% arab, and then some loose berber percentages here and there.

i also found a DIY calculator on anthrogenica, and it's named Iran Neolithic K6 or something i think, eitherway should be decent.



1.81% Ancestral_S_Eurasian
1.35% East_Asian
16.97% Iran_Neolithic
25.92% Natufian
30.59% WHG
23.36% Sub_Saharan

CPU time = 3.20 sec


^ as you can see, my natufian is OBVIOUSLY mixed european and mixed middle eastern, i am not 30% european and i never will be. lets say ill be generous and we will add 20% from my natufian to my european, just to see.

European: 50.59%, which is technically 51% european. Dodecad World9 gave me EXACTLY 51% european. now for my MENA percentages

MENA: 16.97 + 5.92 + 2.20 = 25.09%, that IS, if i am 50% european. and not actually 46% or less. so i am definitely some percentage MENA xD or iranian rather

[Congolese Rice]

Interesting, but I'm no better at reading it. I came here primarily as a historian and observer of political events. I find our DNA ancestry fascinating, and I always want to learn more.

well yeah xD i find DNA ancestry also very interesting. but my first task what i wanna do is find out my own ethnicity, then ill probably go to other populations and help ppl haha xD

[Congolese Rice]

another test:

DIY Eurasia K7:



26.10% Sub_Saharan
8.03% West_Asian
53.40% Atlantic_Baltic
1.01% East_Asian
7.74% Southern
2.10% South_Asian
1.62% Siberian

CPU time = 32.91 sec
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once again i score south asian, this time 2.10%. i think it could be part of potentional west asian ancestry as my amerind is prob nowhere higher than 3%.

8.03% West asian + 5% berber + 7.74% arab = 20.77%

[mashail]

Most Caucasian people have strong natufian in Europeans and middle easterners and berbers but natufian were ancient Semitic ppl they’re not European neither berbers. Anyways your natufian 25% and 19 Iran neolithic 5% SW Asia which is gulf area it still contains central and south Iran and Saudi and Qatar Bahrain Kuwait etc.
but all ME genetically similar to each other’s they’re either from J1 or J2 DNA and both decent from the same father which is J.
It seems like you’re 49% middle eastern it contains (natufian,west Asia,SW asia).

I’m not that good in these stuff apparently all ME share similar genetics and background but with different cultures and languages that’s it.
The difference between Iraqi arab and Iraqi Kurd and Iraqi Assyrian is the language nothing else.

[Armenian Bishop]

well yeah xD i find DNA ancestry also very interesting. but my first task what i wanna do is find out my own ethnicity, then ill probably go to other populations and help ppl haha xD

Well, I can give you an idea of what I see in it, from my perspective. No problem about that.

As for West Asia, everyone agrees that it excludes Egypt and the rest of North Africa.

The Cyprian, Lebanese, Armenian, Jewish Armenian, and Iranian Armenian components do deserve consideration. They are to the North of where you trace your ancestry from Yemen.

[Congolese Rice]

Most Caucasian people have strong natufian in Europeans and middle easterners and berbers but natufian were ancient Semitic ppl they’re not European neither berbers. Anyways your natufian 25% and 19 Iran neolithic 5% SW Asia which is gulf area it still contains central and south Iran and Saudi and Qatar Bahrain Kuwait etc.
but all ME genetically similar to each other’s they’re either J1 or J2 and both decent from the same father which is J.
It seems like you’re 49% middle eastern it contains (natufian,west Asia,SW asia).

I’m not that good in theses stuff apparently all ME share similar genetics and background but with different cultures and languages that’s it.
The difference between Iraqi arab and Iraqi Kurd and Iraqi Assyrian is the language nothing else.

i dont think i am 49% middle eastern though haha, as i know that i am not 30% european. natufian can be a "european" or "Mediterranean" component for europeans. i am half european so obviously there will be some med in my natufian. even so, if i remove 15% from my natufian on that test and leave 10% natufian, + 17% iranian = 27% + 2.20% = 29.20%

eitherway i am a good portion middle eastern. anyone who says otherwise has some good brain cancer xd i have definite proof anywhere from Chromosome BGA's, to DNA mapping, to Chromosome paintings, to DNA comparisons, to test results.



and yeah, but still in general on tests my west asian is higher than my natufian. if i actually am 49% middle eastern i'd be super surprised. and probably adopted as fuck XD

[Congolese Rice]

Well, I can give you an idea of what I see in it, from my perspective. No problem about that.

As for West Asia, everyone agrees that it excludes Egypt and the rest of North Africa.

The Cyprian, Lebanese, Armenian, Jewish Armenian, and Iranian Armenian components do deserve consideration. They are to the North of where you trace your ancestry from Yemen.

Well yeah, i used to think i was partially arab. Now that i realized i barely even score alot of SW asian on gedmatch tests im not so sure.. It could STILL be partially arab only if it were the case i'm pretty sure i wouldve known by now, i am pretty sure i am partially MENA but i am not exactly sure where it's from. My opinion is slowly hovering towards the Iranian side now, and to be honest i wouldnt even care. I love both iranians and arabs they have beautiful culture.

besides, Iran still has "Persian cheetahs" "Persian Lions' etc, so if i were part persian i'd be proud as fuck haha xd same case if i were part arab. i am proud of every ethnicity nevertheless

[Congolese Rice]

K13 Pashtun DIY test:



6.20% Pashtun
23.95% SE_European
0.99% Brunei
0.02% Burmese
28.12% NE_European
5.40% NW_European
1.90% Indian
19.43% SSA
0.48% Mongolian
0.43% Papuan
1.36% NE_Asian
9.18% Near_Eastern
2.54% Turkic

CPU time = 199.02 sec

^ very weird results.

9.18 + 2.54 + 6.20 = 5.40 = 23.32%

i removed my 5.40% from the NW european percentage because i dont know what the hell they used for reference population but its definitely not european xD i cant be 19% african.

and also, once again:

1.90% Indian

^ i score consistent south asian, anyone knows why that is?

[mashail]

i dont think i am 49% middle eastern though haha, as i know that i am not 30% european. natufian can be a "european" or "Mediterranean" component for europeans. i am half european so obviously there will be some med in my natufian. even so, if i remove 15% from my natufian on that test and leave 10% natufian, + 17% iranian = 27% + 2.20% = 29.20%

eitherway i am a good portion middle eastern. anyone who says otherwise has some good brain cancer xd i have definite proof anywhere from Chromosome BGA's, to DNA mapping, to Chromosome paintings, to DNA comparisons, to test results.



and yeah, but still in general on tests my west asian is higher than my natufian. if i actually am 49% middle eastern i'd be super surprised. and probably adopted as fuck XD

lol im trying my best to help you but I don't know that well in these stuff.

[Alessio]

Je bent gewoon een tatta jongen, accepteer het maar gewoon. Je hebt gewoon overduidelijk ''daddy issues'' en je schreeuwt om aandacht hier, terwijl je heus wel weet dat je onzin praat.

[Congolese Rice]

lol im trying my best to help you but I don't know that well in these stuff.

yes i know ur trying to help and i appreciate it lol dont worry about it.


but yeah i dont know, if i were to be 49% middle eastern there's a 99.99% possibility that one of my parents are not my parents XD trust me i wouldnt mind being 50% mena, seems cool to me. atleast i could feel alot more connected to 1 culture rather than having 3 major ancestral components and etc xD either way, natufian for me is probably part mediterranean and part middle eastern, the iranian percentage is 100% middle eastern no doubt lol.

iran neolithic isnt "european", natufian can be either pure arab, pure mediterranean, or 50/50 depending on the individial, natufian for europeans is 100% mediterranean so it doesnt tell them anything, natufian for a arab or north african is obviously arab and berber respectively, and natufian for a iberian is probably 100% mediterranean, or minor berber admix lol

i am 50% european or less so obviously theres more MENA influence because i am partially MENA so haha


anyways thanks for trying to help. once u get ur DNA test we definitely gone compare XD i wanna see how much dna i share with an arab and kurd mix haha

[Alessio]

My answer to this poll: non of the options can be applied to you as you're mainly Northwestern European and the rest SSA and minor Amerindian. The only 'Near Eastern' you have, dates back to the early Neolithic/EEF.

[Congolese Rice]

sorry what is that? is someone who i blocked trying to talk to me still?

im not gonna click on "view post" because i dont give a damn about your opinion, it's all biased, non factual, and bullshit trolling. stop contacting me or i'll srsly contact some administrator about your persistant trolling behavior.

[Congolese Rice]

eitherway, if anyone has Iranian kit numbers laying around i still would like those xD i cant find them anywhere and its really interesting to compare my DNA to theirs, just to see if my west asian is actually more tending to the armenian side, or iranian side.

[Congolese Rice]

also, arabian and levantine was voted 2 times. is there any reason you guys have to say it's arabian and levantine? just curious to know, since i score more west asian than SW asian on tests.. it could definitely be levantine but rather in the Syrian, Iraqi, and Lebanon area. I also consistently score 1.20-2% South asian and west asians also score that probably from central asian invaders.


so can anyone explain my results?


(no im not asking you alessio i know ur gonna come and try to bullshit me again XD)

[Congolese Rice]

last question of all, and i would like ppl to awsner me honestly. if you look at my results what do you think my MENA is most of all influenced by?

for example:

Arabian > Iranian > Maghrebi


Or Maghrebi>Arabian>Iranian


etc, and i would like have middle easterners also think on the matter because they know their ethnic breakdowns the best. on MOST tests i usually score higher on west asian than pure SW_Asian, there are also tests, like Eurasia K9 ASI, and some others where i score a percent or so more arab than west asian, so thats why i thought it couldve been more west asian rather than arab.


what do you guys think?


DIY Pashtun K13:



6.20% Pashtun
23.95% SE_European
0.99% Brunei
0.02% Burmese
28.12% NE_European
5.40% NW_European
1.90% Indian
19.43% SSA
0.48% Mongolian
0.43% Papuan
1.36% NE_Asian
9.18% Near_Eastern
2.54% Turkic

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some other DIY test i forgot the name:


26.10% Sub_Saharan
8.03% West_Asian
53.40% Atlantic_Baltic
1.01% East_Asian
7.74% Southern
2.10% South_Asian
1.62% Siberian

CPU time = 32.91 sec


Iran Neolithic K6:


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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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1.81% Ancestral_S_Eurasian
1.35% East_Asian
16.97% Iran_Neolithic
25.92% Natufian
30.59% WHG
23.36% Sub_Saharan

CPU time = 3.20 sec



any clues? ^^ is on the Iran Neolithic K6 test Iran neo part of a european percentage ,or is my natufian mixed european and arab? lemme know