Very interesting Sicilian MYHeritage result!

[Sikeliot]

Half of their family is from Partinico and nearby villages near the Palermo/Trapani border. The other half is from the inland region of Agrigento near the Trapani border.

NO Italian. NO Jewish. And almost half MENA.


Europe: 56.6
Greek: 31.5
Sardinian: 13.9
Iberian: 11.2

Asia: 24.2
West Asia: 24.2

Middle East: 11.5
Middle Eastern: 11.5

Africa: 7.7
North African: 7.7

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Do people even take MyHeritage seriously? Its results are completely inaccurate.

[Coolguy1]

Completely retarded service.

[Sikeliot]

I don't understand why people have an issue with MyHeritage specifically.

[donriccardo]

I don't understand why people have an issue with MyHeritage specifically.

Hmmm....the results are very weird...most sicilians get married with people from other towns as well. Sicilians are not so conservative as some people believe. How come there is no italian at all. We are talking about hundreds of years. Unless the guy has some recent middle eastern ancestry.

[Lauχum]

Yeah there may be some "calculator effect" going on or something. The results seem somewhat wacky.

[Sikeliot]

Hmmm....the results are very weird...most sicilians get married with people from other towns as well. Sicilians are not so conservative as some people believe. How come there is no italian at all. We are talking about hundreds of years. Unless the guy has some recent middle eastern ancestry.


"Italian" and "Greek" clusters seem to overlap a lot as does Sardinian with the Italian cluster.

[CommonSense]

It's either a mistake due to faulty testing or the man has recent non-european ancestry he isn't aware of.

[Sikeliot]

It's either a mistake due to faulty testing or the man has recent non-european ancestry he isn't aware of.

I have seen many other similar results to this. I don't know why people assume Sicilians will be automatically 'European' genetically when Europe is a political border, not a genetic structure.

Any land on the periphery -- Calabria, Sicily, Crete, Rhodes, etc -- will be like this.

[CommonSense]

I have seen many other similar results to this. I don't know why people assume Sicilians will be automatically 'European' genetically when Europe is a political border, not a genetic structure.

Any land on the periphery -- Calabria, Sicily, Crete, Rhodes, etc -- will be like this.

Were those results from MyHeritage or some other testing service?

[Hadouken]

that person must be very good looking with all that west asian :cool:

[Sikeliot]

Were those results from MyHeritage or some other testing service?

Yes.

But it corresponds on GEDMatch also. The closest groups to Sicilians are other southern Italians, Ashkenazim, and Aegean islanders. Then other Italians and Greeks. Then, before all other Europeans we begin seeing Levantines, Turks, Armenians, etc.

So in that context the result makes sense.

[Myanthropologies]

I don't understand why people have an issue with MyHeritage specifically.

I wonder if the same would be said if it had Sicilians come up as almost half german instead lol.

[Sikeliot]

I wonder if the same would be said if it had Sicilians come up as almost half german instead lol.

If they came up half German there would have to be something wrong with the test, because that model would simply be outside of the realm of possibility, unless the 'German' reference population consisted of immigrants who just happened to be living in Germany.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I wonder if the same would be said if it had Sicilians come up as almost half german instead lol.

Why should they? No way they would score more Sardinian than Italian, which is totally absent in this person. It's a cheapy company and its results are inaccurate, end of story. And I couldn't care less about having north European admixture.

[Lauχum]

I wonder if the same would be said if it had Sicilians come up as almost half german instead lol.

Its not the high west asian I am referring to. Thats most likely accurate as many Sicilians and Calabrese can be considerably eastern shifted even compared to the reference populations, especially around the Strait of Messina. I'm talking about the fact that they score no Italian. Components like Greek and Italian could be quite similar and variation in such results may be due to the calculator effect, rather than the person having more actual Greek/Ancient Greek ancestry.

[Sikeliot]

Its not the high west asian I am referring to. Thats most likely accurate as many Sicilians and Calabrese can be considerably eastern shifted even compared to the reference populations, especially around the Strait of Messina. I'm talking about the fact that they score no Italian. Components like Greek and Italian could be quite similar and variation in such results may be due to the calculator effect, rather than the person having more actual Greek/Ancient Greek ancestry.


I think the "Italian" and "Greek" components overlap and are hard to differentiate. Greeks themselves score a mixture of that Greek component and the Balkan one on MyHeritage usually, depending on how much Slavic they have.

[Lauχum]

I think the "Italian" and "Greek" components overlap and are hard to differentiate. Greeks themselves score a mixture of that Greek component and the Balkan one on MyHeritage usually, depending on how much Slavic they have.

Interesting. So it seems the Greek component is based on a more "southern" Greek population. Maybe Maniots or certain Islanders? And considering I scored only 27% Italian on MyHeritage despite being half (mostly North) Italian it seems their Italian reference may be based on a central-southern population, maybe Abruzzo? It makes sense then why you see these results with Greek "eating up" the Italian component.

[Sikeliot]

Interesting. So it seems the Greek component is based on a more "southern" Greek population. Maybe Maniots or certain Islanders? And considering I scored only 27% Italian on MyHeritage despite being half (mostly North) Italian it seems their Italian reference may be based on a central-southern population, maybe Abruzzo? It makes sense then why you see these results with Greek "eating up" the Italian component.

"Greek" seems to better represent people from the western part of the mainland as well as the islands, with the former scoring the remainder in Balkan and the latter, in MENA stuff like how Sicilians come up. Other Greeks score more Balkan.

I think the Italian component best represents central Italy.

[Grace O'Malley]

Half of their family is from Partinico and nearby villages near the Palermo/Trapani border. The other half is from the inland region of Agrigento near the Trapani border.

NO Italian. NO Jewish. And almost half MENA.


Europe: 56.6
Greek: 31.5
Sardinian: 13.9
Iberian: 11.2

Asia: 24.2
West Asia: 24.2

Middle East: 11.5
Middle Eastern: 11.5

Africa: 7.7
North African: 7.7

MyHeritage is not the best dna service at the moment. I would hope they will get better but they really need to adjust their algorithm and possibly get more samples from many populations to improve their Ancestry Compositions.