Gedmatch results of a purest Anatolian Turk!

[Sora]

He is a Manav Turk from Eskişehir. I called him "purest Anatolian Turk" because of his approximations. Here's his results:

MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.84
2 European_Early_Farmers 12.71
3 South_Central_Asian 12.68
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.94
5 Near_East 8.76
6 Tungus-Altaic 5.22
7 East_Siberian 3.55
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.74
9 Arctic 2.34
10 South_East_Asian 2.26
11 North_African 1.80

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.232917
2 Turk_Balikesir @ 6.370986
3 Turk_Istanbul @ 8.663323
4 Turk @ 9.860601
5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 11.649318
6 Azov_Greek @ 11.803784
7 Turk_Adana @ 11.933046
8 Turk_Kayseri @ 12.379783
9 Cretan @ 13.949790
10 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14.698227
11 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 15.229277
12 Sicilian_West @ 15.315301
13 Georgian_Jew @ 15.333658
14 Greek_Smyrna @ 15.519457
15 Romanian_Jew @ 15.736240
16 Nogai @ 15.785964
17 Greek @ 15.966936
18 Syrian_Jew @ 16.366724
19 Greek_Athens @ 16.380215
20 Greek_Macedonia @ 16.380232

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 4.920366

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Turkmen_Afghan +25% Uzbek_Tashkent @ 3.047337

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly + Turk_Adana + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.288498
2 Greek_Thessaly + Turk_Aydin + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.477214
3 Albanian_Tirana + Turk_Adana + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.489206
4 Greek_Peloponnesos + Turk_Adana + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.493608
5 Cretan + Greek_Thessaly + Turkmen_Afghan + Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.524370
6 Greek_Thessaloniki + Turk_Adana + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.527981
7 Greek_Peloponnesos + Turk + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.535867
8 Greek_Northwest + Turk_Adana + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.541728
9 Greek_Smyrna + Greek_Thessaly + Turkmen_Afghan + Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.541960
10 Greek_Peloponnesos + Turk_Aydin + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.544813
11 Kosovar + Turk_Adana + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.559473
12 Greek_Smyrna + Greek_Thessaly + Uzbek + Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.571398
13 Georgian_Jew + Greek_Northwest + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.587828
14 Cretan + Greek_Peloponnesos + Turkmen_Afghan + Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.589327
15 Greek_Northwest + Turk_Aydin + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.602777
16 Greek_Thessaly + Turk + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.612539
17 Georgian_Jew + Greek_Thessaly + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.614266
18 Cretan + Greek_Thessaly + Uzbek + Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.616726
19 Greek_Peloponnesos + Greek_Smyrna + Turkmen_Afghan + Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.626497
20 Georgian_Jew + Kosovar + Turk_Aydin + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.642631

[Sora]

He's around 13% Mongoloid. Also his Dodecad results, but he looks less Turkic here:


Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.63
2 Atlantic_Med 15.69
3 North_European 14.99
4 Gedrosia 14.24
5 Southwest_Asian 9.69
6 East_Asian 6.50
7 Siberian 5.84

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 16.594427
2 Turks @ 17.234819
3 Nogais @ 18.589886
4 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 19.156736
5 Turkmens @ 19.467344
6 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 20.014223
7 Ashkenazi @ 20.034307
8 Greek @ 20.131056
9 Sicilian @ 20.729258
10 Sephardic_Jews @ 21.451702
11 Kumyks @ 21.766575
12 O_Italian @ 22.821108
13 Kurd @ 23.168421
14 Lebanese @ 23.187229
15 Iranian @ 23.200003
16 C_Italian @ 23.273550
17 Morocco_Jews @ 23.412249
18 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 23.470684
19 Kurds @ 23.498318
20 Iranians @ 24.788296

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Turkmens @ 4.995711

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Kurd +25% Uzbeks @ 2.496705

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kumyks + North_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 2.209742
2 Kumyks + Lebanese + North_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.210350
3 French + Georgia_Jews + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.335668
4 Kumyks + N_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 2.344831
5 French + Georgia_Jews + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.358504
6 Baleares + Iraq_Jews + Kumyks + Uzbeks @ 2.361493
7 Iraq_Jews + Kumyks + North_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.371493
8 Kumyks + Lebanese + N_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.378222
9 Armenian + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.477880
10 Chechens + North_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 2.491676
11 Greek + Greek + Kurd + Uzbeks @ 2.496705
12 Greek + Greek + Hazara + Kurds @ 2.542232
13 Azerbaijan_Jews + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.543026
14 Armenians + Druze + Hazara + Mixed_Germanic @ 2.543973
15 Armenians_15 + Druze + Mixed_Germanic + Uzbeks @ 2.548793
16 Armenians_15 + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.549788
17 French + Iranian_Jews + Turks + Uzbeks @ 2.565680
18 Azerbaijan_Jews + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.567960
19 Armenian + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.572697
20 Armenians + French + Iraq_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.583513

[Coolguy1]

Kit please?

[Sora]

Kit please?

I don't know his kit number. I found these results on Anthrogenica

[Lauχum]

He's around 13% Mongoloid. Also his Dodecad results, but he looks less Turkic here:


Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.63
2 Atlantic_Med 15.69
3 North_European 14.99
4 Gedrosia 14.24
5 Southwest_Asian 9.69
6 East_Asian 6.50
7 Siberian 5.84

Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 16.594427
2 Turks @ 17.234819
3 Nogais @ 18.589886
4 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 19.156736
5 Turkmens @ 19.467344
6 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 20.014223
7 Ashkenazi @ 20.034307
8 Greek @ 20.131056
9 Sicilian @ 20.729258
10 Sephardic_Jews @ 21.451702
11 Kumyks @ 21.766575
12 O_Italian @ 22.821108
13 Kurd @ 23.168421
14 Lebanese @ 23.187229
15 Iranian @ 23.200003
16 C_Italian @ 23.273550
17 Morocco_Jews @ 23.412249
18 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 23.470684
19 Kurds @ 23.498318
20 Iranians @ 24.788296

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Turkmens @ 4.995711

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Kurd +25% Uzbeks @ 2.496705

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kumyks + North_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 2.209742
2 Kumyks + Lebanese + North_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.210350
3 French + Georgia_Jews + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.335668
4 Kumyks + N_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 2.344831
5 French + Georgia_Jews + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.358504
6 Baleares + Iraq_Jews + Kumyks + Uzbeks @ 2.361493
7 Iraq_Jews + Kumyks + North_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.371493
8 Kumyks + Lebanese + N_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.378222
9 Armenian + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.477880
10 Chechens + North_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 2.491676
11 Greek + Greek + Kurd + Uzbeks @ 2.496705
12 Greek + Greek + Hazara + Kurds @ 2.542232
13 Azerbaijan_Jews + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.543026
14 Armenians + Druze + Hazara + Mixed_Germanic @ 2.543973
15 Armenians_15 + Druze + Mixed_Germanic + Uzbeks @ 2.548793
16 Armenians_15 + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.549788
17 French + Iranian_Jews + Turks + Uzbeks @ 2.565680
18 Azerbaijan_Jews + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.567960
19 Armenian + French + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.572697
20 Armenians + French + Iraq_Jews + Uzbeks @ 2.583513

There isn't really anything surprising about some Turks scoring that much asiatic ancestry. In Western Anatolia its especially high. Here are nmonte models of the 2 Western Anatolian Turkish population averages from the Eurogenes Global 25 scaled datsheet:

"distance%=2.7531"
Turkish_Aydin
Anatolia_ChL,45.8
Seh_Gabi_ChL,17.8
Mongola,11.6
Yamnaya_Samara,10.4
Levant_BA,7.8
Iron_Gates_HG,4.2
Barcin_N,2.4

"distance%=2.8182"
Turkish_Balikesir
Anatolia_ChL,48.4
Seh_Gabi_ChL,15
Mongola,13
Yamnaya_Samara,11.6
Iron_Gates_HG,4.6
Levant_BA,4.2
Barcin_N,3.2

[Lauχum]

And you can see in oracles he scores closest to these two reference populations.

[Marmara]

He isn't the purest Turk.

I've seen Yörük results with 20%+ Mongoloid.

[Sora]

He isn't the purest Turk.

I've seen Yörük results with 20%+ Mongoloid.

He's purer than most Anatolian Turks. Also he clusters with Afghan Turkmens and Uzbekistani Turkmens more than Anatolian Turks.

Yes. You're right. But Yörüks are outliers to me. They should be classified in different category than Anatolian Turks. Also their Turkic admixture is 75%-100% while Anatolian Turks are 50%-55%

[Gangrel]

There are Turks on this website here more central Asian than him. My dad is even.

[Sora]

There are Turks on this website here more central Asian than him. My dad is even.

Oh! I'm so sorry then...

Did your dad get tested?

[Marmara]

He's purer than most Anatolian Turks. Also he clusters with Afghan Turkmens and Uzbekistani Turkmens more than Anatolian Turks.

Yes. You're right. But Yörüks are outliers to me. They should be classified in different category than Anatolian Turks. Also their Turkic admixture is 75%-100% while Anatolian Turks are 50%-55%

No one in Turkey is 100% Turkic except recent immigrants from Central Asia. Everybody is mixed to a degree.

An ordinary Turk can potentially have higher Turkic ancestry than a Yörük, and a Yörük can potentially look like this:

http://www.gazianteppusula.com/uploads/data/News/14139/Hayat-Sarkisi-adli-yeni-dizi-Burcu-Biricik-ile-nefes-kesecek-1451382044-12721736240.Jpeg

So they don't deserve to be considered seperate.

[Sora]

No one in Turkey is 100% Turkic except recent immigrants from Central Asia. Everybody is mixed to a degree.


An ordinary Turk can potentially have higher Turkic ancestry than a Yörük, and a Yörük can potentially look like this:

So they don't deserve to be considered seperate.

Yes. I know. But I said "they should be outlier" because of they have higher Mongoloid than Anatolian Turks.

[Gangrel]

Oh! I'm so sorry then...

Did your dad get tested?

No, but double mine and its higher than his lol.